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New Stephen Street website
posted by davidt on Friday January 23 2009, @11:00AM

 Stuart King writes:
Hi i just read on the excellent Lloyd Cole web site that Stephen Street has a new web site.

Here is what Lloyd wrote:

My friend Stephen Street, the producer (Morrissey, Blur, Love Story, the Negatives) has a new website. Our mutual friend Andy Strickland who has helped me more often than I can remember with this type of thing has written the promotional copy - here it is

Producer Stephen Street launches interactive website

www.Stephenstreet.net launches with Viva Hate exclusive and exclusive Blur studio footage.

Award-winning producer, Stephen Street, known for his ground breaking studio work with the Smiths, Morrissey, Blur, the Cranberries, Kaiser Chiefs and Pete Doherty among a host of other artists, has launched his own interactive website.

www.Stephenstreet.net features exclusive photos from Street’s own archives and never before seen footage of Blur in the studio during the band’s Parklife sessions.

Morrissey fans get the chance to see the original Viva Hate songbook, complete with scribbled chords and production notes. Street co-wrote the album with the former Smiths singer. There’s even a hand-written letter from Morrissey in which the singer plots his solo career with Street – fascinating stuff.

An audio record deck also provides some classic, and less known, Street produced moments from 25 years as one of Britain’s most successful record producers.

 
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i love the letter he's got on there (Score:3, Interesting)
he's like, "i would hope that mike and andy be involved..."

that makes me feel warm inside.
fut -- Friday January 23 2009, @11:15AM (#319356)
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speaking of Street...Tape Op! (Score:3, Insightful)
I just got the new Tape Op in the mail yesterday, and was excited to find a lengthy interview with Stephen Street. It's a fantastic article. He talks about his more recent work as well as sessions with The Smiths and Morrissey(For those not aware of Tape Op, it's a really great magazine devoted to recording and is more "human" than other overly-technical recording magazines- it's also free to subscribe to)
general gingersnap -- Friday January 23 2009, @11:41AM (#319360)
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    Bands before The Smiths (Score:1, Informative)
    I know Street produced a lot of bands after the Smiths & Morrissey but does anyone what he did before them?
    Boxers71 -- Friday January 23 2009, @11:42AM (#319361)
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    New (Old) Song Titles (Score:3, Informative)
    The handwritten notes on the Viva Hate songbook reveal a few titles I've never heard of before:

    I Don’t Want Us To Finish

    What’s Love?

    Happy Lovers At Last United

    And they confirm the existence of rumoured songs:

    Treat Me Like A Human Being

    Lifeguard On Duty

    Safe Warm Lancashire Home

    There's also a reference that says:
    (similar to) Taste Your Skin
    but does that mean similar to a Moz song of that name, or a song by someone else?

    Also, one song seems to have started out with the longer title:
    Ordinary Boys, Ordinary Girls

    Interesting stuff!

    Anonymous -- Friday January 23 2009, @12:06PM (#319367)
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      Same old, same old (Score:0)
      I did giggle at Moz moaning about chart positions. Some things never change!!

      Interesting about the date too. What date did the NME reveal that Marr had left?? Shows MOz is not one to rest on his laurels despite being completely distressed

      BB
      Anonymous -- Friday January 23 2009, @12:24PM (#319371)
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      dead letter website? (Score:2, Insightful)
      I have to say, I think it's a bit creepy of Street to reproduce Morrissey's letter like that. I mean, leaking its contents to a biographer would be one thing, but to scan in the entire thing and stick it on a website?!? That seems a bit too much. Is nothing sacred anymore? And we wonder why Morrissey is such a control freak who fires managers left and right; it's because he's tired of people screwing him over all of the time. The guy is jaded for many reasons (this is now one of them). The charts and chord progressions are fair game, as are the working titles, but the letter feels like too much.
      Anonymous -- Friday January 23 2009, @02:18PM (#319396)
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      • Re:dead letter website? by Anonymous (Score:0) Friday January 23 2009, @04:22PM
          • Re:dead letter website? (Score:2, Funny)
          Yes, the same thought occurred to me. I know exactly how I would feel ifprivate correspondence of mine was pasted on the internet.

          Didn't stop me from reading the letter, though, as I am now a fully-fledged cynic with no conscience left to bother me at night.

          kissmyshades -- Saturday January 24 2009, @01:50AM (#319436)
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          • Re:dead letter website? by goinghome (Score:1) Saturday January 24 2009, @11:47AM
              Re:dead letter website? (Score:2, Funny)
              What is this this - a pantomime?

              How the devil are you?

              If you're around London on May 11th we ought to get together and compare poems and/or album reviews of YoR.

              In the meantime, I am hugely hating my Monday.
              kissmyshades -- Monday January 26 2009, @07:17AM (#319520)
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        thats the second time.. (Score:0)
        For a guy that has incessantly declared that he doesn't do things for money, that's the second time Moz has tried to lure co-writers into the fold by dangling how much money they can make. He tried using this carrot when Vini Reilly told him that he wouldn't be joining him for his second album.

        I knew the truth would eventually come out.
        Now lets find out if Moz is the power-bottom he claims he isn't.

        Anonymous -- Friday January 23 2009, @02:38PM (#319398)
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        A polite, encouraging and enthusiastic letter. (Score:3, Interesting)
        Very interesting to read this polite, encouraging and enthusiastic letter.

        It must have been bizarre for Stephen Street to have collaborated with The Smiths, then suddenly find that there's a yawning void that he might possibly be able to fill if he has the courage to act.

        I'm glad he did.

        The only discordant element is the invitation to 'the lawnmower parts'. Baffled as to why Morrissey didn't join up the dots between the unresolved contractual issues of these band members and the karma of future projects. Maybe he just never read letters from accountants and lawyers at that stage. Like that Sting fella who didn't even miss £6 million quid that his bean-counter syphoned off.

        Sad and strange to think that this creative partnership would end with such rancour and chaos with Stephen Street having to injunct Morrissey to ensure royalties/cash-flow. Whatever. Oh well, I guess business-related mood swings and tantrums were there from the start but only became really florid at an advanced stage of 'being Morrissey'. What a waste of time, talent and energy. Which, of course, climaxed in the undignified scenes at The High Court in London.

        BrummieBoy * -- Friday January 23 2009, @03:10PM (#319400)
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        • Re:A polite, encouraging and enthusiastic letter. by marred (Score:0) Friday January 23 2009, @04:03PM
          • Nice Try regarding the lawnmower parts by Kate2828 (Score:0) Friday January 23 2009, @06:24PM
          • Re:A polite, encouraging and enthusiastic letter. by BrummieBoy (Score:1) Saturday January 24 2009, @04:44AM
            • Flash Funk ain't no Lawn Mower! by Rich Hill1978 (Score:1) Saturday January 24 2009, @05:51AM
                Re:Flash Funk ain't no Lawn Mower! (Score:2, Interesting)
                Yes, indeed. The songs you've quoted are also excellent examples of collaborative effort. He was, and may still be, a brilliant bassist. Talent wasted by a fit of pique and unwarranted grievance. The fact that he was invited to play at Wolves Civic 88 is just too silly to consider, given he had by then already issued threats of legal action. I remember the event well, either Morrissey was on medication or he suffering extreme cognitive dissonance. Possibly both. This 'feud' has continued to plague live shows even up till the last one I saw in Edinburgh 08, which was a fantastically over the top 'pity poor me' whinge after exhuming yet another Smiths track. You couldn't make this nonsense up if you were writing a bad filmscript about a band that 'were good in their day' but then did a 'someofusisturninnasty' implosion.

                In early interviews, Morrissey referred to The Smiths formation as a 'religious miracle' in that they had all even met. Either this was true, in which case the other members were entirely justified in thinking their 'miraculous appearance' warranted appropriate recompense. Or he was just spinning a bullshit yarn, trying to make out they were the latest 'last gang in town' like The Dolls, The Specials, Madness or The Clash. At least he's never gone over the cliff edge and attempted to intimate they were in any way equivalent to the genuine miracle of The Beatles.

                As for Johnny Marr, he has always been slippery and evasive regarding his school friends. I lost a lot of respect for him for refusing to make a frank admission, pay up promptly, and move on to try and fail to besmirch the perfection of Kraftwerk's legacy. As for paying off a sick drug-addict bassist with a paltry pay-off....... neither of them have any right to fulminate about other people's business ethics.

                Morrissey and Marr presented 'band unity' to the 'lawnmower parts' when it was expedient to do so. They were too mean or short-sighted to get legal and accountancy advice, thus failing to realise they had, indeed, established a 'contract' with the 'miraculously' found band members/spare parts.

                I haven't read the court transcripts. Life's too short. I'd rather read the phone book. The Judge involved has not been removed for criminality or senility, so it's rational to conclude he made a perfectly logical decision. Only a deluded cult member would even give a damn about Morrissey's bilious ventilations on the topic ever since. Although, it can be a fun way to entertain oneself on a dark winter evening, reading of him falling flat on his face. Again!

                He provides consumer products which I enjoy alongside many others. He 'appears live on stage' to entertain me for a pre-arranged amount, whether by professionally running through his back-catalogue or having a hilarious diva hissy fit. Either way it's a good night out. And it's really no different that putting down my money for a good stripper at the local pub. It's a job, Morrissey. Just like everyone else has a job. Like the local stripper. And the stripper you pretended to ogle on that silly programme about your 'mysterious exile in L.A'. Strippers get sacked if they don't dish up the goodies for the punters. So do pop stars. That's why your career is 'somewhat erratic'. It's not your top-flight Voice or minor-poet lyrics. It's your attitude. I have a sulking teenager upstairs right now. I wouldn't put up with having another one the same age as me as a friend or business associate.

                Sorry to puncture that whole 'outsider artist' balloon you been continuously attempting to re-inflate since the InterWeb punctured it good and proper. You're special, so special.....but so are lots of other people. Felt rang rings around The Smiths. Constantly. Morrissey dropped his forenames. Lawrence his surname. History will award the prize to the right band. The fact they didn't 'make it' or become 'famous' is as relevant as the fact that Howie withdrew to the dignity of a labour of love bookbinding.

                I realise this may make some visitors to this site vomit in their beds, but I'm not sorry for th

                Read the rest of this comment...

                BrummieBoy * -- Saturday January 24 2009, @11:14AM (#319458)
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            • Re:A polite, encouraging and enthusiastic letter. by marred (Score:1) Monday January 26 2009, @01:09PM
        wonderful (Score:1)
        This was fantastic to see, a real treat.
        vicarinatutugal -- Friday January 23 2009, @04:19PM (#319407)
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          handwriting (Score:1)
          Looking at Morrissey's handwriting makes me feel better about mine. Haha.

          And, if the wikipedia page is correct, the letter was written only 7-some days after "Girlfriend in a Coma" came out. Either Morrissey expected a lot from his singles or the industry was different back then, because I think that's pretty good for being within the first week...
          columbula -- Friday January 23 2009, @05:59PM (#319415)
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          • Re:handwriting by andyd2809 (Score:1) Friday January 23 2009, @07:55PM
            Skin Storm (Score:1)
            That's the first time I've heard the original Skin Storm by Bradford

            Nice
            crinklecutbeatroot -- Friday January 23 2009, @06:44PM (#319422)
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              Amazing site... (Score:1)
              It's so great that this site has been created to share Street's memories and history. Very well designed.

              Good stuff and a worthwhile visit.
              Neckdeep -- Friday January 23 2009, @09:54PM (#319432)
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                didn't knew (Score:1)
                he produced about all the of Blur and The Cranberries

                and didn't was aware he was around Meat is Murder
                recordings, always though he came along when
                the Queen is dead was nearly done.

                [but I dont want te get run over by a car in the M18]
                Celibate Cry <vauxhall@mail2uk.com> -- Saturday January 24 2009, @06:57AM (#319449)
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                  Well I Wonder... (Score:0)
                  ...if Street was a vegetarian?
                  Anonymous -- Saturday January 24 2009, @09:37AM (#319452)
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                    Stephen Street: Good Looking Man About Town. (Score:1)
                    A cursory flick through the memorial album reminds me why Stephen Street had to go.

                    No matter how great his musical talents were, unlike Johnny Marr or Vini Reilly: He was simply too good looking. Too handsome. Sometimes, "more than enough is just too much"

                    As for the minor cruelty imposed by Morrissey refusing to let Stephen Street fulfil his childhood dream? Again. Was Morrissey going to let this astonishingly handsome 'good looking man about town' appear live on TOTP in front of the nation's teenagers? Too dangerous.

                    I'm delighted Stephen Street forged a successful and artistically satisfying career after this debacle of a 'sacking'. He's on my preferred producer list for 20:12, 20/12, 2012 AD. And I'll ensure he's paid on time if he hits the jackpot by getting the call.

                    Morrissey looks awkward in that photo with Stephen Street. With good reason. The eye is drawn to real beauty. The camera never lies. And the past always catches up with you. It's called karma.

                    BrummieBoy * -- Sunday January 25 2009, @01:04AM (#319483)
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                    the decline.. (Score:0)
                    morrissey's decline didnt begin with losing johnny marr. it began with losing stephen street. atristically and commercially the slide began with ouiji board... which was the first track recorded without street (i know he wrote it - but you have to wonder how much better it would have been without if street had produced it not langer). street's music wasnt johnny marr of course. but it was good and interesting. it provided a perfect backdrop. as street said in a doco he thinks morrissey just got to a point where he thought he didnt need johnny marr or stephen street - he could continue with anyone... rott and yor prove just how wrong morrissey was...
                    Anonymous -- Tuesday January 27 2009, @01:36AM (#319538)
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                      I have been mostly "Remastering The Smiths Albums" (Score:1)
                      Diary entry 06 Dec 08

                      Says he's been remasterig with Johnny Marr.

                      Hurrah!

                      First Woolworths and now Olympic Studios (Where Boxers was recorded). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olympic_Studios [wikipedia.org]
                      Tingle -- Tuesday January 27 2009, @02:30AM (#319539)
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                      Re:n/a (Score:0)
                      You praise the website then you trash the man? How is he a nobody? Did you look at the site that you thought was fantastic? You need help!
                      marred -- Friday January 23 2009, @03:58PM (#319404)
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                        Re:n/a (Score:0)
                        hi moz!
                        Anonymous -- Tuesday January 27 2009, @10:53PM (#319612)
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