"Fans back Morrissey in 'NME' racism row" - The Independent
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Fans back Morrissey in 'NME' racism row - The Independent
By Jerome Taylor
Published: 01 December 2007

After the week he's just had, Morrissey can at least sing with some authority that famous line: "Now I know how Joan of Arc felt." Ever since NME published its now notorious interview with the outspoken singer, in which he said Britain had lost its identity and has been "flooded" with immigrants, the former Smiths frontman has risked the bonfire of his own reputation as an idol for successive indie generations.

But the average Morrissey fan, it seems, is determined to defend the reputation of a singer they say remains one of the country's best songwriters, not withstanding the occasional unfortunate soundbite.

 
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Everybody's average nowadays... (Score:0)
Er...Who's that? Won't the real average fan, please stand up, please stand up.

Anonymous -- Sunday December 02 2007, @02:44PM (#286675)
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    Dork.. (Score:1)
    Don't insult me and my friends,veterans of many shows,as average fans....NEVER!
    KEVSTER -- Sunday December 02 2007, @03:05PM (#286685)
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    • Re:Dork.. by Anonymous (Score:0) Monday December 03 2007, @12:57PM
      Average fan (Score:0)
      Hey, whether you are average or not, you are still a Morrissey fan and one of the 200,000+ people who paid for the last few albums or went to the last few hundred concerts (!)

      I am proud to be independent and average.

      Strawberry.
      Anonymous -- Sunday December 02 2007, @03:52PM (#286698)
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        bad ending to article (Score:0)
        they didn't understand the point of view used in Bengali in platform. unfortunate they got a quote from a fan who also misunderstood.
        Anonymous -- Sunday December 02 2007, @05:29PM (#286734)
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          1ST Moseley (Score:0)
          who was the head of the British Union of Fascists
          in the 30's now Mozeley for the 21st Century!
          Legions of Black Shirted Mexicans marching through
          L.A. demanding all the Foreign scum are kicked out of England ! Heil Moz

          Anonymous -- Sunday December 02 2007, @08:34PM (#286753)
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            Morrissey described the UK reality (Score:0)
            We "average" fans back him because we live in the ugly, Labour-created reality that England IS a dumping ground for the world. Morrissey simply described the reality of the UK today. Where do these blind PC journalist toffs live, in a bubble?
            Anonymous -- Monday December 03 2007, @05:16AM (#286796)
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              NME vs. Morrissey and artistic/immigrant freedom (Score:1)
              Monday morn, December 3, 2007

              National and/or cultural sovereignty should not be something that needs to be spelled out to the Morrissey audience, nor should the man's ethics. Please re-listen carefully to "In Mexico," "The National Front Disco," "We'll Let You Know," "Bengali In Platforms," "Irish Blood, English Heart," "Asian Rut," etcetera. Given the fact that philosophical views on cultural memory, cultural identity, and history have long been expressed within Morrissey's art and interviews, it would be unfortunate to find that his audience would be easily manipulated.

              In conversation with my best friend, who accompanied me to the initial and ultimate of the 2007 performances at the Fillmore (S.F.--he was able to afford more nights than I, but I was the only one who touched the stage, getting much of my body on stage, with help from other devoted fans, mostly women by the way, before being dragged and strangled by security; thanks to the bloke, however, who quietly knocked the security guard down and allowed me to escape back into the blissful audience--but I digress)...

              Yes, in conversation with my friend this morning as we read this item, he noted how Morrissey has mentioned in past interviews (my friend saw recently on 'YouTube') that the difference between Morrissey's music and so much of the rest out there is that, when creating his art, Morrissey can assume that his audience is intelligent. (I would venture to add critical as well.) In popular music, too often, the audience and music press will assume that lyrics or themes are always framed from a first-person perspective (consider "Reel Around the Fountain" and the tabloid vilification work by "The Sun"). Needless to say, this literary/lyrical factor of narration or literary point of view (or first-person versus second-person or third-person, etcetera), this alone and any laziness on the part of the audience, makes tackling complex themes by artists or others easy to exploit by unscrupulous journalists. Moreover, such bad journalism can be easily digested by less than critical readers.

              I love what we have come to know as English and British culture, independent of the negative aspects such as imperialism and colonialism. In the same way I love Mexican culture as well, independent of its negative and imperialistic aspects. The same could be said for Chinese culture, independent of its imperialistic aspects with regard to Tibet, say. The world over, we might repeatedly find the same thing. As a person born in the U.S. (a young nation entirely comprised of immigrants, European and otherwise), however, I can appreciate the culture and history of the U.S., independent from the negative and imperialistic aspects also. Nevertheless, the fact is that U.S. hegemony is eroding all cultures around the globe. Once England looks and sounds like Disneyland, in the same way that China, or India, or Mecca, or anywhere else may soon look like Disneyland, perhaps then we may begin to understand what Morrissey might actually intend by the erosion of any kind of national or cultural identity. If such cultural erosion of identity continues to happen (not only in England, but the world over), we will all have become effectively conformed and homogenized. But isn't diversity the spice of life? And shouldn't this acceptance of diversity apply to regional or national cultures as well as to the individual human being's right to immigrate freely throughout the globe? I am all for the freedom of human beings to move around the globe freely. Yet, at the same time, I am all for the preservation of historical memory and, to that end, as well the protection of cultural sovereignty against globalised manipulation of peoples, especially the poor, which creates forced or artificial, economically-induced refugees. In other words, most immigrants move about out of sheer desperation above all else.

              It seems what we are talking about here, with regard to England, is a kind of reverse colonialism whereby the influx of immigrants is hyper-fueled by global socioecon

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              messinamorrissey -- Monday December 03 2007, @02:19PM (#286921)
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