And this can still all be faked. A troll with a mission??

I pointed out why Lutewine doesn't have enough credibility to make this a main page post.

Sincerely,
Lukainexile
sillygoose
winkwink
puddle

seriously, Moz?

Did Morrissey really had a hand on the cover artwork? To me it looks like a bootleg. Especially how the title and Morrissey is written...

Doesn't fit into the grand artwork of Ringleader, Best Of or Refusal.

I call bullshit. Are we really to believe Morrissey wanted to Maladjusted cover art to go from ugly to completely fucking awful?

Its official

http://www.recordstore.co.uk/productdetail.jsp?productPK=unittest-ALqY1R94YgQn9lRZpN3IEb-1

These homespun CDs look so fake. None of the fonts matches the sleeve fonts.

Until official announcements from the record company with official images and track listings show up...

Why would someone waste their time and the time of many others' to post something like this?

David, I've never suggested this before because I am an advocate of free speech, but this should really be taken down...unless there's some validity...don't you think?

Still can't abide that new cover photo for 'Maladjusted'. The back cover's not bad, a nice font. But the back cover of 'Southpaw' looks horribly amateurish, like a hastily-assembled bootleg.

Received an email from eil this morning detailing the 'Southpaw' re-release. It said the reissue comes with 4 unreleased tracks, including 'Nobody Loves Us'. It's incredible how inaccurate these official blurbs often are.

James Keen

Er, look how STRETCHED the Southpaw sleeve looks compared to this:
http://www.morrissey-solo.com/article.pl?sid=08/09/23/0616236

So this is either the PR/Record company are really shitty and can't produce and print a simple promo (quite likely!) or this is fake (very likely!).

I don't think these types of record company put out promo's on CD-R's with inkjet printed labels. ...I'm waiting to be proved wrong...
In the meantime, here's a lovely tune...lalalala, doobedowap yodel yodel yodel.

the omissions. i really like 'roy's keeeeen'. it's totally singable, the background vox are lush. 'papa jack' is cool too. me no get it.

Looking at the fonts I want to believe it's all fake but...

I've never seen these Morrissey pictures before, so they must come from someone who has access to such things.

Are these pictures by Jake again, like the last three singles and the Best Of inner sleeve?

What has Sony Music to do with Morrissey's back catalogue? What has this label to do with Morrissey at all?

And who is responsible for both artworks?

What's going on here anyway? These reissues really confuse me.

I'd love to have these CD-R's.

It looks like Changesonebowie.

Any info on this? I'd like to buy something domestically once in a while.

Different record labels, different release dates, identical promo's turn up at the same time, on one person's doorstep.
Yum!

As a frequent collector of promos and generally knowing what to look for it's very possible that these are 100% genuine. Mercury were/are part of Universal Group and ditto for RCA belonging to Sony so that's enough attention to detail right there. Promotional CD-Rs are often knocked out by record labels with missing or wrong artwork, mis-spelt track titles and incorrect timings galore... often you put the discs in the CD drive and they sometimes play something completely different. Some of the time they may have been so hastily burned that there are audible glitches and track spacing errors. These have all happened to *genuine* promos I own and it does not detract from the clear fact they are genuine.

As a long standing fan with much affection for both of these much maligned LPs I must say it's borderline sacrilegious he's replaced the previous artwork with duller than dishwater photos of him pretending to be from the 50s/James Dean/Elvis or whatever. The original Southpaw sleeve had a lot of character and stood out on the shelf. Why try to play the revisionist 10+ years on?

Secondly, the running orders of these LPs - a very important factor in any album of worth - has been f*cked over to the point where they're unrecognisable. Again, why? A nice crisp remaster of the album as it was plus a second disc of rarities, b sides and live material would've been far more attractive and left the listener with the album as it was released on those days in 1995 and 1997.

I actually genuinely and completely hope these aren't the finished product.

ive worked for a few different major record labels. at any one time a label i workd at might have 4 different types of "advance" cd's. one might be in a die-cut sleeve, one might be in a standard jewel case, one might be in a paper sleeve, on might just be a piece of paper in a plastic sleeve.

we are asked to believe that BOTH Sony and Universal - who are not related companies issued morrissey advances with the exact same packaging? no fucking way. these are fake david.

this is FAKE and i'll tell you why: the southpaw grammar sleeve lists "nobody loves us" as a previously unreleased track, when we all know it appeared on my early burglary years.
plus the graphic design is way too amateur to be true.

It couldn't have happened! These are real FAKE.

I cannot WAIT for you "Fake" crying fools to realise that these are real.

Hahahahahahahaha!

I share a flat with a freelance journalist (who isn't even a Moz fan) and they got theirs in the post yesterday. They come from a reputable London PR - who also does PR for Springsteen.

Wake up and smell the coffee, kids.

The artwork is real. No question in my mind even if the promo discs maybe faked the artwork is still the real deal. I mean it makes sense, look at the majority of releases around that time. The new malajusted artwork is just an alternitve shot to the sunny single in my opinion and the SG artwork to the 'My Early Burglary Years' complaition. It's obvious Mozza wants an solo album collection that has a clear progression to it. Certianly in terms of artwork and the 'posing in front of buildings' shoots he was doing at the time is what would of made sense. Whatever you think of the new artwork it made more sense than the old ones. I would of had a shot of Mozza on the loo rather than the original Malajusted artwork. The new shots aren't amazing but there better. Also, the back cover is just what they do for promos and that is not what the back of the officail release will look like. Some promos don't have artwok at all so I wouldn't be suprised if these shots were streched by the printer.

The small sign above the title on the Maladusted sleeve. What does it say? "Alone.....?" Anything interesting?

Am I the only person to be really genuinely distressed by the concept of re-releasing a studio record (i.e. non-compilation etc) with a different running order to the original. I know we're in the download, grab-a-track, disposable music age, but for me an album is a piece of art from an artist. The running order was decided upon with thought and design. The artwork was planned etc. I have no problem with re-releases, including with bonus tracks (e.g. excellent B sides) incuded, but put 'em at the end AFTER the original record. And why change the artwork? For me that's an integral part of the whole concept. I have no idea if the promo sleeves suggested here are genuine. If they are, they're appalling, but then I'm one of those rarer Morrissey fans - I love both Maladjusted and Southpaw Grammar and am very fond of the artwork for both too! For all the M & S/G detractors, though I enjoy them to a degree and in parts, you can keep your Quarrys, Tormentors and Refusals!

Ben

You say real, I say fake.

Let's call the whole thing off.

If Morrissey is reading any of this he must be giggling into his Earl Grey.

Until they are released, who knows and who cares. Let's all have a debate on whether we like the cover art and track listing when we actually have the records in our hands / on our downloads. At the moment we are possibly part of the most childishly squabbling troupe on the web. Give at a few weeks and several people can have the last laugh. Until then, why don't we all concentrate on the fact that Moz is re-releasing two of his worst received albums with possibly better artwork and better track listings.

My opinion is that the cover of Maladjusted always had to be changed; the original is horrible, I always wondered why they chose that awkward pic of him squatting which is a position that anyone looks awful in; the only way the "squat" pic can be considered attractive is if it is placed side by side with a photo of the same indiviual sitting on a toilet.

So I am glad the photo was changed. I am kinda curious at the track ommisions and can only assume that this was an editing mistake and that it will be corrected. Otherwise it makes no sense to reissue the album at all. Plus its not one of Moz's best anyhow.

...who are dismissing these as "fake" based on the fact they simply "look" low budget and have printed sleeves have obviously never collected promos before in their life. I own a vast array of promos for artists similar to Morrissey (Manchester, Smiths related, etc) and some of them look like they were knocked off in 10 minutes by a bored record label tea boy. This doesn't detract from the fact they were 100% official.

Don't let the packaging fool you - these could very well be the real deal.

Besides who would be bored enough to fabricate Morrissey reissues for two fairly obscure 90s albums that nobody bar the usual suspects are really going to wet themselves over. Let's face it and realistically they won't be charting top 40 let alone top 10.

I vote genuine and totally agree the running orders should have been left alone.

They're not.

Thanks for listening.

these look real to me bc whY would a record company and Moz spend any extra money on these re-issues anyway? I think these are the real deal. I know the cover art IS real!

I think everyone misses the point here. Why are these two low grade albums being re-issued in the first place? What other crap are they going to re-issue next- 'World of Morrissey'?

...And let's presume they are,

Love the Southpaw Grammar pic - class.

But Maladjusted, which was a low ebb period in Morrissey's life - this is when his career was at its lowest and everyone was seemingly loosing interest (he just wasn't VALID in 1997 compared to 2004) - seems like a wrong cover image.

It shows a confident Morrissey from that year. I think that Maladjusted, for it's faults, is a hidden gem in the Moz cannon and should be reappreciated, but should have a very REFLECTIVE image on the sleeve. Not so cocky.

Anyway, good to see 'Nobody Loves Us' closing Southpaw Grammar. I maintain that this is the best song ever, ever ,ever, ever, EVER!

GIZ A CHEER "NOBODY LOVES US" FANS!!!!

If these photos are fakes or not, who really cares? Both albums are important in Morrissey world. I really really used to like "Southpaw" when it came out....and I still think it's a fine album.

Morrissey is not about *top 10* hits, beer & skittles....

Get a life. If you don't like the albums, don't buy them! Simple as.

Maybe it's my eyes, but:

Does the Maladjusted tracklist really say "Now I Am I Was"?

If so, 1:0 for being a fake, especially since these reissues are said to have been overseen by Morrissey himself. Doubt so.