Fans discuss how they feel about Morrissey's tour cancellations - The List

cool though it didnt really say much about anything and i think only quoted two people (maybe three). i did read the review of world peace though which was kinda interesting. i never thought about oboe concerto and the circular rolling of the rrr's. i did however think about the line the rhythm of life goes round as the phonetics of the phrase and words are also kinda circular. "the" is straight ahead while "rhythm" ends in upward inflection. "of" is back down while "lifes" inflection goes back up while the word "goes" is down and back to straight ahead and finally round ends in the downward inflection. six words with two upward inflections and two downward inflections and two straight ahead for lack of a better term or a rewording. thast to me is neat even if unintentional though i think morrissey more a person these days to play with phonetic allusions than obvious literary devices such as puns or the like. sometimes i think morrisseys lyricism has really only gotten more mysterious and subtle in some ways and more direct in others. i think he now expects people to get things without the obvious wink we were used to which made us think we were perceptive and feel good about ourselves. just a thought
 
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The List has published an article about Morrissey's cancellations and has spoken to a few fans about how they feel about them:

Fans discuss how they feel about Morrissey's tour cancellations - The List
by Kirstyn Smith

It’s not a Morrissey tour without a cancellation or two. Kirstyn Smith talks to fans about how they feel
 
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twitter clickbait nameshaming article with no substance other than to generate a title that smears his name in the mud.
 
twitter clickbait nameshaming article with no substance other than to generate a title that smears his name in the mud.

He's more than capable of smearing his own name in the mud with his twitter clickbait nameshaming articles about the royals and beckham and the rest of it. It's apt that he's trolled by clickbait articles about his troll cancellation strategies.

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twitter clickbait nameshaming article with no substance other than to generate a title that smears his name in the mud.

Author here. Interesting take on the article.

A few things:

'Clickbait'. Yeah, sure. That's the point of writing online articles - to generate website traffic. The point of a headline and subheader are to ensure that people find them interesting enough to click on, while also maintaining the factual essence of what the article is about. There's nothing particular inflammatory here: it's an article written by a fan who finds the whole thing about Morrissey's frequent cancellations interesting and worth exploring. A good way to do this is to speak to the fans, who are the ones (apparently from Morrissey himself and his band) who are most affected.

'Nameshaming'. Not at all. The people I spoke to were all asked if they wanted to remain anonymous or not. The ones who did wish to remain anonymous (reasons being that 'there are some twisted fans out there' and 'I don't have time for their drama', incidentally) have clear indications next to their made up names that these names have been changed.

'No substance'. That's interesting. It's a difficult one for writers, particularly when there's a subject that's open to a lot of discussion, but is restricted, as all writing is, to a word count. This one was 650, but I clearly wrote a bit more than that and had to rein myself in as there was a lot more I wanted to say. It's just the nature of online journalism, I'm afraid. People aren't that into reading enormous article, the shorter or snappier/bitesized (think listicles on Buzzfeed and the like) the better. The areas of substance I tried to cover were: physical illness, mental illness and fans' opinions. These are all clearly covered in the article. Sure, there's no obvious conclusion, but that's because this is not a serious, investigative piece - it's a musing on why Morrissey cancels so much and why his fans are still as ardent as always. Another reason for no obvious conclusion is that nobody except Morrissey himself knows why he cancels so much. It's the lack of a genuine/consistent reason that annoys the fans (as stated in the article).

'Smearing his name in the mud'. Not really, I'm afraid. Everything on there is either a fact (the number of tour cancellations was taken from this very website) or an opinion from genuine fans who spend time and (a lot of) money going to see him. I've been cancelled on before, once the day before I was due to fly out to America to see him play, so I can understand the mixed emotions people feel, and thought others would feel the same. Let's be fair, he does and says enough to smear his own name in the mud.

Thanks for reading, though. Everyone will have their own take on it and I appreciate all points of view.
 
He's more than capable of smearing his own name in the mud with his twitter clickbait nameshaming articles about the royals and beckham and the rest of it. It's apt that he's trolled by clickbait articles about his troll cancellation strategies.

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Didn't you say goodbye sometime in Feb ? You were doing so well. An example. Even Benny was humbled. You claimed to have
reached a conclusion and that was that. You were off. So what happened ? Why the change of mind ?
 
in my 20+ years of seeing moz, he has only cancelled 2x. and one of those times he played 50 min away the previous night so at least i saw him that tour. the other time he came through the following year. i do have a strict 4 hr drive radius limit to see moz....so never really traveled that far to get cancelled on.
 
Had it been an investigative piece, rather than a speculative piece, it would have been worth your while to write. What's the point of a "musing"?

Author here. Interesting take on the article.

A few things:

'Clickbait'. Yeah, sure. That's the point of writing online articles - to generate website traffic. The point of a headline and subheader are to ensure that people find them interesting enough to click on, while also maintaining the factual essence of what the article is about. There's nothing particular inflammatory here: it's an article written by a fan who finds the whole thing about Morrissey's frequent cancellations interesting and worth exploring. A good way to do this is to speak to the fans, who are the ones (apparently from Morrissey himself and his band) who are most affected.

'Nameshaming'. Not at all. The people I spoke to were all asked if they wanted to remain anonymous or not. The ones who did wish to remain anonymous (reasons being that 'there are some twisted fans out there' and 'I don't have time for their drama', incidentally) have clear indications next to their made up names that these names have been changed.

'No substance'. That's interesting. It's a difficult one for writers, particularly when there's a subject that's open to a lot of discussion, but is restricted, as all writing is, to a word count. This one was 650, but I clearly wrote a bit more than that and had to rein myself in as there was a lot more I wanted to say. It's just the nature of online journalism, I'm afraid. People aren't that into reading enormous article, the shorter or snappier/bitesized (think listicles on Buzzfeed and the like) the better. The areas of substance I tried to cover were: physical illness, mental illness and fans' opinions. These are all clearly covered in the article. Sure, there's no obvious conclusion, but that's because this is not a serious, investigative piece - it's a musing on why Morrissey cancels so much and why his fans are still as ardent as always. Another reason for no obvious conclusion is that nobody except Morrissey himself knows why he cancels so much. It's the lack of a genuine/consistent reason that annoys the fans (as stated in the article).

'Smearing his name in the mud'. Not really, I'm afraid. Everything on there is either a fact (the number of tour cancellations was taken from this very website) or an opinion from genuine fans who spend time and (a lot of) money going to see him. I've been cancelled on before, once the day before I was due to fly out to America to see him play, so I can understand the mixed emotions people feel, and thought others would feel the same. Let's be fair, he does and says enough to smear his own name in the mud.

Thanks for reading, though. Everyone will have their own take on it and I appreciate all points of view.
 
Had it been an investigative piece, rather than a speculative piece, it would have been worth your while to write. What's the point of a "musing"?

An investigative piece is by definition a speculative piece. What's the point of your contribution to this web forum?

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Had it been an investigative piece, rather than a speculative piece, it would have been worth your while to write. What's the point of a "musing"?

I imagine you only read investigative journalism. Good for you!
 
He's more than capable of smearing his own name in the mud with his twitter clickbait nameshaming articles about the royals and beckham and the rest of it. It's apt that he's trolled by clickbait articles about his troll cancellation strategies.

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Oh, you're back then? Are you trying to match Morrissey's cancellations with the number of farewells you write and then renege on? Oh, the irony of these people who attack the devotion of fans while they themselves can't keep away from a website for more than 24 hours. And besides, if you truly believe he's "more than capable of smearing his own name", then why do you come here? Surely he's doing your job for you?
 
Had it been an investigative piece, rather than a speculative piece, it would have been worth your while to write. What's the point of a "musing"?
Right. And photojournalism, editorials, broadcast news, and the multitude of other forms of journalism outside of investigative reporting are all utterly pointless and of no merit whatsoever. :rolleyes:

The "point" of a piece of writing like this is to encourage discussion and debate and to explore a topic of interest relevant to the publication's theme (in this case, arts and entertainment). It doesn't need to be a hard-hitting exposé to be a worthwhile idea to pursue for an article.
 
Anyone who knows K, and there should be a few of you out there, knows that this piece would have been written from a fan perspective.
Cancellations have been a huge part of Morrissey tours and no doubt Morrissey will have cancelled on K (not just K you understand) on at least a few occasions. Why not ask other fans what they feel about it? It sure beats some of the non-fan belly-aching within this forum. K showed a little initiative and that of course means that forum bullies will put the boot in. What else have they got to do?
 
Author here. Interesting take on the article.

A few things:

'Clickbait'. Yeah, sure. That's the point of writing online articles - to generate website traffic.

If you think that's what writing is about, you're not a writer. You're a blogger (and a lazy one at that). A writer knows the difference is, a blogger does not.
 
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