Morrissey "likely" to be on Jonathan Ross's chat show soon, according to @wossy tweet

Quoting ACTON from the earlier thread on this subject:
"I don't blame Moz for feeling a bit deflated. He released a fantastic album (a 'monster' as he put it himself) and the radio stations are too dumb to play it, and there was no fanfare. He should have been on some TV shows but they were too dim witted to invite him. It really is a disgrace. His best album in years and probably only the die hards will know. That's no way to add to your audience.
And on the other hand you see mediocre shit or absolute offal making it onto the airwaves and having success even though the music is vile and the lead singers have the charisma of a dead donkey abandoned on the top of Croagh Patrick. The world is a strange place populated by boring sheep-people whose only desire is to be led through life by people thicker than themselves. Ah well, at least I have the 'World Peace' deluxe CD to cheer me up, and the prospect of a Moz concert in Ireland later in the year."

True ACTON.
Now buck up. At least you can get out of the house and get to Ireland. What treat waits for you, I wonder.


Morrissey released a fanstastic WPINOYB album.

Radio is dying - only the dance chart seems to be on Capital Radio Manchester UK at 8am in a morning on the early show. very selective, and they even have the same songs on at the same time, on different days. The shows are live every day and are not taped nor repeated.
No sign of GAGA and BENNETT on the radio this week either. Meanwhile GAGA strips off on Twitter and still gets no airplay with the new album !

Music sales are dying.

If his label had been doing what they were supposed to be doing, then Morrissey would have been on TV, interviewed in various
magazines (and not just the Irish) and probably been photographed with Gaga and Tony Bennett, if they had any sense (but they didn't) and they were harvested. It's sad but funny but sad. Sad because it is a better album that Strangeways Here We Come, by a long shot, in my opinion. That's how good it is. It's equally as good as V&I and that's a great album too.

Many "music" magazines are dying too.

There is no-one clever enough that has stayed to work at these places. The clever one's (from Morrissey's generation and from my generation) have all gone. They are writing novels, biographies and so on, in London, in Morecombe and in Manchester. Remaining staff are "towing the line" with the big labels. This week's phenonmenon is pushed. Totally ignoring last weeks or last years. Not heard one Artic Monkey's track lately on any radio station. Not heard one Keene song recently either. Nothing from the last BECK album. Nothing from the new PRIMITIVES album, not even the original "sunshine in my rainy day mind" nor any Gaga/Bennett. Madness (no pun intended.)

If Morrissey had been invited onto shows, would he have been playing OBOE, STAIRCASE, ISTANBUL ?
All of them ? All amazing songs. Imagine hearing these live in a small studio - -- - -- - - - !

I hope he does get onto Ross's tight schedule. Despite what you may read, hear, guess or even speculate, Morrissey is truly a great guy (REALLY.) Morrissey knows a lot about music too. Infact, he know's a HECK of a lot about music. Dumbo Journo's just seem to ask him the wrong questions. You could hit them sometimes for being so dumb.
Maybe they are in SHELLSHOCK (no pun intended) - possibly.

Meanwhile, "round round, the rhythm of life goes round" and ACTON deserves a few points for his post above and for buying the deluxe album.
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If this actually happens, I would doubt very much if he will do an interview. Almost certainly he will just do a song. My money would be on WPINOYB. Would be great to see Moz on Jools Holland too...he would have to play Staircase.
 
Anonymous said:
Despite what you may read, hear, guess or even speculate, Morrissey is truly a great guy (REALLY.) Morrissey knows a lot about music too. Infact, he know's a HECK of a lot about music. Dumbo Journo's just seem to ask him the wrong questions. You could hit them sometimes for being so dumb.
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If that is true, and I remember with particular fondness his interview on The South Bank Show in 1987 as an example of him at his wittiest and most erudite, what the hell has gone wrong?

It cannot just be silly journalists. It is true he has had his problems with being, if not misquoted, then misunderstood in print, but the Morrissey of today, bucking the trend once more, but this time in getting less wise as he gets older, is a self made construct. That is him, or part thereof. It is the face he alone chooses to present to the world.

He presents himself as, and I'm sorry to use the words that will follow him around until the grave, but they seem very apposite, truculent and unreliable. I've said before I would cross the road to avoid him. Off the top of my head I cannot think of a public figure I would rather avoid, and I'm including the Houses of Parliament.

I wanted World Peace to be a winner, but it turned out to be a melody free slog. I needed it to be an astounding return to the heights we know/knew he was capable of, because it was the only way I could forgive him the too numerous to mention examples of his ongoing spoken word imbecility.

That awful public persona is even infecting his older material for me now. I was listening to Shoplifters the other day, and as marvellous as it is, I still found myself thinking, "God, he's an idiot."

Morrissey's public relations are a disaster of his own making. Dimwit journalists merely record the event.
 
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What a complete load of shollocks, and you reduced the lifespan of your keyboard in the process.

Johnny Barleycorn said:
If that is true, and I remember with particular fondness his interview on The South Bank Show in 1987 as an example of him at his wittiest and most erudite, what the hell has gone wrong?

It cannot just be silly journalists. It is true he has had his problems with being, if not misquoted, then misunderstood in print, but the Morrissey of today, bucking the trend once more, but this time in getting less wise as he gets older, is a self made construct. That is him, or part thereof. It is the face he alone chooses to present to the world.

He presents himself as, and I'm sorry to use the words that will follow him around until the grave, but they seem very apposite, truculent and unreliable. I've said before I would cross the road to avoid him. Off the top of my head I cannot think of a public figure I would rather avoid, and I'm including the Houses of Parliament.

I wanted World Peace to be a winner, but it turned out to be a melody free slog. I needed it to be an astounding return to the heights we know/knew he was capable of, because it was the only way I could forgive him the too numerous to mention examples of his ongoing spoken word imbecility.

That awful public persona is even infecting his older material for me now. I was listening to Shoplifters the other day, and as marvellous as it is, I still found myself thinking, "God, he's an idiot."

Morrissey's public relations are a disaster of his own making. Dimwit journalists merely record the event.
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Moz has always liked Jonathan Ross though. On Russell Brand's radio show he is quoted as saying Woss is "very clever" and if you saw him in the green room cam during his last appearance in '09, he is laughing at most of his jokes.
 
Johnny Barleycorn said:
That awful public persona is even infecting his older material for me now. I was listening to Shoplifters the other day, and as marvellous as it is, I still found myself thinking, "God, he's an idiot."

Morrissey's public relations are a disaster of his own making. Dimwit journalists merely record the event.
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I agree that Morrissey's PR disasters are mainly of his own making. I'm not clear why the Morrissey of today would impact your view of Shoplifters.
 
Do yourself a favour Wossy book the Duck Dynasty and let's see Tosserrey kill them for not being kind to animals. The audience can yell " fight, fight, fight, fight " as he bursts into tears like a big Jessie calling for his Mammy.

Benny-the-British-Butcher
 
Johnny Barleycorn said:
It is an opinion, shared by far, far more people than you might imagine.
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if they were opinions held by people who had some direct connection to Morrissey then it may be something to worry about, maybe. But since they just happen to be opinions of so called fans it's a bit... meh. The day Morrissey worries about opinions.... you can guess the rest :)
 
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Moz has always liked Jonathan Ross though. On Russell Brand's radio show he is quoted as saying Woss is "very clever" and if you saw him in the green room cam during his last appearance in '09, he is laughing at most of his jokes.
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they have been friends sinse he had an interview on his show back in 2004...
 
marred said:
if they were opinions held by people who had some direct connection to Morrissey then it may be something to worry about, maybe. But since they just happen to be opinions of so called fans it's a bit... meh. The day Morrissey worries about opinions.... you can guess the rest :)
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His public persona is a matter of public record. There's the clue.

If that is really how he wishes himself to be perceived then more fool him. It has plainly had a negative impact on his current career.
 
Johnny Barleycorn said:
If that is true, and I remember with particular fondness his interview on The South Bank Show in 1987 as an example of him at his wittiest and most erudite, what the hell has gone wrong?
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Well, as I said above, the last decent music journalist was around in the early 90s and then that's that. The whole music world turned Psyco (or is it SYCO) and Mercury went and EMI went (post Robbie William's £M's advance deal.) Then Sony went out and bought everything they could..

Johnny Barleycorn said:
It cannot just be silly journalists. It is true he has had his problems with being, if not misquoted, then misunderstood in print, but the Morrissey of today, bucking the trend once more, but this time in getting less wise as he gets older, is a self made construct. That is him, or part thereof. It is the face he alone chooses to present to the world. He presents himself as, and I'm sorry to use the words that will follow him around until the grave, but they seem very apposite, truculent and unreliable. I've said before I would cross the road to avoid him. Off the top of my head I cannot think of a public figure I would rather avoid, and I'm including the Houses of Parliament.
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You are entitled to your opinion.
I am sorry to read that though because the paragraph you (and many others) seem to misquote is "...truculent and unreliable where business interests were concerned" which also seemed to miss the point totally. Because the judge was half asleep, the judge seemed much more concerned about helping the legal aid client than getting at the truth. The judge also believed everything the legal-aid client said to him, which was not the truth at all. It was wrong.
You are entitled to your view, as much as the next man. It's just sad to see this view in print to be honest.
Look at the state of the world we live in now. Look at the ongoing wars now in 2014, in at least 7 countries. How thoughtful he is to care enough to sing and to speak out loud on these subjects, while he can. Before he retires to a cottage, beside an old textile mill, from memory.

Johnny Barleycorn said:
I wanted World Peace to be a winner, but it turned out to be a melody free slog. I needed it to be an astounding return to the heights we know/knew he was capable of, because it was the only way I could forgive him the too numerous to mention examples of his ongoing spoken word imbecility.

That awful public persona is even infecting his older material for me now. I was listening to Shoplifters the other day, and as marvellous as it is, I still found myself thinking, "God, he's an idiot."
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Maybe it is my musical background, but I was listening to Bullfighter and the instruments on that mix are just stunning. Without vocals it stands up. Boz and the gang did a fantastic job with MOUNTJOY, OBOE CONCERTO, ART-HOUNDS, ISTANBUL, ONE OF OUR OWN, EITLP and FORGIVE SOMEONE. JITW and KMAL are grower's in my opinion.
The album has some amazing instruments and guitars. Fantastic drumming. Great arrangements and the tempo is perfect.

Therefore, all things considered, I wouldn't think anyone, with any musical knowledge or taste at all, would back you up with a comment of WPINOYB as a "melody free slog." This is designed to be a joke, surely ?

My reply is that the last "slog" that I heard recently (in 2014) was on the Nicki Minaj album. Even then, it did have some good beats apart from the rhymes of "plasma" and "asthma" in track 2.

I don't agree with your comments. In fact, I have been laughing all day long since I read the "melody free slog" !
 
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