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Southpaw Grammar: Album re-issue information and artwork

22 September 2008 BMG's re-issue of Morrissey's Southpaw grammar has gone back to a January release. The CD will include three previously unreleased tracks.


 
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Nice photo, (Score:0)
but the typography doesn't work at all.

cheers.

Anonymous -- Tuesday September 23 2008, @01:18AM (#312017)
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  • Re:Nice photo, by Anonymous (Score:0) Tuesday September 23 2008, @01:53AM
    • Re:Nice photo, by Anonymous (Score:0) Tuesday September 23 2008, @02:02AM
      • Re:Nice photo, by uncleskinny (Score:1) Tuesday September 23 2008, @02:10AM
        • Re:Nice photo, by Anonymous (Score:0) Tuesday September 23 2008, @02:16PM
          • Re:Nice photo, by Anonymous (Score:0) Thursday September 25 2008, @01:41PM
      • Re:Nice photo, by Anonymous (Score:0) Tuesday September 23 2008, @03:47AM
        • Re:Nice photo, by Anonymous (Score:0) Tuesday September 23 2008, @08:59PM
          • Re:Nice photo, by Agent Provocateur (Score:1) Wednesday September 24 2008, @08:28AM
            • Re:Nice photo, by Anonymous (Score:0) Saturday September 27 2008, @04:02AM
          • Re:Nice photo, by Anonymous (Score:0) Tuesday September 23 2008, @06:43AM
            Bad timing; will dilute impact of YOR (Score:0)
            should've brought out three months before or three months after.
            the three new songs may also make for unflattering comparisons with the YOR stuff (e.g. "even the Southpaw offcuts seem good compared with the new stuff")
            still, I'm glad it's coming out...
            Anonymous -- Tuesday September 23 2008, @02:47AM (#312025)
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              More Crap (Score:1)
              Oh brilliant....another three crap songs added to an already crap album....i will not be wasting my money on this rubbish.
              DeckardtheReplicant -- Tuesday September 23 2008, @03:19AM (#312028)
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              • Re:More Crap by uncleskinny (Score:1) Tuesday September 23 2008, @03:37AM
                • Re:More Crap by Eric Hartman (Score:1) Tuesday September 23 2008, @01:35PM
                  • Says you by Anonymous (Score:0) Tuesday September 23 2008, @09:57PM
                    • Re:More Crap by Anonymous (Score:0) Wednesday September 24 2008, @09:40AM
                      • Re:More Crap by Supermercado (Score:1) Monday September 29 2008, @10:45PM
                        Curious Georgette (Score:1)
                        I like it! Is there anyone sexier than he is? :)

                        The curious thing is his name placed between Southpaw and Grammar. One more Morrissey charade to just keep guessing on... :)
                        Mrs. Woolf -- Tuesday September 23 2008, @03:35AM (#312029)
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                        Crap album cover!!!!!!!!!!!!! (Score:0)
                        Where did they get that terrible photo???? Looks like some fan took it off the street in a chance meeting. Wow, if that is the final artwork Morrissey is going to be pissed. That looks like some homemade crap! I have seen way better homemade sleeves by fans on this site. I am shocked at the poor quality. RCA if you read this you MUST CHANGE THE SLEEVE!!!!!!
                        Anonymous -- Tuesday September 23 2008, @03:58AM (#312032)
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                        Flippin' Flip (Score:1)
                        What's wrong with you people?

                        The cover is solid - and it's a solid sounding album - so that works.

                        The photo is ace.

                        The album is good. Three new tracks very welcome too.

                        The crucial thing is, is this a re-issue or a re-master? I'd be interested to know what they've done with the sound if it's the latter, but how much involvement has Moz or Steve Lillywhite had?

                        Oh, and I'm a bit lost and behind the times... Which label is releasing Years Of Refusal now?

                        Stan * <stanleymchale@mac.com> -- Tuesday September 23 2008, @04:11AM (#312033)
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                        Gorgeous photo (Score:0)
                        I much prefer this to the original SG artwork.

                        I love this album. Looking forward to the new tracks.
                        Anonymous -- Tuesday September 23 2008, @05:30AM (#312036)
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                          Nice picture (Score:1)
                          I like the picture a lot. It is a good one and looks like it is from 1995, which is pleasing. A recent picture on an old album would seem odd.

                          I hope that they sort out the inner booklet as well as just the cover. It is always nice to have the lyrics and other pics as well. The original sleeve was quite bizarre, it only had the words to 'The Teachers are afraid of the Pupils' and no other pictures. It is not surprising that Mozzer is not so keen on the artwork, etc. of this album!

                          If I remember rightly, the guy who did the original sleeve is interviewed on that strange 'Jewel in the Crown' DVD.
                          cocu -- Tuesday September 23 2008, @05:30AM (#312037)
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                          sixteen clumsy and shy
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                          Nope cover (Score:0)
                          This cover is really bad.
                          Anonymous -- Tuesday September 23 2008, @06:09AM (#312040)
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                            I like it! (Score:1)
                            The colouring and typography of the text looks very reminiscent of "Station to Station" by David Bowie, and I like the photo. I vastly prefer this to the original sleeve, and it matches every other studio album by having Moz's face on it.
                            Vulpine -- Tuesday September 23 2008, @06:10AM (#312041)
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                            • Re:I like it! by Mrs. Woolf (Score:1) Tuesday September 23 2008, @01:26PM
                              • Re:I like it! by Vulpine (Score:1) Tuesday September 23 2008, @01:36PM
                              • Re:I like it! by PeelSession87 (Score:1) Wednesday September 24 2008, @02:53AM
                                ok so now re release the.... (Score:1)
                                boxers us cd only sleeve as a 12 inch single please.
                                marred -- Tuesday September 23 2008, @06:19AM (#312042)
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                                formats.. (Score:0)
                                this is getting a vinyl release?
                                Anonymous -- Tuesday September 23 2008, @06:20AM (#312043)
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                                • Re:formats.. by Anonymous (Score:0) Tuesday September 23 2008, @05:23PM
                                  Oh dear, oh dear (Score:1)
                                  He IS the most attractive person one could possibly hope to meet. GREAT photo!
                                  Martin -- Tuesday September 23 2008, @06:37AM (#312044)
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                                  A Slight Case of Overcombing
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                                  And the 3 unreleased tracks are.... (Score:0)
                                  Does anyone other than Morrissey know?
                                  Are there obvious candidates that have been 'doing the rounds' so to speak. Hmm and please Morrissey can you squeeze in 'Nobody Loves Us'?

                                  Things can only improve.

                                  Anonymous -- Tuesday September 23 2008, @06:44AM (#312047)
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                                  Jake Walters strikes again (Score:0)
                                  The cover image is by Jake Walters, from a batch of pics JW took of Morrissey in the US circa 1994. Just so you know...
                                  Anonymous -- Tuesday September 23 2008, @06:58AM (#312048)
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                                  cover photo (Score:0)
                                  In the photo it looks like Moz has just smelled something foul - kind of amusing for that reason.
                                  Anonymous -- Tuesday September 23 2008, @11:30AM (#312062)
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                                    2008 is the year of refusal... (Score:0)
                                    No new album after all.

                                    No southpaw re-release after all.

                                    No live at the Hollywood Bowl DVD after all.

                                    And no re-arranged Roundhouse shows either.

                                    2008 is a debt which must be written-off in the World of Morrissey...in my book anyway.

                                    sorrow of stamford bridge
                                    Anonymous -- Tuesday September 23 2008, @12:17PM (#312065)
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                                    three unreleased songs are... (Score:0)
                                    honey you know where to find me

                                    honey bird

                                    you should have been nice to me
                                    Anonymous -- Tuesday September 23 2008, @01:45PM (#312073)
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                                      Cover (Score:0)
                                      As Louis Walsh would say..."I Like it".

                                      Great Cover, Great album, Great inspiration for the cover but Moz as Aladdin Sane would have been more intersesting!

                                      Anonymous -- Tuesday September 23 2008, @02:01PM (#312074)
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                                        Am I crazy or is that El Paso in the backgrnd? (Score:1)
                                        I'm almost positive this pic was taken in downtown El Paso. Any fellow El Pasoans agree? I wonder what he was doing there around that time?
                                        soto <crisostimo1@yahoo.com> -- Tuesday September 23 2008, @03:09PM (#312082)
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                                          Looks cheap (Score:0)
                                          again
                                          Anonymous -- Tuesday September 23 2008, @03:09PM (#312083)
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                                            NFL Sunday (Score:0)
                                            whats with nfl sunday using every day is like sunday for a commercial? don't tell me he sold out?
                                            Anonymous -- Tuesday September 23 2008, @03:44PM (#312085)
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                                            • Re:NFL Sunday by Anonymous (Score:0) Tuesday September 23 2008, @03:58PM
                                              • Re:NFL Sunday by Anonymous (Score:0) Wednesday September 24 2008, @12:44PM
                                                • Re:NFL Sunday by Anonymous (Score:0) Wednesday September 24 2008, @03:35PM
                                                  • Re:NFL Sunday by Anonymous (Score:0) Thursday September 25 2008, @01:45PM
                                                Yes, it is El Paso (Score:1)
                                                I go to El Paso (actually Juarez, MX) from Phoenix about 2 times a month and that sign -- Paseo de las Luces -- in the background I've seen before in downtown El Paso. I'm going to El Paso this weekend...and I'll be looking for those signs:)
                                                Az Moz Fan -- Tuesday September 23 2008, @03:46PM (#312086)
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                                                A lad insane? (Score:0)
                                                Love the guy but... this sleeve is a let-down. For someone who has always shown great taste in album and single cover art, the cover is a real disappointment.

                                                To continue with the Bowie comparisons, the typography and red/black colour scheme seem to be a direct reference to Bowie's 'CHANGESONEBOWIE'.

                                                Still waiting for that tacky badge.
                                                Anonymous -- Tuesday September 23 2008, @04:37PM (#312088)
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                                                Nice (Score:1)
                                                Can't wait. Southpaw Grammar is my personal favourite.
                                                SOUTHPAWmuse -- Tuesday September 23 2008, @05:33PM (#312093)
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                                                Southwest six with someone like you, keep thieves hours with someone like you...
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                                                  wow (Score:1)
                                                  oh my god, yes!!! finally! im not sure about the artwork yet though.
                                                  MrTheEdge -- Tuesday September 23 2008, @05:58PM (#312094)
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                                                    I loved this phase!! (Score:0)
                                                    Personally...I loved his image during this "phase". He had long lost the "messy/camp" look of the early Smiths and the "financialy stable student" look of the late Smiths. This photo is also pre "lost in LA" and the current "I wear grown up suits me!" lol!

                                                    So yeah...nice cover (and yeah I get the Bowie Changes thing) that records a period when he pulled together traits of Skinead, rockabilly and....if memory serves....THE UNION JACK!!

                                                    Sheridan
                                                    Anonymous -- Tuesday September 23 2008, @09:14PM (#312100)
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                                                      Paseo de los luces? (Score:0)
                                                      I'm guessing at los

                                                      ~There Is A Light That Never Goes Out?
                                                      Anonymous -- Wednesday September 24 2008, @07:08AM (#312109)
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                                                      Sweet! (Score:0)
                                                      Sweeeeeeeet!
                                                      Anonymous -- Wednesday September 24 2008, @07:37AM (#312110)
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                                                        B-side myself (Score:1)
                                                        Looking forward to this, it will be nice to hear the two unreleased tracks that haven't yet surfaced.
                                                        Although it's not going to seem like a complete package without the b-sides on there. 'You Must Please Remember' is a great song. Maybe they've tacked the B-sides on as well
                                                        Tony Gherkins -- Wednesday September 24 2008, @08:19AM (#312112)
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                                                          Not bad. (Score:1)
                                                          I like the photo & the grainy texture. Typography could have been tweaked & refined for legibility, but it's not the worst thing i've ever seen. I actually like the original Southpaw sleeve, but I'm in the minority with that opinion... and apparently Morrissey disagrees with me as well. Overall I give this sleeve a B+/A-.
                                                          carlos -- Wednesday September 24 2008, @09:47AM (#312117)
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                                                          "This world may lack style, I know..."
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                                                            This is you on a drab day, you in a drab dress (Score:0)
                                                            Does anyone know for certain what three songs???
                                                            So much for this being the only album not to have Morrissey's face on it.

                                                            Hopefully they removed that dreadful Dagenham Dave!
                                                            Anonymous -- Wednesday September 24 2008, @10:23AM (#312119)
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                                                              Why does... (Score:0)
                                                              Morrissey have more hair now than back then? ;)
                                                              Anonymous -- Wednesday September 24 2008, @10:51AM (#312120)
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                                                              • Re:Why does... by marred (Score:1) Wednesday September 24 2008, @01:32PM
                                                                Morrissey Grammar (Score:1)
                                                                southpawMORRISSEYgrammar???

                                                                that's f. hilarious!
                                                                veggiesteak -- Wednesday September 24 2008, @01:54PM (#312126)
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                                                                  A nifty idea. (Score:1)
                                                                  I like the new cover but I don't really care. I used to really love decent artwork. God knows what happened to me!
                                                                  It'll all be for nought unless they've done a sweet remastering job on it.
                                                                  For those of you who don't like the cover by the way: all you need to do is switch the new booklet & sleeve for the old one & just pretend the extra tracks are 'hidden bonus tracks'
                                                                  AnthonyGlamour -- Wednesday September 24 2008, @02:06PM (#312128)
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                                                                    another thing... (Score:1)
                                                                    This re-issue is a nice idea, I like it. Maybe YOR is going to be that 'Balls to the wall album' that ROTT was originally going to be - Southpaw's release has perhaps been timed because it will serve fans with more of the same, or something to get fans warmed up for something similar. Or maybe it's being re-released simply because it just hasn't been readily available. Although I did see an import copy in my provincial, local HMV, around the time of YATQ.
                                                                    I remember purchasing my CD copy in one of the larger HMV stores for a whopping nineteen quid. Worth it though.
                                                                    Hell, I even like Maladjusted an awful lot; I think on the whole it's a fantastic album. I don't feel I can say this without a lot of people writing back to tell me I'm talking bollocks.
                                                                    Anyway, I hate comparing Moz to my other favourite band of the era, the Cure. But personally I can't help but feel an insy, winsy but short changed because their back catalogue is being released splendidly, with a whole second disc of unreleased tracks, demos, live versions et al. But something inside me says that this wouldn't be much of interest to Morrissey solo fans. I think the Smiths instrumental demos and versions are more of interest to the hardcore fanbase - is anyone really that bothered about instrumental Moz stuff?
                                                                    Tony Gherkins -- Wednesday September 24 2008, @04:23PM (#312131)
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                                                                    SouthpawMorrisseyGrammar (Score:1)
                                                                    It reminds me on one of those word games. How many words can you make out of SouthpawMorrisseyGrammar:

                                                                    1. South
                                                                    2. Paw
                                                                    3. Grammar
                                                                    4. to
                                                                    5. so
                                                                    6. Soap
                                                                    7. Mamma
                                                                    8. past

                                                                    The possibilities are endless!!!
                                                                    Mr. Blonde -- Wednesday September 24 2008, @10:17PM (#312137)
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                                                                    I like cheeseburgers, I really do
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                                                                    I prefer the original cover sleeve (Score:1)
                                                                    The original cover fit the title of the album perfecly.

                                                                    I know the new crop of Moz fans who are all about little more than celebrity worship just want pics of Moz.

                                                                    I don't like this idea of re-inventing albums over a decade after they were released. "Southpaw Grammar" was what it was. Take it or leave it. Don't re-invent it. Concentrate on the new album and let the albums of the past be what they were.

                                                                    Ad if this is a pic by Jake, one has to start wondering if Morrissey is trying to get back with that dude. He subjected us all to that very intimate photo in the greatest its CD. Some things are better left for your eyes only, Morrissey.

                                                                    If he wanted to put out songs that were previously unreleased, he should've scrapped that pointless greatest hits CD and released a CD of unreleased material.

                                                                    LoafingOaf * -- Thursday September 25 2008, @02:59AM (#312140)
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                                                                    Fuck it, Dude. Let's go bowling.
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                                                                      Bowie; He was interesting then......not now (Score:0)
                                                                      Oh Morrissey, Morrissey, Morrissey why persist with the Bowie connection? It can't be unrelated to the lives dates you spent promoting Southpaw, touring with David. Is this an acknowledgement that you've put all that behind you? Can you talk to Bowie. I hope you've got closure. Perhaps you didn't have a hand in the design of the new cover.
                                                                      Anonymous -- Thursday September 25 2008, @04:45AM (#312142)
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                                                                      New Recordings? (Score:0)
                                                                      Since the 3 bonus songs were obviously never completed, I wonder if they're new recordings or maybe new vocals. Does anyone actually know? One or the other must be the case.

                                                                      Had they been finished them at the time, I think we'd have them already. Someone would've got their hand on them and shared.

                                                                      -Micropenis
                                                                      Anonymous -- Thursday September 25 2008, @10:15AM (#312149)
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                                                                      great picture (Score:0)
                                                                      didn't know who the guy on cover was or cared.
                                                                      some boxer..(he was used as backdrop also)
                                                                      this pic is much better and w` 3 tracks
                                                                      that we dont have (lol)
                                                                      it should just fill in the cd like it was
                                                                      intended - w` sunny and nobody loves us
                                                                      although ill take 3 unreleased
                                                                      have everything ,so they better truly
                                                                      be unreleased
                                                                      Anonymous -- Thursday September 25 2008, @02:36PM (#312157)
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                                                                        southpaw defence (Score:1)
                                                                        i never understood the negativity surrounding this album, but maybe the fact there's only 8 songs on it and 2 of them are drawn out a little too long don't help. but there are some real good songs on it! Saying all that i'm against the re releasing of old albums, there all gem's and should be left alone
                                                                        tommo -- Friday September 26 2008, @08:03AM (#312176)
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                                                                        Is he still mourning hector - the first of the (Score:0)
                                                                        gays to die
                                                                        such a silly aids culprit
                                                                        you queer bastard
                                                                        if you dont get it, you should be castrated

                                                                        Then aqain.
                                                                        Even if you did---

                                                                        irene

                                                                        gone and long forgotten
                                                                        Anonymous -- Monday September 29 2008, @12:53PM (#312270)
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                                                                          southpaw is not south-poor. (Score:1)
                                                                          the new cover is excellent.
                                                                          i have nothing else to say.
                                                                          inlovewiththepast -- Tuesday September 30 2008, @05:19AM (#312281)
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                                                                          truth rest your head there is more than a life at stake here..she may well sell sanctuary but she'll also sell your soul
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