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Comments / Notes
MOZ FOREVER!
Bjørn Ove <bokjenn@online.no>
Norway - Sun, Jul 18, 1999 at 11:39:44 (PDT)
Well, I hope a new album comes...I have a good feeling about it and think it will do well.
Corey <cwittig@hotmail.com>
- Sun, Jul 18, 1999 at 13:21:15 (PDT)
I dare the writters for a census!!!!!!!
They dont have enough fingers.
xavier
orange county cali - Sun, Jul 18, 1999 at 15:23:57 (PDT)
Comments like that always piss me off. Just because he doesn't sell a million albums doesn't mean his music isn't good, it just means people have bad taste. Hell, just look at the spice girls.
The Girl Racer <thegirlracer59@hotmail.com>
Chicago - Sun, Jul 18, 1999 at 15:37:50 (PDT)
Um, guys, chill. "Career trajectory" is purely an economic concept. Whatever we think of his albums, you can't deny that his sales have seriously dropped off since V&I. Has little to do with album quality.
NB
- Sun, Jul 18, 1999 at 18:52:51 (PDT)
Moz will never be treated with dignity However this doesn't change the fact that America's media will abuse use his good name every chance they get. Never does our dear boy hear that gentle tone of kindness he once brought to our attention.
xoom <xoom@gateway.net>
colorado - Sun, Jul 18, 1999 at 19:30:40 (PDT)
Everyone acts like they are shocked.
It is indeed an Economic Concept. Record companies have no other measuring stick. Some do, but that usually involves helping out friends and the release is usually not expected to sell millions.
Dawn Amici
laundromat - Sun, Jul 18, 1999 at 19:55:05 (PDT)
" . ..downward career trajectory" seem like a good way to describe Morrissey's career, but IF there is a new album in the making, I hope he can change this view.
johnjuan
riverside, ca - Sun, Jul 18, 1999 at 22:47:18 (PDT)
Nothing would please me more than a new Morrissey album--and something quality that does well as a slap in the face to all those dumbass record execs. Plus it would be nice to have some new Moz fans--have him back in the spotlight and get some positive media coverage...not that the media knows anything, but again, as a slap in the face. I want everyone to love him as much as I do... but then would it still be so special?
Annie
California - Mon, Jul 19, 1999 at 01:29:57 (PDT)
They were certainly right about our loyalty, an old joke in the NME was that Moz fans would buy anything by him and it's true, I'll never get rid of any of it, I'll even keep Southpaw cause even the really bad stuff have vague moments of goodness. As for new Moz fans, well we gotta keep it rolling - spread the word! I know 14 year old Moz fans, I send out tapes to my "friends" on the internet to "convert" them and usually it works.. a few listens later and bingo! they're hooked (o:
John <Madonissey@aol.com>
Glasgow, Scotland - Mon, Jul 19, 1999 at 03:36:30 (PDT)
This is typical of the mainstream press! They have never viewed Moz or The Smiths as nothing but a freak "New Wave" Cult fad. Which is entirely not true & we all know that. It's funny the more people I talk to about Morrissey, the more people admit to me they either really do love him or have never heard his music. As soon as they listen the instantly fall in love! It is the world media that controls the worlds taste but i will not be controlled. charlie
p.s.kelli, i wish you a very unhappy birthday, because your evil!!!!!!!
VIVAMOZ <ceciii@rocketmail.com>
- Mon, Jul 19, 1999 at 09:42:11 (PDT)
Of course Morrissey's career is on a downward spiral! A few new fans yeah but not many. But to us true Moz fans do we care? I don't.
I played "We'll let you know" today to this girl in my car and she just said you have to turn this off please......I try and convert too but it's not an easy job - not with my friends anyway.
Scott <Scott70070@aol.com>
England - Mon, Jul 19, 1999 at 11:39:59 (PDT)
Hmm..I've never had people tell me bad things about Morrissey who I've given tapes or anything. They always really like him. What kind of music does this girl like scott?
And Vivamoz, I agree 100% with you. Morrissey has also said in an interview that he has been offered many times to be on tv shows and do adds and things, but it is not who he is. That is so wonderful to hear. He stayed true to himself and even if not everyone knows him, we that do love him very much.
Corey <cwittig@hotmail.com>
- Mon, Jul 19, 1999 at 12:23:26 (PDT)
"downward".....hmmmmm. Yes Downward indeed! At 40....well er um...."sometimes the view at the bottom is quite the best view". Write that down... ;)
watching with a grin
loose angeles - Mon, Jul 19, 1999 at 16:57:58 (PDT)
I'm obviously concerned. Two specific comments trouble me the most.
First, that he has "lost his record deal."
Secondly:
"MORRISSEY Legendary Smiths mope had a home at Mercury despite his downward career trajectory. Wherever he lands, a small, fanatic fan base will follow."
This seems to suggest to me that it is very doubtfull if Morrissey will ever get another record deal, let alone produce another album.
Does anyone no anything more about this?
Dell
Salt Lake City, Utah - Mon, Jul 19, 1999 at 20:10:33 (PDT)
I don't think Morrissey coming out with a new album is totally irrational. I mean, the guy is seen as one of the greatest British (possibly worldly) musicians of all time. I don't think with that kind of reputation, even in today's blind society, any record company could not let them produce new material, it just wouldn't make sense, even if it wouldn't make them the most money. Morrissey is the greatest though, at least some people in this world have taste!
*Chris*
Chris <coburp5@hotmail.com>
Yuma, AZ - Mon, Jul 19, 1999 at 20:55:28 (PDT)
Like I said before I truly believe Morrissey's next album is going to shock alot of people. Not that I mean his going to sound mainstream which by the way is obvious that he doesn't sell millions of albums. Even if he was to be played on mtv or alot of radio stations he still wouldn't sell millions because he doesn't sound like or is he stealing someone else's image. Come on Korn/limp whatever not much difference there. backstreet boys/n'sync again not much difference. brandy/ monica. britney spears/ debbie gibson. I could go on and on. People these days just love to hear repetition and I have know idea why. I always thought that one of the reasons for music
was to express individuality when infact it seems like every one has the same lifestyles or what??
boy racer
Midland, pa - Mon, Jul 19, 1999 at 22:19:05 (PDT)
I have to agree that if moz does come out with a new album, that it will indeed be a bigger success than malajusted and even my early burglar years. I think he should try to bring back some catching dance tones instead of dark morbib songs. . . maybe even some rock-a-billy into that mix. now that would be a album to worth buying
Moz Cowboy <Mozcowboy@aol.com>
Asteroid B-612 - Mon, Jul 19, 1999 at 22:20:56 (PDT)
Corey - She likes Radiohead, Betaband and she even has a Belle & Sebastian album album so I'm a bit surprised she was so anti me playing Morrissey. She is a bit down at the moment though with blokes etc but still she couldn't stand listening to it. Most of my friends either like mainstream stuff or dance so it makes it even more difficult to convert the unconvertable. A friend of mine does like him but he says he can't help distancing himself from him after I told him he probably wasn't totally straight.
Scott <Scott70070@aol.com>
England - Tue, Jul 20, 1999 at 11:30:52 (PDT)
I think people like repetative music(Monica, Brandy, Britney,etc) because they just don't know any better. They are afraid to listen to anything that isn't on MTV or on their local radio station for fear that people might think they are weird. People need to go out and try different things but they really don't even know where to begin. I think that's kind of sad.
The Girl Racer <thegirlracer59@hotmail.com>
Chicago - Tue, Jul 20, 1999 at 13:22:27 (PDT)
Watching with a grin is Morrissey.
RockinKid
- Tue, Jul 20, 1999 at 16:02:18 (PDT)
"View at the bottom" eh? Too bad he is missing many other views.
And he talks about viewing and not doing. Reminds me of a certain someone who long ago broke my arms into doing what I'm doing and he won't see me doing my thing because he refuses to.
I'm lonely and sort of nervous and not even sure if I'm doing the right thing, but it's time that I grew up.
yes, you've guessed it...
in front of the video camera - Tue, Jul 20, 1999 at 16:08:01 (PDT)
Everyone who incessantly worries about Morrissey's next album coming out should calm down. If he has to, he'll probably self-release it if need be.
I agree that "career trajectory" is an economics term, but, really, blessed few are the artistes who remain relevant (as in continued sales and media exposure) into their 40s and beyond. Even people like Sir Paul will only move about 500,000 units--largely on name and reputation alone. Sure, Morrissey is near and dear to all of us, but to the cultural whole, he captured the attention of a certain generation for a very brief span of time that marked any social relevance ('83-'87). We just have to be satisfied as a minority and a dark little microcosm in the musical universe.
Cheers,
Jamie
Jamie <grandmastakoo@usa.net>
- Tue, Jul 20, 1999 at 16:38:05 (PDT)
Good call Jaime...however I think we all know that. Not that small though. Maybe when compaired to some current "mainstream" bands....but also those bands are fads and Morrissey has been our sure thing for nearly 2 decades. To even stay around that long in his business is quite an accomplishment and not too many bands(if any) have his following.
Corey <cwittig@hotmail.com>
- Tue, Jul 20, 1999 at 17:28:29 (PDT)
Well, I have to admit I long for the return of Moz to the success he had with "More you Ignore.." and the Your Arsenal singles. I think he still has a plenty of singles left in him. But, honestly, has he had a song that would set the Top 40 on fire lately. "Alma Matters" was pretty lackluster. "Satan rejected.." and 'Roy's Keen" were good, but can you honestly picture them on Mainstream radio. "Boxers"? "Boy Racer"? Maybe.
Still, if I had to choose between his current 'downward career trajectory' and Moz doing some type of lame Aerosmith "Armageddon"-style ballad or some mindnumbing Ricky Martin dance number, well, I'd have to go with the "downward career" thing, I think.
And lastly, (as I've already rambled enough) haven't they said Moz was washed up before? After the Smiths split? the Kill Uncle years? and he'a always fought back.
bedsitter <bedsitter@excite.com>
- Tue, Jul 20, 1999 at 20:11:47 (PDT)
judging by mozza's lyrics he seems obsessed with
revenge. let's hope he actually takes revenge on
these record company androids who like cold metallic fabricated sounds and produces a record
that has the catchy popness of alot of his material on bona drag and vauxhall and i. sadly
the greatest revenge of knocking the lameness out
of many people's heads to spit on their poor excuse of taste in music will never come about.
if only he was a pretty 20 year old sex god, then he would get the fame he deserved. but don't worry
moz fans- who is the world going to remember and
not regret loving, morrissey or backstreet boys?
luke hart <hartl@yes.com.au>
australia - Wed, Jul 21, 1999 at 03:56:31 (PDT)
"downward".....hmmmmm. Yes Downward indeed! At 40....well er um...."sometimes the view at the bottom is quite the best view". (ONLY “SOMETIMES”? MOST LIKELY “NEVER”. THE ILL-FATED CHAP HIMSELF WOULD CERTAINLY NOT VOUCH FOR THE CONTRIVED DICTUM IN HIS LATTER DAYS BEFORE TENANTING PERE LACHAISE.) Write that down... ;) (I MIGHT…IF YOU COME UP WITH YOUR VERY OWN OUTRAGEOUSLY ORIGINAL BYWORD. AND THEN, ONLY IF YOU MIND YOUR PUNCTUATION AND CAPITALIZATION.)
watching with a grin FROM SOME PITCH DARK GUTTER?
loose angeles - Mon, Jul 19, 1999 at 16:57:58 (PDT)
CAREERING (SOUTHWARD) FROM AN OVERDOSE OF FATUOUS GRINNING
LOST ANGELOOSE - Wed, Jul 21, 1999 at 23:09:19 (PDT)
It's so nice of you to worry about Moz's record sales and at the same time it's so useless. Remember what Morrissey himself taught us in the early 80's about the media business? Remember "Paint A Vulgar Picture"? And remember Paul Weller saying: "Most of the best records ever never made it to the charts." So just do your best and don't worry. As soon as Morrissey's next record is out, all of the things you said, so meaningful, will be all so suddenly meaningless ...
Mat <Mathias_Loesel@kirchgruppe.de>
- Thu, Jul 22, 1999 at 00:36:06 (PDT)
I want to knowhow could it be so hard for some one to fall in love with The Smiths or Morrissey?? Like I said before it's almost been 3 yrs. since i've started listening to the Smiths and Moz. Before that I was listening to Heavy Metal not to say I was completely wasting my time because I listened to some good bands Metallica being the best one. Every few months and listen to a couple of songs.
It was at the end of my junior yr in highschool when one of my friends was talking to someone in one of his classes and he said they were just talking about music and the one kid said "yeah I used to listen to heavy metal now I listen to stuff like The Smiths Morrissey and The Cure. Now my friend and I had never heard of such names. A couple of days later we happen to be at a music store and my friend deciced to pick up a cd. The cd was called "Your Arsenal" by Morrisssey. We played the cd in my car and I was totally blown away I was so speachless it's just all kinds of feeling had hit me all at once. I was in love. Next day in school I saw the kid my friend was talking to and i told him how I felt and he simply said back to me "if you like Morrissey you'll love The Smiths". right after school I went straight to the mall and picked up the album "the Queen is Dead". I'm telling you Ihad those same felling hit me again except they were so much stronger. Morrissey opened up a whole different world to me that I never new existed. Sadly to say my friend never got into them. I think he listens to stuff like Sublime. I think it's because they sing about getting high all the time and that's what he is into.
boy racer
Midland, pa - Sat, Jul 24, 1999 at 00:14:47 (PDT)
so,in my bedroom in thoses ugly new houses
I dance my legs down to the knees
but me and my 'true love'
will never meet again
Cal <paintavulgarpicture@yahoo.com>
- Sat, Jul 24, 1999 at 18:45:05 (PDT) | #30
Does anyone really want the average consumer listening to Morrissey records? It is true the generation that Morrissey initially appealed to is (for the most part) aging, that is to say those who were in their teens in the eighties to early nineties. The younger generation has new heroes, some good (Radiohead, etc.) some bad (the list is too long.) This is the nature of pop music. Morrissey's work has been consistently good, and he is being given more and more credit for his influence on pop music. This is what matters most. Let the kids have their heroes, I'll keep mine sacred.
William
- Sun, Jul 25, 1999 at 19:55:02 (PDT) | #31
i remember having some people in the car when "november spawned a monster" came on (my tape). they literally ran screaming from the car thinking me to be insane (and were deeply embarassed by the whole song - imagine singing about intellectually/physically handicapped people, the idea!!).
i've had a hard time convincing people to even listen to smiths/moz music for most of my history of fandom (an incredibly long time - i'm not going to mention years, it runs into three digits by now i'm sure).
at the risk of sounding sentimental, what i like about coming "here" is that i know i'm not alone. so yes susan there is a santa claus and no not everyone is readily open to smiths' music. (tragic but true).
oh, and does anyone else think "watching with a grin" is adding some pretty weird posts to these pages?
ciao julie
julie <bauhaus@q-net.net.au>
oz - Sat, Jul 31, 1999 at 06:16:33 (PDT) | #32
his career path is definetly downward. sales are down together with the quality of his material. he fails to break new audiences and his older fans are perhaps moving on or tiring somewhat.
he really needs a fifty minute album with 12 kick ass songs to get back on top, and i can't wait.
gernick
- Sat, Jul 31, 1999 at 07:27:56 (PDT) | #33
and of course i meant yes, virginia, there is a santa claus. (susan, who's susan?)
julie <bauhaus@q-net.net.au>
oz - Tue, Aug 03, 1999 at 06:29:49 (PDT) | #34
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