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Originally Posted by Anonymous

Ray 'O' - Chicago, but staying in Prickwillow Road, Ely, Cambridgeshire, England - staying with a friend who is a HUGE Moz fan.

Two problems with that, 'Ray'. Firstly, there are no houses on that road, and secondly, you now appear to be in West Sussex. Make your mind up. Deary me.

P.

Originally Posted by goinghome

Isn't this more a reflection of personal values that's a bit over-simplistic, like saying that criticism is always evidence of goodness and sincerity and courtesy is always bad and worthless? Other intentions are equally likely to be at play.

There is a big difference however between flattering Morrissey on one hand and ridiculing others for the same things that Morrissey is doing or saying. It shows that your flattering Morrissey isn't sincere. If you really loved what he was doing and saying you would not find it wrong in other people and attack them massively. Instead a lot of you lot spend an awful lot of time attacking others for supposedly attacking Morrissey for no real reason other than to appear like those devoted fans who love and adore Morrissey no matter what. Why the big difference? Because the one person sings songs while others type their words on an internet forum? Because the one person is in the media, rich and staying in five star hotels, is in the charts and stands in front of a crowd of people and television cameras while you do not know anything about the others who are typing their words on an internet forum? Or in regards to "fans", how sincere is it to be overly nice to certain people because they appear to be Morrissey favourites while others cannot be bothered to play the Morrissey card and desire to be more liked for being themselves than for being liked by Morrissey?

Originally Posted by Uncleskinny

Two problems with that, 'Ray'. Firstly, there are no houses on that road, and secondly, you now appear to be in West Sussex. Make your mind up. Deary me.

P.

You told me I was in Cambridgeshire and now you're telling me I'm in West Sussex. Please tell me which one it is I should be in because my feet are getting tired moving about.

Ray O'Lite Chicago/Cambridgeshire/West Sussex

Originally Posted by davidt

You made the statement about Morrissey being 'endlessly attacked' on the site and of the 2 million or so posts cannot find a few to back up your claim? I asked you to pick a few posts and what actions you would take and instead of offering a solution you become combative. It is clear there is no point in carrying this on further as you have proven to be one of the types that sits around moaning about how things are rather than actually doing anything.

David, once again you have missed the point. YOU are banned by Morrissey because of the way you run your site. I didn't start this debate for any other reason than to try and help you see the reason WHY you are banned.

Ray - somewhere under the rain cloud.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

David, once again you have missed the point. YOU are banned by Morrissey because of the way you run your site. I didn't start this debate for any other reason than to try and help you see the reason WHY you are banned.

Ray - somewhere under the rain cloud.

David is banned because he hosts a site where users have the freedom to say Morrissey's new songs and new band are shit if they feel it. Period. Now fuck off.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You told me I was in Cambridgeshire and now you're telling me I'm in West Sussex. Please tell me which one it is I should be in because my feet are getting tired moving about.

Ray O'Lite Chicago/Cambridgeshire/West Sussex

All right buddy, I can see your game, but to answer your question, you're somewhere between Bognor Regis and Chichester.

G'night Dunc.

P.

Originally Posted by davidt

You made the statement about Morrissey being 'endlessly attacked' on the site and of the 2 million or so posts cannot find a few to back up your claim? I asked you to pick a few posts and what actions you would take and instead of offering a solution you become combative. It is clear there is no point in carrying this on further as you have proven to be one of the types that sits around moaning about how things are rather than actually doing anything.

Here is one of MANY posts on this website that is absolutely SICKENING: http://www.morrissey-solo.com/thread...post1986685495

This is what Boz gets? After being in the band for so many years, giving us songs such as "Now My Heart Is Full" and "The More You Ignore Me..." etc. This, David is what you call acceptable for a website dedicated to Morrissey (which includes his band because without whom, we would have nothing). I have also seen people say on this very website HORRIBLE things about Boz' wife. You are a sick fucking bunch.

David, you are so delusional. I reported a post for being "troll" some time ago where someone was reporting that they saw Morrissey with an underage boy in Spain while we all knew he was in the UK at that time. You are totally disgusting in what you are doing. You actually gave me an infraction for "abusing the report post" function. Are you serious? You don't confirm ANY facts EVER. You are pathetic. AND THEN, you know full well that !Viva Hate! is posting under nothappynotsad who has said horrible things about Morrissey (just look through his posts) as well as troll this website FOR YEARS. You refuse to see reality and the facts and you think because you have your goons like UncleTouchesSkinnyBoys support you, you think you're OK, you're not. THAT, is why you're banned. You are a joke. I used to have respect for you, but as I saw you turn to be a Morrissey hater, you yourself, turned into a complete joke.

Originally Posted by nothappynotsad

David is banned because he hosts a site where users have the freedom to say Morrissey's new songs and new band are shit if they feel it. Period. Now fuck off.

Dear Donald Duck, once again you resort to insults because you are unable to debate. You believing that David is banned just because of criticism of new songs, shows that you are clearly out of your depth in this debate, so perhaps you should leave it to the bosses.

Ray O Sunshine - as my high school maths teacher used to call me - Bognor.

Originally Posted by Uncleskinny

All right buddy, I can see your game, but to answer your question, you're somewhere between Bognor Regis and Chichester.

G'night Dunc.

P.

I can assure you I have no game for you to see, but thank you for TELLING me WHERE I am and WHO I am.

Ray 'Dunc' O'Lite - Chicago/Cambridgeshire/Somewhere between Bognor Regis and Chichester - it's been a busy day of travel.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Here is one of MANY posts on this website that is absolutely SICKENING: http://www.morrissey-solo.com/thread...post1986685495

You sound like those people who protested Mapplethorpe.

No violation - it's an art thread.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Dear Donald Duck, once again you resort to insults because you are unable to debate. You believing that David is banned just because of criticism of new songs, shows that you are clearly out of your depth in this debate, so perhaps you should leave it to the bosses.

Ray O Sunshine - as my high school maths teacher used to call me - Bognor.

Debate? Is this a debate? Debating you would be like getting in a boxing match with a 2-year-old! It ceased to be a debate when you refused to back up anything you said with factual evidence.

David IS banned because he allowed a forum for people to universally criticize his new material and new band.

Reports of Morrissey not paying his crew or band on the 2002 tour. Legal threat.
Anonymous comment leaking Morrissey penned e-mail. Legal threat.
ROTT, Greatest Hits, YOR, Hollywood Bowl, Kit leaked. No action.
New songs debut and a majority of people hate them - Fuck Morrissey-Solo t-shirts worn, Davidt gets banned.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Here is one of MANY posts on this website that is absolutely SICKENING: http://www.morrissey-solo.com/thread...post1986685495

The only thing sickening about that post is the fact it involves a 300+ lbs nude man with a single over his genitals.

This is what Boz gets?

He did it to himself...unless you are suggesting that putting him on a crucifix is somehow sickening...which, if you are, makes you an idiot.

After being in the band for so many years, giving us songs such as "Now My Heart Is Full" and "The More You Ignore Me..." etc.

He's also given us songs like 'That's How People Grow Up' and 'The Slum Mums'.

This, David is what you call acceptable for a website dedicated to Morrissey

If it didn't violate the TOS, it is acceptable.

(which includes his band because without whom, we would have nothing).

Yeah, his current band have given him a lot, haven't they? A handful of shit songs and no record contract. Sounds like your average garage band.

I have also seen people say on this very website HORRIBLE things about Boz' wife.

Links or it didn't happen.

You are a sick fucking bunch.

You're one to talk considering the contents of all those Facebook messages you sent me.

David, you are so delusional. I reported a post for being "troll" some time ago where someone was reporting that they saw Morrissey with an underage boy in Spain while we all knew he was in the UK at that time. You are totally disgusting in what you are doing. You actually gave me an infraction for "abusing the report post" function. Are you serious?

So, you're a banned user, eh? Get over it.

You don't confirm ANY facts EVER. You are pathetic.

You're the one going around whining about a forum you were banned from and you're calling him pathetic?!

AND THEN, you know full well that !Viva Hate! is posting under nothappynotsad

Prove it.

who has said horrible things about Morrissey (just look through his posts) as well as troll this website FOR YEARS.

I can almost hear the violin playing in the background.

You refuse to see reality and the facts and you think because you have your goons like UncleTouchesSkinnyBoys support you, you think you're OK, you're not. THAT, is why you're banned. You are a joke.

U mad?

I used to have respect for you, but as I saw you turn to be a Morrissey hater, you yourself, turned into a complete joke.

I'm sure he's all broken up inside to have fallen from grace in your eyes.

Originally Posted by davidt

You sound like those people who protested Mapplethorpe.

No violation - it's an art thread.

He also sounds like the type of guy who would go on Facebook, copy and paste link locations to Boz concerning negative reactions to his new songs, tell him the band should wear a t-shirt that says "Fuck Morrissey-Solo.com" and then come back on here to brag about it. Oh, wait. Nevermind.

Morrissey likes to change his mind!!!!

Originally Posted by nothappynotsad

He also sounds like the type of guy who would go on Facebook, copy and paste link locations to Boz concerning negative reactions to his new songs, tell him the band should wear a t-shirt that says "Fuck Morrissey-Solo.com" and then come back on here to brag about it. Oh, wait. Nevermind.

Oooh, oooh, I know who it is! Pick me, pick me!!

I was just listening to "Disappointed" & it made me laugh in context of this discussion:

"This is the last song I will ever sing
No I've changed my mind again
Goodnight and thank you"

I also recently stumbled upon this neat mash up of that same song w/ Jay Z's "99 Problems":
http://soundcloud.com/dove_three/jay...ey-99-problems
Pretty cool?!

Originally Posted by davidt

You made the statement about Morrissey being 'endlessly attacked' on the site and of the 2 million or so posts cannot find a few to back up your claim? I asked you to pick a few posts and what actions you would take and instead of offering a solution you become combative. It is clear there is no point in carrying this on further as you have proven to be one of the types that sits around moaning about how things are rather than actually doing anything.

You were saying?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Moz is such a shady little shit. So he's playing Bellingham, WA? Interesting, as that town has a mere few thousand people, hardly a city with enough clout or culture to beckon an so-so famous English Indie rocker. But funny thing.... the Canadian border, and the metro Vancouver, Canada area is just a few minutes drive away! Wow! Morrissey gets to diss Canada while still getting the love and money from its people! More interesting still? He's playing Niagara Falls, NY, which has only 50,000 people and couldn't ever possibly get a star of Morrissey's calibre on its own, but seeing as how it's only an hr or so from Toronto, Canada (with a metro of 5.8 million) once again Morrissey gets to slam Canada and continue his boycott knowing full well his Niagarta Falls show will be full of Toronto fans, spending Canadian money, on him. So he wins on all fronts. He still gets to look like he's protesting the Canadian Government and shutting out his Canadian fans while at the same time accepting crowds that will undoubtedly be 90% Canadian, and taking their money willingly, with a greedy grin. Asshole.

This ^^ anonymous post made it through, while on Friday and over the weekend 3 or 4 anonymous posts I wrote criticizing this site, and specifically Kewpie in one, did NOT make it past the moderator check. It was a little experiment which played out pretty much as I suspected. You are a liar if you say that this site is moderated fairly and not balanced in favor of criticizing Morrissey.

Originally Posted by juno

You were saying?


This ^^ anonymous post made it through, while on Friday and over the weekend 3 or 4 anonymous posts I wrote criticizing this site, and specifically Kewpie in one, did NOT make it past the moderator check. It was a little experiment which played out pretty much as I suspected. You are a liar if you say that this site is moderated fairly and not balanced in favor of criticizing Morrissey.

That post is someone's opinion. You may not like it, you may disagree with it, but it's their opinion. Some may agree with it. There's nothing actionable there at all. It seems to me you want opinions that you don't agree with censored.

P.

Originally Posted by juno

3 or 4 anonymous posts I wrote

Originally Posted by davidt

Let's use real world examples - pick a few posts from the last week or so. Describe in detail what action you would take regarding the posts if you had the choice. Would you edit them or delete them altogether?

2 examples

A) http://www.morrissey-solo.com/thread...and-the-NME%29

B) Tim Jonzes spouts nothing on twittter and it makes the front page - why? We already had a thread about the NME apology. He added nothing new and is clearly not a reliable source. This blantantly discredited journalist tweets that the NME had nothing to apologies for and you put that on the front page on the day Morrissey is making headlines all over the world