• Exclusive Stephen Street interview on Viva Hate remastering and getting back with Moz - Louder Than War

    Stephen Street – exclusive interview - Louder Than War
    By Fergal Kinney

    Stephen Street interview on Viva Hate, getting back with Moz, why 'Ordinary Boys' was dropped and much, much more

    "I knew that if it all went badly I would be one of the most unpopular people in the country"

    "So I was thinking “Right, we’re really finding out feet now”, but around then I realised that you can never really relax with Morrissey and...."

    "I think it came as a shock to him but he was pleased..."

    "As far as I’m concerned, the album should not have been changed. I kind of argued this with Morrissey..."
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    Comments 19 Comments
    1. johnson's Avatar
      johnson -
      i denounce

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    1. Anonymous's Avatar
      Anonymous -
      "There’s also a big chunk of ‘Late Night, Maudlin Street’ that’s been taken off, and I’m really not happy about that."

      Did they replace it with a Jesse Tobias solo?

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    1. Thesmithsmorrissey's Avatar
      Thesmithsmorrissey -
      Wow, am I really reading this?

      so not only is Morrissey at fault for giving "Ordinary Boys" the chop, but he's hatcheting the album's best song now, too?

      I am definitely not buying after reading this

      fuck this joke of a re-issue.

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    1. 2-J's Avatar
      2-J -
      Morrissey has officially gone mad.

      Mutilating the beautiful Late Night, Maudlin Street.

      He should be ashamed.

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    1. stew77's Avatar
      stew77 -
      Agree with 2-J, Maudlin Street was perfect as it was. Ordinary Boys was one of my favourites on Viva - One of those songs that took a while for me to 'get' and then love. Interested to hear the re-mastering though - In Steven Streets good hands, It's bound be an upgrade.

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    1. Anonymous's Avatar
      Anonymous -
      I think I prefer my version of Viva Hate. It has the long version of Maudlin Street and Ordinary Boys in place of the Treat me like a human being demo.

      btw these new string codes are fkn annoying!

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    1. Anonymous's Avatar
      Anonymous -
      I do agree that it's disappointing that Ordinary Boys is gone and Maudlin Street has been edited, but as Kate Bush said when she released her Director's Cut album: it's not as though the original Viva Hate will disappear as soon as the remastered version is played. We've just got alternatives. Life isn't so bad. Actually Kate bush didn't say those exact words, but you get my point....

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    1. Anonymous's Avatar
      Anonymous -
      Moz lays turd on crown jewels.

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    1. Anonymous's Avatar
      Anonymous -
      Quote Originally Posted by Anonymous View Post
      I do agree that it's disappointing that Ordinary Boys is gone and Maudlin Street has been edited, but as Kate Bush said when she released her Director's Cut album: it's not as though the original Viva Hate will disappear as soon as the remastered version is played. We've just got alternatives. Life isn't so bad. Actually Kate bush didn't say those exact words, but you get my point....
      Are you sure about this? Usually when record companies re-release a remastered version of the album, it becomes the standard. The old, alleged "inferior" CDs quickly go out of print.

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    1. FROSTY's Avatar
      FROSTY -
      There are a ton of copies of Viva hate (the first pressing) floating around so we'll all be able to have a copy and then some... I have to agree that is seems sacrilegious to me to alter this album in any way other than 'cleaning' and 'enhancing' previous masters... BUT it's not my album its Morrissey's ... and he can be (and usually is) as insane as he wishes to be

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      Anonymous -
      If anyone was hoping for a Morrissey / Street collab in the future.... this interview killed it.

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    1. goinghome's Avatar
      goinghome -
      Street's reported as 'taking swipe at Morrissey' in recent interview - http://www.contactmusic.com/news/str...rissey_1297419

      Stephen Street has produced the Cranberries new album, Fire and Soul - http://www.irishcentral.com/story/en...140291993.html

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    1. Anonymous's Avatar
      Anonymous -
      Quote Originally Posted by FROSTY View Post
      There are a ton of copies of Viva hate (the first pressing) floating around so we'll all be able to have a copy and then some... I have to agree that is seems sacrilegious to me to alter this album in any way other than 'cleaning' and 'enhancing' previous masters... BUT it's not my album its Morrissey's ... and he can be (and usually is) as insane as he wishes to be
      but it's not Morrissey's album. he only supplied the lyrics and the singing. he provided no more to this album than he did to The Queen Is Dead or Strangeways.
      it's an absolute nonsens that he's allowed to mess with the music, when he's clearly so utterly musically-clueless himself.

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    1. As Soon As Now's Avatar
      As Soon As Now -
      This release sounds like a mess: Why change the cover/title font? Why delete - edit - and tack on an extra track? How hard would it have been to leave ALL the songs as is and then add the extra versions on the end?

      "Education In Reverse" seems very appropriate now!

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    1. Anonymous's Avatar
      Anonymous -
      Quote Originally Posted by As Soon As Now View Post
      This release sounds like a mess: Why change the cover/title font? Why delete - edit - and tack on an extra track? How hard would it have been to leave ALL the songs as is and then add the extra versions on the end?

      "Education In Reverse" seems very appropriate now!
      um...because it's HIS album. he can change the font and delete sections if he wants to.

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    1. shayde's Avatar
      shayde -
      this is disgusting.. dropping a song off a classic album and re-editing another classic. he should re-edit years of refusal or ringleaders of the tormentors- and take off the really embarrassingly bad tracks and make two ok eps. these are the songs he should be embarrassed by.

      rem said in one of their closing interviews that the songs once written no longer belong to them - but to the world.

      they existed with dignity and respect.

      morrissey is becoming a undignified joke by his decisions... stephen street is so right... he could learn a lot from REM and Street... he's an idiot for doing what he's doing and surrounding himself with bad idiotic musicians...

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    1. Anonymous's Avatar
      Anonymous -
      Quote Originally Posted by shayde View Post
      this is disgusting.. dropping a song off a classic album and re-editing another classic. he should re-edit years of refusal or ringleaders of the tormentors- and take off the really embarrassingly bad tracks and make two ok eps. these are the songs he should be embarrassed by.

      rem said in one of their closing interviews that the songs once written no longer belong to them - but to the world.

      they existed with dignity and respect.

      morrissey is becoming a undignified joke by his decisions... stephen street is so right... he could learn a lot from REM and Street... he's an idiot for doing what he's doing and surrounding himself with bad idiotic musicians...
      You're pathetic. Posting this gob of shite. Change the recourd already or just eject it as your penis ain't ejecting anything is it?.Your messages are all the same,responses to yourselves are all the same except to one who don't even post anymore.Won't post as you really are an embarrassment only to the voices in your head. So transparent. You is messy. Get off this website.

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    1. Thesmithsmorrissey's Avatar
      Thesmithsmorrissey -
      It's incredibly ironic how Morrissey foreshadowed his own self-parody for things like this in a song from 25 years ago:

      "Re-issue! Re-package! Re-package!
      Re-evaluate the songs
      Double-pack with a photograph
      Extra Track (and a tacky badge)

      but you could have said no
      if you'd wanted to

      Best of? Most of!
      Satiate the need
      slip them into different sleeves!
      Buy both, and be feel deceived
      climber - new entry, re-entry
      and when it fails to recoup?
      Well, maybe...
      You just haven't earned it yet, baby"

      That's pretty embarrassing, that's it's literally come to this.

      Also, I'm tired of hearing "Treat Me As a Human Being" labeled as an "unreleased" or "rare" track.

      This song was officially released on last year's pointless "Glamorous Glue" CD single, which is easily available for about two pounds in any record shop or online retailer. There is nothing rare or unreleased about it.

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    1. shayde's Avatar
      shayde -
      Quote Originally Posted by Anonymous View Post
      You're pathetic. Posting this gob of shite. Change the recourd already or just eject it as your penis ain't ejecting anything is it?.Your messages are all the same,responses to yourselves are all the same except to one who don't even post anymore.Won't post as you really are an embarrassment only to the voices in your head. So transparent. You is messy. Get off this website.
      wow im so threatened by your anonymous opinion. its good you keep anonymous too because your view is in the minority here - and also its a minority view in the world of art, film, music and literature that works of art should be meddled with once released to the public (see the fury of fans over George Lucas messing with Star Wars). In fact your 'opinion' is the walking embarrassing embodiment of why Socrates believed democracy is bad - because some people have such ill informed views that they are not worth listening to. especially stupid anonymous people

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