"Morrissey granted the Keys to the City by the mayor of Tel-Aviv; ticket sales information" - true-to-you.net

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Another shameless ploy to get a recording contract.

Has it ever occurred to Morrissey, that if he produces a good, solid record with hits--and not material that his loyalists only seem to enjoy--he will be with contract and promotion? And true to you won't have to point out how incredible it is to out sell Madonna and Bruce... In tel aviv... In Israel... At 5,000 seats or so. Soon, morrissey being able to sell out house of blues venues with little promotion and no record contract will be ground breaking.

I agree with Fan, but add I hope gets one.

Why does Morrissey refuse to even attend award shows, then accepts a meaningless key to the city from Tel-Aviv. Surely, it only means something real if the recipient has spent a long time in the place, or done something for the city? Really, only Manchester should grant this award.

true-to-you or the promoter have their information wrong. Madonna did not perform at Bitan 1. Just looks like another stab of jealousy from the Morrissey camp.

Morrissey has become a 'heritage act' like Paul MCartney, the Who, Duran Duran, the Cure etc. He can attract a pretty large live audience but only 5% of them are interested in anything he's done since the 80s (with the exception of IBEH and FOTG).
If Morrissey wonders why he hasn't got a deal, all he needs to do is compare the audience reaction after singing There is a light, Every day is like Sunday, I know it's over, with the reaction after People are the same everywhere. He can potentially rescue his status from heritage act level but only with a cracking set of new songs.

Something is a bit off with the figures quoted in the TTY statement. I hate to knit pick, but, really...

(Madonna's) tour began in Israel on May 31 with a crowd of 33,457 in attendance for the first performance. The inaugural concert was held at Israel's largest football venue, Ramat Gan Stadium in Tel Aviv with revenue topping $4.3 million (US$).

I think 33,000 is slightly more than 5000.

http://www.billboard.com/events/roge...07586552.story
http://www.shalomlife.com/culture/17...ans-in-israel/

Also, Bruce Springsteen has never performed in Israel (as of yet). Promoters were discussing something last fall for this June (at the same stadium Madonna performed at), but the plans fell through.
http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/why-j...e-springsteen/



It's hard to think that his PR people could post such inaccurate statements. I mean, five minutes of Internet research could tell you this stuff. It seems it could be a bit embarrassing for Morrissey if it's not corrected by the TTY peeps and it were to get out into the regular press.
I understand that he is proud of how his show is selling, but come on...

Or maybe I'm just missing something behind the scenes?

Originally Posted by Fan

Another shameless ploy to get a recording contract.

1st comment & yes,this is exactly what morrissey solo is all about,seriously,all genuine morrissey fans should leave morrissey solo to it: just waiting to stick the knife in. I hope he gets a deal as soon as possible,to shut up all the haters & backbiters on here. (even though he probably wont) as ive said:sad.

Originally Posted by Brandi_Most

Something is a bit off with the figures quoted in the TTY statement. I hate to knit pick, but, really...



I think 33,000 is slightly more than 5000.

http://laremix.com/music-review/hot-...-jackson-tour/
http://www.shalomlife.com/culture/17...ans-in-israel/

Also, Bruce Springsteen has never performed in Israel (as of yet). Promoters were discussing something last fall for this June (at the same stadium Madonna performed at), but the plans fell through.
http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/why-j...e-springsteen/



It's hard to think that his PR people could post such inaccurate statements. I mean, five minutes of Internet research could tell you this stuff. It seems it could be a bit embarrassing for Morrissey if it's not corrected by the TTY peeps and it were to get out into the regular press.
I understand that he is proud of how his show is selling, but come on...

Or maybe I'm just missing something behind the scenes?

Morrissey thanks you for ruining his attempt at impressing record labels.

I missed this thread posted by MORRIZSEY yesterday so it was created separately instead of being promoted to the main page as an article. The two threads have now been merged.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

1st comment & yes,this is exactly what morrissey solo is all about,seriously,all genuine morrissey fans should leave morrissey solo to it: just waiting to stick the knife in. I hope he gets a deal as soon as possible,to shut up all the haters & backbiters on here. (even though he probably wont) as ive said:sad.

Okay, so here is the deal. Not to say that the following makes me an expert on Morrissey or anything, but I feel like it gives me some freedom to comment and to make observations about his career, as at one time I was a rather devoted fan.

I am almost forty-five, and the first "new wave" song that I ever heard was "How Soon is Now?" This song was on a tape that included other bands including The Cure, New Order, and other standards. However, Morrissey's voice and lyrics stuck with me, and I was hooked. I became a follower--a disciple--for many years, having traveled to many different states to see him. I purchased his releases on vinyl and on CD, and everyone who knew me was aware of this.

Flash forward to now, where Morrissey and I are now.

His recent releases have been anything but good; a decent song here or there, but nothing that compares to the older material--no way. What bothers me the most is that he allows (or is part of) such garbage as what goes on at another site. When did it stop becoming about the music? When did the music get replaced by drag queen guitarists and half-dressed band members? Sure, they used to wear the same shirts, but that is not extreme. The constant bashing of this site and anyone who is critical of him is ridiculous. Morrissey is losing/has lost his credibility as a relevant artist, and if he desires to be taken seriously by the big record companies, he needs to get back to his roots--eliminate or have the garbage site closed and become creative again. If he is signed by a record company, it is most likely a small one with minimal/limited funds.

I am done--I am not looking for bashing, just some dialogue. I expect many to disagree, but I needed to air my feelings.

Cheers!

Originally Posted by Fan

Okay, so here is the deal. Not to say that the following makes me an expert on Morrissey or anything, but I feel like it gives me some freedom to comment and to make observations about his career, as at one time I was a rather devoted fan.

I am almost forty-five, and the first "new wave" song that I ever heard was "How Soon is Now?" This song was on a tape that included other bands including The Cure, New Order, and other standards. However, Morrissey's voice and lyrics stuck with me, and I was hooked. I became a follower--a disciple--for many years, having traveled to many different states to see him. I purchased his releases on vinyl and on CD, and everyone who knew me was aware of this.

Flash forward to now, where Morrissey and I are now.

His recent releases have been anything but good; a decent song here or there, but nothing that compares to the older material--no way. What bothers me the most is that he allows (or is part of) such garbage as what goes on at another site. When did it stop becoming about the music? When did the music get replaced by drag queen guitarists and half-dressed band members? Sure, they used to wear the same shirts, but that is not extreme. The constant bashing of this site and anyone who is critical of him is ridiculous. Morrissey is losing/has lost his credibility as a relevant artist, and if he desires to be taken seriously by the big record companies, he needs to get back to his roots--eliminate or have the garbage site closed and become creative again. If he is signed by a record company, it is most likely a small one with minimal/limited funds.

I am done--I am not looking for bashing, just some dialogue. I expect many to disagree, but I needed to air my feelings.

Cheers!

But how do you know its a ploy,a shameless 1 at that,to air getting the keys to city? How do you know morrissey deliberately aired this personally on TTY? its just pure bad conjucture on your behalf.Think about what your saying..Morrissey: Yes,il show myself recieving keys to the city from a mayor...so as to get a record deal..i don't think so.

Originally Posted by Fan

Okay, so here is the deal. Not to say that the following makes me an expert on Morrissey or anything, but I feel like it gives me some freedom to comment and to make observations about his career, as at one time I was a rather devoted fan.

I am almost forty-five, and the first "new wave" song that I ever heard was "How Soon is Now?" This song was on a tape that included other bands including The Cure, New Order, and other standards. However, Morrissey's voice and lyrics stuck with me, and I was hooked. I became a follower--a disciple--for many years, having traveled to many different states to see him. I purchased his releases on vinyl and on CD, and everyone who knew me was aware of this.

Flash forward to now, where Morrissey and I are now.

His recent releases have been anything but good; a decent song here or there, but nothing that compares to the older material--no way. What bothers me the most is that he allows (or is part of) such garbage as what goes on at another site. When did it stop becoming about the music? When did the music get replaced by drag queen guitarists and half-dressed band members? Sure, they used to wear the same shirts, but that is not extreme. The constant bashing of this site and anyone who is critical of him is ridiculous. Morrissey is losing/has lost his credibility as a relevant artist, and if he desires to be taken seriously by the big record companies, he needs to get back to his roots--eliminate or have the garbage site closed and become creative again. If he is signed by a record company, it is most likely a small one with minimal/limited funds.

I am done--I am not looking for bashing, just some dialogue. I expect many to disagree, but I needed to air my feelings.

Cheers!

i understand some of what your saying..,but when you say eliminate,eliminate who? boz,his most loyal musician before johnny marr or alain whyte,or also a 6yr bandmember,jesse tobias...or eliminate the fact that he doesn't need to perform for money or the last 8yrs touring his ass off & working. Morrissey is human like anybody else so he cant please 100% of the time. Y O R & ROTT from a couple of yrs back,were decent albums & after 30+ years he's entitled to play the way he wishes to please his fans. Im 43 myself & i first heard WDDIM in a dance called the oasis,back in 1983.Here on morrisseysolo im just a casual observer,but each time i load this site,im met with threads full of people that really have come to abhor everything morrissey does or says. I know not everybody feels this way,but morrisseysolo has become a website against him,even though he shouldn't have commented lately on morrisseysolo,he wouldn't be morrissey if he didn't. He is doing well considering his ups & downs over the past few decades imo.

Originally Posted by Fan

Okay, so here is the deal. Not to say that the following makes me an expert on Morrissey or anything, but I feel like it gives me some freedom to comment and to make observations about his career, as at one time I was a rather devoted fan.

I am almost forty-five, and the first "new wave" song that I ever heard was "How Soon is Now?" This song was on a tape that included other bands including The Cure, New Order, and other standards. However, Morrissey's voice and lyrics stuck with me, and I was hooked. I became a follower--a disciple--for many years, having traveled to many different states to see him. I purchased his releases on vinyl and on CD, and everyone who knew me was aware of this.

Flash forward to now, where Morrissey and I are now.

His recent releases have been anything but good; a decent song here or there, but nothing that compares to the older material--no way. What bothers me the most is that he allows (or is part of) such garbage as what goes on at another site. When did it stop becoming about the music? When did the music get replaced by drag queen guitarists and half-dressed band members? Sure, they used to wear the same shirts, but that is not extreme. The constant bashing of this site and anyone who is critical of him is ridiculous. Morrissey is losing/has lost his credibility as a relevant artist, and if he desires to be taken seriously by the big record companies, he needs to get back to his roots--eliminate or have the garbage site closed and become creative again. If he is signed by a record company, it is most likely a small one with minimal/limited funds.

I am done--I am not looking for bashing, just some dialogue. I expect many to disagree, but I needed to air my feelings.

Cheers!

You framed your question as someone who has been a fan for, what, 25 years? Why would you expect him to be releasing songs as good as his older solo stuff or The Smiths? Which precedent is there, in the history of rock/pop music, that gives you reason to think he should still be putting out songs as good as, or even close to as good as, "How Soon Is Now"?

Not trying to bash your post, which is totally fine and respectable, I'm just curious about your expectations so I can get a better idea of why you're so disappointed.

not many fanbases last as long as morrisseys. Its the old story,he's lasted long enough to become the villain,any fan of 25+ yrs who all of a sudden reckon he no longer matters,was never a genuine fan to start with...these so-called fans want to see him be publicly scorned now or retire because they know better(yeah right),at least we know who we are...at this stage. People like uncleskinny who starts slagging then when called on it reckons its ok to slag him but not morrissey??even though he instigated the situation..or telling op's they have restraint even if the PERSON who said fuck morrisseysolo had not...who does this guy think he is? Anybody has a right to retort if their name is being mudded,& degrading comments being printed every few minutes on a website, for the whole world to see...to right to hit back.

Originally Posted by Fan

Okay, so here is the deal. Not to say that the following makes me an expert on Morrissey or anything, but I feel like it gives me some freedom to comment and to make observations about his career, as at one time I was a rather devoted fan.

I am almost forty-five, and the first "new wave" song that I ever heard was "How Soon is Now?" This song was on a tape that included other bands including The Cure, New Order, and other standards. However, Morrissey's voice and lyrics stuck with me, and I was hooked. I became a follower--a disciple--for many years, having traveled to many different states to see him. I purchased his releases on vinyl and on CD, and everyone who knew me was aware of this.

Flash forward to now, where Morrissey and I are now.

His recent releases have been anything but good; a decent song here or there, but nothing that compares to the older material--no way. What bothers me the most is that he allows (or is part of) such garbage as what goes on at another site. When did it stop becoming about the music? When did the music get replaced by drag queen guitarists and half-dressed band members? Sure, they used to wear the same shirts, but that is not extreme. The constant bashing of this site and anyone who is critical of him is ridiculous. Morrissey is losing/has lost his credibility as a relevant artist, and if he desires to be taken seriously by the big record companies, he needs to get back to his roots--eliminate or have the garbage site closed and become creative again. If he is signed by a record company, it is most likely a small one with minimal/limited funds.




I am done--I am not looking for bashing, just some dialogue. I expect many to disagree, but I needed to air my feelings.

Cheers!

I could have written that!!!!
I'm in the same age bracket and feel exactly the same way.

Originally Posted by davidt

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Bruce was never here.Madonna performed sold-out at the Ramat-Gan stadium which is 50,000 seats,not the 6000 of Bitan 1.

Truth should be made.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Bruce was never here.Madonna performed sold-out at the Ramat-Gan stadium which is 50,000 seats,not the 6000 of Bitan 1.

Truth should be made.

It was always Madonna's first show - opening her world tour, and at least 5,000 fans came from abroad, but Madonna also caters to 10 year-olds, so there really is no comparison.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

It was always Madonna's first show - opening her world tour, and at least 5,000 fans came from abroad, but Madonna also caters to 10 year-olds, so there really is no comparison.

Madonna caters to 10 year-olds? Since when?

Originally Posted by !Viva Hate!

Madonna caters to 10 year-olds? Since when?

I know kids are supposed to grow up fast, these days. But that is a little worrying.