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Smiths Is Dead, thank god for MORRISSEY.
RockinKid
- Wed, May 12, 1999 at 14:05:50 (PDT)
Why thank god for Morrissey? Although he has come out with great albums(some better than Smiths albums), you never know how good or big the smiths would have gone if they had stayed together.
Acquiesce
- Wed, May 12, 1999 at 18:17:29 (PDT)
Morrissey's solo work is NOTHING in comparison to his work in The Smiths...Moz is in desperate need of a good songwriting partner. Stephen Street was a
good choice about 11 years ago...he's been the last REAL good one.
george
- Wed, May 12, 1999 at 19:25:06 (PDT)
Marr said it. Stop the rumours! There WILL NEVER BE a Smiths reunion. The Smiths are dead. Marr has his thing, Moz has his, Mike and Andy are with Aziz....GET ON WITH YOUR LIVES!!!
Kowalski
- Wed, May 12, 1999 at 23:24:08 (PDT)
When did Robbie Buck interview him? Was it on the Super Request?
Marwood
- Thu, May 13, 1999 at 04:36:19 (PDT)
I think George is right. As much as Morrissey's solo projects are better than 90% of today's crap on the radio I think it pales in comparison with what the Smiths did in the 80's. I am 30 and most of today's Moz fans are under 25, so it makes sense most haven't even heard of some of the true sounds...The Smiths. Also, Stephen Street was his best Post Smiths collaboration. I wonder what happened that they they didn't continue? After all early Morrissey collaborated with Smiths minus Marr, that was truely excellent(Sister I'm a Poet, Last of..Playboys...Michaels Bones...
I say leave Marr out and start The Smiths without him then!!!!!!!!!!!
Adrian <akalove@earthlink.net>
- Thu, May 13, 1999 at 09:39:21 (PDT)
Just listened to "Twisted Tenderness": Johnny should try a new (or better: an old) singer and Morrissey should try to add a few elements of recent music to his sound. If they work together fine, but meanwhile i do not think that this is a good idea. Apart from their private problems; listen to their recent releases: they don't have any musical basis anymore.
Stefan Krix <stefan.krix@cityweb.de>
- Thu, May 13, 1999 at 11:58:02 (PDT)
It's not so much a Smiths reunion I'd like to see, as it is a spirited collaboration between Marr and Morrissey. Of course they won't be able to recapture the "Smiths Sound," but both of them have stated in the past that they were eachother's best musical partners. I'd really love to see if ANY kind of magic could be generated by the two of them, together, once more.
Never say never, Johnny.
Lifeguard Sleeping
- Thu, May 13, 1999 at 14:41:58 (PDT)
just to comment on the SMITHS reunion w/o marr-
there could be none the smiths were moz and marr
all those that truly respect the greatest of the smiths join me in praying for just one reunion show before the world ends
sara
los angeles - Thu, May 13, 1999 at 23:35:55 (PDT)
To quote Morrissey himself when asked about his thoughts on the recent Echo and the Bunneymen collaboration - "Have you EVER heard of a reunion that has actually worked?" They both have too much to lose, if they recorded new stuff it could never equal the past and there would be a severe danger of sullying the memory of brilliance, and if they just toured with a reunion set of concerts using all the old hits they would be accused of doing it for the money and ripping people off a la the Happy Mondays, or (even worse) the Sex Pistols.
Mike Rice <m.j.rice@lboro.ac.uk>
UK - Fri, May 14, 1999 at 04:59:26 (PDT)
Well, I think our Moz might be a little bit envious that his co-horts don't want to reunite with him. Have you heard the new Echo release? It's fricking AMAZING! Their comeback release("Evergreen") was truly a piece of art. Big Mac should be very proud of himself. The reunited Echo releases crap on anything Moz has put out in the last 6 years!! I hope Joh Cale can insert some new blood into Moz. Moz needs to get rid of his songwriting partners and make up with Stephen Street!
george o.
- Fri, May 14, 1999 at 12:41:48 (PDT)
again our george o. telling us what great the smiths were, what a genious mr. marr is and what a stupid moz has become.
you have said that you don't like moz stuff since your arsenal at least four times. Why do you keep checking this site so often, then?
and you've said boz is a rockabilly fool. Well, that's stupid. Boz isn't rockabilly, he plays rockabilly at his own gigs, but moz music is no rockabilly. He's just a good player and a telented songwriter. If you don't like him, and if you hate those "news" moz fans trying to look like himself, perhaps it's because you're just a nostalgic fan who don't like "his" moz to change and evolve.
and i'm not saying he's better than with the smiths, but if you don't like him, just stop listen.
he doesn't owe you anything...
and please, stop comparing moz with echo. It's no sense and useless, even though "you play guitar", and you know "what a rockabilly tune is"
not george o.
- Sat, May 15, 1999 at 10:08:28 (PDT)
“What Are You Going To Do With Your Life AMAZING? Where are all those marvellous guitar sounds that used to be there? Who does he think he is singing lines like “Get in the car, we’re taking a ride, we’re looking for stars, we’re looking for satellites”, Frank Sinatra? It seems more like an Ian “Bigmouth” McCullloch solo album than an Echo one. Or even worse, since Les Pattinson left them, it seems an Electrafixion come back!
And you must be deaf to think that Evergreen or the last LP are better than Vauxhall And I!!!
Talking about the Stephen Street thing, even when Viva Hate was a good record, in my opinion Your Arsenal and Vauxhall and I are infinitely better!! And they were co-written by the “neo-rockabilly”. Sorry George...
Please, stop posting the same thing again and again!!! Leave us in peace and start you own site dedicated to Street, Echo, Marr, etc. You can also create a section called “I don’t like Moz anymore”.
Charles Byron <Boy_Afraid@hotmail.com>
Buenos Aires - Argentina - Sat, May 15, 1999 at 10:37:23 (PDT)
As heartbreaking as it is to hear Marr say that, it is true. The Smiths will never be again. Marr and Moz have moved on and The Smiths are a thing of the past. So stop wishing and just enjoy what they're doing now even though it is and never will be as good as their work during their time in The Smiths.
rose <charmer86@hotmail.com>
San Diego - Sat, May 15, 1999 at 16:26:20 (PDT)
I SAY : FORGET MOZ AND MARR, THOSE DEPRESSING TWITS. WE SHOULD RALLY BEHIND TRUE MUSICAL GENIUS, BOZ BOORER!!!
Manuel Lerma <EamonsPapa@aol.com>
Los Angeles - Sat, May 15, 1999 at 23:58:22 (PDT)
Boz is great, and alain is even more great, i agree. But the only geniuos here is MOz, and Marr was also a genious. But why always comparing moz with the old smiths and not doing so with marr releases? Should we admire marr for something new, or only for what he did in the past?
juan
- Sun, May 16, 1999 at 06:49:46 (PDT)
Boz! Boz! Boz!
Tito
- Sun, May 16, 1999 at 09:08:45 (PDT)
my mother said it best. the smiths are in the past, if they were still around now they wouldn't have the mystery they have. they would probably be just another brit-rock band. they're a legend that needs not to be messed with.
moz has a great solo career, marr has a cool band with some rad people in it. cant you people just be content with what we DO have?
tara reader <crakondhed@aol.com>
oregon - Sun, May 16, 1999 at 11:17:46 (PDT)
C'mon! We've already known this. He has said this millions of times. They've been apart for 12 years. They've had lawsuits together. I wouldn't want to work with people I've litigated with, and if most people had sense, they wouldn't want to either.
Of course Moz would secretly love a reunion! He knows everyone loves him more when he was with Marr and now has to watch as fan and press insult his musicians even if they don't deserve it.
Of course Joyce and Rourke would love a reunion! They don't have any money, and are tired of being unknown session players with no credit to their talent like the old days.
And of course Marr doesn't want a reunion! After reading "The severed alliance", he comes off as being a babysitter to incredibly lazy, difficult to work for people. Everyone is either hiding from their phone or getting incredibly trashed. People think he should put up with anything just to keep a band like this going, but I can say that soon, the working situation feels like it's stifling you. Instead of getting work done, you're spending your time trying to round up the other members.
Madeline Albright
with their tanks and their bombs and their bombs and their guns - Sun, May 16, 1999 at 11:37:12 (PDT)
24 hours a day i dream of a Marr-Morrissey reunion. Johnny, never say never! I was a Soft Cell's fan and i remember that, after Soft Cell's split, Marc Almond said: "I will never play Soft Cell's songs in my concerts anymore". Well, 7 years after he has played Soft Cell's songs in his own concerts! So, i think that Morrissey and Marr were made for each other, and none of the will be happy unless they will work together again, and me too! Boz's songs are great, but the real genius is Johnny. Alain Whyte is a good songwriter, but the unforgettable songs are those written by Johnny. Stephen Street is ok, but Johhny's music is another thing. Morrissey's lirics are very nice, but without Johhny's music they are useless. And a note about Bernard Sumner, actual Johnny's partner: i have never heard a worst singer and a worst writer than him. It's sad to hear great Johnny's music with Bernard Sumner's voice. Please, Bernard, come back to New Order and leave Johnny free! Until Morrissey and Marr will not reunite, my life won't be the same as before their split. Johnny Marr and Morrissey forever in my heart! Thanks anyway for what all you have done!
Fabio Pagano <fpagano@apsystem.it>
Italy - Sun, May 16, 1999 at 12:25:47 (PDT)
Let me get my two cents in. How can people say that The Smiths are better than Morrissey (or vice versa)? Listen folks, The Smiths were the products of point in time that was unique from any other. The same with Morrissey's solo work. You are comparing musical apples and oranges if you will. Comparing The Smiths with Morrissey is the equivalent of comparing Impressionism with Cubism. Different ages produce different sounds. And if Marr and Morrissey did decide to collaborate again, that music will be different from The Smiths and Solo work as well. Johnny, if you don't want to work with Morrissey again thats fine, I like my apples and oranges just the same.
Historian <RezivDog@aol.com>
- Sun, May 16, 1999 at 14:45:09 (PDT)
If Marr and Mozz got back together they wouldn't have to write new music, just play the songs that made you cry and the songs that saved your life...
sheabird <robbinsnest@lowcountry.com>
- Sun, May 16, 1999 at 19:17:12 (PDT)
Well that did it for me. I am a BIG Smiths fan and again Morrissey is great but let's face it: his recent music SUCKS big. I have lost faith in this site as I realize 99% of you are blind followers of anything this guy puts out. Again I love early Morrissey attempts but come on now....seriously! This guy needs a new writing partner. I will seek a new site dedicated to the Smiths. The 1% of those who agree with me will have to suffer through the barrage of narrow minded Morrissey followers. Good bye. Good luck. I really did try to like his music solo, I really did. But he couldn't do it. Sorry buddy, YOU NEED MARR BACK!
Adrian <akalove@earthlink.net>
- Sun, May 16, 1999 at 19:27:53 (PDT)
The day i find myself in agreement with someone who uses the phrase "sucks badly" is the day i know I'm in the wrong.
Iain <ihamilt@aol.com>
- Mon, May 17, 1999 at 02:34:30 (PDT)
i totally agree with Historian
Moz is nearly 40...who wants him now singing songs like bigmouth or ask?
i think the first problem to like and enjoy moz music is the smiths.
But i'm sure he'll be remebered as geniopus of music when he stoped performing.
Someone has said it better:"famous when dead"
juan
- Mon, May 17, 1999 at 03:08:05 (PDT)
I agree with Historian...times influence music. I have loved The Smiths/Morrissey since '89...I still remember the first time I borrowed "Strangeways" from a friend...I actually DIDN'T like it! He loaned it to me again a bit later, and that time something clicked. I notice a lot of folks seem to deify The Smiths. Let's look back during the time they were together...they certainly had their share of critics. Some of their material was a bit weak, but most was brilliant. I look at Morrissey's solo career the same way. He's issued some fantastic stuff, but there are a fair number of weaker efforts in there, too. Sorry to ramble, I guess my point is just to try and keep a little perspective on the whole thing.
Nick <csxfan@hotmail.com>
- Mon, May 17, 1999 at 03:50:54 (PDT)
Morrissey is an admirable man and a musical genious of extraordinary proportions. He wouldn't get consumed into debates about Smiths re-unions etc. He's still got an enormous deal to offer to his fans. He still sings their lives. He is still capable of touching us all deep in our hearts, all of us who can appreciate his talent and intelligence. I just hope he will continue to give us what we've always asked for. Whoever he works with, it will make no difference to me...
"Maladjusted"
- Mon, May 17, 1999 at 06:23:36 (PDT)
HA! HA! All you cats are funny... Adrian hit the nail on the head... Moz has lost it! Plain and simple!! He's not a "genious" anymore(or however you kids spelled genius). He lost his touch. I check this site every now and then to see what's up with Moz...all I find are silly kiss-ass comments on "how great" Moz still is and "how beautiful" his new music is...ARE ALL OF YOU DEAF?!? And YES! I do think "Evergreen" is better than "Vauxhall," in fact "What Are You Going to Do With Your Life?" is 1000 times better than anything Moz has put out for 6 years!! "What Are You Going..." is a freaking beautiful album and "Rust"(newest single) is beyond beauty... I hear plenty of guitars in there. You morons are the ones who compare Moz with Echo all the time. I just speak my mind on what I hear and on what I think, just like the rest of you blind followers.
WAIT!! I have to buy this kind of shirt because Moz has one on, oh no! My hair and my boots don't look like Moz's, what will I do?!? He once showed people that it was OK to be different, be yourself, be sensitive...now all of you seem factory-made...it's hilarious!! Adrian, thank you for making sense of it all. dmfan, you too...
There are a few of us who want to still believe, but have had no luck.
By the way, my new website will be dedicated to The Smiths, Johnny Marr(if it wasn't for him-Moz would probably still be writing reviews to the NME), Stephen Street(a good songwriter, Moz's last good one[repeated for all of my fans]), Echo and the Bunnymen(a band of geniuses or is it "geniuoses"?), The Jam, and of course a man who has remained true to his music even as a "solo" artist--Roddy Frame--a real genuis or is it "genious" HA!! So check it out...coming soon...HA!!HA!! Good bye all....
george o.
- Mon, May 17, 1999 at 16:25:00 (PDT)
Morrissey hasn't lost it! What the hell are you talking about? You would love to be him. He is not a genious, I agree, maybe a genius (stupid irony btw) Leave them alone, if they want to dress like Morrissey or be factory made what your @#!!!ing problem?. I'm sure you've got a style on your "own." If you don't like him anymore that's fine, just don't come here and pretend you're cool and you really know what you're talking about.
You should create a web site about stupid cheap irony. You should start writing reviews about Morrissey to the NME, they would love them.
Karen <bkgomez@yahoo.com>
- Mon, May 17, 1999 at 20:18:56 (PDT)
"If you give him attention, he has won."
tony <twilde_62@hotmail.com>
- Mon, May 17, 1999 at 22:26:17 (PDT)
Morrisy remeins a ginious, rigardless of wether some "kid" or "moron" can duell on for hours on a misspeled word to maike their sily point...
"Udjusted"
- Mon, May 17, 1999 at 23:54:06 (PDT)
OK, i admit it, I was the one putting "genuos". I'm sorry. If i knew that this would be the main point on the discussion, i would not post anything.
i must be also be sorry for all my grammar errors, george. In fact, i'm spanish, i admit it.
i'm sorry again.
and do you know what? being spanish and liking morrissey solo stuff is not really very much trendy. Maybe it's more trendy to say you hate that awful "Morrisgay". He once showed us to be digfferent, to be sensitive...yes, and he still shows it. And you call us "kids" like it was an insult. well, i am kid, i am 21 (sorry again), and i do like morrissey, smiths, and i still like spirited music and beaty lyrics. Maybe you're an well know adult who has too slag kids liking the one you once liked to say "i was first".
congratulations you, adult
and if we all kids like morrissey, it's maybe he is a lasting thing. he says a lot of things about us and our lifes. How many 80's artists can still touch young people with his old and new music?
only few, i think, and not the forever-wonder-kid Roddy Frame, for sure!!
so..you old man, keep listening your guitar music, and we'll do so.
p.s: and i am not a moz-haired-boy, you must be sure. Noone oh his newest fans are. You are falling into and stupid cliché.
sorry again for my southern grammar
my speaking is even worse
and i'd be happy if i could play like boz boorer
and journalist who lie was moz worst song, written by the geniuos street!!!
(he also works with geniuos like blur and cramberries)
oh, well, enough said
juan
- Tue, May 18, 1999 at 07:12:39 (PDT)
BUENO...NO ZE....
YO LO DEL MORRIZI EZE LO VEO...NO ZE...
UN POCO...COMO UN TORO!!!
NO?
jezulin de ubrique
- Tue, May 18, 1999 at 13:10:50 (PDT)
Morrissey & Marr... I still say it'd be very cool. Further, I actually think Morrissey would do it if he weren't so proud. I believe what I've read that Marr was Morrissey's "love" in the sense of respect and admiration. (I don't think Moz has had 1/10th of the relationship with anyone quite like he had with Marr.) One word... Moz RESPECTS Marr.
j bonner
Des Moines, IA - Wed, May 19, 1999 at 16:07:32 (PDT)
While it's difficult for me to compare the latest offerings from Morrissey and the Bunnymen, I must say that Electrafixion, EATB's "Evergreen", and "What Are You Going To Do With Your Life?" are all brilliant offerings.
Perhaps Morrissey and Marr should collaborate again. "Maladjusted" and its b-sides are all terrific, but I miss the "heavier" sound (like "Jack The Ripper").
Ken
- Sun, May 23, 1999 at 11:48:26 (PDT)
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