holy shit!

told you so........hit the road jackie....

Was this from some email list off her site that you signed up for or was it a personal exchange you were privy to? I'm just curious. No one else has any reports of this outside of the rumors.

Assuming it's not some sort of prank, I'll admit it's a slight bit of a surprise this far into the tour.

At long last we've got rid of the silly tart...Not many here on the crew are crying!

OH MY GOD OH MY GOD OH MY GOD OH MY GOD

Oh my god, I can't believe it.

I mean, I really can't.

WOW.

Love his music but you hear all the shit he does.
I have no desire to ever meet him otherwise Id probably end up hating his music.

Oh my god.

Well, you know what? I feel kind of sorry for her.

No actually... I feel REALLY sorry for her. She obviously loves him -- loves him like I do, like many of us do.

God, I don't dig your music Kristeen, but I will never forget the small kindness you extended me once upon a time, and I am so SORRY for you. I know you're hurting, but know that at least someone out there empathizes with you.

It must hurt beyond words to be hurt by the man, even though I see where he's coming from.

dang it!!!

i hate opening bands! she was the only exception.
I was so looking forward to seeing her again in baltimore. she is so unique and passionate.

touring with morrissey was not so great for her, kinda the equivilant of the pixies touring with u2 - the audience just didnt get them and didnt care to.

oh well.

How will Visconti react to this - assuming that he and KY are indeed "close"?

A different producer for the next album?

My vote goes to John Cale - he'd give Moz's songs a twist, but still leave the sheen.

Go on Morrissey, give him a call.

i wish it would have happened sooner.
like..on the first night of the palladium shows.
but look on the bright side..she will probably get a lot of press out of this..or as much press as you can get with Morrissey being involved.

I have to hold my hand up; I didn't see this one coming. Can hardly believe it. What's stranger is that Morrissey and Visconti have this close relationship (or did) and Visconti is with Kristeen, right? So this may well affect the forthcoming album, which was, as far as anyone outside the inner circle could tell, due to be produced by Visconti. It's hard to see how Visconti could continue working with Moz after this. And you'd think that given Moz and Visconti were supposedly fairly 'close'(-ish) Moz might have been inclined to give Kristeen a second chance. But there you have it.

It was a stupid and not very witty thing to say on Kristeen's part, but I would never have imagined Moz would react like this. But he is unpredictable at times, isn't he.

Thank God she finally did something to tick Morrissey off, because god knows she's ticked me off every freakin' time I've had to **stand through** her uninteresting, boring, non-melodic "shreakfest" posed as a performance.

Personally I think he should track down Mary Margaret O'Hara again..now **there's** a true musical talent and vocalist!

I have to get there earlier Saturday and Sunday?

A Smiths cover band?

Has this been done before ever, any other artist? :)

Jens Lekman should open. Goodbye Kristeen.

everyone can bitch about morrissey being a primadonna and a rock star and a diva, but would you want your opening act adding to already existing rumors that you're dating them when you very much are not? i know morrissey has always been surrounded by rumors, but most of them have been much more flattering than "he's fucking kristeen young." i'd throw her off too.

I was actually really looking forward to seeing Kristeen play tonight, more than any other opening band in my history of concert-going. When I heard she was opening for Moz's tour, I had no idea who she was, but started to search out her music. The more I learned about her (and the more I listened to her music), the more I liked her.

She's...odd, that's true. But it's what makes her so intriguing. I really don't understand what the big fuss was about her comments the other night. I found them amusing. This definitely puts a "taint" to tonight's show. I really hope Moz isn't "off" tonight because of this either. I definitely hope this wasn't a Moz decision, and was instead a mangement decision (doesn't make it any better, but I'd hate to think Moz was so thin-skinned).

I hope you get kicked off the Ted Leo tour too.

And Cheyenne I hope you are reading this and crying!

I come back from a week off to find Moz in denim and KY gone??? Life's good!

Ok mayb she did push it a bit too far, and mayb he acted slightly like a diva, but...

I can't say I'm sad!

I know I just came crawling from under a rock, but what was it that she said that has lead to all this?

a bad thing...
Seriously!

hey everybody....

ok, so....basically we just got a call a half hour ago to find out that we in fact ARE NOT now opening for Morrissey after all. as it turns out, friends of his, a NYC band called "Girlfriend In A Coma" are now opening up the shows, and
Morrissey has apparently apologized and told us that he is "very, very sorry",
that he likes Vetiver very much, but that "it just doesn't make sense".

you're telling me!

so anyway, no hard feelings, we're all actually very excited to head home and get some rest, and i'm sure all of this will be for the best.

tour w/ Morrissey? we Never Had No One Ever!

love to you all,

Vetiver

There had been a minor scandal which she felt to compelled to 'correct' in a myspace posting, after she did that photoshoot with Moz between her legs (and there was some quote attributed to her in the article where she supposedly said she was excited by having her legs wrapped around his head. Which she denied she had said).

So especially considering there was that 'history' there already, it was an even stupider thing to say. Maybe that was why Moz was as unhappy about this as he was.

Its another stupid Rumor.

Good grief... If those words were beautiful or intelligent, I'm obviously on the wrong planet.

I missed the scandals around Mozzie.
There had not been any since a long time, which was a little sad.
So, it is the first and the last time I will say "thank you" to you, Kristeen! (Thank you to leave too.Second time, sorry)

Huge drama news, obviously.

I can't help regret, though, that I won't be seeing her in Atlanta. I always liked her music and stuff and I was hoping to get some merch. in November. Oh well.

Goodbye and Goodluck, Kristeen.

So wrong. Once I have gathered my thoughts I'll be back.

I noticed some people wondering if this was going to put a rift between the producer and Moz, but has it occurred to anyone Visconti might also have taken offense to his girlfriend casually talking about the quality of another man's licking style? Maybe this marks the end of a Visconti/Young relationship rather than his and Moz's?

She got kicked to the curb. Hurrayyy!!!!!!!!!!!

That's why--the tour's losing so much money. Not enough t-shirts are being sold. So the promoters have told him to fire her to try and recoup some $$$$!!!

She's gone. OK? Are you happy? you all get what you want. May you all enjoy whatever non-challenging, sycophantic, forgettable shit he next picks to open his shows.

I see his side of things - she compromised his hard-built aesthetic - but I think he's making a big mistake not lowering his ego enough to say "I forgive you."

What she said may have been somewhat regrettable but given the circumstances, is it really so strange? She's human. Morrissey asked for Elton John to BEHEADED, but when Elton John's response was to praise the Smiths, Morrissey recanted and took back his "bigmouth" moment.

That he won't do the same for Kris- a partner, collaborator, artistic comrade, and -above all else, a FRIEND- is sad. But he's Morrissey and he calls the shots. Look at his legacy...Johnny...Mike Joyce...Stephen Street...David Bowie...the list goes on.

She made an irresponsible comment, yeah...but you fuckheads couldn't wait to stone her.

It's funny, because I was listening to a bootleg the other night from earlier in the tour where he closes by saying "Hold on to your friends, take risks, be careful." Ironic.

He's as much of a hypocrite as he is a genius. Which means he's one hell of a fantastic hypocrite.

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Hooray for all Morrissey-solos.

Blah,blah,blah.

...according to their MySpace page they already have another show tonight?

I'm confused!

I'm in shock. I wasn't a fan of hers but I don't think she deserves to go out like this. Morrissey, can't you take a joke?

Girl in a Coma..ehh not so hot :(

Just as with Christ, who was despised and threatened with death from the first moment of his public tenure, you Pharisees have gotten her on a technicality.

For the last year and a half you have done nothing but boo her, heckle her, wish her gone, wish her dead, wish you could fuck her, wish she would give up...but she remained, because all she needed was him. And her own artistic integrity, which I assure you, she has in abundance. Every bit as much as HE does. It's just a different kind of art.

Do you know how brave and how strong she must be to have weathered the bile and venom spewed at her in buckets ever since this thing began last year?

Even if you don't like her music -which is hard for me to understand, but anyway- even if you don't like her music, you should support her as a feminist, as an artist, and as a fellow Morrissey apostle. She has done NOTHING to you people.

"Oh dear god! A woman spoke openly about oral sex! Let's kill her!"

This country's attitude towrd female sexuality is so fucked and so repressed and so archaic it makes me ill.

Jesus...what country/era are you idiots from?

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Does anybody know the name of the song she did that had the words:

"I am, I am, I am" in the chorus. Fuck I love that song.

xxxxx

Shame how he can't take a harmless little joke.

What a mean spirited old tart he can be.

Wish he had done this before the Tijuana and LA concerts...

In case you ever read this:

Please don't let this get at you. I know you won't, but as a reminder, just move on, and try to focus on what's important to you: your art, and also focus on what he doesn't focus on: other people, love, hope, life.

I told him off. And it may not mean anything, but you have my entire support. And what you said made me laugh.

Keep on rocking in a free world, and if you ever tour Canada, I'll try to go check your bum ;-)

There's nothing wrong with cunnilingus; it's only Morrissey who doesn't know that. Thanks for trying to teach him. But he's hopeless, honey. I should have warned you better.
I'm sorry I didn't get through.

All the best

Steph.

So no more KY singles on Attack label? But then nobody knows for sure whether Morrissey is still on Attack? Warners? Sanctuary? I was just listening to Russell Brand interviewing Morrissey earlier on this year and Morrissey praised KY to high heavens....how things change.

And that is that nobody messes around with Morrissey! Since the Smiths to the present day. But then again it is his career and his life, so I suppose if you dont like something, it has to go.

What was the artistic point you were trying to make, Love?

Now I don't have to bring ear plugs to the shows anymore. Thank you Morrissey!

looks like she needs to update "Kill the Father"

"rip out morrissey's pompadore"

lol

jk.

this whole thing is so enigmatic.

i love both acts personally.

from God. It said that if you boil songs that
should be pop, then it will evaporate in the
end. But I still love you only half as I use to.

a) What she said offended his aesthetic sensibilities...his form of subversiveness has always been more highbrow...i.e.; "is there any point ever having children"...THIS is a very offensive, subversive statement...yet phrased in a Morrisseyan package. Blunt, dressed-down quips about giving head have never been his style, so it's no shock he would want to distance himself from the person who made those statements...and on HIS stage, no less.

b)his family was in the audience, WHICH SHE KNEW

c)He is aware of the (false) rumours surrounding his romantic involvement/interest with/in her. As was she. Making that comment to friends or to those in the know, in private company, is one thing, but saying it to a huge crowd who doesn't get you to begin with and also doesn't WANT to get you, and who ALREADY thinks there's something sexual going on...this is the height of irresponsibility.

d) Morrissey is repressed. He built a public image on celibacy...and it wasn't just an IMAGE! What's more, he has labored and toiled for a quarter century to stay sexually ambiguous and to keep his day to day life guarded like Fort Knox. Her comments - though taken WAY out of context by the repressed, puritanical audience- compromised his image GREATLY.

Yes, his abandonment of her is something of a betrayal, or at least seems harsh, but in a way, she let HIM down first. He respected her artistic integrity and she KNEW what kind of crowd she was dealing with. She overestimated the audience's appreciation of her art/sense of humour and crossed the line, aesthetically, in the context of a Morrissey affiliation.

Yes her statements were obvious hyperbole and meant to incite, etc...and I understand that, and alot of people understand that...probably even Morrissey understands that...but she picked the wrong time, wrong venue, wrong context. A mistake, yes..and I hate that she got sacked but...it's not as outrageous as it seems. (the firing, I mean.)

It's not that profound, people. He loves Kristeen as an artist but he has come too far to allow mistakes. So she was martyred for her art..which in a way is a fitting end to her career with Morrissey, a martyr in many ways himself. It's just a shame they're on different sides of the stake this time.

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