What do you think of the new single, 'You Have Killed Me'? (suggested by Maurice E)
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Brilliant; up there with the best solo and Smiths songs   12% 818 / 12%
Really good: a superior Morrissey single   41% 2691 / 41%
OK but not great   34% 2231 / 34%
Poor, a real disappointment   6% 400 / 6%
One of his worst ever songs   2% 142 / 2%
Oh no, what an awful poll   3% 213 / 3%
6495 total votes.

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you have killed me (Score:0)
The Smiths had music as significant as lyrics. Morrissey is forcing the words and they're dragging the music behind. When will he forget the ego-mania and find music, musicians, to match his words?

I think, like Roy Orbison's last work, we will get one last notable effort after this phony resurgence in fame has subsided. I hope so. This is not art; this is deluded jobbing crap. Before you die, Steve, kick out the jams. Before it is all payed off, sing your life.
Anonymous -- Friday February 10 2006, @01:02AM (#197452)
You have filled me (Score:0)
At the first list I thought of the Maladjusted singles and was a bit disappointed - however the song is planted firmly in my sub conscious and I keep hearing it in my head!

I really think its a grower - not as immediate as Irish Heart, English Car. The lyrics are unusual, but the tune is unbelievably catchy unlike its Maladjusted predecessors.

The question is what are the B-sides like - are they as good as those on the flip side of Alma Matters or Roy's Keen.

I am very excited about coming months - to be honest I'd be over the moon if it were a cover of 50 Cent's Hustlers Ambition or anything by Craig David.

Gotta go and change my kegs.
Anonymous -- Friday February 10 2006, @01:25AM (#197454)
ooh, how will the voting go? (Score:1, Interesting)
great poll!
Anonymous -- Friday February 10 2006, @01:32AM (#197456)
    The test of a good song (Score:1)
    Is whether you can't stop singing it, and YHKM hasn't been out of my head since I heard it. Thus I vote for the second option. Although lyrically it's not the best thing he's ever done, and the music, though catchy, isn't a real departure from Quarry, any Morrissey effort is still better than anything in the charts.
    Mozzersgirl -- Friday February 10 2006, @01:42AM (#197458)
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    "There's more evil in the charts than in an al-Qaeda suggestion box" - Bill Bailey
    Great song! But this is what I want- (Score:1)
    The song is fantastic, but I am hoping for more experimentation.

    I am certain that ROTT is going to be a 'concept album.'

    But- pardon the comparison- I am hoping for something like what Bjork has done.

    What I mean is this- a great deal of experimentation. Similar to this is Radiohead.

    Morrissey can combine beautiful string arrangements to avant-garde techno rhythms, guitar strums, children's choirs-

    he can do so much! I think his most experimental album to date has been Viva Hate. I am looking for variety, strong emotions, and moving lyrics. I know he can do this.

    What do you think-?

    ps- This is also odd- but could you imagine Depeche Mode putting out a greatest hits package or 'unplugged'-styled package with their hits re-done 'live' by a full orchestra with live vocals, etc? Could you imagine how dramatic it would be?

    This is what I know Morrissey could do.

    Love,
    Ken S.
    sycophantic_slag -- Friday February 10 2006, @01:57AM (#197460)
    (User #3940 Info)
    "And I just can't explain/ So I won't even try to."
    good - a superior morrissey single. (Score:0)
    The beginning is melancholic and tender with beautiful singing and a nice rock sound.

    The ending is quite good too. My only gripe is that I think the song sounds slightly half-formed and the verse-chorus part perhaps needed an extra one or even two repeats. You almost feel short-changed by how short the song is and the fact the middle eight and ending seems almost as long as the verse-chorus part.

    Overall, it's one of Morrissey's better singles, but not as good as Suedehead, Everyday, IBEH and FOTGTD.

    broken
    Anonymous -- Friday February 10 2006, @02:02AM (#197461)
      Single (Score:1)
      Exactly right. The new single is OK and reasonably catchy but eminently forgettable. The only consolation is that Moz is notoriously bad at choosing singles - e.g. neglecting NF Disco and Billy Budd, and for saving some of his best work for B sides. For this reason, still looking forward to the album and associated singles. Crap album cover tho. What is it with Moz and album covers? The Smiths: works of art; Moz solo: mostly slapdash and bland (with a few notable exceptions, e.g. Suedehead). Moz's violin concerto in E flat minor? Is this the same man who worships the NY Dolls?
      15minuteswithyou -- Friday February 10 2006, @02:13AM (#197463)
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      • Re:Single by 15minuteswithyou (Score:1) Friday February 10 2006, @02:22AM
        • Re:Single by Anonymous (Score:0) Friday February 10 2006, @03:01AM
          • Re:Single by 15minuteswithyou (Score:1) Friday February 10 2006, @03:29AM
        • according to Mozz by BigmouthSA (Score:1) Friday February 10 2006, @05:34AM
        • Billy Budd by ohglen (Score:1) Friday February 10 2006, @06:44AM
          • Re:Billy Budd by Anonymous (Score:0) Friday February 10 2006, @07:20AM
            • Re:Billy Budd by 15minuteswithyou (Score:1) Friday February 10 2006, @09:28AM
            Not Bad (Score:1)
            The single isnt bad, but admit it: 'til you came with the key' has got to be one of the biggest cliches in pop music. Come on Moz, you can do better.
            15minuteswithyou -- Friday February 10 2006, @02:46AM (#197468)
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              First No 1 (Score:1)
              I really really like this single. I think it is his best solo single for over a decade and better than anything from YATQ.
              I have high hopes of a first No 1 because it is short and catchy.
              John Roberts -- Friday February 10 2006, @02:49AM (#197470)
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              • Re:First No 1 by Anonymous (Score:0) Friday February 10 2006, @09:30AM
                • Re:First No 1 by Anonymous (Score:0) Friday February 10 2006, @03:19PM
                  • Re:First No 1 by John Roberts (Score:1) Thursday February 16 2006, @03:40AM
                    • Re:First No 1 by Anonymous (Score:0) Friday February 17 2006, @09:25AM
                  • Re:First No 1 by Anonymous (Score:0) Sunday February 12 2006, @10:03PM
                    not great but... (Score:1)
                    we'll all end up buying it and the various different versions!!

                    and probably love it more in the years to come as has been the case in the past with Morrissey's work [Kill Uncle & Southpaw getting much more favourable comments in recent times].

                    Is it that he is just ahead of his time?!
                    Friedrich Shain -- Friday February 10 2006, @02:52AM (#197471)
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                      I Cant WAIT... (Score:0)
                      for the next Britney Spears single....I hear Spice Girls are on Tour
                      Anonymous -- Friday February 10 2006, @03:16AM (#197475)
                        My Suspicion... (Score:0)
                        is that a hell of a lot of Morrissey fans are willing for Morrissey to basically make a Radiohead album with Morrissey-esque lyrics. Time and again, people have mentioned "ooh, if he just experimented a bit...Like Radiohead, for example".

                        Well, the reason I love Morrissey is because he seems to one of the only artists around who makes unabashed, singalong pop tunes. "You Have Killed Me" is a case in point - not the greatest song he has ever recorded, but a damn catchy one that sits ion the head for days, just as "Boxers", "The More You Ignore Me" and "I Have Forgiven Jesus" do / did.

                        You'd all hate it if Morrissey released one, standout single which everyone thought was his best, to the detriment of all the others. If he could sort out all the different labels he's been on and release a collection of all his A-Sides from Suedehead to You Have Killed Me, it would be clear that he has been releasing consistently great, catchy-as-hell singles for nearly 20 years (with the odd exception, like Pregnant For The Last Time and Interesting Drug).

                        Morrissey will never be Radiohead, or even The Smiths...They are they, and only he is he :D

                        Jessica x
                        Anonymous -- Friday February 10 2006, @03:37AM (#197478)
                        I've gone for OK but not great.. (Score:1)
                        It's not the best single he's evr done but most of us here will buy it in all its' available formats for the B-sides anyway. It's here that he tends to shine sometimes even eclipsing the album tracks. If it's catchy enough and I think it just might be, then it will get airplay and promote the album which is the point to begin with. If it doesn't get airplay then thats another matter but realistically I don't see it troubling the top five in the UK singles chart whatever happens to be around at the time. He's not a singles artist and shouldn't be judged as one. A fine tune but probably not the best on the album or his best single as regards the A side. We will judge it ultimately on the B sides anyway. Great to have him back all the same!!
                        Sleepy lifeguard * -- Friday February 10 2006, @05:05AM (#197480)
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                        this is the 1st single? Somebody should rethink (Score:0)
                        YHKM did nothing for me....nothing. I think it's the 1st time in over 20 years that I'm really not overly excited about a Moz effort being released. I hope the rest of the album is worthwhile.
                        Anonymous -- Friday February 10 2006, @06:14AM (#197488)
                        It is a traditional Morrissey single (Score:0)
                        Good but not great. Very traditional, catchy, and it is growing on me. When I first heard it, I was unimpressed. Now I keep listening to it. The chorus is great especially the "I forgive you" part at the end- awesome. I have heard two other songs as well: I will see you in far off places is possiblty one of the worst songs I have ever heard. It sounds dated and lacks any strength. I am glad it is the first song so I can skip it when the album comes out. "Dear God Please Help Me" - awesome. Great great great song. The "explosive keg between my legs" lyric is stupid, but the instrumentation and Morrissey's voice just makes it an instant classic. Hopefully the rest of the album will sound like this....
                        moho -- Friday February 10 2006, @06:51AM (#197494)
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                          C'mon people.... (Score:0)
                          ....that song is average at best. Not really very catchy musically but, worst of all, moz's lyrics have become embarrassingly bad. Almost pstart and purile.
                          I seem to remember him saying in an interview back in the Smiths days that he still had loads to say but when he'd run out he would pack it in.
                          I hate to say it but it might be time to start considering it mate.

                          -TTL

                          "i could describe it better if my arms were longer"
                          Anonymous -- Friday February 10 2006, @07:09AM (#197497)
                          Passes the old grey whistle test (Score:1)
                          I really like "You Have Killed Me" as a first single.

                          There are two kinds of Morrissey songs; one that makes you think and one that makes you feel. In contrast to "Irish Blood, English Heart", this is an emotional song that conveys the Morrisseysque theme of shunning away love and then cleverly uses the obscure Italian cinema references (some of these names have double-meaning) to reinforse that notion.

                          What really sells the song to me is the vocals. His vocals swing around phrases in the song like a naked pole dancer! The man does have a new muse and she's sportin' Italian stilettos and a fan!

                          I am looking forward to ROTT.
                          mozmic_dancer -- Friday February 10 2006, @07:10AM (#197498)
                          (User #11277 Info)
                          "I am the fun and the fair, on a Mozsite for the criminally insane..."
                          I feel like Johnny Marr (Score:1)
                          Not only because I can play guitar with virtuosic style, but also because I listened to about half of it, thought, yep, that's Morrissey alright, and shut it off.

                          It sounds like Reader Meets Boring. As an enormous Visconti (Luchino, that is) fan it is wonderful that Morrissey mentioned one of the greatest directors of all time, but the larger problem with this song, I Will See You and Dear God is that the lyrics have no interesting ideas in them whatsoever. It sounds like Morrissey is on autopilot.

                          I've seen a number of comparisons drawn to the first single from Southpaw, Dagenham Dave, from the tune to the overall weakness of that as a first single choice. At least DD had the double pun "I love sharin' / I love carin'." Is there anything in any of these new songs to even match that kind of (admittedly cheesy) wordplay?

                          I must say that his singing on YHKM is awful. How many songs in Morrissey's high register even sound very good? His falsetto is fantastic, way back to What Difference Does It Make, but that high-pitched squeal... ugh. Leave the high stuff to Bono or Thom Yorke.

                          Fundamentally, I cannot imagine what it will be like to attend upcoming concerts. Will everyone be singing along to YHKM?
                          Ship Erect <steven@shiperect.com> -- Friday February 10 2006, @07:14AM (#197499)
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                          Average (Score:0)
                          I think he really raised the bar for first singles off an album with Irish Blood English Heart, and unfortunately, this seems really quite limp in comparison.
                          Anonymous -- Friday February 10 2006, @07:17AM (#197500)
                            It's a great song (Score:0)
                            Full of love and hope and resignation. Full of references that no one else would think of putting in a pop song. Who else would write a love song to a city?

                            It's incredibly catchy and he sings brilliantly on it too.
                            Anonymous -- Friday February 10 2006, @07:47AM (#197506)
                              If this song was on Bona Drag or Vauxhall (Score:0)
                              I would probably skip over it.

                              It is average at best from Morrissey, probably in the lower 25% of the songs he has recorded (which are still generally better than most of the rubbish out there). Too many awful cliches as so many have pointed out.

                              Anonymous -- Friday February 10 2006, @08:13AM (#197509)
                                Difference (Score:1)
                                It is really amazing to listen to "Who put the M in Manchester" and point out the notable decrease in vivid imagery in lyrics between the Smiths catalogue and his latest stuff, YATQ included. The new vocals have lost their life and truly do just roll slowly on with the beat of the music.

                                In general, in the average Smiths song, you have several different ideas floating around in the words...with the new stuff - you have one or two ideas.

                                I understand that Morrissey has matured as a person and as an artist, but as a simple matter of personal taste, the new lyrics are too predictable in my view. He is not saying anything he hasn't already said a million times before in different and more interesting forms.
                                Notallan -- Friday February 10 2006, @08:25AM (#197512)
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                                I was bored before I even began
                                Prayers Answered! (Score:0)
                                Why all the negativity? It's a great little pop song. Enjoy it. At least Paul Morley knows what he's talking about. He's giving the album a rave review in The Guardian next week, which begins:

                                "Ringleader is the story of a life all his other songs have only hinted at, it has a kind of exhilarating, intimate Blood on the Tracks suddenness the way it appears after years of him never quite out-doing his early classic work and sometimes seemingly trapped inside his own myth. From the day he was born, through the streets of Manchester, out into the mean world of sinister places and demanding people, to the day he never actually died it's all here. Fans of Morrissey, and maybe a few enemies, will have all their prayers answered: a whole album of songs that rock, drone and swing in the way his best songs Smiths-or-not do between the strangely familiar and the completely unfamiliar..."

                                Orson Swells
                                Anonymous -- Friday February 10 2006, @09:38AM (#197521)
                                there will be worse songs than this! (Score:0)
                                thought it was quite a good catchy number myself, nice and upbeat and harmless enough. wont set the world alight but do we expect that anymore?!we know what we're getting by now.
                                by the way if anyone is looking to buy a copy of PEEPHOLISM im selling one on amazon. have a gander at it.
                                Anonymous -- Friday February 10 2006, @09:47AM (#197522)
                                  Not bad - just worryingly average for a 1st single (Score:0)
                                  When I first heard You Have Killed Me I was flabbergastered by how mediocre it was. Musically it's lazy limp dad rock, there are virtually no interesting chord changes or guitar riffs in it, and Morrissey's lyrics are at best Moz on autopilot - it sounds very much like a lazy Morrissey pastiche.

                                  Now, listening to it a dozen times later it's started to worm it's way into my head, to the point where I can consider it a reasonably pleasant ditty, but for a 1st songle off the album it's very weak. A single should be immediate and gripping, not a slow 'it will grow on you' track - leave that for the B-Sides.

                                  Can anyone seriously hold this track next to the likes of Suedehead, First of the Gang to Die and The More You Ignore Me as an example of a great single? It sounds more like Alma Matters - an OK but ultimtealy mediocre single from a lacklustre album. Having heard this and I Will See You in Far Off Places Im officially worried we have another Maladjusted on our hands...
                                  Anonymous -- Friday February 10 2006, @10:47AM (#197546)
                                  the hype machine implodes (Score:1)
                                  I think the single is good and all. I like morrissey singing up at the higher end of his voice because it does sound a bit lighter.

                                  eliminating the usual gang of idiots who like to post crap for fun, of the legitimate grumbling about the new single coming from people who heard it and are posting an honest opinion and not doing it because they are having fun heightening this website as being the haters of morrissey...

                                  i think everyone's expectations have been unfairly raised. when all the reviewers who came back from the listening sessions said, "it's nothing like morrissey has ever done before!" and misconstrued how some songs actually sounded, everybody let their imagination run wild. combine that with the fact that the majority of people would lay down and die for morrissey, it suddenly became bigger than what it was.

                                  people now have to get over the disappointment that it is only a song and not the gates of heaven.
                                  suzanne -- Friday February 10 2006, @11:33AM (#197562)
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                                  I scare dead people.
                                  Dare not to care? (Score:0)
                                  Ya know what? I don't care anymore :)

                                  I've been savouring this song bigtime, and keep craving it. I keep listening to the different fans, old and new being split between it.. And it was effecting my allowance of myself to get into the song.. My mind is telling me to love it, whilst my sensible side is telling me "it isn't as good as classic Morrissey", but you know what? The last few times, I have quite simply loved the crap out of this song. I love this song. I'm not listening to the criticism anymore, I just don't mind or care for negative or positives from others. I am REALLY looking forward to the album now, especially as some say Dear God AND Far Off are better than this.
                                  Anonymous -- Friday February 10 2006, @03:33PM (#197644)
                                    He's killed me and I'm off to heaven (Score:0)
                                    Mike Joyce, eat your heart out. Mr. Marr you could never achieve such brilliance....this is it...better than any single by the Smiths and surely Morrissey's be solo track ever and ever!
                                    Anonymous -- Friday February 10 2006, @07:40PM (#197682)
                                    yhkm (Score:1)
                                    I came in on Your Arsenal 14 years ago. I first heard Morrissey via the whiwofbs single on the radio. Later I realized that I had known a few Smiths songs too. I loved Your Arsenal - yes, even You're the One for Me, Fatty, which is great to sing along to. I sang my heart out to I Know It's Gonna Happen Someday. I thought The National Front Disco was an awesome song, well before I knew what the National Front was (I'm from California). To this day Tomorrow is one of my favorite Moz tracks. I had no expectations of Morrissey and he bowled me over.

                                    But after falling in love with Your Arsenal, I did have expectations. And Vauxhall didn't meet them. I wanted it to be rockier. Of course, it turns out that Vauxhall was one of the greatest albums ever made.

                                    In conclusion, I think 75% of the bitching about every new Moz album is about unmet expectations rather than careful evaluation of quality.

                                    You Have Killed Me is a good song with a few great lines, and the new album may yet be a really great one.
                                    jessesamuel -- Friday February 10 2006, @09:01PM (#197689)
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                                    On an occasion of this kind it becomes more than a moral duty to speak one's mind. It becomes a pleasure. -O.W.
                                      Maladjusted (Score:1)
                                      Sounds like he's picking up where he left off with YATQ. It's good, but dont' these songs sound like they were slapped together in about five minutes? For some reason the vocal inflections remind me of some of the stuff he was doing on Maladjusted( a record most would like to forget).
                                      David Rich -- Saturday February 11 2006, @12:42AM (#197691)
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                                        The O'Neills Whistle Test (Score:0)
                                        Although personally I am disappointed by the song, I sang YHKM to a crowd of non-Morrissey fans in the pub last night (expecting them to dislike it even more than I do) and I was astonished by how much they really loved it - so maybe it is more one for the non-fans and/or to bring in new fans.
                                        Anonymous -- Saturday February 11 2006, @03:55AM (#197708)
                                        Well it's alright isn't it (Score:1)
                                        That's the long and short of it. It's okay.

                                        But what I can't understand is the watery or negative reaction to Far Off Places, which I think is astonishing and an amazing way to open both the album and doubtless the gigs.
                                        Stan * <stanleymchale@mac.com> -- Saturday February 11 2006, @05:06AM (#197720)
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                                          Morrissey's taste in singles (Score:1)
                                          We'd all agree that Morrissey could pick the winning lottery numbers easier than he could pick the correct first single off his albums.

                                          Therefore I think there should be some sort of select committee made up of a group of 10 to 20 Morrissey fans employed for the day by his record company to listen to the whole album a few months before it's released and pick the obvious singles. Then the obvious first one.

                                          I honestly think that if First Of The Gang were to have been the first from Quarry it would have got to No.1.

                                          In this one area, we are wiser than Morrissey.

                                          Stan * <stanleymchale@mac.com> -- Saturday February 11 2006, @05:12AM (#197721)
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                                          Bucky (Score:1)
                                          Well, I'm not exactly moved by the song but at least the video should be good. Bucky Whatshisface seems to have an eye for bringing out a kind of raw beauty in his videos. Jolly good.
                                          KenBarlow -- Saturday February 11 2006, @06:17AM (#197727)
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                                          There is no such thing in life as Norman
                                            The thing that worries me (Score:0)
                                            The thing that worries me, is how opinion is so divided. Can you imagine anything other than blanket appreciation for his past works (and yes, I do, predictably, include The Smiths legacy). It seems that we`re willing each new release to be something special. We are fans, casual onlookers have no time for such luxury. Yamaha
                                            Anonymous -- Saturday February 11 2006, @06:40AM (#197730)
                                            is morrissey still celibate (Score:0)
                                            is morrissey still celibate?i remember him saying somewhere a while back that he isn't but the way he said it it seemed like he was playing around. nothing much appears about him being celibate anymore so im curious.
                                            Anonymous -- Saturday February 11 2006, @02:50PM (#197763)
                                              cliché (Score:1)
                                              In response to the comment made by '15minuteswithyou' that the lyric "'till you came with the key" is "one of the biggest clichés in pop music", I feel that the aforementioned lyric is probably metaphorical. Furthermore, it is likely that both the use of cliché and the metaphorical connotations (of said "key" being someone's penis) should be taken as tongue-in-cheek.
                                              I hope this brief message is taken as casual observation and not as a reprimanding from a pompous git.
                                              Thanks
                                              D. Diedrich
                                              Diedrich -- Saturday February 11 2006, @03:06PM (#197764)
                                              (User #14751 Info)
                                                Thou shall not namedrop in vain... (Score:1, Insightful)
                                                So, you feel you belong up there with Luchino and Pier Paolo?

                                                But homosexuality doesn't always mean talent, Morrissey; thought you would have figured out by now.

                                                Oh and, well yes, it's pretty boring and bad, and you're making it so.

                                                You like honesty, don't you?
                                                -Ha; if only you could also understand it.

                                                Anonymous -- Saturday February 11 2006, @08:03PM (#197783)
                                                You Have Killed Me Roundtable Score (Score:0)
                                                YHKM has scored 32 out of 40 on BBC 6's Round Table, coming in second - the winner, whose name I forget, scored 33. A very respectable score, don't you think, especially considering this song is - supposedly - by no means the best from the new album, even though it is good.
                                                Anonymous -- Sunday February 12 2006, @09:25AM (#197801)
                                                Well done. (Score:0)
                                                After some of the abuse aimed at this site it's worth highlighting something positive. This is why this site is the bext Morrissey site there is. Yes, there is a light of viciousness here but that goes with the territory of the web. But there is an objectiveness towards Moz here that you will not get elsewhere. If people like, love or loathe this new single - that's fine. But it's great to read a contrast of opinion as opposed to blind devotion. Well done to all!
                                                Anonymous -- Sunday February 12 2006, @11:06AM (#197807)
                                                • Re:Well done. by Anonymous (Score:0) Sunday February 12 2006, @11:08AM
                                                  Nah (Score:0)
                                                  ...don't like the gay vibe going on in this song; all that stuff about being entered - just a little too overt. Also, it's a pretty weak, feathery song anyway. It's kind of catchy, but lacks depth and development.
                                                  Anonymous -- Sunday February 12 2006, @11:12AM (#197809)
                                                  You Have Killed Me (Score:1)
                                                  It is a fantastic song, and a really catchy and grower at that. I don't think it's going to chart that great however, but then again, it's Morrissey.

                                                  I predict it coming in at number 9 in the charts.
                                                  Foster -- Sunday February 12 2006, @11:46AM (#197812)
                                                  (User #14088 Info)
                                                    well, let's see... (Score:1)
                                                    comparing only with Moz-solo singles cos 1) everyone knows that The Smiths were easily one of the greatest singles acts of alltime and most of their singles are better than anything else out there, and 2) ifinf there to be such a distinction between The Smiths and Moz-solo that the comparison is often like that of apples and oranges.

                                                    so, "You Have Killed Me" is

                                                    less than "Suedehead"

                                                    less than "Everyday Is Like Sunday"

                                                    less than "The Last Of The Famous International Playboys"

                                                    less than "Interesting Drug"

                                                    greater than "Ouija Board, Ouija Board" (though ilov this song, it lacks the necessary qualities of a great single)

                                                    less than "November Spawned A Monster"

                                                    greater than "Piccadilly Palare" (again, great track but not exactly a great single)

                                                    less than or equal to "Our Frank" (ifind this song has been underrated as a single, though i'll admit it's not necessarily the most immediate track)

                                                    less than or equal to "Sing Your Life" (id probably be siding more with the less than when comparing with the 'Kill Uncle' singles, but iknow im amongst the minority of those who think this album is a masterpiece)

                                                    greater than "Pregnant For The Last Time" (a fun track, but probably a little too bizzare to really work as a single)

                                                    greater than "My Love Life" (this would be a less than if we were talking about the KROQ version, but ive always found the studio version to be somewhat over produced and its a little deadpan, especially for a single)

                                                    less than or equal to "We Hate It When Our Friends Become Successful" (id say definitely less than, but iknow some find this to be a weaker single- theyre crazy)

                                                    less than or equal to "You're The One For Me, Fatty" (this is a closer call than the first 'Your Arsenal' single due to the lesser lyrics, but id still probably side with less than)

                                                    less than “Tomorrow” (not released as single in the UK)

                                                    less than or equal to “Certain People I Know” (again, id say less than but iknow others find this to be a weaker single)

                                                    less than “The More You Ignore Me, The Closer I Ger”

                                                    less than or equal to “Hold On To Your Friends” (most songs don’t come close to this song in my mind, but iknow some find it to be a weak single and ican see how its not necessarily single material- still id be with the less thans)

                                                    greater than “Interlude” (a nice song/duet, but not a very good single)

                                                    less than “Now My Heart Is Full” (not released as a single in the UK)

                                                    less than “Boxers”

                                                    equal to “Dagenham Dave” (totally different tracks, but equally strong singles for different reasons)

                                                    less than “The Boy Racer” (still the most ripping single he’s ever released)

                                                    less than or equal to “Sunny” (id say less than, but would admit that this isn’t exactly top single material- great song though)

                                                    less than “Alma Matters” (ithink this is one of Moz’s most underrated singles and songs of his career, an absolute classic)

                                                    greater than “Roy’s Keen” (ifind this song to often be unfairly slated as well, but admit that it is a little strange and probably too much so for a single- ilov it though)

                                                    greater than “Satan Rejected My Soul” (this couldve been an alltime classic had they managed to capture in the studio the kind of passion coveyed in live performances of the song- as is though it misses the mark)

                                                    less than “Irish Blood, English Heart” (the second most ripping single he’s ever released)

                                                    less than or equal to “First Of The Gang To Die” (ido enjoy this song, but ialso find it to be one of the more overrated of his career)

                                                    equal to “Let Me Kiss You”

                                                    greater than “I Have Forgiven Jesus” (this couldve been a staggeringly amazing track, but unfortunately ifind the production and instrumentation marrs it somewhat- still good, but it misses the mark- not exactly what idve called single material anyway)

                                                    well then, of Morrissey’s 30 previous solo singles ihav “You Have Killed Me” ranking higher than only 7 tracks while being equal to

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                                                    chrisarclark <clarkinatorclark@hotmail.com> -- Sunday February 12 2006, @04:13PM (#197828)
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                                                    "I'm just passing through here on my way to somewhere civilized and maybe I'll even arrive, maybe I'll even arrive..."
                                                    Quite a step backward (Score:1)
                                                    YHKM strikes me as being structurally quite similar to Suedehead. Approximately the same BPM, the same 2-bar chord changes and rooughly the same arrangement. Not to suggest that they sound alike - different progressions and instrumentation, however, if I were to write a Morrissey song by formula, this is where I would start.

                                                    Suedehead also has a much catchier chorus and benefits from having sounded fresh some 18 years ago.
                                                    Mmmmmm -- Sunday February 12 2006, @07:09PM (#197837)
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                                                    Fantastic!!! (Score:1)
                                                    It's a GROWER!
                                                    Already sounds like a classic...
                                                    djcharlesbronson -- Sunday February 12 2006, @11:08PM (#197847)
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                                                      ooh, the 'really goods' are about to overtake ... (Score:0)
                                                      the 'ok's'!
                                                      the results of this poll have changed a lot over the last few days. initially only a third of us thought the single was brilliant or really good. now it's nearly half of us. I guess the people voting later have heard it a few more times and it seems like this song is a bit of a grower...
                                                      J
                                                      Anonymous -- Monday February 13 2006, @01:46AM (#197851)
                                                      Sort of along the lines with Suzanne (Score:1)
                                                      I agree that the songs go over-hyped and there might be some letdown. I think its a good single. I wonder what type of airplay it will get in the US. IBEH got a lot in Boston.

                                                      But back to the hype meeting reality, here is a little story.

                                                      Morrissey was in a record store once and Peter? Buck (can't remember if that is his first name) from REM was in there too. Buck was looking at a record as if he planned on purchasing it. Morrissey said to him (and I don't have the exact quote so please post it if you do), "It's better in your heart than it will ever be in reality."

                                                      Having said that, I think Far Off Places is excellent but didn't have the heavy metal sound I was expecting but that song stays in my head. With the great levels of ADD that I have, this is quite a feat. I really hope we get this one live. I really hope we get a legitimate US tour.

                                                      Dear God, Please Help Me is a song I just haven't gotten into yet. Maybe someday. I don't hate it or think it's bad, it just doesn't do anything for the kegs between my legs.

                                                      And of course there is the single. This song also is in my head all the time. My favourite part of the song is the last lines of the song.

                                                      bored -- Monday February 13 2006, @06:02AM (#197874)
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                                                      You Don't Understand People. (Score:0)
                                                      Morrissey needs a new audience not the die-hard Smith's obsessives. Middle class people that appreciate opera and the ballet will love "You Have Killed Me". I personally think it is wonderful. I quite like this "conventional" Morrissey. No long words, or witticisms. He's proved he can string a sentence together now he's just enjoying his vocal range and seeing how far his voice will go. Everything has been said already in pop music anyway. The new Morrissey is the kind of music you put on when you are have a dinner party or book launch. I think "until you came with the key" is a beautiful line, so simply and heartfelt. He shouldn't need to prove himself anymore, plenty of other older artists use "basis imagery" and it works. I do think though having new musicians would improve his work though. The crew is getting a bit jaded now, it's not as though it's a group is it? He owes them nothing he should move on. I think it's laziness on Morrissey he feels uncertain in a changing music world and doesn't actually know who to work with. He'd rather coast along with "jobbing musicians" than have people who will challenge him. Just be glad that there is a new album and have done with it. ~Long Live Ringleader Of The Tormentors~ P.s. If you keep criticising him he might just give up!
                                                      NaomiGoth -- Monday February 13 2006, @09:41AM (#197888)
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                                                      Morrissey is DEFINITELY gay.
                                                      "Until you came with the key" (Score:1)
                                                      I think this is one of the cheesiest lines he's ever had. I shudder slightly when I hear it. I may never get over it. I still do like the song but that line leaves a lot to be desired.
                                                      bored -- Monday February 13 2006, @10:14AM (#197895)
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                                                      I hear Morrissey (Score:1)


                                                       
                                                      Anaesthesine -- Monday February 13 2006, @09:04PM (#197971)
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                                                      If Moz did not exist, it would be necessary to invent him.
                                                      Haven't Heard It (Score:1)
                                                      Is this song say as good as "Alma Matters" when it came out, better, not as good?
                                                      Exchanging Palare -- Monday February 13 2006, @09:27PM (#197972)
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                                                      It seems we are finally get a balanced view. (Score:0)
                                                      This song is average at best.
                                                      Anonymous -- Tuesday February 14 2006, @08:36AM (#198020)
                                                      Happy Valentine's Day... (Score:1)
                                                      Here's the scene:

                                                      Two lovers are walking through Rome. The speaker is giddy with delight. They are on the Piazza Cavour, and the speaker is saying "Ok, I'm Passolini, and you're my Accatone," playacting like kids. Then he says "I'm Visconti, and you're - well, you're no Magnani..." Funny and, as with all Moz songs, suggestive as well.

                                                      Then comes the entering, and the coming, and the key, which works on the obvious levels, but is still charming - it is Morrissey, after all.

                                                      Then the rousing chorus equating love and oblivion.

                                                      At last comes forgiveness.

                                                      Sweet.

                                                      Anaesthesine -- Tuesday February 14 2006, @08:53AM (#198025)
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                                                      If Moz did not exist, it would be necessary to invent him.
                                                      Not bad but... (Score:1)
                                                      Anyone who thinks this is Morrisseys' best single hasn't heard enough of him to even qualify for an opinion. It's not bad, thats as much as I would give it catchy, infectious maybe but not his best by a long way. As always there will be tracks on the album we will think he should have released instead but without hearing them I cannot comment on what they are. Not a bad effort but not the classic he is capable of..I hope.
                                                      Sleepy lifeguard * -- Tuesday February 14 2006, @10:09AM (#198036)
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                                                        Oh my... (Score:1)
                                                        I would really like to shake hands with on off those 50-odd people who claims YHKM is one of his worst songs.
                                                        It must feel delightful to shake hands with a pure imbecile.
                                                        Rodchenko -- Tuesday February 14 2006, @10:34AM (#198039)
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                                                        Are You Loathesome Tonight?
                                                        • Re:Oh my... by Anonymous (Score:0) Tuesday February 14 2006, @12:47PM
                                                          • Re:Oh my... by Rodchenko (Score:1) Wednesday February 15 2006, @05:55AM
                                                          'Dear God Please Help Me' (Score:0)
                                                          ...is a Morrissey/Tobias composition. So all those who love this song but not the other two will see that Jesse is more than capable. Obviously, he didn't do the Morricone bit.

                                                          The single is fine. It is not even the best song on the album, by far. But it's still very decent.
                                                          Anonymous -- Tuesday February 14 2006, @10:35AM (#198040)
                                                          Late to the party as always... (Score:1)
                                                          And look I'm going to say what half of the other people are saying here as well. I voted for Average. Sorry, but I find that musically he's going over the same ground with this. And the lyrics aren't exactly bursting with ideas either. They're quite funny, and work on a few levels like Moz lyrics often do, but there's something missing. I am not exactly over-enamoured with the singing either- especially in the light of the fact that his vocals on YATQ showed his voice was at its best so far. But it is fairly catchy, and pleasant enough.

                                                          Personally I think it would have been better as a B-side but Moz is notorious for making poor choices when it comes to singles anyway, so it's more of the same in that respect.

                                                          Like so many other of the more 'muso' Moz fans, I am looking for him to do something more experimental rather than Moz-by-numbers, at least once, before he throws his shirt into the audience for the last time.

                                                          I am not about to sound the death knell because after YATQ I was convinced he was going to become the new Sinatra or something- AND I have heard that the new album sounds better than this- but perhaps he wasn't joking when he said...

                                                          You know I couldn't last.
                                                          bobmozza -- Tuesday February 14 2006, @01:41PM (#198083)
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                                                            what are you talking about? (Score:1)
                                                            what is all this talk about Morrissey being "notorious" for making bad choices for singles?

                                                            basically all of Morrissey's singles hav been great. yes, he's missed great opportunities on "Glamourous Glue", "Speedway" and perhaps "Trouble Loves Me" and yes "Tomorrow" and "Now My Heart Is Full" shouldve been released in the UK as well as the US, but still overall his singles collection is excellent.

                                                            "You Have Killed Me" is another great single and even with only having heard three tracks off the album so far im certain that it wouldve been one of my top choices for single release.
                                                            chrisarclark <clarkinatorclark@hotmail.com> -- Wednesday February 15 2006, @06:33AM (#198182)
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                                                            "I'm just passing through here on my way to somewhere civilized and maybe I'll even arrive, maybe I'll even arrive..."
                                                            Non Visconti, sed Biscotti (Score:1)
                                                            :D That lyric overexcited me the first time I heard it.....*ahem*......

                                                            I really like it. The lyrics are nothing spectacular, but they fit the music beautifully, and the production's marvellous. It's stuck in my head, and isn't annoying me. Lovely.
                                                            Biscuit Buscemi -- Wednesday February 15 2006, @01:44PM (#198272)
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                                                              You Have Bored Me (Score:1)
                                                              *yawn*

                                                              LoafingOaf * <franticflintstoneNO@SPAMgmail.com> -- Wednesday February 15 2006, @03:00PM (#198299)
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                                                              Fuck it, Dude. Let's go bowling.
                                                                sing what u want to sing! (Score:1)
                                                                LET THE GUY SING WHAT HE WANTS TO SING! -im sick of people constantly critisizing his work. lets just be glad that Mr M is still here -he is still making music, which may in some peoples eyes not be the best he has EVER done - but who cares? He is a thousand times better than anybody else out there! The days of the smiths have long gone! but we still have Morrissey - he is still here singing songs with meaning and feeling just like he has been since ...well forever -people love his music so much they feel disapointed when he does something slightly different, its better than nothing at all! - If Morrissey did what people wanted he just wouldnt be Morrissey!

                                                                By the way - i like the new song! - thank u M
                                                                10 ton truck -- Wednesday February 15 2006, @05:32PM (#198322)
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                                                                Smiths/Morrissey music in the movies. (Score:1)
                                                                What songs other than "Please Please Please Let Me..", from Pretty In Pink, and "How Soon Is Now", from The Wedding Singer", have appeared in movies?
                                                                Exchanging Palare -- Thursday February 16 2006, @12:01PM (#198411)
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                                                                you have killed me (Score:1)
                                                                for once mozza has done a nice, simple, catchy, slightly rocky, easy listening tune, we've been crying out for this for years, no moz haters can argue with this tune its fantastic, will do well in pub jukeboxes and clubs, hey u can actually dance to this.
                                                                brinlaho -- Thursday February 16 2006, @03:44PM (#198481)
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                                                                Not good (Score:0)
                                                                I think it is ok but it would not make me go out and buy an album so it doesn't really do the job of promoting the new album very well in fact I will not now be rushing out to buy it like I was going to, I will wait until I've heard some more of it first and see what other people think of it. Also I hope that the tour is full of more rousing stuff than this otherwise I shall be selling some tickets.
                                                                Anonymous -- Friday February 17 2006, @11:47AM (#198663)
                                                                  Light my fire. (Score:2, Insightful)
                                                                  I like it because it releases some tension by putting poetry to otherwise unvalidated territory.
                                                                  redpathetic <redpathetic@yahoo.com> -- Friday February 17 2006, @05:25PM (#198725)
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                                                                  Happy in this final acceptance of his own absurdity...Albert Camus
                                                                    A Happy Morrissey, we should have him stuffed (Score:1)
                                                                    A Happy Morrissey, we should have him stuffed,
                                                                    from the sound of things we're too late :)
                                                                    A really good POP song.
                                                                    Well done that man
                                                                    rik recked <rikrecked@ntlworld.com> -- Friday February 17 2006, @09:27PM (#198737)
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                                                                    rik
                                                                      'Far Off Places' much Better (Score:0)
                                                                      Far Off Places really rocks out; I really really dig that one. You Have Killed Me just seems like a run of the mill morrissey lament.
                                                                      Anonymous -- Saturday February 18 2006, @07:29AM (#198763)
                                                                      You Have Killed Me (Score:0)
                                                                      Great album track, boring single. It does make me yearn to hear the rest of the album, so in that sense it worked.
                                                                      Anonymous -- Wednesday February 22 2006, @07:44AM (#199315)
                                                                        Appalled by some fans (Score:0)
                                                                        Now that I have read through all these various comments, I really have to say that some kind of fans really make me sick. All this talk about songs that "suck" or are "crap" or whatever... Someone who uses such words about Morrissey should be aware of the fact that he (or she) is an egotistical, downright narzistic person, because he has a cut and dried notion about his idol, who is not allowed to pursue what HE thinks is the right thing. All these so-called fans, that prove to be the harshest of critics if their needs are not met, see Morrissey as someone who has to deliver what THEY believe is right. They do not realize for one second that they do not show the slightest RESPECT for the artist they claim to adore. I for my part think that 99% of today`s pop music "sucks", "is crap" (and so on), but I would never ever write that a Morrissey-song is crap, even if I maybe don`t like it that much.
                                                                        With fans like those, Morrissey actually doesn`t need enemies anymore.
                                                                        Stephan (Germany)
                                                                        Anonymous -- Thursday February 23 2006, @01:06PM (#199725)
                                                                        what i think of "you have killed me" (Score:0)
                                                                        this is a brilliant song and the lyrics are spectacular... "as i live and breathe...you have killed me..you have killed me" that really gets me...i love those lines....Morrissey's albums, songs, lyrics just keep getting better and better!!!he truly understands me and you... the quiet, shy, artistic and unlovable!! Steven Patrick Morrissey thank you!!! i never asked to be born either.. love unlovable truly
                                                                        Anonymous -- Sunday March 05 2006, @04:41PM (#201509)
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