America Ready To Speak To Morrissey
posted by davidt on Wednesday November 05 2008, @12:00PM

Prender writes:
Here is a little (tongue-in-cheek) article I wrote the other day. Think any news wires would pick it up?

America Ready To Speak To Morrissey

Oct-29-08

As the American Presidential election arrives on November 4th, America seems to be preparing to have something to say to Morrissey to help him believe. Election early voting exit polls suggest that Barack Obama, D-Senator from Illinois and of African decent, is poised to become the 44th President of the United States. If so, it will mark the first time in American history when someone other than a white male is elected to the country's highest position.

As a then resident of Los Angeles, California, the English singer Stephen Patrick Morrissey, aka Morrissey, sang of his disillusionment and reluctant love for the USA in his song "America Is Not The World" from his 2004 album "You Are The Quarry".

        "In America, the land of the free, they said, and of opportunity, in a just and a truthful way.
        But where the president, is never black, female or gay, and until that day, you've got nothing to say to me, to help me believe"

On the verge of the United States' first "black" President, it would appear that America does in fact have something to say to Morrissey - namely that it is the land of opportunity and freedom where a son of an African immigrant can rise to the executive seat of the most powerful country on the planet. If early polls are anything to go by, Morrissey will have plenty to believe come November 4th.
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An anonymous person writes:
So since Obama became President. What does this mean about the song "America is not the world"? Is he going to change the song?
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KiasuChick writes:
Ian Rogers picks up on the fact the lyrics to America Is Not The World are no longer true:

What Does America Have to Offer You Now, Morrissey? - FISTFULAYEN

 
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Well, I'm sure he meant a (Score:1)
100% black person, not just 50% ;)
Chicho -- Wednesday November 05 2008, @12:29PM (#313879)
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It just dates the song (Score:0)
Worst opening song on any Morrissey album.
robiskeen -- Wednesday November 05 2008, @12:48PM (#313885)
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Tracy Chapman for president! (Score:0)
Maybe since California voted to repeal rights of gay people last night, Morrissey still has a valid point.
Anonymous -- Wednesday November 05 2008, @01:27PM (#313891)
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Make the Dream Real (Score:1)
It feels good, that's for sure. An obstacle between people of different origins seems to have been removed at one fell stroke already and maybe we can all identify with eachother on a more real basis now, and therefore communicate about what matters without so many fears and prejudices. Despite all the other gigantic conundrums, a movement towards unified efforts for peace and cooperative survival is blowing in the wind.

It was reported some time ago that one of Morrissey's favourite poems is called 'An American Prayer', written by Jim Morrisson of The Doors, and it seems appropriate to recall it now.

“Do you know the warm progress under the stars?
Do you know we exist?
Have you forgotten the keys to the Kingdom?
Have you been borne yet & are you alive?

Let's reinvent the gods, all the myths of the ages
Celebrate symbols from deep elder forests
[Have you forgotten the lessons of the ancient war]

We need great golden copulations

The fathers are cackling in trees of the forest
Our mother is dead in the sea

Do you know we are being led to slaughters by placid admirals
& that fat slow generals are getting obscene on young blood

Do you know we are ruled by T.V.
The moon is a dry blood beast
Guerilla bands are rolling numbers
in the next block of green vine
amassing for warfare on innocent herdsmen
who are just dying

O great creator of being
grant us one more hour to
perform our art & perfect our lives

The moths & atheists are doubly divine & dying
We live, we die & death not ends it
Journey we more into the Nightmare
Cling to life our passion'd flower
Cling to cunts & cocks of despair
We got our final vision by clap
Columbus' groin got filled w/ green death
(I touched her thigh & death smiled)

We have assembled inside this ancient
& insane theatre
To propagate our lust for life
& flee the swarming wisdom of the streets
The barns are stormed
The windows kept
& only one of all the rest
To dance & save us
W/ the divine mockery of words
Music inflames temperament

(When the true King's murderers
are allowed to roam free
a 1000 magicians arisein the land)

Where are the feasts
we were promised
Where is the wine
The New Wine
(dying on the vine)
resident mockery
give us an hour for magic
We of the purple glove
We of the starling flight
& velvet hour
We of arabic pleasure's breed
We of sundome & the night

Give us a creed
To believe
A night of Lust
Give us trust in
The Night

Give of color hundred hues
a rich Mandala for me & you
& for your silky
pillowed house
a head, wisdom & a bed

Troubled decree
Resident mockery has claimed thee

We used to believe
in the good old days
We still receive
In little ways
The Things of Kindness
& unsporting brow
Forget & allow

Did you know freedom exists
in a school book
Did you know madmen are
running our prison
w/in a jail, w/in a gaol
w/in a white free protestant Maelstrom

We're perched headlong
on the edge of boredom
We're reaching for death
on the end of a candle
We're trying for something
That's already found us

We can invent Kingdoms of our own
grand purple thrones, those chairs of lust
& love we must, in beds of rust

Steel doors lock in prisoner's screams
& muzak, AM, rocks their dreams
No black men's pride to hoist the beams
while mocking angels sift what seems

To be a collage of magazine dust
Scratched on foreheads of walls of trust
This is just jail for those who must
get up in the morning & fight for such

unusable standards
while weeping maidens
show-off penury & pout
ravings for a mad staff

Wow, I'm sick of doubt
Live in the light of certain South

Cruel bindings
The servants have the power
dog-men

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goinghome -- Wednesday November 05 2008, @02:06PM (#313895)
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not to piss you off...but... (Score:0)
there is a good chance that Mr. Obama is not eligible to be Prez due to the "natural born citizen" clause...which would then invoke Directive 51. What then?
Anonymous -- Wednesday November 05 2008, @02:08PM (#313896)
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It doesn't matter (Score:0)
Nothing has changed, with regard to race relations in America, except that we can all tell ourselves that we're not divided anymore because we've elected an African-American president. I am a huge fan of Obama, and I'm excited for his years in office, but this doesn't indicate a step towards equality in American culture in anything like the way that school desegregation did (for example). This country didn't let go of its racism overnight, and self-congratulation over apparent symbolism can even make that worse.

Morrissey's lyric in "America is Not the World" wasn't as dumb as it sounded (I don't think he was necessarily saying that a black, female or gay president would automatically be a good or meaningful thing, so much as that he simply thought that American culture was sexist, racist and heterosexist and this was an unshakeable truth - which it is) but it was never one of his greatest insights, anyway. If he sings the song again, presumably it'll be in a more triumphant mood and with appropriate changes, but I doubt he will, because the point stands even though his example was proved untrue. It takes more than the election of one candidate, no matter how impressive the man and how high the office, to heal centuries of conflict and bigotry.
Anonymous -- Wednesday November 05 2008, @02:30PM (#313898)
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No. (Score:1)
The song was already unfit for public display.

He doesn't need another reason to abandon it for good.

It makes "Sorrow Will Come..." seem nuanced.
Nick The Name -- Wednesday November 05 2008, @09:08PM (#313916)
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    For fans of irony (Score:1)
    70% of black voters voted in favor of prop. 8, sealing its victory.

    More importantly, Barak Obama does not support the idea of gay marriage. He's been fairly clear about that. So much for "hope."

    However, I doubt many people were voting based on real issues any way. It was just a fun "shock your parents" type election for many.
    Nick The Name -- Wednesday November 05 2008, @09:18PM (#313917)
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      Obama - YEYEAH BABEEE!!! (Score:1)
      Thank goodness! Our world and this country would really be turning to s*** if the alternative were elected.

      Obama is not only our best-qualified, but also multi-racial (black, white, Hawaiian and Indonesian-raised). He grew up outside the norm, educated himself and learned/mastered the good things from the system, and now he will reform it because we simply cannot live in this denial of the rest of the world and the full stripes of this country anymore.

      And what a wonderful speech by him last night, completely inclusive (including gays and lesbians; only bisexuals and transgenders have a right for complaint here perhaps because he didn't spell all out withing LGBT) and aware of the need to listen and work with every demographic within the country and working diplomatically with countries beyond.

      But in California, I hear the votes are still being counted for Prop 8. BOOO! to homophobes who voted for it. 40 years ago, if you weren't white, by law you couldn't ever marry Morrissey even if he got down on sucked your feet and put a ring on every extremity. The law said "no". That was deemed a violation of civil rights in 1967. Prop 8 is also financially imprudent. Who is going to want to waste taxpayer money from the impending lawsuits that will come out of a Prop 8 "Yes" and refuse to accept people who generate life, business, creativity and revenue for our communities? People who've given so much back knowing the world often turns its back in their times of need as human beings (I'm talking healthcare, hospital visits, not being legally allowed to stay in a shared home after a partner passes). I'm being almost completely utilitarian in this case, of course. Almost.

      Another appalling thing is that at the same time, on the same ballot, Prop 2 for humane treatment of farmed animals for consumption has passed by a wide margin. This is a good thing in and of itself of course, and a big step towards people realizing their meat comes from a life, but why do people who voted pro-Prop 8 not see the disconnect? Acknowledgement of humanity in farm animals but not giving an inch to gay and lesbian Human Beings to take care of their partners and encourage monogamy? This proposition makes marriage, in effect, heterosexist. imho, marriage is about more than procreating (should straight couples who can't have kids not be able to marry?) Discrimination is such a waste of time, energy and money in this world (imho). How much could have been done with the $140 million+ raised to fight for or against the proposition? People also thought it more important to vote "no" on same sex marriage than to vote "yes" to improving children's hospitals. What??!!! When people's kids end up in emergency rooms or need chemo for cancer or arthritis that grows from the toxins from our environment, they'll realize the benefit. We hope it never happens. The reality is that it can and it does. Children's Hospitals are also university research hospitals at the very forefront of medical care. What is a success there benefits adult care as well. At least the Children's Health Insurance Plan, left in the hands of legislators and the new President Obama, will have a chance to get back on track now.
      romeogirl -- Wednesday November 05 2008, @11:58PM (#313925)
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      Danish radio (Score:1)
      On Danish radio today they actually played that snippet from 'America is not the world' to emphasize the historic moment. Must be the first time in many years Morrissey has been played on P1.
      Joemoz -- Thursday November 06 2008, @01:29AM (#313926)
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      • Germany by Anonymous (Score:0) Friday November 07 2008, @01:34AM
        Irish Blood English Heart (Score:1)
        and spit upon the name of Oliver Cromwell
        And denounce this royal line that still salute him
        And will salute him forever

        So that'll be the royal line whose ancestor wasn't actually tried and executed by Cromwell then? Not that I'm objecting to old Ironsides, well not his shortening the height of Charles I anyway.
        Reensie -- Thursday November 06 2008, @06:43AM (#313938)
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        Morrissey: Kingmaker (Score:1)
        In 2004 Morrissey issued the challenge.

        In 2008 Morrissey enthusiastically supported the Senator from Illinois in his run for Leader of the Free World.

        On November 4th America made good on it's promise, and Barack Obama was elected 44th President of the United States, simultaneously renewing a global vision of Democracy and giving America something to say to Moz.

        Well done. ; )

        Anaesthesine -- Thursday November 06 2008, @07:07AM (#313940)
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        If Moz did not exist, it would be necessary to invent him.
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        The song will be doubly wrong.. (Score:0)
        Because the next president will be female. Go Sarah!!! Her Veep will be Indian-American Bobby Jindal, so it won't be too long before we get this leftist thug Obama out of office and back under the rock from which he crawled. All of you idiots who voted for him: You get what you deserve. Name one of his proposals for "change" other than he's not Bush. Anybody who actually works for a living, get ready to give more of your money and all of your retirement savings to him to do with as he pleases.
        Anonymous -- Thursday November 06 2008, @09:52AM (#313947)
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        Did Moz vote for Obama (Score:0)
        I have a penis and I enjoy putting a yamake on it and going to the temple so that the gay rabbi can fondle it. The yamake falls off it because it just requires a small piece of cloth as its so small. I am a gay man with a gay penis and I enjoy having the gay Rabbi play with my penis.
        I love to ejaculate in his beard.
        I like to cause evil. I am Lucifer I make things happen.
        I have 3 hairs on my head and like to put a mop on my head when I go to the local gay bar to pick up men. I also like to put a toilet plunger on my face cause my ex gf said I look like shit. I plunge my face excessively with the plunger and sometimes it gets stuck. The men there are all gay which is good I think because I am a gay too. but they hate me. They say I’m a fat ugly wimpy coward countess.
        But they do not know that I am Satan and I make things happen. I make my ex gf’s TV go off and on. it’s fun I like it. I make spells and droplings appear outside her door to startle her because I am Lucifer, the son of Satan and I’m evil. I make things happen. I have a pitch fork and a tail which I also like to have gay camels suck on because I am actually Gay Satan.
        I enjoy taking peas and putting them in my ass cheeks and shooting them out at the local paperboy trying to knock him off his bicycle so I can expose him to my shriveled up penos. I like to I make things happen.
        I like to prance around in my victoria secret that I stole from my ex gf that is 20 times too small for me but I like the fabric against my skin. it gives me an erection. I wear pantyhose and steal her pantyhose too. I like to rub them on my penis.
        I am gay Satan and I’m evil and I make things happen.
        I like to torment my ex gf by making her hear noises when she is in the bathroim so she gets alarmed and starts screaming and hurts her voice. This is fun cause I’m evil as I am Satan son of Lucifer and my penis is a shriveled up licorice stick. Now I am consumed with resentment because she loves Moz and has pictures of his ass all over her well. this has made me extremely resentful and jealous. She is an unappreciative two-timing bastard. She turned me gay.
        I like to throw everything out but the kitchen sink because I am gay and want to be violated by an inebriated slave.
        I make things happen as I’m evil. I am Satan and I command you to obey my protégé Barack Obama the raisin and let him lead you and command you all to do my bidding. It is written, it is written in the snow with my urine. I am Satan I make things happen. I am gay Satan. I holler.
        Anonymous -- Thursday November 06 2008, @09:56PM (#313979)
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          Did Moz vote for Obama (Score:0)
          I am Satan and I am evil I make things happen. I am Lucifer the son of Satan. I make things happen. I have brought you Obama, the raisin. I have caused Obama the raisin to be elected. Cause I make things happen.
          I have a penis and I enjoy putting a yamake on it and going to the temple so that the gay rabbi can fondle it. The yamake falls off it because it just requires a small piece of cloth as its so small. I am a gay man with a gay penis and I enjoy having the gay Rabbi play with my penis.
          I love to ejaculate in his beard.
          I like to cause evil. I am Lucifer I make things happen.
          I have 3 hairs on my head and like to put a mop on my head when I go to the local gay bar to pick up men. I also like to put a toilet plunger on my face cause my ex gf said I look like shit. I plunge my face excessively with the plunger and sometimes it gets stuck. The men there are all gay which is good I think because I am a gay too. but they hate me. They say I’m a fat ugly wimpy coward countess.
          But they do not know that I am Satan and I make things happen. I make my ex gf’s TV go off and on. it’s fun I like it. I make spells and droplings appear outside her door to startle her because I am Lucifer, the son of Satan and I’m evil. I make things happen. I have a pitch fork and a tail which I also like to have gay camels suck on because I am actually Gay Satan.
          I enjoy taking peas and putting them in my ass cheeks and shooting them out at the local paperboy trying to knock him off his bicycle so I can expose him to my shriveled up penos. I like to I make things happen.
          I like to prance around in my victoria secret that I stole from my ex gf that is 20x too small for me but I like the fabric against my skin. it gives me an erection. I wear pantyhose and steal her pantyhose too. I like to rub them on my penis.
          I am gay Satan and I’m evil and I make things happen.
          I like to torment my ex gf by making her hear noises when she is in the bathroim so she gets alarmed and starts screaming and hurts her voice. This is fun cause I’m evil as I am Satan son of Lucifer and my penis is a shriveled up licorice stick. Now I am consumed with resentment because she loves Moz and has pictures of his ass all over her well. this has made me extremely resentful and jealous. She is an unappreciative two-timing bastard. She turned me gay.
          I like to throw everything out but the kitchen sink because I am gay and want to be violated by an inebriated slave.
          I make things happen as I’m evil. I am Satan and I command you to obey my protégé Barack Obama the raisin and let him lead you and command you all to do my bidding. It is written, it is written in the snow with my urine. I am Satan I make things happen. I am gay Satan holler.

          Anonymous -- Thursday November 06 2008, @10:06PM (#313980)
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            I voted for Bob Barr...as the least of the evils.. (Score:1)
            Because the America I believe in is not a socialist surveillance nanny state. Perhaps I'm in the minority. The elite .03%!!!!

            But its no surprise America would elect a person with darker skin. Morrissey never understood America at all when he thought otherwise. Some of the most right wing people in America would've loved to vote for Condie Rice for Prez, for example.

            Well, anyway, let me know when Britain has a black Prime Minister, all you Euro-trash into affirmative action.

            LoafingOaf * <{franticflintstone} {at} {gmail.com}> -- Thursday November 06 2008, @10:28PM (#313982)
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            Fuck it, Dude. Let's go bowling.
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            Christy Moore's version, AMERICA, I LOVE YOU (Score:0)
            I now rate the music in this track much more highly after hearing Christy Moore version.

            Moore's acoustic guitar arrangement seems to bring out a melodic beauty in the song not present on Morrissey's version. Maybe this says something about the musicians and producer involved in YATQ.

            However, Moore's change of title and lyrics do destroy some of the important nuances in Morrissey's writing.
            Anonymous -- Friday November 07 2008, @01:50AM (#313991)
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              Change is Coming (Score:0)
              "Obama will call on citizens of all ages to serve America, by developing a plan to require 50 hours of community service in middle school and high school and 100 hours of community service in college every year."
              http://www.change.gov/

              I'm pretty sure I remember hearing that this would be in order to have your college education paid for. Community service is great, but I keep getting stuck on the word required...not, "if you help out your community, we'll help you out with college."

              I know children need to be taught the value of hard work, but it should fall on the parents, not the government to teach that lesson.
              Anonymous -- Friday November 07 2008, @10:03AM (#314021)
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              Where Are The.... (Score:0)
              Black British Prime Ministers? Gay German Chancellors? Female French Presidents?

              -Just wondering.

              Yeah, blast the U.S. with your tired old diatribes. You Euros are worse in so many ways.

              Hypocrites.
              Anonymous -- Friday November 07 2008, @11:56AM (#314027)
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                Palin (Score:0)
                You gotta admit that Sarah Palin is hot. She puts an all new meaning to drillin in Alaska :p
                Anonymous -- Friday November 07 2008, @01:24PM (#314031)
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                  Mike Joyce aka Mike Gross is disgusting (Score:0)
                  My baby Morrissey , I think he has premonitions. I’m positive he has premonitions. In America, he had a vision years ago, whereby he wrote where the President is never black, female, or gay... and until that day. He had a vision years , after all those years up until this election, visions of Barack Obama, Hillary Clinton, and we could even throw in the Governor of New Jersey. I mean I know that he wasn’t running for President but he was still a Governor. So Morrissey taken the combination of these two presidential candidates, well now the President himself really - how am I suppose to feel about that - I’ll tell you how I feel about that - he has visions, premonitions. I mean Morrissey even knew years before about Princess Diana’s death, you see he knew how she was going to die and that she was going to be killed.. It’s all splashed for you to see the proof in the song There is a Light ...The song There is a Light ... who invented it. And who invented America, regarding where the President is never black, female or gay and until that day ... Oh, I forgot to tell you ... the Governor of NJ turned out to be gay. Now, now Paterson has taken over for Eliot Spitzer, but Eliot Spitzer was not gay, he was just having sex with prostitutes and the FBI investigated him in a sting. McGreevey is gay. Spitzer was investigated by the FBI but I could care less about that. I just know Morrissey is the most incredible person. Completely. Oh and one more thing, I was just thinking this is My Life and, and -Morrissey has visions and premonitions and I figured that out - just read about Princess Diana - these are the facts.
                  I’m really glad that Morrissey is holding this beautiful beautiful baby in his arm. I love him. Barack Obama is technically half black, but he still considers himself black. He is black. He is already planning to lower taxes for people making $250,000 a year or less. He is also trying to give extensions to people on unemployment. He is also working on plans to get us out of the hole we are in in this economy even though he won’t technically be sworn in until January. But Barack Obama is the new President of the United States of America. Morrissey, he just knew ...

                  I couldn’t sleep so I went online, and now I am finishing this Rockstar drink that I am drinking so this is my cue to drink some more.
                  Kate2828 -- Friday November 07 2008, @09:54PM (#314038)
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