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Comments / Notes
A log in system works a treat on the jeepster home page!!
Duke of box <coltseevers@hotmail.com>
- Fri, May 19, 2000 at 09:58:44 (PDT) | #1
simple -- include the IP addresses back in with the posts. it'll eliminate the frauds and idiots and possibly bring back some of the people who actually used to visit the message boards before the message boards got awful.
alarcon <michaela@synge.com>
southern california - Fri, May 19, 2000 at 10:02:20 (PDT) | #2
IP addresses do not help when people are using the Internet at universities, libraries, work, etc. As long as people are not breaking the law, who cares what they post or do in the chat room. Inflammatory comments are fine, deal with it. However, harassment should not be tolerated.By the way, Morrissey sucks
Morrissey Sucks
- Fri, May 19, 2000 at 10:17:04 (PDT) | #3
Sad to say but I will have to agree with
M.S. You really can't control the comments.
People will post questionable material even
under a login environment. The best thing to
do would be setting up a word filter or actually monitoring it manually.
By the way, Morrissey sucks, shouldn't you be wearing a helmet? I don't get your sarcasm.
Suffer
- Fri, May 19, 2000 at 12:48:22 (PDT) | #4
Suffer's comments are apalling. Anyone who demands censorship manually, or through a computer chip to delete certain words or "questionable" material is a fascist. I would like to see what you would think if you found out "shoplifters of the world" didn't recieve airplay because it was found to be objectionable. It's just silliness, and the real beasts who pose infringement on people are the ones who pontificate that their morals and opinions shall dictate others. What happened to ideas and free-thought. Certainly, Morrissey would be opposed to a system which allocated oppression of offensive thought.Why not start with deleting Morrissey's quote about Linder Sterling, 'cos it is laced with male chauvanism(?). Grow up and tolerate
suffer is wrong < >
Clark Gable's old house - Fri, May 19, 2000 at 13:02:58 (PDT) | #5
Is alarcon assuming supreme judgement in discerning the idiots from the pretentious fools who used to visit this site. Well, Alarcon, Michaela, whoever you are pales in importance to what you are- You have subscribe to this dreconian perspective on things it seems. So, because you're disenchanted with the site, you see fit to eliminate those who you find disturbing. Why do you feel personal preference should yet again, govern others' speech?You're foolish, ghoulish and childish, and in a rather vulgar fashion.
manifesto < >
sunny L.A. - Fri, May 19, 2000 at 13:11:24 (PDT) | #6
How about a civil discussion without being so surly...All that was suggested is that each person posting information/comments on this site id themselves so as to limit some of the attacks. I posted one slightly sarcastic comment on the discussion board and had my name stolen and used to post racist garbage.
Ken
- Fri, May 19, 2000 at 14:12:47 (PDT) | #7
Morrissey SUcks...Why do you come into this site if you hate him? If u hate Morrissey and you think he sucks then why waste your time coming here and saying stuff...you have no life....Figure out what else to do with your life than come into this site and rag on Morrissey if you dont like him...Plain DUMB!
FAKE NAME <ILL GIVE U A FAKE NAME@aol.com>
CARSOn - Fri, May 19, 2000 at 15:23:27 (PDT) | #8
Freedom of speech is a powerful tool. Good and bad. Some people choose to use it to inform and to shed light on different perspectives; no matter how vulgar and shocking it might be, it's protected. However, "Suffer is wrong", your silly little mind is wandering from the point of my post. I was making reference to the harassment and racism that could lead to legal issues. Would you want this happening in your garden?
Suffer
- Fri, May 19, 2000 at 16:09:58 (PDT) | #9
Something has to be done. To see the rapid demise of a once wonderful board is a horrifying sight. These past six or so months we have had to endure the inane and profane posts of one person who took on ever evolving personas and continually attacked anyone who dared to post a serious or thoughtful message. Racism became the main topic insead of Morrissey. Days go by when there are no posts that even mention Morrissey's name. His extended tour was almost entirely ignored on the board. Please do something. Save the board or tuck it away under your wing.
LOLA
- Fri, May 19, 2000 at 17:45:11 (PDT) | #10
*******sigh*******
Celibate Cry <celibatecry@my-deja.com>
the hills - Fri, May 19, 2000 at 19:01:52 (PDT) | #11
Freedom of speech? what about our right not to be harrassed and abused? The Radiohead site has a login-password system and everything seems to go fine.
Lolly Madonna
- Fri, May 19, 2000 at 21:36:10 (PDT) | #12
Morrissey Sucks is trying to get a rise out of ya. Don't take it seriously.
because I can
- Fri, May 19, 2000 at 21:39:14 (PDT) | #13
I think David already is using some type of language filter. But it's not offensive language that is ruining the boards, it's the mean-spiritness and stupidity. I think David should bring back the discussion board he tried to implement at the start of the year, but make logging in mandatory. That would eliminate the name stealing, at least.
Bertrand
- Fri, May 19, 2000 at 22:03:21 (PDT) | #14
If I may? People are childish. And children, when ignored, go away eventually. At least, that's my experience. There's nothing wrong with being childish, but one must simply understand how to deal with them. A crack on the head? No. Dave, don't put yourself through unnecessary stress. Do nothing. Maybe they'll just go away? I don't know. You do such a good job with this website, I'm sure whatever you decide to do will suffice. Thanks for everything you do, Dave. Take good care.
Jamie
Salt Lake City - Sat, May 20, 2000 at 00:53:36 (PDT) | #15
Jamie, if it hasn't gone away after all these months, it isn't going to go away on its own. Intervention is definitely necessary now. There is only the method to consider now. It is sad that the immaturity of a few should affect the many Morrissey fans so.
LOLA
- Sat, May 20, 2000 at 06:41:47 (PDT) | #16
It IS sad but I am trying to take it with a grain of salt. We are quite a diverse group, and while I do not enjoy vulgarity, I guess it may be a sign of the times and something we just have to put up with. I still think you have the BEST site David, and if putting up with a few idiots is the price, then to me it's worth it! CHEERS!!!
Mike
Mike Head <michael_head@hotmail.com>
Denver Colorado - Sat, May 20, 2000 at 09:48:31 (PDT) | #17
David,
I am sorry after all the hard FREE work you put into this site that some people abuse it. However I don't think a login system would be a good solution. I like the quickness of posting messages here and the anominity of it. Why not let the reader beware and know that names are just names and people are liars, cheats and thieves and that this site is as much an example of that as of Morrissey fans sharing a passion. Thank you David for this great site.
M
Dave Tseng is a Good Man
- Sat, May 20, 2000 at 16:27:41 (PDT) | #18
david,finally youve said what ive been saying for a long time...enough with the abuse allready!!!!!!!we're tired of it....i am&so are the countless others who come here everyday just to see a friend or to meet someone new...i agree that you cant stop it,but,doing what you did by posting,maybe will wake these fools up.....noone&i mean noone wants to have their name slandered all over the place....ive gotten my name hijascked...ive had people say "well the goof said this or that"why?what does that do?it hurts people who are friends of mine&thats the lasat thing in this wolrd i wanna do is to hurt my many friends here....stand up&take a bow david!!!!your the man...we've needed this for quite sometime.so,to all those people out there davids refering to:grow the helll up!if you dont like someone in here or just wanna come here to start crap....DONT!!!!!!GO SOMEWHERE ELSE...WE DONT NEED IT!!!!we all love you david.......keep up the good work....yours truely,the goof{jeff}
biggoof_99
vegas baby!!!! - Sat, May 20, 2000 at 18:14:25 (PDT) | #19
I think we're all adult enough to deal with offensive posting on the discussion boards. You can't stifle freedom of expression.But the current trend of impersonation in the chatroom is unacceptable, and the harrasment, viruses and hate-mail received by people who choose to display their e-mail is just downright abhorrent. A lot of people I know are turning their backs on something that used to be really enjoyable because their names are being tainted. I for one am now very weary when in 1-to-1 conversation with someone I know because on several occasions those people have suddenly started hurling abuse at me for no reason and revealed themselves as imposters... Perhaps then we could have a system whereby everyone's nickname(s)is linked to their individual password. Hence, no invasion of privacy, but people can trust that someone else won't be able to reduce their reputation to dirt.
Ghostface
VeryUnhappyPlanet - Sun, May 21, 2000 at 05:21:48 (PDT) | #20
I agree wholeheartedly with Ghostface and Jeff. Give us unique passwords, and the abusive people can go kick their dog if they wish! (Not really, I am an animal lover! :)
Mike Head <michael_head@hotmail.com>
Denver Colorado - Sun, May 21, 2000 at 06:27:39 (PDT) | #21
Obviously the people who don't see the 'big deal' are not the one's who have been relentlessly stalked, harassed and threatened.
alida
- Sun, May 21, 2000 at 17:33:43 (PDT) | #22
We need to set up an abuse and harassment assessment committee. First, the formal definitions of harassment and abuse need to be clearly spelled out. Second, a plan for identifying, judging, and punishing offenders needs to be set up. Third, after steps one and two are complete, the plan in its entirety needs to be added to the Morrissey-Solo logon page (like a EULA) so that all who enter understand the rules of the website. After all that is done, we can all get back to celebrating...umm...whom are we celebrating again?
high-court jousters
- Sun, May 21, 2000 at 19:50:32 (PDT) | #23
So what if you get the IP? Where do you go to link an IP with an individual name if you are not law enforcement?
tjotie
- Mon, May 22, 2000 at 01:16:22 (PDT) | #24
Suggestions:1. Keep the current format since most folks seem very very attached to it. 2. Provide a registration (with password) option for people who want to reserve a handle for themselves. That way nobody else can use it. Do this for the general message board, the news boards and the chat. Just stick a password field under the 'name' field. 3. Allow everyone else to use whatever names haven't been reserved, if they don't want to bother with passwords and stuff. That ought to bring a halt to some of the big problems, at least. Oh, and 4. HAPPY BIRTHDAY MORRISSEY! Hooray! I'll set off some sparklers for you tonight (since it's Victoria day too).
i haven't got one
- Mon, May 22, 2000 at 05:57:32 (PDT) | #25
People have "stolen" my name to write racist crap too. It is really tragic that people have to write racist garbage, but there is not much you can do. Even with a sign in policy, one can still set up for an account and write what they want anyway.The problem is Morrissey attracts crazy people who are insecure about them selves and who like to put others down. They are just shadowing their loser hero Morrissey. Morrissey always spouts hate, how he hates this group, how he hates this political leader, how he hates this city, that country, etc... Until these Morrissey fans get help, they will remain losers like their fallen hero Morrissey. Morrissey sucks, and unfortunately, most of his fans do too.
Morrissey Sucks
- Mon, May 22, 2000 at 08:53:29 (PDT) | #26
Morrissey Sucks..actually you are the only person who sucks!!!! well on this face of the earth..you think you know everything...but you know nothing! your just ignorant...and well ignoring him will not help!! to believe someone calls you their son or brother! what a disgrace!
FAKE NAME <ILL GIVE U A FAKE NAME@aol.com>
CARSOn - Mon, May 22, 2000 at 16:38:51 (PDT) | #27
Well "Fake Name" your logic shines through in that post. By the way, it is you're (as in you are) not your (as in the possessive form of you). So I can say that your education sucks!Take care now.
Morrissey Sucks
- Mon, May 22, 2000 at 17:46:38 (PDT) | #28
my, how painfully obvious it is that "morrissey sucks" has nothing better to do besides check and recheck this particular page over and over again to see if someone is responding to his idiocy...and so i fan the flame. i know, smack me on the patio.hmmm, he seems more of a loser to me than anyone he attempts to describe. please, mr. sucks, move on and find yourself an "n'sync" page for your musical pleasure.....you hideously irrational psychopath.
devil's advocate
hell on earth - Mon, May 22, 2000 at 18:27:42 (PDT) | #29
yes, manifesto, or whatever name you're hiding behind these days--i am suggesting what you mentioned. those people mean nothing to me.
alarcon <michaela@synge.com>
southern california - Mon, May 22, 2000 at 18:32:35 (PDT) | #30
Thanks devil. I know, I am hard to resist.
Morrissey Sucks
- Tue, May 23, 2000 at 06:57:21 (PDT) | #31
Sad fool.
"Morrissey Sucks" Sucks
- Tue, May 23, 2000 at 11:35:35 (PDT) | #32
Sadder more foolish.
""Morrissey Sucks" Sucks" Sucks
- Tue, May 23, 2000 at 13:53:34 (PDT) | #33
any fan of morrissey's who gets offended by "morrissey sucks" is being a little to sensitive, it's painfully obvious that this person loves morrissey and he/she also knows ,like we all do, that people love to put down morrissey fans, so you see, he/she is doing it on purpose. but then again, i could be completely wrong and this person is a psychopathic loser, just toughen up a bit, please
MozzyQ
- Wed, May 24, 2000 at 07:11:24 (PDT) | #34
MozzyQ-I like your logic. It is flawed, but I like it none-the-less.
Morrissey Sucks
- Wed, May 24, 2000 at 07:46:22 (PDT) | #35
You are sadder and more foolish. We all know that you are a bitter marr fan. Get over it.
"Morrissey Sucks,sucks,sucks" sucks!
Johnny Marr Sucks Too! - Wed, May 24, 2000 at 10:50:43 (PDT) | #36
This topic has become far too silly...and reads like a Monty Python sketch! Sucking brill, fab, and groovy, baby! Suck this, suck that, ooh, so kinky!
J. Razor <%00>
San Francisco - Wed, May 24, 2000 at 12:55:47 (PDT) | #37
but i'm two people!! and i like it that way. i'm harmless, but sometimes i like the duality of it. that and playing point-counterpoint with myself and having people join in is kind of funny.
wouldnt you like to know <ditto>
where i am - Sat, May 27, 2000 at 16:25:17 (PDT) | #38
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