Looking forward to this, will definately have to Sky+ it!!

Although I still think Jonathan Ross is a muppet for what he said at the Roundhouse Gig.

So incredible disappointing, I had really looked forward to see an interview with Morrissey.

Why is it he refuses to let Jonathan Ross interview him? Is it because he doesn’t like being interviewed on TV or is it because he doesn’t like Jonathan Ross?

FYI: He does not like the two 'r's. It may be to do with the racehorse called Mozzer.

hmmm....quite disappointed that there's no interview, I thought the last one was quite funny, although he did a runner when he was last due on, so fair to say, he'd rather not speak to JR.... on the subject of TCM, does anyone agree that this modern version is an insult? i can't help but cringe at such a frivolous interpretation of a beautifully symbolic/important song in Smiths/Moz history...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kM3_fz5IXTo [youtube.com]

(start of show - brief chat with moz)

That was just fabulous!

...Morrissey is the one that changed JR's view about life. That's some compliment, over and above the present of the album.

Songs, I'm Throwing My Arms Around Paris, and This Charming Man, were a great mix to finish the show.

Glad I caught it, just in from a great Damien Dempsey gig.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kM3_fz5IXTo [youtube.com]

So sad how Boz sat up when the camera pan on to him...

Love Wozzy though.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y0JRBHVw6_E [youtube.com]

Paris and Charming Man

johnny marr makes this song, sorry boz i love you but.....

This is one of the few Smiths songs where I think Morrissey`s vocal was always better than the music. I`ve always regarded the music as over-fussy and twee (and quite tuneless). Morrissey`s lyrics and delivery are what make this song. Yamaha

That was really horrible. He shouldn't be allowed to do Smiths-material with this band. Please don't!

I am speaking of Ross of course.

How Morrissey has allowed this truly awful man into his "inner circle" is, quite frankly, beyond me.

Ross has made a career out of crass, crude and, often times, deliberately inappropriate material coupled with cloying sycophancy.

It really is disappointing to watch him take this chump to his heart. It doesn't really say much for him.

This is the part of the thread when people can now defend Ross as being "hilarious" and accuse me of jealousy.

I thank you.

Kimura

Well that was a complete cringe-fest.

Best friends with Ross now? Oh dear, he really HAS lost it

top show, great comments from jonathan, remember seeing morrissey on the channel 4 chat show he used to have, so he's liked him for years, just what it has to do with people on here who mozz be-friends i'm not sure, mozz in great voice also, excellent show.

It's probably a good thing that Moz didn't do a sit-down with Woss, which would just result in another toe-curling moment. Morrissey has already stated that he is not wholly suited to these type of things. He doesn't possess that "spring in steps" that TV chat show guests seem to have.

Regardless, the songs were great. "This Charming Man" might very well miss Johnny's highlife guitars. This version sounds like Death Cab For Cutie's cover.

As for the rest, I think the guests are really dull and are nothing but third-rate micro-celebs that you often see when the producers cannot reel in somebody bigger or more interesting.

Wow, I didn't think I'd go all wobbly just now when I watched "This Charming Man," but I did. I like the fact that he's updated it for this band in 2009. He really doesn't dwell in the past, which is refreshing.

Those vocals are astonishing but, as someone posted above, I miss the little high-pitched whoop. That' s what really irritated people all those years ago ; )

As for J. Ross, I don't understand all the vitriol. I only ever encounter him on this site, but he always comes across as clever, articulate and, yes, more than a little crass. A bit like a certain brilliant vocalist I can think of.

It's interesting that J. Ross and R. Brand (both of whom Moz seems quite close to) have incurred such public wrath of late. The three of them are quite a gang of thugs : D

I thought the version of This Charming Man was excellent. It reminded me of the live version of Suedehead on Beethoven Is Dead & I loved that too.
That said, I saw a comment on here where someone said the band could've played it like the Smiths did but chose not to. I don't think that's right, none of them are talented enough to recreate Marr's guitar. Although also, I wouldn't really want them to. If I want to hear it as the Smiths played it, I'll just play the original. I'm quite happy to hear it played a different way.

And finally... of course, they were live and so without the benefit of three million overdubs like Marr had.

if master marr is sooooo good then why oh why is he a member of the crabs, i mean come on, they are shite, the other 2 smiths people work in homebase, got refusal this morning from the postman, and its ace, 50 this year, he is the uk answer to a modern day elvis ,and he doesnt need the smiths or 50% of the abusers on morrissey so low.

just watched the clips, really funny, morrissey sounds better than ever, the chat show man was very kind with his words, really nice touch, long live the english (brit award winner) morrissey

black cloud is the best song i have ever heard. anyone else love it?

...some tween/emo kid seeing this and thinking "Hey, I like this!" and then buys the heavy rocking "Years of Refusal", then decides to check out this Morrissey guy further...buys other rockers like Your Arsenal, Southpaw, and the last two albums...goes back and buys Meat is Murder...a new Moz fan is born and Morrissey lives on.

Such inane comments usually get published round these parts

Well it was a knock knock joke but Harry is funny more than can be said for other would be comedic followers

irene
liverpool

My opinion. Morrissey's robust baritone has thinned out a bit. His breathing is not right. Fact: he needs to lose 10-15 pounds and everything would improve. I love the guy, but Moz is larger than life and we expect him to be a certain way. Most importantly, it would help his breathing and improve his range. By the way, I am in the U.S. and "Years of Refusal" was already put on the rack at Best Buy, where I purchased 2 copies. $14.99 for the one with the bonus dvd and the regular cd for $12.99. REAL Morrissey fans will love it. "Something is squeezing my skull" is a new favorite, "Black Cloud" is a good song, and features Jeff Beck, which is surreal, because Jeff Beck is one of the greatest guitarists in rock history. "It's not your birthday anymore" sounds like it will eventually be a Morrissey classic...it just sounds grand, Morrissey sings the hell out of that song, one of his best performances ever. Overall, I rate "Years of Refusal" as one of his best albums ever. It DOES rock! On the back of the cd it reads, "produced by Jerry Finn, recorded in Los Angeles, play very loud." I love it and I have been a fan since 1985, so I know what I'm talking about. Viva Morrissey!

Maybe it's just me, but I feel the music would sound much better with Alain and Gaz in the band. These new guys just sound to rough for Moz's voice. Finesse is what's missing! Except for Boz of course.

Some people are hypocritical fools!

The moment he and band attempt a smiths classic, you are all on the bandwagon criticising, and if he decided to never play smiths songs again, good god, I dread to think of the stick he would get.

Can't people just be happy he's decided to dredge up a Smiths classic - its not 1984 now, things simply have to change and evolve! If people want to hear The Smiths songs ala 1980's then they should really stay at home listening to the records or shut up and just be happy that he's still around singing them!!

If someone came to Johnny Marr in the 1980's and played a video of the above, subsequently exposing him to the terrible sound created by those strange faces attempting to re-create his genius, he probably would have lost his lunch.

If someone played that video to Morrissey in the 1980's and said that the old, grey-haired grump with bloated belly singing would be him in a few years, he probably would have left the business completely, taking his would-be shame to the grave in silence, never speaking of what he saw to anyone, ever.

Sadly, this didn't happen and sadly, we all have to live with what has lazily replaced the brilliance of the Smiths.

Hello, Nick The Name here with more of my wry "off the wall" witticisms about this laughable Morrissey character. I liked him once you know - my comments are valid! He's lost it.

Well well well, what can be said about this dreadful "TV" appearence? It really is beyond words. The way he laughed when Jonathan "Ross" spoke - the younger Morrissey would be spinning in his grave. He's lost it. And as for that picture of him and his band in the nude - well, see my previous humorous posts for more wry withering asides on that score!! Suffice to say - he's lost it.

Ans as for those songs - don't get me started. "Paris" isn't even a song at all - its more of a speech or post-it note. "This Charming Man" - well! All I can say is - he's lost it. Really, that's all I can say. He's lost it. Lost.
Can this really be the same man who wrote the songs which meant so much to me, like "Sunday", "Hairdesser Fired", "Boxing" and "Skinhead"? I think not. He's lost it!

Of course none of you sad fans can admit these facts, and will level accusations such as "troll", "wanker", "tedious, self-important, illiterate fuckwit" at me. Well, all I can say is, the truth hurts.

-Nick The Name

 

He's still gorgeous
But israel should still fuck off out of Palestine

irene
liverpool
not yet invaded by israelis

..if you show me yours

batch face killa's

puro Morrissey!

its like how Death Cab for the Cuties covers This Charming Man, its just to american rock, very litle surprised beats on the song which i hope his band can creates

Does it occur to anyone here that Morrissey has the power with his band to tell them how to play every note of every song? He obviously wants TCM to sound the way it did- or it wouldn't sound that way! How dense can you lot be?

Does anyone know? It's not Mikey Farrell

Kathleen

This may have already be mentioned but doesn't the beginning of this version of "This Charming Man" sound just like "Walking on Sunshine" which JR joked about being a bonus track?! Ha!

The drummer was painfully off on one of the first few notes.

Wow... I am speechless over the switch that Morrissey was able to turn-on for This Charming Man. It begs the serious question: If you can still sing like that, Moz, then why aren't you doing it more on your newer songs?

That was incredible to me...he sounds as good as I've ever heard him...

... just as he loves Russell Brand.I'm sure the recent witch hunt against JR and RB by the right wing media, along with the recent attacks on the BBC merely galvanised his decision to perform on the BBC and on the Ross show. He obviously has different taste to the nutters on this site, which to me is a relief as i wouldnt want to agree with some of the twaddle on here.

As regards the version of This Charming Man, this band are obviously trying a different take on the song rather than doing it Karaoke style. I'm sure Boz could play the proper guitar line if needed, I can even play it for fuck's sake, but then I never could have made it up , and neither could Boz have I would guess.And that where Marr's genius was and I'm glad they gave it respect by not imitating it note for note.

Finally, as Jonathon Ross is one of the few powerful media people who gives Mozz continual plugs and airtime ,and is quite obviously a genuine fan, I'm shocked at the attitude of the twats on here who dont know an ally when they see one.

Presenting Ross the Peter Wyngarde LP made my day - still makes me smile at the thought of it

I just don't see the glamour in him, the band and his music anymore? I ask myself "why" and "how come" his music doesn't grab me anymore and lift me up like it used to? I don't even boast and brag about him anymore because most of the people that I come in contact with usually say "Morrissey, do you mean Jim Morrison" anyways. I tried to get excited about this performance but it fell flat I am affraid. He is getting over the hill, overpaid and his music is boring as of late. The only fans that could understand what I mean is the ones who were fortunate enough to have seen The Smiths like myself. The band was exciting, dangerous and always entertaining. The music and the musicians were way superior and I just do not get anything out of any of the solo music anymore. The new CD is already on the shelf with the others and I probably will not play it more than I already did which was twice. The second time hoping I would get some chills or smiles but no, its like the last three solo efforts...They all sound the same. Try the Robert Plant/Allison Krauss "Raising Sand" Cd, now thats a killer!

Sounds like all the rest.....I cannot get into the new songs no matter how hard I try? The songs do not sound like there was any real effort put into the writing or the arrangements. They sort of sound like songs that he took out of the can because he had no ideas for new ones? He also sounds very f-l-a-t as well. This new CD will be shelved very quickly at the radio stations again! Its too bad really.

The previous week Jonathan Ross said that Morrissey would be on the show to sing and chat, so I'm assuming that meant an interview. I think Morrissey must of pulled out at the last minute as Dev Patel wasn't announced as a guest the previous week and therefore was brought in as a replacement for Morrissey.

Oh well.

I gotta agree with some on here (and I can't believe it's only some), but that version of This Charming Man, is actually better than that done by The Smiths.

"Wow!"

OK, it was a good single at the time....never really grabbed me that much....too jingly-jangly.

I much much prefer Morrissey doing it NOW rather than the fey, pale & skinny Morrissey of the yore.

His vocals also sound much better now.

There's an odd paradox about the the current inclusion of 'This Charming Man' into the setlist.

Firstly....Morrissey has stated on at least two occasions(maybe more that I'm unaware of) that he would NEVER sing 'This Charming Man' again; possibly because it was written about someone in particular, or maybe because it's too strong a reminder of headier times. There's almost a peculiarly hollow feeling of surrender about it's return. This is sated somewhat by the fact that I actually like the new version. Of course it will never replace the jolt I still get hearing the original, but given that I thought I'd never hear it live again....I'll take it.

Secondly....as a couple of other people have pointed out, it's an absolute unbridled joy to hear THAT voice again. A voice that seems to have been posted missing since 1987. If, as is blatantly obvious, Morrissey still possesses the voice he built his career upon....why doesn't he use it more often? I don't have a problem with the voice he chooses to sing with now(it sounds miraculous on 'When I Last Spoke To Carol'), but I just wish he'd let it loose a little more often.

THAT was the biggest thrill of Friday night's show!!!

not as pathetic as you my friend

Don't listen or Watch then. Your problem solved.

Bring it Mark! I miss you