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Comments / Notes
David,
I for one think you are doing a great job. Everyone should take a moment and and say thank
you!!! Keep the info flowing.
Warren is O U T !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Warren
Chespaw - Fri, Aug 20, 1999 at 09:34:16 (PDT) | #1
Warren,I think that he is referring to people like you… STOP! using the home page as a discussion board! If you want to write all this crap go to the discussion board. This space is dedicated to comments about the news headlines. I'm interested in reading what people have to say about a particular headline not about you and your rebuttals to people's comments. Please stop! Oh, please don't respond. I'm not interested in what you have to say….
rob <wide_to_receive@hotmail.com>
- Fri, Aug 20, 1999 at 10:20:40 (PDT) | #2
Hey Rob you Jackass,
What kind of response do you think is appropriate
for this particular message? The message you
left had no relevance to what David is trying to say. Go play policeman somewhere else!!!!
Your not wanted here.....
O U T!!!!!!!
Warren
Chespaw - Fri, Aug 20, 1999 at 10:43:20 (PDT) | #3
well, anyway. arguing on message boards about things that can not be reasonably debated is a waste of all of our time. it took me 30 seconds to read the above exchange, which has not enriched my morrissey-solo experience in any way.
david is clearly dedicated and diligent, and should be commended for his efforts. don't be disrespectful by driving people away from his site.
John in NJ <sickmaniac@aol.com>
Trenton, NJ - Fri, Aug 20, 1999 at 11:24:16 (PDT) | #4
David is quite right. It really sickened me to find out that there were messages posted under assumed identities. This is a terrific site, and these childish games are undermining David's hard work. I agree that the best coarse of action is to IGNORE it.
Lady Me
Here - Fri, Aug 20, 1999 at 11:57:34 (PDT) | #5
Kudos D.T.
Rob I think the absolute irony is lost on Warren. See you on tour ;)
watching with a grin
loose angeles - Fri, Aug 20, 1999 at 14:00:39 (PDT) | #6
I think if people want to be obnoxious they can get their own message board at www.insidetheweb.com and trash it. They can say what ever the heck they like, and instead of using someone else's discussion board for graffiti. This is one of the best kept of sites I've ever seen and I think that David does and excellent job with everything. It's easy to see how much work goes into a site like this (I should know, I have to upkeep three sites myself!)
Charity <brutal_defeat@yahoo.com>
Alberta, Canada - Fri, Aug 20, 1999 at 14:27:03 (PDT) | #7
hmm...I realize I should not have spent time responding to Warren's comments. I agree with David and I will not waste time doing so in the future.
Corey <cwittig@hotmail.com>
- Fri, Aug 20, 1999 at 16:00:03 (PDT) | #8
Thank You David! Couldn't be better.
HJK <Vivamoz@inreach.com>
Northern California - Fri, Aug 20, 1999 at 16:35:09 (PDT) | #9
hmm...I realize I should not have spent time responding to Corey's comments. I agree with David and I will not waste time doing so in the future.
Frank Rizzo Jr.
Brooklyn - Fri, Aug 20, 1999 at 16:38:44 (PDT) | #10
I agree with David, the best way to get rid of all these boring people is to ignore them. It’s not the first time they “infect” our lovely site (remember George O. and all that stuff about how crap Moz is and how great Echo & the Bunnymen is?). Please don’t waste any single second of your life paying them any kind of attention.
Charles Byron <Boy_Afraid@hotmail.com>
Buenos Aires - Argentina - Fri, Aug 20, 1999 at 16:41:57 (PDT) | #11
I DON'T GET IT!!! Why is everyone harping on me? What is it that you think I'm doing that is different from everyone else? Everything I write is about Morrissey and The Smiths. How is that wasting time? I don't think I'm wasting anyones time. It is OTHER people who have nothing about Moz to write, so they attack my comments. Its them everyone should be mad at. NOT ME!!!
Warren
Chespaw - Fri, Aug 20, 1999 at 16:51:57 (PDT) | #12
David, once again . . . it can't be send enough . . . thanks for your efforts. You are a saint for dealing with all of this . . . .
Nick Seriously
- Fri, Aug 20, 1999 at 17:18:21 (PDT) | #13
hehe how funny...anyhow I don't understand why someone would waste there time just to come to a place like this and then say about how they hate Morrissey or the Smiths
Corey <cwittig@hotmail.com>
- Fri, Aug 20, 1999 at 19:05:32 (PDT) | #14
Is it just me, or does Warren seem to get more and more stupid after every post he posts? He can never reply to a post withotu bashing the person.
Luke <PutahFreak@AOL.com>
Arvada, Co - Sat, Aug 21, 1999 at 00:47:32 (PDT) | #15
david kudos, salutations and commiserations...morrissey-solo is not just a site, it's a way of life (sorry, addiction is a terrible thing). chill ... what would we do without david's site? aside to: watching with a grin: how can i see you on tour, you're not coming to oz. (if you are moz be moz, if you aint, quit it....NOW). ciao julie
julie <bauhaus@q-net.net.au>
oz - Sat, Aug 21, 1999 at 06:35:13 (PDT) | #16
I just wanted to say thanks to David for a wonderful site, it is my "lifeline" to the world of Morrissey and it is comforting to realize at times that I'm not the only one who understands the magic.Unfortunately it seems of late that people are posting ruinous, thoughtless and frankly inane comments on this site and it really needs to end. Let's discuss the various nuances of he who is Morrissey, why his work means so much, and for God's sake STOP blasting each other and talking about Steven allegedly being "bald and overweight." I've seen no evidence of this and I highly doubt anyone who posts comments of the like have seen dear Steven recently--so please shut up. If you don't like him, then don't visit Morrissey-solo. Again, thank you David. Morrissey, wherever you are, I hope you're singing now....and will be coming to Ohio on your tour....and visiting me at my house for tea and pasta :-)
Amy Beth <rakedupmistakes@hotmail.com>
Columbus, Ohio - Sat, Aug 21, 1999 at 07:43:58 (PDT) | #17
ECHO AND THE BUNNYMEN ARE PLAYING ON OCT. 25 AT THE MAYAN THEATRE IN LOS ANGELES...GO CHECK THEM OUT AND SEE WHAT IT IS TO SEE A SINGER GROW OLD GRACEFULLY AND WITH THE SAME TALENT THEY STARTED OUT WITH... HA!! HA!! I'M STILL AROUND...
george o.
- Sat, Aug 21, 1999 at 09:49:02 (PDT) | #18
This is a great site and it's constantly improving thanks to David T's fantastic work. Our little society has only started going downhill in the past couple of weeks ... but what goes down must go up. We love Morrissey, and he loves us, so why can't we all just love each other? love, love, love, that's what it's all about. I love you awwwwwwwwwwwl.
mysterious eel
- Sat, Aug 21, 1999 at 14:11:56 (PDT) | #19
Well David brings up many good points and hopefully we will all respect them.
I know personally I have held back on submitting details and stories that I have had because of the ridicule that now seems all too common these days. I am sure I am not the only one either. Seeing people getting hammered over things that others dont believe or pictures that they have sent in has become tiring and actually sad. Hopefully we will not be missing things of interest to the faithful following that visits this site on a regular basis. But at this rate we probably already have. Here's to a brighter future!!
Johnny Marr <JHNMARR@aol.com>
It Takes Strength to be Gentle and Kind - Sat, Aug 21, 1999 at 14:12:17 (PDT) | #20
David is right. I had a situation in the chat room where someone was using my name (Moz cowboy)and started annoying other people with my name. It hurts my feelings and would love an apoligy from who ever did that.And warren, limit your comments on whats on the topic. Its not saying your a bad guy. I can't cause you love Moz...but stay on the topic please. thanx and keep up with keeping morrissey dear to your heart.
The True Moz Cowboy <Mozcowboy@aol.com>
Long Beach, CA - Sat, Aug 21, 1999 at 18:17:49 (PDT) | #21
I love this site and often turn to it for reliabe information and insight. I have been quietly admiring many on this board however I have become unusually annoyed by the particular ineptness of some of the less educated words that are placed here. Warren needs to be taken O-U-T, for good. He is obviously younger than he suggests he is. True Moz fans would focus on the man himself, not themself. In the words of the great Oscar Wilde , "It is only the intellectually lost who ever argue"
Chas Kendrick
Pere Lachaise - Mon, Aug 23, 1999 at 08:45:24 (PDT) | #22
Chas,
Because you are "arguing" the fact that I should
be O U T shows us all that you are "intellectually
lost" and therefore cannot be taken seriously. You also mention that I am very young and should be O U T
due to my age? Maybe we should ban others based on their height and what country they are from??? And remember this, any fool can quote Oscar Wilde, that doesn't make you smart. Warren is OUT!!!!
Warren
Chespaw - Mon, Aug 23, 1999 at 13:39:19 (PDT) | #23
How did Echo and the Bunnymen get involved into this discussion? And why do they call their singer, and I use that term loosely, "Big Mac?" The only "Big Mac" that I would even consider seeing is the one that plays for St. Louis Cardinals. Morrissey is one of the most brilliant singers ever to take the stage, and Ian Mac is not on that list.-Sorry about not sticking to the topic guys, but I just had to respond to such blasphemous statement.
VicVega <VicVega@depechemode.com>
- Mon, Aug 23, 1999 at 14:12:06 (PDT) | #24
I never understood why people take i-net messages so seriously. Does it even matter what someone says if they're not even facing you? How can anyone get worked up over something so phoney? I visit this site for the news--for that purpose it is very useful. I contribute to the discussions every once in awhile because I am generous and thoughtful, but the message boards here are 99% a waste of time because most people are selfish and lack good communication skills. Julie, Watching w/ a Grin is *not* Morrissey because he would never send kudos to D.T. That's not supposed to be an insult, it's just the truth. But I'll admit he/she/it does a good immitation!
who I am, how I am
- Mon, Aug 23, 1999 at 21:24:44 (PDT) | #25
Amy Beth made a good point earlier. She said, "Let's discuss the various nuances of he who is Morrissey..." and not all the other inane comments that end up on the message board.With that in mind, I would have to say that I love Morrissey's nuances. He has some of the best nuances in the entertainment industry (maybe the world). One time (at band camp), I saw a picture of Morrissey's nuances that a friend obtained on the black market. It was pretty amazing. Come on, Amy Beth, Lighten up. Most of what is on this site is news (at best) and gossip. But, it seems that people enjoy it that way (check out the site's hit counter). Look at how many people posted messages regarding the name of the tour. Remember the question posted not too long ago, "What 3 songs would you have the Smiths play at their reunion?" There were scores of responses. Hey, if you want a better discussion, stop griping about how inane the comments are, and pose an "intelligent" question. I'm sure it will be something like "In 'Disappointed', when Morrissey wrote 'truly, truly, truly', did he mean truly or really?" Can you imagine how ridiculous this site would be if every topic was like that? Besides, who has the time? Some of us have jobs. If you need something more fulfilling...try real human interaction. It's wonderful.
Frank Rizzo, Jr
Brooklyn - Mon, Aug 23, 1999 at 22:12:46 (PDT) | #26
I don't think anyone should waste their time weeding out fake messages. How do we know this person isn't at a friend's house using their computer? It's much easier for someone to say, "hey, that's not me" and it goes away. It's not like any of us are public figures who would be damaged by this.Communication skills or not, people can't help but be selfish. If they don't have any opinions of their own to cling to, I would be afraid of them. Either they are lying, or they have absolutely no self esteem. There is that part of them that says, "I'm a person, too" that rears it's ugly head. People have needs and they can't go around satiating other people's their entire lives without some sort of void. I've seen it in action and I've seen the results. It's not very pretty. Nobody wants what ideas they've been raised with suddenly ripped away. Do you know what that's like for someone to sit you down and tell you everything you thought is wrong? For some people, it is liberating because they already knew that this is "the truth" that was kept for them for so long and were too afraid to think, while many others go zany. Unfortunatly, there are many people who mistake something said in general terms as being a direct attack on themselves. Some people are kooks and you can't really stop them.
Suzanne <suzsch@gte.net>
- Mon, Aug 23, 1999 at 22:44:01 (PDT) | #27
hi who i am what i amthank you for relating the goss about "watching with a grin"...some other kind person had already informed me that "wwag" couldn't be moz. just one thing...why wouldn't moz send "kudos" to dt? (twas annoyed at wwag, deep down knew it/she/he wasn't moz, just hate role-playing on-line....what's wrong with the truth.... i'm 18 blonde and gorgeous and i don't mind admitting it (kidding)). ciao julie
julie <bauhaus@q-net.net.au>
oz - Tue, Aug 24, 1999 at 06:12:53 (PDT) | #28
and of course i meant "who i am how i am"... drat hate not being able to correct typos....ciao julie
julie <bauhaus@q-net.net.au>
oz - Tue, Aug 24, 1999 at 06:14:39 (PDT) | #29
I like the topic of nuances, great idea Frank Jr. I only beg to ask for further commentary on what you mean by, "amazing"? And my dear Warren, I have more lovely words for you, "the well-bred contradict other people. The wise contradict themselves."
Chas Kendrick
Pere Lachaise - Tue, Aug 24, 1999 at 06:47:07 (PDT) | #30
Chas,
Poor Poor Chas. It has become apparent that you
are an English Major? (Most likely from a second rate University, But still an English Major.) I'm sure deep down you are a good kind person, you just have trouble expressing yourself so you turn to the authors of the past to do your talking/thinking for you? Some advice for you, try spending your Saturday nights away from the library. One last thing to ponder...Are you absolutely positive you turned your stove off last night??? Have a great day!
Sue Kisel
Gainesville - Tue, Aug 24, 1999 at 08:01:43 (PDT) | #31
Wait... Was that "The non fake Suzanne" or "the fake Suzanne"? Now, I'm confused ha ha HA!
rob <wide_to_receive@hotmail.com>
- Tue, Aug 24, 1999 at 09:45:52 (PDT) | #32
Someone seems a bit acrimonious after attending the student orientation last night at Chespaw High. We were not intentionally trying to make you feel bad about missing out on the happiness of the summer student exchange program. I am sure that it was a difficult summer having to work instead of touring the exquisite countryside and learning more than you could imagine about the homeland of the one and only! All I can offer you are apologies that you can not attend the October trip to see him in Germany at Leipzig Haus Auensee - I know it is tough being in high school but this too shall pass my friend. "Grow up, be a man, and close your mealy-mouth!"
Delia
- Tue, Aug 24, 1999 at 10:29:53 (PDT) | #33
Delia,
Will you just leave me the hell alone? For the last time "No" I will not go to homecoming with you or your stupid friends!! Delia I'm glad that you and the rest of the kids in Band Class got to go to Europe this summer but I probably had more fun in my REAL band and going to parties than you band geeks did!! Stop calling my house because your starting to piss my mom and Grandmother off ok!
Warren
Annoyed in Chespaw - Tue, Aug 24, 1999 at 10:48:48 (PDT) | #34
Am I off here by saying this- I thought this board was for actually talking about Morrissey or some other related topic. Not using poor David's Site as a place for personal attacks. I, for one, believe that no matter if you are in Highschool, college, or out in the work force you can still conduct yourself in an adult manner - and if you can not you should take yourself to the YM site!
FYI for you fans out there who are not already aware : Morrissey will be at Coachella (Empire Polo Field) on 10/9 and 10/10.
For george o - Echo and the Bunnymen will be there too!
And for Delia and Warren - "With the world's fate resting on your shoulders
You're gonna need someone on your side"
Joyce Rourke
Indio, CA - Tue, Aug 24, 1999 at 11:19:00 (PDT) | #35
"You can't do it by yourself any longer your
gonna need someone on your side, someone kindly told me that you wasted 8 of 9 lives......."
Yeah I'm sorry its a long story...Delia found
out from Troy that I freguent this site so she is trying to bug me but I wont let her....... Young girls in love, what can you do??? OUT!!!!!!!!!!
Warren
Chespaw - Tue, Aug 24, 1999 at 12:48:15 (PDT) | #36
Warren - Perhaps you should pass this on to Delia
"and I know it's over-still I cling
I dont know where else I can go ,I Know It's Over"
And tell her that there is nothing for the two of you - but this site is for us to express our love for Morrissey not bicker over petty infatuations.
Joyce Rourke
Indio, CA - Tue, Aug 24, 1999 at 13:13:23 (PDT) | #37
Warren you are not even old enough to go the senior homecoming! And just for all of your Morrissey friends, I did not want to go with you, anyway! I hope you have enjoyed your anonymity on this site because school starts tomorrow and you are in for an awakening!
Delia
- Tue, Aug 24, 1999 at 13:40:51 (PDT) | #38
Delia - Look out don't put people down because they are "16, clumsy and shy". Because soon you may be singing "that's the story of my life."
Joyce Rourke
Indio, CA - Tue, Aug 24, 1999 at 14:35:31 (PDT) | #39
9-1-99, 9-1-99, 9-1-99!!!!!!!
Warren
Chespaw - Tue, Aug 24, 1999 at 14:52:27 (PDT) | #40
I'm incredibly fake, Rob. I have always been.
Polyester Suzanne
"Ricki Williams goes bust tour '99" - Tue, Aug 24, 1999 at 16:21:04 (PDT) | #41
Phoney? Does this mean I shouldn't go?(hah! I was about to type that sentence when the UPS guy shows up with my ticket....creepy) Yes, and it is easy to get worked up over what people say on the internet. And there is something about transcending electrons when in real life it seems incredibly daunting. Kind of like how people get worked up over Morrissey's words when they have never met him. Are his words "phoney" as well? The medium is different but the concept remains the same. And just like being a rich and famous pop star, nobody knew you beforehand and you are allowed to fill up the space with whatever comes to your mind. And just like being a pop star, you can hide things from the public that you just don't want them knowing about. Nobody is required to come here and state what they really feel. Why? Because nobody in this setting is actually expected to be their words....unless they chat to someone and plan to meet them, then that is totally different. Nobody is required to give their entire life story. It might be incredibly boring. People lie everyday and yet you have the benefit of body language to tell if they are actually being shy and uncomfortable about the thought of being rejected. Some people are shy about expressing the real side of what they are unless they are in incredibly private situations. This board is incredibly public and it affects what you say. You don't have that here, so don't punish people on that level.
Polyester Suzanne
- Tue, Aug 24, 1999 at 16:35:26 (PDT) | #42
Poly Suzy,
I understood what you were trying to communicate until I read the last sentence. What are you talking about there? We don't have WHAT here? What level? Please elaborate. Thanks.
Frank Rizzo, Jr.
Brooklyn - Tue, Aug 24, 1999 at 21:13:15 (PDT) | #43
I'm sorry. You will have to exsqueeze me. That sentence was not supposed to be there. I'm sort of not all residing on one planet these days. I think it was supposed to follow another thought before I squeezed in all that extraneous crap called after thoughts at the end. That lonely sentence, orphaned, was forgotten and left in the snow.
Polyester Suzanne
fish heads fish heads roly poly fish heads eat them up, yum! - Tue, Aug 24, 1999 at 21:34:51 (PDT) | #44
Warren - Is Sept 1, 1999 when you are finally planning on going out with a girl!
And my name is as real as yours I would imagine.
How are things in Chespaw?
"And the slight lizard show his jewelled head"
Joyce Rourke
Indio, CA - Wed, Aug 25, 1999 at 07:43:27 (PDT) | #45
I must apologize to Mr. Rizzo for daring to assume that people who are intelligent enough to recognize the merits of Morrissey could also possibly be overall wonderful people, with open minds and a desire to discuss things seriously....how dare I assume this? This page in particular is testament to the fact that there are perhaps only a scant few individuals who are more than half a person.By the by, human contact can only be fulfilling for so long. As a Morrissey "fan", don't you know this? For your personal records, you may note that I am happily married, have several friends (though only 2 are Moz fans) and have an overwhelmingly full-time job. My preference however is to venture into the desolation that can only be provided by solitude and Morrissey's voice. In my naivety, I tend to assume that other Morrissey fans are unique and clever as well. Forgive me. Do continue your riveting conversation, I so enjoy your intellectually challenging thoughts and perceptions! I now exit this page once and for all....you may post your scathing commentary now.
Amy Beth <rakedupmistakes@hotmail.com>
Columbus, Ohio - Wed, Aug 25, 1999 at 11:52:24 (PDT) | #46
Blah Blah Blah Blah Blan Amy Beth
"give it a rest won't you" why do you
come on the site and pretend that you are
so smart. Don't be so uptight, try to
relax and don't take yourself so seriously!
Warren is ouTTTTTT!!!!!!
Warren
Chespaw - Wed, Aug 25, 1999 at 12:19:20 (PDT) | #47
Frank Rizzo.listen. amy beth posts here often. you really need to just leave her out of this. if you're so for gossips, go watch the grind on mtv. i'm sure you'd have more encounters, interactions, with people like yourself.
please get a life. in my opinion, you're the one who needs human interaction. if you want to discuss bull@#!!! totally unrelated to morrissey in any way, please visit a website more geared to your personal and "special" needs.........thank you.
chris burke
- Wed, Aug 25, 1999 at 13:18:43 (PDT) | #48
Chris Burke: If you would pay attention, SHE is the one whining about the "inane" discussion, not me. You can quit kissing Amy Beth's arse. She said she's married, so give it up.Amy Beth: While you provided me with a wealth of meaningless information, you still did not resolve what you see as a problem on the message board. Are you going to come up with an "intelligent" topic (e.g. nuances)? If not, stop your whining and enjoy the site. p.s. I'm sorry your so depressed.
Frank Rizzo, Jr
Brooklyn - Wed, Aug 25, 1999 at 14:18:07 (PDT) | #49
I don't mean to sound like a non-morrissey fan by not knowing about this - but can anyone shed any light on the deaths that Morrissey was distraught over in 1995. I have heard of what a tough year that was for him and I was just curious.....
Nancy Friday
Key West, Florida - Wed, Aug 25, 1999 at 14:21:41 (PDT) | #50
TESTING is anyone still there?
anyone
- Wed, Aug 25, 1999 at 14:41:54 (PDT) | #51
Hey Burke,
She is already married so get your lips
off her butt OK!! She is not interested
in you so stay on topic. Amy, you sound
like a very successful broad keep your nose
to the grind. Rizzo you are definitely the man!!
THIS IS OUR NEW SINGLE.................ASSSKKK!
WARREN
CHESPAW - Wed, Aug 25, 1999 at 14:43:06 (PDT) | #52
uh oh,looks like mr. rizzo has risen from the scums of brooklyn once again!:)
onafriday
- Wed, Aug 25, 1999 at 15:16:20 (PDT) | #53
p.s. your intellect misspelled "you're"
onafriday
- Wed, Aug 25, 1999 at 15:17:41 (PDT) | #54
Well. I for one plead guilty for posting under different names, although never in support of a post I made under a different name. I think. Heh! And never, NEVER do I use anyone else's. Hell, names posted depend on mood, and under which name I happened to be using while playing Quake that day. Still...
David, this is a fine site, and props to you for creating a forum so many people find interesting. As far as abusing anonymity, the only abuse I can imagine is posting under another's "handle". This is wrong.
Everyone is anomonous here. This is part of the attraction. And considering the limited amount of debatable material available for discussion, I think it's only natural that people will tend to attack each other instead of addressing the main topic as would probably be prefered by the host (bless 'em). Not to say that the material provided is inadequate, it is not.
Hagfish
- Wed, Aug 25, 1999 at 16:54:54 (PDT) | #55
Amy Beth and chris burke -I love you both! :) Guess what? I met Morrissey today!!! You'll never believe me, but I'm thoroughly convinced that it was him. I'll mail you the full details very soon...
Valentine Dussaut
384 Kings Road - Wed, Aug 25, 1999 at 16:56:36 (PDT) | #56
hey julie, maybe WWAG really was Moz after all. In light of the recent news by "the man" himself maybe he thinks this page is GREAT! And does Moz actually do chat? Scary thought!
alf wank
- Wed, Aug 25, 1999 at 17:46:36 (PDT) | #57
Hagfish - You are right on! That is the only statement I have fully agreed with on this site so far!
Joyce Rourke
Indio, CA - Thu, Aug 26, 1999 at 08:06:41 (PDT) | #58
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