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Ugh! How awful! I suppose, though, that it makes sense that Mr. Rollins would like Black Sabbath... What can you expect from a meathead, right?
David the Egg <[email protected]> (gradcd-bootp-94.gradcenter.brown.edu)
Providence - Mon, Feb 22, 1999 at 09:08:13 (PST)
Wow! What original thoughts from Mr. Rollins--almost as original as the thought of a pseudo-musician trying to be an actor! Bad one at that...at least Morrissey has never pretended to be something he's not...He's always been true about himself--warts and all. I guess Mr. Rollins had to build up his body to make up for such a small mind. While Mozz might not win a body-building title, I DARE Henry to compete in a meeting of the minds with him! Rollins is just like our other friend, Marilyn Manson--it's so easy to call Mozz "gay", he's such an easy target--but who's going to be remembered more? A meathead and a "Glam-queen" wanna-be or Morrissey? Besides, I know that Rollins writes poetry, I know he writes such bloody awful poetry...and I hear Manson is in his psycho-girlfriend's new movie...sorry, Marilyn...you're down to your last five minutes of fame, thankfully!
- Mon, Feb 22, 1999 at 09:25:21 (PST)
of course i can't say i agree with anything Rollins has to say about Moz. I do however, think it's pretty funny. Black Flag was one of my favorite bands a long time ago and the Rollins Band is not bad either. Anyone with a sense of humor can see that Rollins know exactly what he is doing when he says things like that (IF in fact he actually does say them). He's a troublemaker. He likes to rub people the wrong way. Espeically easy targets like Moz fans. When anybody says ANYTHING funny or negative about Moz or the Smiths, all the fans just go crazy like only their opinions count. If Moz fans went onto a Rollins site and poked fun a him, i seriously doubt the backlash would be the same as when someone does it to Moz. Like i said, it's all pretty funny to me. I'm sure Morrissey doesn't sit around wondering what old punk rockers think about him. Maybe someone at MTV can match them up for a celebrity death match. I'd pay to see that!
- Mon, Feb 22, 1999 at 09:28:28 (PST)
I have nothing against jibes at people I admire...if I got mad everytime someone said something against Morrissey I wouldn't leave my house. I laugh when people joke about my other favorite singer, Kate Bush, because she has an easy voice to make fun of. But I don't find anything "funny" about hearing Rollins say he would like to set Mozz on fire or make him piss his pants...that's just ugly talk from someone who should find a better way to vent his repressed homosexuality. I mean, I love quirky humor, but come on! "Trouble maker" or not, when in real life you have people being dragged to death because of their race or beaten to death because of their sexual preference, someone with Rollin's alleged intelligence should just keep his mouth shut about that stuff. No wonder Morrissey wants so little to do with the world...if I thought I had to deal with people like that I'd say "screw you" too. Why are you even on this list if you think there's nothing wrong with someone wanting to see Morrissey burned alive/humiliated? That's the part I can't see justified--the violence. I hope I never bump into you on the street either...
- Mon, Feb 22, 1999 at 09:53:23 (PST)
well, *I* like Black Sabbath and I'm also an obsessive Smiths/Morrissey fanatic. Am I a meathead? No...I'm also veggie. Now that I think about it quite a few members of Sabbath are vegetarians. As for Mr. Rollins, I can't say I'm entirely familiar with his work, but I can't say that i hate what he does. I remember seeing a video for his ONLY known single "Liar", and he was dressed like that retarded boy from the "Ask" video in a scene where he's acting friendly. As for his snide comments about our aging hero, I could care less. It makes for good, heart-wrenching entertainment, regardless if it's true or not (the former being most likely), just to see all the reactions. Yes, everyone is going to expect me to scream out "lighten up!" or something as tawdry and over-said as that, but I won't. There really isn't any point to this post, so i'll leave it at that.
vegetation <[email protected]> (ppp-astk02--099.sirius.net)
- Mon, Feb 22, 1999 at 09:58:36 (PST)
I don't know... Everyone seems to be jealous of Mozz... Marilyn Manson, Robert Smith, Henry Rollins, Fatboy Slim... Though it's not much to be bothered with, their comments are all pretty unfounded and often pubertal.
"You're in suspension - you're a liar" (John Lydon)
Henrik Rydéhn <[email protected]> (rb7091.dialup.telia.se)
Strangeways Prison, Manchester - Mon, Feb 22, 1999 at 11:38:15 (PST)
What a feckin 'eejit. I suppose Rollins would be bitter, what with his career in the shambles and all. "The sanest days are mad." I say, and besides this publicity for Moz just boosts his ego, not brash his sensibility, Feck 'em all!!!!
J.J. Harrier <[email protected]> (tau.spectrumwireless.net)
- Mon, Feb 22, 1999 at 12:11:59 (PST)
I always like it when Moz is in the press regardless of whether its good or bad...
- Mon, Feb 22, 1999 at 12:24:31 (PST)
I've never been impressed with this guy Henry Rollins. the only people who liked him at college were the jocks or whatever. I've never been impressed by any of his songs either. he's not really worth talking about. he continues to try and cause a stir whenever he can or else people would forget about him. there's not much point in discussing him as he really has no talent. well, i guess he can yell and scream with the best of them.......
- Mon, Feb 22, 1999 at 12:51:28 (PST)
why wouldn't those guys be envious of our Hero? I don't think any of them could write songs like "Suffer Little Children" or even "Dagenham Dave" and/or sing them with as much reckless delivery as Morrissey. I still say he ranks along the lines as the poet of our time, as do many others. Could the same be said for Robert? Henry? or Fatstick Jim? I think not. So there ya go.
vegetation <[email protected]> (ppp-astk02--065.sirius.net)
- Mon, Feb 22, 1999 at 13:56:33 (PST)
That really makes me angry. I guess it really makes most Moz/Smiths fans mad, though, and I'm sure that you are right that he is trying to cause trouble or whatever. So, let him. Morrissey is a big person, much bigger than most. I'm sure he could give a damn. I'd like to think that Morrissey would say nice things about him sort of sarcastically or just be very kind to anything said about him just to piss him off. It's those very things that I think make people hate him. The very fact that he can say and do what he wants and get so much attention without appearing on MTV everyday and showing up practically naked ant Award shows. He doesn't do those things, because he need not do them.(and it's embarassing, MTV*shiver*) It must be jealousy with those idiots. Manson, Rollins, and Deffinitely Fatboy Slim have never written any lyrics that could or would ever be able to touch as many hearts or mean as much to as many people as Morrissey's. Their lyrics are more likely to be heard while high or on a killing spree of sorts. Oh, by the way what had Manson said about Morrissey? I must have missed that one .
Corey <[email protected]> (dl9.livingston.bedford.net)
Pennsylvania - Mon, Feb 22, 1999 at 15:57:16 (PST)
Once again, the ever-so admirable Mozzer is poked at with a stick and we come running to his defense. I found what Rollins said, utterly hilarious and it doesn't bother me at all. In fact, just to know that Rollins is bothered so much by our boy Moz, as to make such empty threats and cruel insults about him, gives me a sense of satisfaction knowing that no matter how much Rollins wishes he could perform those things, he won't, and has to live with that knowledge as long as he lives. --After we finish judging others for their errors and character faults, our own errors and character faults are exposed, and so we are forced to deal with ourselves.--
Javier Obregon <[email protected]> (167-171-52.ipt.aol.com)
Montclair,CA - Mon, Feb 22, 1999 at 17:59:28 (PST)
i must be brutally honest, i despise henry rollins and it seems am not alone. truth be known, i disliked him to a massive degree even before he issued these statments. he is, the embodiment of all that is laughable, a mere jester in the mozzers' court, off with his head, die rollins you bloody rodent!
n.j. - Mon, Feb 22, 1999 at 18:45:21 (PST)
What can you expect from a wannabe recording artist.
Kevin <[email protected]> (spider-tn083.proxy.aol.com)
- Mon, Feb 22, 1999 at 20:07:13 (PST)
I'M A MOZ/SMITHS ADDICT I CAN NEVER GO ANYWHERE WITHOUT MY CD'S .BUT I'M A MINOR LEAUGE HOCKEY PLAYER AND WHEN I NEED MUSIC TO GET ME PUMPED UP FOR ONE OF MY GAMES ,YES I DO PUT ON ROLLINS CAUSE THATS ALL HIS MUSIC IS GOOD FOR JOCKS LIKE ME.HIS MUSIC WILL NEVER HAVE ANY MEANING OR CONNECTION LIKE WHEN I LISTEN TO MOZ'S SONGS.TAKE ROLLINS FOR WHAT HE IS A PHONY UNINTELLIGENT OVER TATOOED JERK.HENRY GO MAKE ANOTHER STRAIGHT FOR HBO MOVIE.HIS MUSIC WILL NO LONGER BE PLAYED IN ANY LOCKER ROOM I'M IN.SEE YA MOZ FANS UNITE AND TAKE OVER!!!!!!!!PS I'M SO F ING PISSED I MISSED THE VIDEO ON M(oran)TV THOSE IDIOTS NEED TO GET THERE ACT TOGETHER AND KILL THE ILLITERATE RAP AND TEENIE BOPPER MUSIC AND PLAY MORE MOZ!!!!!!!
mozphilly <[email protected]> (spider-tq014.proxy.aol.com)
philly - Mon, Feb 22, 1999 at 20:36:23 (PST)
If I weren't a Morrissey fan and was watching that program and saw that moron introduce the video in that manner, I would become an instant Morrissey fan and go out and buy his records the next day.
It's a great compliment!
And, I'm sorry Henry, if the ten million times who whored yourself to MTV didn't pay off. Don't blame Morrissey for being able to make some dough off his work!
sam shuster <[email protected]> (spider-wb063.proxy.aol.com)
- Mon, Feb 22, 1999 at 21:28:13 (PST)
man, that is some funny junk. rollins ain't the nicest guy and has changed it seems since his Black Flag years, but nonetheless thats some funny @#!!!. thats morrissey's problem, its just too easy to make fun of him
patrick valiant <[email protected]> (port-la14.cwo.com)
ca - Mon, Feb 22, 1999 at 23:14:55 (PST)
Rollins can QUOTE David Lee Roth - I think we can rest our case.
Jonathan <[email protected]> (rzaix06.rrz.uni-hamburg.de)
Hamburg, Germany - Tue, Feb 23, 1999 at 06:11:30 (PST)
Well,that Henry guy forgot two important things:
1. America is 100 times bigger than Britain, but Morrissey has A PLACE in popular history (regardless what he did or said), which Mr.Rollins will never reach, even if he will play the next
Batman or something.
2. Well, if all Morrissey fans:'kids with bad teeth who don't have enough Vitamin C who never get outside, then Rollins fans are idiot
body-builder @#!!!s, who keep their brains between their legs? I don't think so...
But the most important thing is: if someone
hates Moz, that's OK, if someone hates Moz fans,
that's OK, but hey, Mr. Rollins? Aren't you,
who speaks always about tolerance and so on?
And hey, i bet you have as twice as much money as
Moz...don't you feel hypocrite?
Pinkie <[email protected]> (188.8.131.52)
- Tue, Feb 23, 1999 at 06:50:48 (PST)
I've said it before and I'll say it again:
Anybody who puts *that* much effort into ranting and bashing on someone has feelings of love wrapped in their hatred. I mean..."every time I see that video" (November)..exactly how often does it play on TV these days?? Rollins has a tape of Moz videos, watches them religiously, and makes himself crazy. I love Moz, and so does Rollins in his own way. Can't understand all this defensive action.
Jason <[email protected]> (dns1.samurai.ne.jp)
Tokyo - Tue, Feb 23, 1999 at 08:10:38 (PST)
It's more than obvious than Henry is drenched in jealousy. "How dare Morrissey still be creative and productive, when I have to host these embarassing shows!" He must lie in bed every night and think of ways to torture his mortal enemy, Morrissey. Perhaps you should go write a song or do some spoken word on a street corner you washed up drone! What was the name of your last album? THAT'S GREAT!!!! Whatever it was, I'm sure it was a timeless classic. I truely wish you'd die in a hotel fire, Henry!
- Tue, Feb 23, 1999 at 08:52:49 (PST)
Er, no. He's still meathead-material, and so is Sabbath. I liked them, too... when I was fourteen and I used to punch holes in the wall.
Please concede that speedmetal isn't the most... uh, _precise_ musical form out there.
As for it being funny... Well, okay, the last line truly is--the bit about peeing his pants and promising never to do it again. I don't agree but do appreciate the humor. Lighting someone on fire, though... I won't say it can't be funny, but I will say that here, it isn't. I'm sorry, I just don't get it.
Rollins is someone I used to like and I can understand how people would like to listen to him and Sabbath, but calling yourself a big fan of either?! Just another beer-swilling rugby-tooth-loss-accident waiting to happen.
Sad to say...
David the Egg <[email protected]> (gradcd-bootp-94.gradcenter.brown.edu)
Providence - Tue, Feb 23, 1999 at 09:37:29 (PST)
- Tue, Feb 23, 1999 at 10:09:32 (PST)
a - Tue, Feb 23, 1999 at 10:12:01 (PST)
What is with Rollins and Morrissey?? It's not like Morrissey is all over the cover of every music magazine and shown on TV everyday. So why is Rollins commenting on him? Is he obsessed? I think he is mad because he can't comprehend how many fans Morrissey actually has. Loyal ones at that. He doesn't understand why so many young people want to be a fan of Morrissey and not him. He is an act, Morrissey isn't. I mean, actors hate it when they aren't in the limelight...........
philadelphia - Tue, Feb 23, 1999 at 11:44:03 (PST)
If that's what we have to endure to finally see
Morrissey videos...then so be it.
kevin <[email protected]> (rh602d117.bus.duq.edu)
Pittsburgh - Tue, Feb 23, 1999 at 12:26:48 (PST)
Ok, so I read all this and I must first say that I love Morrissey and the Smiths and have for over 10 years. However, I am appalled that anyone would be so quick to judge someone they know nothing about. It is obvious that anyone who would say that Rollins is unintelligent knows nothing about him. I have seen Rollins do his spoken word shows numerous times and will continue to do so. I have heard him make his comments on Morrissey. They are quite funny. Most jocks haven't a clue who the hell Rollins is, thank you very much. Please, if you want to bash Rollins, at least get to know the man and what he stands for because I think he is one of the most intelligent people in the entertainment business. And by the way, he is not gay. He, like the rest of you, has the right to his opinion. Moz is great, I agree, but Rollins is God. I'm very sorry that many of you out there haven't the open mindedness and intelligence to get him. He is for the elite. And please, people, get a sense of humor. You stereotype Sabbath fans as Meatheads, but all go whining when someone (Manson, Rollins) stereotypes Moz fans as fags and wimps. Let's be realistic and fair. Get a sense of humor! The comments both Rollins and Manson have made are absolutely hysterical. They are both very intelligent, well-read, opinionated entertainers (key word) and until you have seen or heard them in true context, please shut the hell up!! And once again, before you all get your panties in a bunch, please remember that I am a Moz fan, tried and true.
- Tue, Feb 23, 1999 at 12:32:07 (PST)
well said, jennifer
- Tue, Feb 23, 1999 at 12:56:11 (PST)
Rollins is God? What on earth has that man ever done to deserve that title?
- Tue, Feb 23, 1999 at 13:16:19 (PST)
I'm sorry, but Rollins is an idiot. No, it's true. I won't ask how dim a person has to be to be awed at the inane tripe dressed-up as clever observations that Rollins spews out in his spoken word performances.
- Tue, Feb 23, 1999 at 13:32:02 (PST)
I don't care how much intellect Henry "Spider" Rollins possesses; quoting David Lee Roth immediately negates any amount of intelligence.
- Tue, Feb 23, 1999 at 14:22:17 (PST)
Mr. Rollins obviously has no taste and even fewer manners.
IN, USA - Tue, Feb 23, 1999 at 14:32:07 (PST)
Did anyone ever stop for just a moment to consider the fact that maybe Henry Rollins is right? Hmm.
Sam Bishop <[email protected]> (seq-lis132.arl.logicon.com)
- Tue, Feb 23, 1999 at 14:42:54 (PST)
Whaaaatttttttt??????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! If you just for one second consider the possibility of Henry “Bloody Awful” Rollins being right, I just don’t know what are you doing visiting this site. I must assume that you haven’t understood any single word ever said by Moz. And, how can anybody find his comments funny? I just don’t understand!
Charles Byron <[email protected]> (host029105.ciudad.com.ar)
Olivos - Buenos Aires - Argentina - Tue, Feb 23, 1999 at 16:21:34 (PST)
Hmmm.......Mr.Rollins may not be as lyrically talented as Mozzer (especially after that horrible attempt at a spoken word album), but he sure knows how to take one up the ass.
Damn, he's a good @#!!!.
Smitten <[email protected]> (isbifw.humana.com)
USA - Wed, Feb 24, 1999 at 06:43:44 (PST)
How sad it is that so many of you are so sadly insescure that you get defensive when someone puts down a singer, not you! Contrary to what many of you think, I'm sure if Rollins put any of you down personally, Moz would not jump to defend your sorry ass. And if Moz doesn't give a crap what Rollins has to say about him, why should you? Get a life. And for the closed-minded Charles Byron, it is possible for one to be a fan of someone other than Moz and see the other side of things. Once again, please get a freaking sense of humor! I'm almost embarassed to be as big a Moz fan as I am now that I've seen how pathetic most of his fans are. Devotion and loyalty are fine qualities to posess, yes, but when it clouds your concept of reality it is wrong, wrong wrong. That is all I have to say. I remain a Moz fan and Rollins supporter all the same.
- Wed, Feb 24, 1999 at 07:15:06 (PST)
Jennifer, first of all, Rollins also dissed Morrissey FANS. So he wasn't just attacking Morrissey, he was attacking US.
Also, I didn't take it seriously. I thought it was funny. But it's also rather pathetic. I mean, if Rollins goes out of his way time and time again to slam Morrissey, and Morrissey has never said a word about Rollins, I guess we can see from that that Rollins is obsessed with and jealous of Morrissey and that Morrissey couldn't care less about Rollins.
Also, yes, I do think we ought to watch Morrissey's back. That's what friends are for. But, although you, Judas, may be a Rollins sympathizer, I guess you can still be a Morrissey fan. For now. = )
I don't think Rollins deserves to die because he hates Morrissey. I think he deserves to die because his terrible music makes the world a slightly worse place to live in.
sam shuster <[email protected]> (spider-tf063.proxy.aol.com)
- Wed, Feb 24, 1999 at 08:18:59 (PST)
Jennifer, I would like to add that I hope you are burned alive and possibly raped. In that order. Haha! Wasn't that funny? Don't you love the bitingly satiric edge I was able to assume to show how vastly intelligent I am? And since you are also of this vast intelligence (unlike those lesser Morrissey fans we must deal with every time we try to display our vast intellectual abilities) I knew right away that you would grasp the subtle dark humor of my commentary. Isn't it great to be so f*cking superior?
- Wed, Feb 24, 1999 at 08:34:42 (PST)
Henry is a musclebound nut with
too much anger coarsing through his veins
lee <[email protected]> (184.108.40.206)
- Wed, Feb 24, 1999 at 09:14:48 (PST)
actually, there are parrallels between Sabs and the Smiths. Both have songs about the horrible things of life and the sadness of the good things always being just out of reach.
As much as i love the Smiths, i think Sabs are more musical. To my recollection there is no Smiths song that is not in 4/4.
As far as 'speedmetal' not being precise, you obviously have no idea what you are talking about. I could name dozens of musicians that play in 'metal' bands that are of a world class standard of musicianship that would give Alan Holdsworth or John Patitucci or Dave Weckyl a run for their money. Email me if you don't believe me!!!!
Don't get me wrong, Henry Rollins and his band are terribly simple and i am not defending him in any way.
joshua <[email protected]> (bitbucket.bmsus.com)
- Wed, Feb 24, 1999 at 09:35:28 (PST)
any of you see any movie rollins is in? not a very good actor is he.. how about any song he has written..he was not very good at that either .....hmm what is he good at...pretending to be a smart guy.....I don't know about any of you but when someone trys to embarass someone a national television show..I think its shows a severe lack of intelligence and character...but I suppose superior people are like that....I am glad a am just a lowly bad teethed kid w/a severe lack of vitamin c...whatever the @#!!! that means....screw rollins and screw anyone that defends him...he was wrong for what he said...he is wrong most of the time... I suppose only other highly superior like jennifer can see his godliness though ....
oh wait I do have more to say....I have more talent in my pinky then that man has in all of his body
boyeastlikelytoo(Kakarot) <[email protected]> (store-156-80.sssnet.com)
- Wed, Feb 24, 1999 at 10:09:13 (PST)
Jennifer, please marry me!!!!!!!
- Wed, Feb 24, 1999 at 10:25:23 (PST)
I've got a friend who lives in LA who distributes Maps to the Stars homes. He is also a f'n huge MOZ fan. Anyhow, he knows where Rollins lives and is putting together a posse tonight to picket Rollins house and possibly launch an attack w/ flamings bags of dog poo. So if anyone is interested, meet "Franklin" in front of Mann's Chinese Theatre tonight at 8:30 pm wearing a Moz or Smiths tee. Bring your own dog poo. AVENGE THE MOZZER!
The Boy with the Thorn in His Side < > (seq-lis132.arl.logicon.com)
- Wed, Feb 24, 1999 at 10:28:22 (PST)
For some reason I feel Mr Rollins is trying to be funny in a Morrissey type of way...Although I have yet to see another topic get as much attention and folks all roused up as this. I just think its all too funny. I seriously think Rollins is a repressed Morrissey fan but can't cop to it because that would be defeat by a more talented artist. Sorry Henry...YOU lose.
Adrian <[email protected]> (pool009-max5.ds6-ca-us.dialup.earthlink.net)
- Wed, Feb 24, 1999 at 10:45:09 (PST)
I guess at this point I'm just being a jerk to keep posting, but I feel like it anyway.
Granted, if I were the sort to get my panties in a bunch everytime someone called me a Vitamin C-deprived, sunlight-hating, whiny, Anglophile momma's boy just because I own a Morrissey single (or two... heh), then _yes_, I would be a real jerk to call Henry Rollins and Black Sabbath meathead-material. However, I am not so mushy.
As I am not that kind of wimp, I think I can fairly respond in the same vein: Rollins's is music for mouth-breathing fraternity idiots and skate punks who like to play the latest big thing out of their modified pickup trucks. Not that there's anything wrong with that.
There's no accounting for taste, obviously. Thank god I don't get in a fight like this everytime I talk to my friends who like the Pixies more than Depeche Mode (which, of course, marks them as ludicrous zealots, right?)
But as for Mr. Rollins and those musicians he (overtly) admires--yergh! I refuse to believe that the idiots I know who think Black Flag is so "bitchin'" have got it right... If you continue to believe that Rollins is for the "elite," by all means, quarantine yourself with all those others who are so much better than the hoi polloi and really _appreciate_ the subtleties of "Liar." I think the Branch Dividians had a similar sort of deal. If you profess to be a fan of both Morrissey _and_ Hank, however, please realize that most of us who like the first singularly think the second is a pile of trash and will ridicule you mercilessly for owning the records... one might say the same as we got from the man himself in all these interviews.
Don't cry about how no one appreciates him like you do; we all understand that (being Smiths fans, possibly better than anyone), and we aren't prone to giving you sympathy for it.
Suck it up, slick.
David the Egg <[email protected]> (gradcd-bootp-94.gradcenter.brown.edu)
Providence - Wed, Feb 24, 1999 at 11:29:27 (PST)
Some people have said that Rollins must have some kind of hidden affection for Morrissey because he trashes him so much. Well, just maybe the people who simultaniously trash Rollins could, deep down, really like Rollins. I'm not siding with Hank, I just wanted you all to see the hypocracy.
Dea-|-h <[email protected]> (pm1-24.dialup.flinet.com)
THe SPLiT EYe - Wed, Feb 24, 1999 at 15:05:11 (PST)
Love the Ted Bundy comment, "youknowwho"! Can someone please break into Henry's house and please find his collection of Morrissey music and videos??!!!!!! And to all the "fans" who are defending Rollins or telling us to take it easy, listen; do you actually think we are gnashing our teeth while we type our words? Do you think we are yelling and cursing Henry outloud? Are we going to go on a psycho rampage to defend our Morrissey? NO!! We're just commenting!! Relax, we're not Rollins' fans you know!!
Philadelphia - Wed, Feb 24, 1999 at 15:25:02 (PST)
Hey, I just talked to Franklin. He needs to know how many people are showing up for the Rollins Assault so he can gauge how much poo to bring. Apparently, he's found a good source. What's the word, y'all? Let's feckin' rock!!!
The Boy with the Thorn in His Side < > (seq-lis132.arl.logicon.com)
- Wed, Feb 24, 1999 at 15:30:16 (PST)
Henry Rollins does not know Morrissey. Likewise, Morrissey does not know Rollins. Nor do any of us know either of them. Can any Morrissey fans honestly dispute the fact that Morrissey, whether with The Smiths or not, is a whiny poster boy for martyrdom? I did not think so. This does not change the fact that Morrissey is a f'ng genius. I guess the truth just hurts. To continually denounce Rollins is to be guilty of the same thing he is. We are all Morrissey fans and always will be. That so many people can not understand or share our obsession is their loss. By the way, I have a feeling the Mr. Rollins is viewing this page right now laughing at all of you.
atticus <[email protected]> (proxy1.skat.net)
- Wed, Feb 24, 1999 at 17:00:35 (PST)
Moz fans looking for a possible explanation for Dear Henry's Mozphobia might be interested in an interview with Dear Henry at www.marksimpson.com (once the home page loads hit the 'Journalism' button)called 'Something for Your Ass'. There's a lot of discussion of prison bitches, hypermasculinity, punishing super-egos and those persistent gay rumours about Jocko Henry.
US - Wed, Feb 24, 1999 at 19:05:15 (PST)
I have a feeling that Mr.Rollins probably came across a book called Spin Alternative Record Guide
in which he has been compared with Morrissey.
In the section on Henry Rollins someone called James Hannaham writes:
"Understanding Henry Rollins, former singer for L.A. hardcore band, Black Flag,tattooed muscular testosterone shake guzzler and admitted jerk,
entails a drastic but worthwhile comparison:
Morrissey.Both these photogenic boys have become
the objects of gay drooling-Rollins was even once called "the thinking man's Marky Mark."Both have literary leanings.Morrissey, before he dropped his
given name, published a biography of James Dean.
Rollins, who also drops his first name from time to time, has created an alternative cottage industry centered around his writing, touring the world telling personal anecdotes like a white-trash Spalding Gray.Both began their careers without any singing ability.Morrissey groaned and eventually learned to sing a bit.Rollins started
out shouting and now yells.Their opposite methods
of coping can't cover up the fact that they're flip sides of the same coin.
Take the Rollins Band's 'Life Time',its first release after Black Flag's breakup,which evidently hit Henry pretty hard.Rollins' deep concern for his own pain manifests itself everywhere."I Hate The World That I Think Hates
Me," he growls."Don't Love Me-You'll Hate Yourself!" There's Nothing Like Finding Someone When You're Lonely To Make You Want To Be All
Alone"is an obvious parody of a Smiths song title.Morrissey's "Well I Wonder"'s desperate "Gasping,dying/But somehow still alive/This is
the final stand of all I am" transforms into Rollins' "If You're Alive"'s "I'm dying/I'm
freezing/it's youthat/I'm needing."
Taking on one of Smiths' bad habits,at its inception the Rollins Band had trouble releasing albums of all-new material.
Rolins' lyrics now divide themselves into two categories-songs about unrequited lovers at
absolute ends of their ropes, and songs of advice to young Henry Rollins aspirants.His Morrissey impression,the one that causes him to simultaneously send out the messages"I am the center of the universe," and "I'm a lousy
individual," hasn't abated at all;in fact,"Low
Self Opinion" could be his love song to the
Miserable Mancunian."I know the self doubt that
treats you so unkind," he croons in his own way.
When 1994's Weight saw light Henry & Co. had
found a new muscle bassist in art-jazz veteran Melvin Gibbs,and a post-Lollapalooza new lease on life.Longtime producer Theo Van Rock finally gets a budget large enough to pay for a decent
recording, and it becomes the Rollins Band's
Strangeways Here We Come. Henry's still writing
songs about celebrity,"Icon"(see "Paint a Vulgar Picture")' he's learned to sing-albeit like Lou Reed(see "I Won't Share You"),and he's still
unlucky in love, "Fool"(see "Unhappy Birthday"),
but he and the band have finally gottenbored with their boners and introduced some variation in mood.As a result they won their biggest success to date with the alternately sweet and sour
"Liar"(see "I Started Something I Couldn't Finish"). Viva Hate."
Sorry for the very long post but I had to put this here.
Glamlisp <[email protected]> (spider-ta013.proxy.aol.com)
chicago, il - Wed, Feb 24, 1999 at 20:13:11 (PST)
Although Rollins should be ashamed of his public display of bitter hatred, his comments are terribly, terribly, Morrissey-like. I have no doubt that his Morrissey collection is larger than mine.
- Wed, Feb 24, 1999 at 21:11:36 (PST)
I honestly do not care what Rollins says about Morrissey. Moz is certainly not a perfect human being. The fact remains that Rollins is a moron. I recognised what an idiot he was long ago when I heard his songs and saw the odd interview with him, and that was years before I even knew what he thought of Morrissey. He actually has a "book" now. I had a browse through it in the store and it is utter bilge. I know that some dull-witted people are amazed at his junk because he can quote Nietzsche and give the impression that he is well-read (and he can quote that fountain of profundity David Lee Roth!). However, Rollins is just a dolt and that is that.
- Wed, Feb 24, 1999 at 23:11:32 (PST)
I would like to say this about this whole Morrissey/Rollins thing: I am a true Morrissey fan, and I don't by any means think that what Rollis said is worth applause, but you have to admit that Morrissey himself has been known to say some rather cutting things in his time. For example in 1985 he said that if the Queen Mother died he would be there hammering the nails in the coffin. Okay - so that isn't that incredibly biting and I think that the Royalty is an antiquated joke, but I am sure that a monarchist somewhere was offended. But hey - he made a nasty joke about death...eeeeek. Isn't that what Rollins did? Get over youselves people - I love Henry Rollins, he is intelligent and eloquent. I love Morrissey - he is my absolute hero. But for God's sake - GET OVER IT. I am sure that Morrissey has enough wit of his own to defend himself against anyone if he had to. Morrissey is not all peace and love - just ask any Cure fan...
- Thu, Feb 25, 1999 at 02:27:48 (PST)
Kelly, that is exactly what it is all about!! You`re so right.
Elsbe <[email protected]> (a1as04-p192.hh.tli.de)
Germany - Thu, Feb 25, 1999 at 03:46:46 (PST)
His comments sound like something my friends say about Morrissey. I still get a little angry, but I've learned to ignore their ignorance for the most part.
jeremy <[email protected]> (bfce.wuerzburg.army.mil)
- Thu, Feb 25, 1999 at 06:37:15 (PST)
Henry Rollins is a tired old @#!!!. He's a no talent, head & shoulders, stub cock bitch. I'd like the opportunity to put my weave up and read him like a 49cent trashy novel that he is. What has he done that is memorable? I see envy in his eyes.
Eddie Riff <Eddie [email protected]> (spider-tp071.proxy.aol.com)
- Thu, Feb 25, 1999 at 12:02:53 (PST)
The @#!!! with rollins, his music with black flags was cool, but keith morris did a way better job than rollins ignorant ass. im disgusted to know that he lifts weights, he makes all weight lifters look so @#!!!en stupid. he should lift less weigth and give his brain more exercise
jose jaime, and my sidekick charlie dunn <[email protected]> (spider-wc012.proxy.aol.com)
- Thu, Feb 25, 1999 at 20:18:27 (PST)
I CANNOT REMEMBER WHO IT WAS BUT SOMEONE WROTE THAT MORRISSEY HAS NEVER SAID A WORD ABOUT ROLLINS. THAT IS FALSE. MORRISSEY SAID IN AN INTERVIEW IN DETAILS THAT HE THOUGHT ROLLINS HAD A NICE BODY BUT AS FOR HIS POETRY HE WAS NOT TOO SURE ABOUT IT (OR SOMETHING ALONG THOSE LINES) AND BY THE WAY LEAVE POOR DAVID LEE OUT OF THIS. HE IS MERELY AN INNOCENT BYSTANDER. HE COULD PROBABLY CARE LESS WHAT ROLLINS THINKS.
SOMEWHERE - Fri, Feb 26, 1999 at 04:27:03 (PST)
P.S. BROTHERS OF METAL UNITE AND TAKE OVER!!!!
AS FOR THE SISTERS I AM ASSUMING THEY WERE TOO INTELLIGENT FOR SUCH IDIOTIC FUN.
SOMEWHERE - Fri, Feb 26, 1999 at 04:30:48 (PST)
All of this is fookin' stupid. 60 comments for a lame comment made by a repressed loser? I know we all love Morrissey but get a life! The more emphasis you put on the comments people make the more they'll say because it shows you as an easy target. I could care less of what Rollins, or other idiot with negative comments has to say.
- Fri, Feb 26, 1999 at 08:16:02 (PST)
I too am a hockey player, and I listen to the "deftones" (their liead singer loves moz and does cover songs during their shows). trust me their lyrics are meaningless and I just listen to them to get pumped up. NO I"M NOT A JOCK FAR FROM THAT. Rollins is obviously jealous he wasn't and never will be as famous as moz!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
shaye <[email protected]> (client-151-201-27-121.brads.net)
midland PA - Fri, Feb 26, 1999 at 12:17:20 (PST)
And I contribute to the excess... Rollins insults Morrissey because he is aware of only the stereotyped version of Moz. Rollins not knowledgeable enough for his opinions to count, so don't take it personally. At the most he's brash and so impatient he can't wait to formulate an educated opinion before he shoots his mouth off. And he'll never see any of this either...
- Fri, Feb 26, 1999 at 12:37:48 (PST)
Who the hell is Henry Rollins? Really...I've NEVER
heard of this person. I mean, thank God I've never
heard of him.
Hairdresser on Fire
- Fri, Feb 26, 1999 at 19:30:00 (PST)
HE IS THAT ONE GUY, YOU KNOW.
SOMEWHERE - Sat, Feb 27, 1999 at 01:41:33 (PST)
Well at least Morrisey is not a failed actor....I mean Rollins even made Keanu Reeves look good in that Johnny Bmovie thing he made a few years ago!
- Sat, Feb 27, 1999 at 05:52:54 (PST)
Rollins is the @#!!!...Moz sucks ass. You people are so retarded. Get a @#!!!ing life. Someone actually said Moz will have a place in popular history. What the hell are you talking about? Moz is worthless and The Smiths are so freakin' overrated it's unbelieveable you all kiss their ass. At least Sabbath plays some real music and will be more influential than the Smiths could ever have hoped to be...or you could have hope they be, you freakin' morons.
- Sat, Feb 27, 1999 at 18:34:25 (PST)
that spin alternative record guide is well out of order, comparing the monosyllabic rollins to moz is one thing, but saying moz can't sing! - WHAT!! well excuse me but that's the reason i love him so much in the first place, moz is an incredible vocalist, the evidence - i know it's over!
John <[email protected]> (spider-to084.proxy.aol.com)
- Sun, Feb 28, 1999 at 14:40:50 (PST)
"IT'S SO EASY TO LAUGH, IT'S SO EASY TO HATE . IT TAKES GUTS TO BE GENTLE AND KIND."
Henry Rollins is a moron. He's so obviously jealous of Moz. Either that or the steriods have desolved his brain
The Girl Racer <%00> (max01-44.suba.com)
Chicago - Sun, Feb 28, 1999 at 16:02:48 (PST)
pfff.. Ever heard the comments Morrissey made on Madonna, Mick Jagger or Phil Collins? Everybody's clever nowadays.
John <[email protected]> (pat00.eu.net)
- Mon, Mar 01, 1999 at 04:55:40 (PST)
DRAT!!! I THINK WE SHOULD PLAN A HENRY ROLLINS
BOYCOT OR PERHAPS START A WAR WITH ANY HENRY ROLLINS SIGHTS. I THINK HE'S JUST MAD CAUSE HIS FANS AREN'T AS LOYAL AS WE ARE TO THE MOZ.
jake lyell <[email protected]> (spider-te012.proxy.aol.com)
- Mon, Mar 01, 1999 at 17:22:23 (PST)
I am commenting about the obnoxious character known as Henry Rollins. I refer to him as a character because that is all he is. A man who cannot feel? Would that be Henry Rollins? I'm sorry maybe he can feel. I was driving to work and my "friend" had the new Henry Rollins album. My review was there was a lot of spoken dialoge. For the course of his latest and all of the rest of his catalogue I forgot that I was listening to an album. His attempts at music sound like one troubled catalog filled with self-help tapes. In my opinion Henry Rollins is a motivational speaker who cannot find a job. Therefore, he talks music. The world's most popular music talker. It would be certain in a contest of wit. Moz would gently prevail. But, then again Moz is a little too clever to participate in contests. I believe Henry Rollins should take a firm look at his fans before he bashes Morrissey fans. I once read an article that painted a lush picture of Morrissey fans that go out to the concerts. The journalist spoke about a group of people who stayed indoors a good deal of the time and shyed away from the mainstream. These people would see both the humour and sadness in Morrisseys' lyrics and feel like there is a place where they belong. I remember being in high school and finding a cassette of Your Arsenal for one dollar at a discount store. I usually did not purchase music however, I recalled children at my school badmouthing this "Morrissey." I had never heard him before. I went home and plugged in my walkman and by the time I got to "I Know It's Gonna Happen Someday" I was in tears of joy. Finally, music that speaks honestly and from the heart. Soon, I was enjoying life again and searching stores everywhere for anything that I could find on the Smiths and Morrissey (albums, singles, bootlegs, imports). Currently, I only lack a Malajusted tour live bootleg and the single Interlude w/ Siouxie and the Banshees. Now, to Henry Rollins. What are your fans like? They might be frat boys, or jock/airheads but, you do sell albums. Or maybe just the ones with that one hit on it. Are your fans loyal Henry? Regardless, I am not one to poke fun of people. But, in my youth you either liked Morrissey or Henry Rollins. I liked Morrissey and it inspired me to see the humour in music and because of that I like countless other bands. If I grew up a Henry Rollins fan I may like Black Flag and I would also be out right now at the local discount store purchasing handfuls of Pantera, Marilyn Mansen, Nine Inch Nails, TLC, and oh yeah Sugar Ray. Instead, I'm purchasing XTC, Brian Eno, Tom Waits, Sparks, Bauhaus, David Byrne, Frank Black, David Bowie, Underworld, Aphex Twin, Erasure, Belle and Sebastion, Cluster, Joy Division, Kraftwerk, etc. I may be a little addicted to music. But, I'm having fun and I am currently composing and writing my own music. Kind of like that old saying..."few people "listened" to Velvet Underground but, those who did went out and formed their own band." Thank you Morrissey for producing heart enduring music that matters. Thank you Henry Rollins for making music that I did not spend my money on. You saved me money Henry Rollins and with that money I went right out and bought the latest Morrissey single "Satan Rejected My Soul." I'm listening to these beautiful B-sides right now whilst, listening to the album "Another Green World" by Brian Eno and drawing with my pastels and oh, yes I am wearing my "There Is A Light That Never Goes Out" T-shirt. My advice to little Henry R. Go out and buy (with the money you receive from classic rock radio) a copy of the Smiths debut album and a copy of Your Arsenal and enjoy. Also, the VHS tape Introducing Morrissey is beautiful, you can buy that after you become a Morrissey fan. Until then, don't forget to keep eating your pebbles. Once, again thank you Morrissey and I eagerly anticipate another album in the future. But, Morrissey get some rest first and enjoy your life. Your fans love you!!!! - Brian Moreno from San Antonio, TX currently attending U.T.S.A.
- Mon, Mar 01, 1999 at 19:06:25 (PST)
Brian Moreno I Have to say your post was the most sincere of them all and i whole heartedly agree. If it was not for a old freind and a Ex-Girlfreind i might have missed out on the Music that has such feeling and truth in it, and that would have been a shame. Congrat's to you and your Collection i am sure that the true morrissey fans out there love you for it and are jealous at the sametime.
"to die by your side is such a heavenly way to die"
Baali <[email protected]> (hybrid-199-132.phoenix.speedchoice.com)
- Sat, Mar 13, 1999 at 02:49:45 (PST)