Morrissey Says 'The Only Perfect World For Animals Is A World Without Humans' - Huffington Post

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Morrissey Says 'The Only Perfect World For Animals Is A World Without Humans' - Huffington Post

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The Huffington Post will run a longer interview with Morrissey after his June 27 show at Madison Square Garden. If you're a fan looking to share why you love Moz or what his impact has been on you, please contact Lauren Duca at [email protected].



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Re: Article: Morrissey Says 'The Only Perfect World For Animals Is A World Without Humans' - Huffington post.

Says the man who's been noshing on cheese for the last thirty odd years !

Benny-the-British-Butcher
 
Re: Article: Morrissey Says 'The Only Perfect World For Animals Is A World Without Humans' - Huffington post.

Says the man who's been noshing on cheese for the last thirty odd years !

Benny-the-British-Butcher

Says the cheesy man who noshes on Mozza balls.
 
Re: Article: Morrissey Says 'The Only Perfect World For Animals Is A World Without Humans' - Huffington post.

Says the man who's been noshing on cheese for the last thirty odd years !

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Benny the Bore strikes again. And the world yawns.
 
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Go on! Be a role model and kill yourself, you prick.
 
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Go on! Be a role model and kill yourself, you prick.

I had to laugh... indeed, the logical conclusion would surely be that he should do this to make the world that little bit more perfect.
 
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In a just a few short years, this website has gone from being the place to go for Morrissey news and discussion (with occasional trollery) to a troll-saturated mess. The Hollow Men have taken over. Anonymity breeds... nothing so interesting as 'evil'. Rather, a particularly dreary kind of adolescent spitefulness. I can understand the need for masks when the target of ones ire is a powerful corporation or corrupt government but not when it's a pop star. Oh well.
 
In a just a few short years, this website has gone from being the place to go for Morrissey news and discussion (with occasional trollery) to a troll-saturated mess. The Hollow Men have taken over. Anonymity breeds... nothing so interesting as 'evil'. Rather, a particularly dreary kind of adolescent spitefulness. I can understand the need for masks when the target of ones ire is a powerful corporation or corrupt government but not when it's a pop star. Oh well.

Firstly, addressing today's Morrissey-by-numbers quote, we are animals. We're the King of the Swingers, and jolly good we are too. I suppose we could abdicate in favour of sharks and lions, but it doesn't auger well for dolphins or mountain gorillas. Morrissey the misanthrope is a strange creature, isn't he? Hates humans, travels the world to flog tickets so he can see some in their natural environment. If I'd made the money he has made I'd have bought an agreeably large house with an agreeably large wall thirty years ago. Instead he continues to slum it with the rest of us. It's almost as if he doesn't really believe what he's saying. Like a singing Jeremy Clarkson.

The Hollow Man is here, but he is Morrissey himself, who has simply given up on songwriting in favour of press releases and paranoid ramblings via email. WP was released a year ago, and recorded some months prior to that. Rumours then circulated of another album release in February of this year, and of many more songs straining at the leash for a label to release them. Not one new song has made it into the live show. Not a one. Doesn't that strike people as odd, particularly for an artist who is said to be desperately searching for a new label? For an animal rights activist to continue to flog a dead horse like the last album seems cruelty incarnate. Take it down the knackers yard where it belongs. Bang!

I was amazed by the picture published here the other day of Morrissey, on stage, and singing to a sparsely populated front row of old blokes. I never thought I'd see the day when what was once an almost religious experience, seeing the greatest lyricist of his generation was reduced to an end of the pier show flogging an album that doesn't really even exist. A vaudevillian shadow of his former self. It's tragic.

This is still the foremost place for Morrissey news, but there has been a significant change. Morrissey himself has ruined his reputation, first with moronic public pronouncements, and then with several increasingly poor albums culminating in the tuneless dross of World Peace, which garnered reasonable reviews but outside of his da base not a whisper of word of mouth from fans.

We need to face some harsh facts here. Morrissey once seemed ready to take his rightful place amongst the highest pantheon of late 20th Century songwriters. He could have been David Bowie. He became Gary Numan.
 
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Morrissey passed Bowie in greatness ages ago. Bowie knew that, thats why he called Morrissey a bell end. Their tour together proved that. Bowie could only wish to be as great as Morrissey. But i agree to an slight extent that Morrissey is sullying his great name with all the one note interviews and the lousy WPINOB and the forced "cleverness". But he has secured his place as one of the 20th centurys greatest lyricists. I think Morrissey needs to move back to London. He needs Londons challenges, musicians. Londons social climate works so well with Morrissey. He would find more interesting people and situations to bitch (god i love him) about and write brilliant songs :)

England suits Morrissey to the teeth even if he sort of despise England. Being "international" has made writing suffer a bit. He needs a better balance. Maybe not move but spend more time.
But Morrissey is at his worst better than most artist out there

PS what old blokes. At moz shows more than half are young
 
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Firstly, addressing today's Morrissey-by-numbers quote, we are animals. We're the King of the Swingers, and jolly good we are too. I suppose we could abdicate in favour of sharks and lions, but it doesn't auger well for dolphins or mountain gorillas. Morrissey the misanthrope is a strange creature, isn't he? Hates humans, travels the world to flog tickets so he can see some in their natural environment. If I'd made the money he has made I'd have bought an agreeably large house with an agreeably large wall thirty years ago. Instead he continues to slum it with the rest of us. It's almost as if he doesn't really believe what he's saying. Like a singing Jeremy Clarkson.

The Hollow Man is here, but he is Morrissey himself, who has simply given up on songwriting in favour of press releases and paranoid ramblings via email. WP was released a year ago, and recorded some months prior to that. Rumours then circulated of another album release in February of this year, and of many more songs straining at the leash for a label to release them. Not one new song has made it into the live show. Not a one. Doesn't that strike people as odd, particularly for an artist who is said to be desperately searching for a new label? For an animal rights activist to continue to flog a dead horse like the last album seems cruelty incarnate. Take it down the knackers yard where it belongs. Bang!

I was amazed by the picture published here the other day of Morrissey, on stage, and singing to a sparsely populated front row of old blokes. I never thought I'd see the day when what was once an almost religious experience, seeing the greatest lyricist of his generation was reduced to an end of the pier show flogging an album that doesn't really even exist. A vaudevillian shadow of his former self. It's tragic.

This is still the foremost place for Morrissey news, but there has been a significant change. Morrissey himself has ruined his reputation, first with moronic public pronouncements, and then with several increasingly poor albums culminating in the tuneless dross of World Peace, which garnered reasonable reviews but outside of his da base not a whisper of word of mouth from fans.

We need to face some harsh facts here. Morrissey once seemed ready to take his rightful place amongst the highest pantheon of late 20th Century songwriters. He could have been David Bowie. He became Gary Numan.

Thanks for the lecture Grandpa. Who do you think you are waxing lyrical on a Morrissey site? Ya ain't no Bertrand Russell honey pie!
 
Re: Article: Morrissey Says 'The Only Perfect World For Animals Is A World Without Humans' - Huffington post.

Morrissey passed Bowie in greatness ages ago. Bowie knew that, thats why he called Morrissey a bell end. Their tour together proved that. Bowie could only wish to be as great as Morrissey. But i agree to an slight extent that Morrissey is sullying his great name with all the one note interviews and the lousy WPINOB and the forced "cleverness". But he has secured his place as one of the 20th centurys greatest lyricists. I think Morrissey needs to move back to London. He needs Londons challenges, musicians. Londons social climate works so well with Morrissey. He would find more interesting people and situations to bitch (god i love him) about and write brilliant songs :)

England suits Morrissey to the teeth even if he sort of despise England. Being "international" has made writing suffer a bit. He needs a better balance. Maybe not move but spend more time.
But Morrissey is at his worst better than most artist out there

PS what old blokes. At moz shows more than half are young

These ones from the other night. It looks like a pharmacy counter.



I won't go too deeply into the Bowie argument save to say that all artists go through peaks and troughs, and God knows Bowie has. Only bands like the Beatles and the Smiths, neither of which stayed around long enough to go fully off the rails, are exempt. In the years since those bands split members who have released records have all had success and failure, but as Morrissey still considers himself a very, very important artist today it's only fair to think that perhaps he no longer quite knows where the zeitgeist is.

Morrissey is in a creative wasteland right now. The difference is that Bowie would release nonsense like Black Tie, White Noise without trying to kid the world it was the greatest thing he'd ever done. If he had he would have, like Morrissey, insulted the intelligence of his audience while hanging his greatest works out to dry. In lauding the average he would diminish the brilliant. By, for example, telling the world Years of Refusal was his greatest work Morrissey neatly alienated every fan with functioning ears, and caused many to wonder if the old chap had finally lost his marbles. The answer was yes, as we found out as the full horror of the situation became ever more apparent in the years following.
 
Although I almost always disagree with everything, Mr Barleycorn, you have to say, this kind of discussion is what's been largely absent from this site for too long now.

1. An absence of new material in a year or so means he's given-up on song-writing? Hope you didn't pull a muscle making that leap.
2. A single image of Morrissey singing to a less-than-heaving venue means Morrissey has been reduced to an end-of-pier act? Twang. There goes that hamstring.

But, yeah, Morrissey does have an annoying habit of making his point in the most offensive way possible a lot of the time. But I don't live my life according to Morrissey's opinions, and I've never had an almost-religious experience at a pop concert (not sure that's a reasonable, or healthy, bar to set). I just like the songs and the singing. And I loved the last album (it's a funny thing, taste). Everything else is just a distraction.
 
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Thanks for the lecture Grandpa. Who do you think you are waxing lyrical on a Morrissey site? Ya ain't no Bertrand Russell honey pie!

When you are intelligent enough to debate me please come back and try.
 
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These ones from the other night. It looks like a pharmacy counter.



That is an unfortunate photo. But trust me, alot of young ones Love the moz. I still think Morrissey is a important artist altough WPNOB made him sound clueless. But he will create ya like albums again. Plus the Smiths got him covered for life on the legendary legacy area. With the Smiths its as he married some one rich and stupid. He is set for life. But i think Morrissey need some (pardon My cliche) but soulsearching really. Maybe he decides he is leaving music and going into writing insted. Maybe music is over for him, he can't accept the industry or what it values. I agree with him. The business is runned by mental idiots

Give him a break, no one not even Morrissey and marr themself can recreate what the did in the Smiths. That was a period of divine songpartnership magic. But nevertheless a appreciate your insights barleycorn. You are honest even though i don't agree with you always. Especially on the "thank god white men are still the norm" comment :(

Were you a hardcore Smiths fan? I feel your pain, i miss the old Morrissey alot too. I'm not the biggest fan of late 2000s Morrissey musically really or personally(but that does not matter)

PS is that really a pic for this or yesterdays show? It seems a bit off. I know the place was packed but why is the front so empty. Must people mush up front!
 
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Although I almost always disagree with everything, Mr Barleycorn, you have to say, this kind of discussion is what's been largely absent from this site for too long now.

1. An absence of new material in a year or so means he's given-up on song-writing? Hope you didn't pull a muscle making that leap.
2. A single image of Morrissey singing to a less-than-heaving venue means Morrissey has been reduced to an end-of-pier act? Twang. There goes that hamstring.

But, yeah, Morrissey does have an annoying habit of making his point in the most offensive way possible a lot of the time. But I don't live my life according to Morrissey's opinions, and I've never had an almost-religious experience at a pop concert (not sure that's a reasonable, or healthy, bar to set). I just like the songs and the singing. And I loved the last album (it's a funny thing, taste). Everything else is just a distraction.

I've seen Morrissey perhaps eight or ten times, from Wembley, to Battersea, and numerous smaller venues. All were full to bursting. I saw the Smiths a couple of dozen times, from their early University dates to Kilburn and all points in between. All were packed.

You would never have guessed that such an artist would be reduced to peddling a disastrous record to small crowds in small venues in one horse towns. Lou Reed never found the need to do so.

Now, we know that when he returns to large cities he can get a decent crowd, so why is he putting himself through this nonsense? It can only be money, and the lack thereof. World Peace sold poorly, and his last big album sales wise was in 2004. He must now exist largely on his investments, should he have any, and his Smiths back catalogue.

I think it's a great shame. If he wasn't such an arsehole these days it would be sadder still.
 
But i have to say. Seeing picture or vids of early moz and the Smiths are just too painful for me. Its like looking at pictures of a dead loved one. I do think the old Morrissey was out of this world, not even an artist but a messiah of some sort. Its painfully obvious now that he is a artist/entertainer of the british sort :(
 
But i have to say. Seeing picture or vids of early moz and the Smiths are just too painful for me. Its like looking at pictures of a dead loved one. I do think the old Morrissey was out of this world, not even an artist but a messiah of some sort. Its painfully obvious now that he is a artist/entertainer of the british sort :(

Do you know what actually pains me the most? That people like you and Barleycunt go to book signings and concerts and Moz talks to you, shakes your hand gives you a hug, is nice to you and has no idea how you are talking about him. It's a disgrace. At least stay away.
 
I've seen Morrissey perhaps eight or ten times, from Wembley, to Battersea, and numerous smaller venues. All were full to bursting. I saw the Smiths a couple of dozen times, from their early University dates to Kilburn and all points in between. All were packed.

You would never have guessed that such an artist would be reduced to peddling a disastrous record to small crowds in small venues in one horse towns. Lou Reed never found the need to do so.

Now, we know that when he returns to large cities he can get a decent crowd, so why is he putting himself through this nonsense? It can only be money, and the lack thereof. World Peace sold poorly, and his last big album sales wise was in 2004. He must now exist largely on his investments, should he have any, and his Smiths back catalogue.

I think it's a great shame. If he wasn't such an arsehole these days it would be sadder still.

JB, I have to respectfully counter a few points here. First, if you look at the US tour schedule, it's clear that Morrissey is not playing 'one horse towns', unless LA, NYC, Philly, Chicago,and Atlanta are you idea of small, insignificant towns. Also, poor record sales hardly indicate a lack of quality; in a perfect world, commercial success would appropriately correlate to talent, but I think it's fair to say that pop music history has repeatedly shown that this usually isn't the case; and Morrissey has been complaining about not receiving adequate respect and attention from his industry since those golden years of the Smiths. So it seems, without record sales, Morrissey needs to tour, not just for financial security, but also to stay visible and relevant to his fans. I know that you have expressed dissatisfaction with World Peace, which is your right; however, many posters felt that it was a very strong record and a step back in the right direction for M.

As for the image of Morrissey trying to desperately tread water as he attempts to keep his career going, I can only speak from personal experience. I tried to get tickets for three venues in the current tour the minute the presales started, and it was chaos trying to get good seats; so the interest is definitely still there. Additionally, the shows I have attended have always been comprised of a fairly diverse audience. Yes, many are middle-age fans, but that's to be expected because most of these people have been with Morrissey since the early years; but, there are always a large number of younger people, usually college age, who have discovered both his solo work and the songs of the Smiths, and they are singing every word, just like the old folks do. Ideally, we should try not to attach age restrictions to enjoying art.

Does is make me a bit sad that Morrissey isn't the same artist he was twenty years ago: sometimes; but I'm nothing like I was then either, so it would be unfair and unrealistic to expect him to be frozen in time. Personally, I hope that a new record is on the horizon because I'm curious to see what ddirection he takes next.

lynnda
 

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