Let's play Morrissey Survivor. Vote one studio album out every couple of days. [round 3] (suggested by Jerk The Dog)
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Viva Hate   10% 158 / 10%
Your Arsenal   6% 96 / 6%
Vauxhall And I   5% 83 / 5%
Southpaw Grammar   55% 796 / 55%
You Are The Quarry   21% 305 / 21%
1438 total votes.

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i hate viva hate (Score:0, Troll)
everyday is like boring
dial a crappy song
late night, im tired of listening to this album
break up the cd
Anonymous -- Saturday June 18 2005, @08:06AM (#167689)
Down with Hate (Score:1)
Time for Viva to go. However I fear the terribly misunderstood but magnicent Southpaw will be once again terribly misunderstood.

Viva hate feels too contrived too rushed and the production is ghastly. How can something as majestic as "everyday" sound so timid when it should be as epic as it live.

Its probably just me but I'm not enjoying this as much as The Smiths one.
Spellbound -- Saturday June 18 2005, @09:03AM (#167700)
(User #13956 Info)
........a life affirming voice set to a heavenly guitar melody, a killer bass line and a impassioned drum beat.
no comparisons (Score:0)
I don't these polls because they inherently imply that some stuff Morrissey produces is not as good as other stuff. Everything he touches is a gem. He is that (very) rare performer (only other one is Elvis Costello - also Irish!) who can't seem to make a bad move or produce the occasional medicore product. If Moz had his own clothing line, he would OWN Manhattan, and I would own the entire line. Even if I didn't like a particular, say, shirt, I would buy it and wear it proudly, knowing that it is beautiful because HE thinks so.
Anonymous -- Saturday June 18 2005, @09:04AM (#167701)
sqeewk (Score:0, Flamebait)
gee this isn't getting predictable or anything .. the oder these albums end up will be the order they get voted out .. so whats the point?
Anonymous -- Saturday June 18 2005, @09:13AM (#167704)
  • Re:sqeewk by Anonymous (Score:0) Saturday June 18 2005, @10:26AM
    • Re:sqeewk by the write one (Score:1) Saturday June 18 2005, @07:06PM
      • Re:sqeewk by Anonymous (Score:0) Sunday June 19 2005, @04:04AM
      This one is....... (Score:0)
      This one is very boring because we know damn well what's gonna happen.

      I like Southpaw Grammer alot and I think people may miss the point that they were just having a good time in the studio making that album. Releasing some steam from the pressure of following a masterpiece just like REM's Monster ... I guess people hated that too though ...
      Morrissey doesn't seem to have fun in the studio much, being a seeming perfectionist and all. That's why I like Southpaw. Of course Teachers and Southpaw are wonderful, diverse epics to bookend the good straight ahead Rock of the others. Probably the purest release ....

      Piece -

      Micropenis ... and please don't comment on my name, I got enough grief in school !
      Anonymous -- Saturday June 18 2005, @09:16AM (#167705)
      southpaw grammar (Score:1)
      i'm sorry southpaw. i feel really bad for voting you off, but i had to do it. you were there for me when i was first getting to know morrissey and i really love most of your songs, but there are only 8 of them, and that extended drum intro just has to go. i can still remember hearing "the boy racer" for the first time 10 years ago. maybe if you had put "nobody loves us" on your track listing you'd still be here today.
      jp.5.22 -- Saturday June 18 2005, @10:05AM (#167713)
      (User #12669 Info)
      Damn shame. (Score:3, Informative)
      That's Southpaw gone then - and very unfairly too. Hell of an album.

      Don't know if this has been reported before but there's a website called Stylus Magazine (www.stylusmagazine.com) which has reported it's Top 10 'Underrated Morrissey Solo Songs'.

      Here's the article;

      Staff Top 10
      Top Ten Underrated Morrissey Solo Songs

      There are some Smiths fans who won’t even touch Morrissey’s solo stuff. Then there are the middle-grounders, those who will only admit to liking Your Arsenal, Vauxhall and I, and some of Viva Hate. Further along on the spectrum you have the younger generation, the teens and twenty-somethings who like Morrissey’s solo stuff just as much or more than his Smiths stuff (the most notorious group in this demographic being southwestern Hispanics). But the largest demographic is those who haven’t heard any of Morrissey’s solo stuff beyond “Everyday Is Like Sunday” and maybe “The More You Ignore Me, The Closer I Get.” So, I understand that a list of the most underrated Morrissey solo songs is scraping the barrel of obscurity. Nevertheless, in honor of His (yes, a capital “H” is in order) first studio album in seven years, I’ve compiled this woefully short (I had to widdle down my original twenty to the ten you find here) list of the Mozzers most underlooked and underrated solo songs. For those who haven’t even heard any of Morrissey’s solo stuff, forget this list and go buy the “November Spawned A Monster” single.

      10) “Alsatian Cousin”
      One has to remember that this was the first post-Smiths song of Morrissey’s solo career. Some truly menacing guitar work by Vini Reilly perfectly fits with Morrissey’s sneering lyrics of demanded love. Remembering that the last song Morrissey committed to tape before this was the gentle “I Won’t Share You” makes the contrast even more stark. Which may be the reason the song is largely ignored in the Morrissey-solo canon: nobody, most of all Smiths fans, was ready to hear him lustfully snarl “But on the desk is where I want you!"

      09) “Satan Rejected My Soul”
      Morrissey tackles the theme of his ultimate resting place w/ the wit and style that were missing from his other post-mortality tale, “There’s a Place In Hell for Me and My Friends.” It is an uproarious, catchy piece of music, with a wonderfully hilarious lyric to boot. The Smiths/Morrissey fan site It May All End Tomorrow says it best: “I love these lyrics - Morrissey carting his soul around on a wheelbarrow in a vain attempt to get someone to take it. The ultimate snub - he won't even be given an afterlife.”

      08) “I’ve Changed My Plea To Guilty”
      Most artists only wish they could write just one lyric like “I’ve changed my plea to guilty / Because freedom is wasted on me / Outside there is a pain / Emotional air raids exhausted my heart / And it's safer to be inside.” One of Morrissey’s best piano ballads, it also contains one of his most melodramatic, theatrical vocal takes.

      07) “Seasick, Yet Still Docked”
      One of Morrissey’s most introspective songs, it’s underevaluation is most likely due to it being curiously sandwiched between the jocular ‘You’re the One for Me, Fatty” and the gospel-glam of “I Know It’s Gonna Happen Someday.” A simple acoustic melody backs Morrissey’s stark autobiographical lyrics that cover his entire, and lengthy, list of insecurities. If I was asked to point to one song that summed up What Is Morrissey?, I would aim the questioner here.

      06) “Let the Right One Slip In”
      For those saying Morrissey has gone all punk-pop with You are the Quarry haven’t heard this slab of power-popness. A sly title and concept laden with sexual undertones, the listener isn’t quite sure what this “one” is until the final lines: “Let the right one slip in / And when at last it does / I'd say you were within your rights to bite / The right one and say / "What kept you so long?" The image of Morrissey biting the tongue of a lover he’s waited so long for is so typically brilliant of him.

      05) “Sunny” and “Boxers”
      Both written in ‘95 during Morris

      Read the rest of this comment...

      Stan * <stanleymchale@mac.com> -- Saturday June 18 2005, @10:55AM (#167720)
      (User #9752 Info | http://www.stanleymchale.merseyblogs.co.uk/ )
      viva hate (Score:1)
      i went with viva hate again, for the same reasons as the last round.

      great record, but the others are better when taken as complete albums.

      LoafingOaf * <franticflintstoneNO@SPAMgmail.com> -- Saturday June 18 2005, @12:12PM (#167735)
      (User #778 Info)
      Fuck it, Dude. Let's go bowling.
      • Re:viva hate by Anonymous (Score:0) Saturday June 18 2005, @12:23PM
        • Re:viva hate by Anonymous (Score:0) Saturday June 18 2005, @12:40PM
          • Re:viva hate by Anonymous (Score:0) Sunday June 19 2005, @06:35AM
          • Re:viva hate by LoafingOaf (Score:1) Saturday June 18 2005, @12:52PM
            • Re:viva hate by lg (Score:1) Saturday June 18 2005, @12:52PM
            not southpaw!! (Score:0)
            i'm glad it's made it this far at least... southpaw deserves more credit. i wonder how many people voting even own it, maladjusted, or kill uncle.

            are morrissey fans really this predictable?

            it would also have been nice if at least one song from any of the 3 mentioned albums had appeared on the recent live dvd or cd. but what can you expect from the show canceling fan hater?(jk)
            Anonymous -- Saturday June 18 2005, @01:10PM (#167756)
              You Are The Quarry should go (Score:0)
              It is Morrissey's worst album and doesn't have more than two good songs.

              The Never Played Symphonies is a remarkable song and The First Of The Gang To Die is good too.

              The rest is poor by anyone's standard.

              My own personal favourite was Southpaw and you fools wouldn't know a good song if you saw one.

              broken
              Anonymous -- Saturday June 18 2005, @01:12PM (#167757)
              Another vote for 'Southpaw' (Score:0)
              I never listen to this cd. The cover art was crap, very little album notes and it just doesn't go anywhere. I will say there were one or two good songs but that's it.
              Thetexasbloke
              Anonymous -- Saturday June 18 2005, @02:14PM (#167763)
                Southpaw or Quarry? (Score:0)
                The choice now is between these two. I voted off Southpaw, for the reasons everyone has mentioned. Quarry is quite underrated in this comment section. It has at least five gems, great b-sides and means a lot more to Morrissey's career than Soutpaw did.
                The next choice should be, in my opinion, between Quarry and Your Arsenal; After that, Your Arsenal or Viva Hate; Finally, Viva Hate or Vauxhall and I, being VH and I the winner, for it is a perfect album, one of the best albums ever, whether you are a Moz fan or not.
                Anonymous -- Saturday June 18 2005, @02:35PM (#167767)
                Ugh (Score:0)
                I can't believe the bore-fest that is "You Are The Quarry" is beating out the sublime "Southpaw Grammar". The album lacks any of Morrissey's trademark venom and wit (since when did Morrissey say the word "shit" in his songs?), and the musical backing is - to be generous - lacking.

                "There's too many people
                Planning your downfall
                When your spirit's on trial
                These nights can be frightening
                Sleep transports sadness
                To some other mid-brain
                And somebody here
                Will not be here next year"

                I blame it on the new fans.
                Anonymous -- Saturday June 18 2005, @03:26PM (#167770)
                it hurts... (Score:1)

                It really hurts to see this album so far ahead of all the others. Sure it didn't have the lyrics. But don't you know them? God, this album is too good to deleted now.

                I am so over YATQ. It shall be last on my list forevermore.

                Once its gone, I want you to listen to Southpaw Grammar again and see what you have done.
                palare * -- Saturday June 18 2005, @05:51PM (#167787)
                (User #152 Info | http://worldofabrahan.com/ )
                where the world's ugliest boy became what you see...
                  A tad off topic... (Score:0)
                  Through all of these poll rounds and whatnot...where can I score The Edges are No Longer Parallel? Only on the Roy's Keen single? Or is there any collection I can pick it up on?

                  Thanks.
                  Peace.
                  Anonymous -- Sunday June 19 2005, @08:07AM (#167832)
                  • Re:A tad off topic... by Poppycocteau (Score:1) Sunday June 19 2005, @08:56AM
                    • Re:A tad off topic... (Score:2, Informative)
                      There was a compilation CD released in Japan (at least I think it was Japan) called "Rare Tracks" shortly after "Maladjusted" that featured all the "Maladjusted" b-sides - I'm not sure if it is still available or not though, I'm afraid.
                      deathfornoreason -- Sunday June 19 2005, @09:54AM (#167854)
                      (User #11135 Info)
                      You don't agree, but you don't refuse - I know you
                      [ Parent ]
                      quarrrry (Score:0)
                      YATQ is in my opinion a very poor album,and one that I don't bother much with now.Southpaw Grammar has some gems on it but Viva Hate should win, absolute quality other than a couple of duff tracks (dial a cliche, margaret on the guillotine).

                      david
                      Anonymous -- Sunday June 19 2005, @08:41AM (#167835)
                        You are the Quarry (Score:1)
                        Looking at this vote, I can see You are the quarry up for the next "eviction?" Why? It is a great album with many great tunes such as How does anyone know how I feel, Lazy Dykes, Come back to Camden to name a few, along with 4 top ten hits. The last time Morrissey made the top ten was in April 1989 with Interesting drug. We have had to endure a 7 year wait for a new album, and during that time, we were anticipating, will he ever be back? We should be delighted and joyful that our man has returned even stronger. Who knows with the right backing and promotions, Moz, could of bagged a no 1? The Quarry is great, lets save the Quarry, what are your thoughts?
                        Maladjusted1975 -- Sunday June 19 2005, @09:14AM (#167839)
                        (User #14348 Info)
                        Nineteen Ninety-Five (Score:2, Interesting)
                        so many try to paint 1995 as the year the magic ended for Moz. whata load of shite. look at the songs that came out of that year:

                        Best Friend On The Payroll
                        Black-Eyed Susan
                        Boxers
                        The Boy Racer
                        Dagenham Dave
                        Do Your Best And Don't Worry
                        Have-A-Go Merchant
                        Nobody Loves Us
                        The Operation
                        Reader Meet Author
                        Southpaw
                        Sunny
                        A Swallow On My Neck
                        The Teachers Are Afraid Of The Pupils
                        Whatever Happens, I Love You
                        You Must Please Remember

                        nota duff track amongst them- all originals, all great songs with some of his best and most daring work ever. 1995 may very well hav been Morrissey's creative peak- everything he touched turned to gold- yet still very few it seems truly appreciate it.

                        idont believe 'Southpaw Grammar' to be Morrissey's best album, but not for a lack of great songs and certainly not for the inclusion of any id consider to be poor. those who come on here to say that this album and this period was anything less than excellent for Morrissey are missing out.
                        chrisarclark <clarkinatorclark@hotmail.com> -- Sunday June 19 2005, @01:02PM (#167873)
                        (User #9259 Info)
                        "I'm just passing through here on my way to somewhere civilized and maybe I'll even arrive, maybe I'll even arrive..."
                        Southpaw... (Score:0)
                        What I have grown to realise over the past few months and weeks, is that the more die-hard Morrissey fans (yeah, this is very general, but...) love Southpaw... I've been to a few festivals, where myself and another person persay, have been wearing a Morrissey or Smiths shirt... I approach them always, and my first question is always "What do you think of Southpaw Grammar"... The answer everytime has been that they loved it... One female even said "The press despise it, I love it, you?", I said "I think it's great too!" and I got a handshake for my comment! It comes across to me that most people voting for Southpaw haven't actually heard it... Notice that there are more comments in favour of Southpaw than against it, and way more against Quarry. I love each album in it's own way, and still listen to Southpaw regularly... The raw emotion that you can feel both lyrically and musically in Southpaw and Teachers are among his most clear, and they are truly amazing creations. We love you Southpaw, and we know how much that must mean to you Morrissey!
                        Anonymous -- Sunday June 19 2005, @02:40PM (#167879)
                        • Agreed by Anonymous (Score:0) Monday June 20 2005, @08:53AM
                          Couldn't we cheat and have "Bona Drag" included? (Score:0)
                          I think it by and large stands up as an animal, with a minimum of track overlap. That would come 1st or second on my favorites list anyway.
                          Anonymous -- Monday June 20 2005, @03:19AM (#167917)
                          Someone Rightfully Compared This To Sophie's Choic (Score:1)
                          They are all lovely albums in their own way. It's sad that Southpaw will be carted off like this. I like what someone said on a previous posting comparing this to "Sophie's Choice." Only, we are choosing between 7 children and they're each brilliant in their own way. Southpaw is like the small, undernourished little brother -- he's a boxing obsessed, prog-rock listening stoner, who's brilliant in his own Oscar Wilde meets Jean Genet way. Surely we musn't be forced to foster him out, in favour of his more popular older siblings (and the attention-stealing baby of the family, Quarry). How ever will we choose?!
                          DavidBeauy <davidbeauy@yahoo.com> -- Monday June 20 2005, @08:53AM (#167938)
                          (User #6009 Info | http://beaurock.net/ )
                          "When thirteen years old Who dyed his hair gold ? Oh, I know very well, I don't need to be told"
                            Southpaw Grammar destroys Morrissey's likeability. (Score:0)
                            Morrissey should have never ever recorded anything after THE SMITHS split. SG is bad,bad, bad... I'm so sorry for those die-hards who can't deal with that. The song Southpaw itself is abso-fucking-lutely boring.He barely sings in it. It's a real turn off. Teachers the same....What was his point? 10-minute long songs? WHY????? For heaven's sake...

                            Boy racer is a very humiliating song also. The lyric is so bad it made me not wannna hear from Morrissey for a couple of fortnights.

                            Reader is pure rubbish. The use of the word software destroys it.plus melody is was ripped off from a Herman´s Hermits song.The song is called "Dream on"

                            The operation is embarressing. The drum solo is horrible. Pure filler. WHY THAT?

                            Daggenham Dave is like a mantra.

                            Payroll is awful.

                            Do your best...should be renamed "Do your best and worry"

                            Southpaw Grammar is a hideous crappy 47 miutes of shite music and lyrics.
                            Anonymous -- Monday June 20 2005, @08:55AM (#167939)
                            iu uuu (Score:0)
                            this is a test!
                            Anonymous -- Monday June 20 2005, @12:17PM (#167992)
                              Am i missing something?? (Score:0)
                              wot did he post??
                              Anonymous -- Saturday June 18 2005, @11:49AM (#167728)
                              [ Parent ]
                                Re:he is already banned lol (Score:0)
                                I live in Edinburgh and I know you Paul Laird.
                                I also know freeyourself from the S&G and know he is not fat, in fact he looks like Morrissey.
                                Why don't you stop being silly or I may tell the people something you wouldn't like.
                                Now be told.
                                Anonymous -- Saturday June 18 2005, @12:33PM (#167742)
                                [ Parent ]
                                Re:join the campaign to get freeyourself banned (Score:0)
                                well what's this about then?
                                Anonymous -- Sunday June 19 2005, @03:49AM (#167805)
                                [ Parent ]
                                  Re:join the campaign to get broken arrested (Score:0)
                                  i'm not broken,fatty.WE all know you're a nasty old man,fatty.Fatty should stop crying wolf or one day he might get burned.
                                  Anonymous -- Sunday June 19 2005, @09:25AM (#167844)
                                  [ Parent ]
                                  Re:agreed (Score:0)
                                  freeyourself is a great bloke.

                                  broken is the one who has attacked and trolled everyone on this site over the last few years.

                                  freeyourself only ever attacks the trolls, he deserves a medal for standing up to these cowards.
                                  Anonymous -- Sunday June 19 2005, @10:51AM (#167865)
                                  [ Parent ]
                                  • Re:agreed by Anonymous (Score:0) Monday June 20 2005, @04:27AM
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