Morrissey in Rome?
posted by davidt on Tuesday September 04 2007, @11:00AM

Valentina writes:
Hey,
I can't believe it I've just seen Morrissey hanging out in Rome!

He was in Pigneto, some trendy area with bars etc but mostly unknown to tourists, with a gay guy who owns a local winebar, who was introducing him to some other people.

He was very relaxed, dressed in black (black jacket & trousers, white t-shirt), and everyone was looking at him since he was totally unexpected, but the situation was too "friendly" to go and ask for signing...

He has been drinking some wine then he left with that guy, around midnight.

I am sure at 99.9% he was him, I thought anyway he should have been in the US touring still but he seems to be on holidays maybe... I'll check his fave hotel in the next days to get to know more...
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remteex also writes:
The man should be back in Rome, last night has be spotted in a bar in the Pigneto area, drinking a glass of red wine.

 
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yeah and no one took pictures (Score:0)
i say it's a troll trying to start morrissey is gay rumors.
Anonymous -- Tuesday September 04 2007, @11:04AM (#273017)
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oh here we go again... (Score:0)
He must have gone to The Sphinx next, right?
Anonymous -- Tuesday September 04 2007, @11:23AM (#273019)
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gawd (Score:1)
i thought i had "rumors" turned off. or is this not posted in rumors but rather news? i don't like seeing this crap. who cares?!
fut -- Tuesday September 04 2007, @11:25AM (#273020)
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    stir stir stir (Score:0)
    you nosy little fucker. so what if he was in rome? that stinks.
    Anonymous -- Tuesday September 04 2007, @11:50AM (#273025)
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      Aww High Hopes! (Score:1)
      Aww I sure hope he is having a fabulous time:)

      He surely deserves it.
      Marisela -- Tuesday September 04 2007, @11:57AM (#273027)
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        SoLow fans are still ill (Score:1)
        "I'll check his fave hotel in the next days to get to know more..."

        Sicko stalker.
        LoafingOaf * -- Tuesday September 04 2007, @12:15PM (#273031)
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        Fuck it, Dude. Let's go bowling.
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          bullshit (Score:0)
          funny, i thought i saw him at "the boom boom room"
          Anonymous -- Tuesday September 04 2007, @12:53PM (#273036)
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          • Re:bullshit by shiglem (Score:1) Tuesday September 04 2007, @04:54PM
            Please (Score:0)
            Everyone knows Morrissey is as straight
            as the day is long.
            Anonymous -- Tuesday September 04 2007, @01:03PM (#273037)
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            • Re:Please by Anonymous (Score:0) Tuesday September 04 2007, @08:32PM
              • Re:Please by Anonymous (Score:0) Wednesday September 05 2007, @02:35AM
                so what (Score:0)
                Did I write Morrissey is gay?
                Nope. I wrote "he was with a gay guy". Is it a problem hanging out with a gay guy? Does it mean Morrissey is gay?

                I'm not english mother language but it seems to me there was no explicit statement about his sexuality. It is what is: he was out with a gay guy who drove him (probably) home anywhere he was staying at.
                End of the game.

                Anonymous -- Tuesday September 04 2007, @01:38PM (#273041)
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                • Re:so what by Anonymous (Score:0) Tuesday September 04 2007, @08:26PM
                  • Re:so what by Anonymous (Score:0) Wednesday September 05 2007, @12:34AM
                    • Re:so what by Anonymous (Score:0) Wednesday September 05 2007, @03:16AM
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                            • Re:so what by Anonymous (Score:0) Wednesday September 05 2007, @04:08AM
                              Mamma Roma (Score:1)
                              It's great to know he's back in Europe..Rome.. congratulations on your sighting.
                              But please - don't check out his hotel. Let him have his well-deserved break and a little privacy.
                              WalkersCrisp -- Tuesday September 04 2007, @01:49PM (#273044)
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                                Morrissey sighting in Rome (Score:0)
                                Morrissey is straight as the day is long??
                                Are you people delusional?? Personally I do not care if he is gay or straight, however if you think he's straight you have got to be in a state of delusion. Who are these who believe he is straight? Fifteen year olds who have just discovered Morrissey?? Listen to his lyrics, look at his entire persona. What straight man could pull that off??
                                Get off your fricken high horses and wake up. Quit condemning those who say he is gay. It's only an opinion, however anyone with any sense of what is happening in the world can figure this great "mystery" out.
                                For those ( read: BRITISH) who 've read this and are now going to jump my shyte , piss off, k? Enough with Morrissey and Britain blah blah, last time I checked he moved from there, quite a while ago. Isn't there a British Morrissey fan site you can go to and bicker amongst yourselves??
                                Anonymous -- Tuesday September 04 2007, @02:13PM (#273046)
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                                trollocks! (Score:0)
                                all of it. unsubstantiated rumour. get rid
                                Anonymous -- Tuesday September 04 2007, @02:24PM (#273048)
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                                  gay (Score:0)
                                  For all you ppl that *still* under the impressing to think he's straight this oughta be proof enough to convert you.

                                  As gay as a 2 dollar bill I'm afraid.
                                  Anonymous -- Tuesday September 04 2007, @03:23PM (#273055)
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                                  • Re:gay by Anonymous (Score:0) Tuesday September 04 2007, @04:05PM
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                                              • its 2 dollar bill by Anonymous (Score:0) Tuesday September 04 2007, @06:43PM
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                                            • Re:gay by tenforum (Score:1) Tuesday September 04 2007, @06:44PM
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                                                  • two dollars by Anonymous (Score:0) Tuesday September 04 2007, @11:25PM
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                                                  • Re:Very educational… by goinghome (Score:1) Wednesday September 05 2007, @01:06PM
                                                • Re:gay by Anonymous (Score:0) Wednesday September 05 2007, @01:17AM
                                                  Homosexual Panic (Score:0)
                                                  It's always fun to read these stories because you know that the comments section will soon be filled with bitter statements from the "fingers in their ears" crowd.

                                                  This is further evidence that most Morrissey fans on this site are socially retarded when it comes to the issue of sexuality.

                                                  He's gay. Get over it. He's not going to sleep with any of the women on this site. But look on the bright side, many of the women on this site still have a chance to connect with him, and become his devoted shopping buddy.

                                                  Maybe you'll interest him so much that he'll take advantage of you like most other gay men who befriend women with low self-confidence. He can be your fake boyfriend. You won't have to broach the issue of sex, so you're frigid celibacy can main intact.

                                                  Enjoy.
                                                  Anonymous -- Tuesday September 04 2007, @05:33PM (#273071)
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                                                  c'mon guys! (Score:0)
                                                  he can have both!!!
                                                  Anonymous -- Tuesday September 04 2007, @06:32PM (#273078)
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                                                    Ha Ha I do think he is gay.. (Score:0)
                                                    the song skin storm gives it away. it's really a song about 2 guys playing with their foreskins..
                                                    hence the title. =clever swine morrissey!
                                                    Anonymous -- Tuesday September 04 2007, @06:38PM (#273079)
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                                                    peace upon him (Score:1)
                                                    sot he fighting and debating about Moz mojo in bed will ya! c'mon, why dont we just watch his live DVD or live performs,,,more relaxing than rambling about his secrecy,,,but im okay with this news, let this guy express his discovery.
                                                    Peter Marr -- Tuesday September 04 2007, @07:04PM (#273084)
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                                                      gay or straight. (Score:1)
                                                      gay or straight it doesn't matter to me.
                                                      we all long to run on stage and hold the man so near to us and none of us can lie about that.
                                                      i know i can't.
                                                      and it'd be absurd for any of you to say so.

                                                      regardless, why even point out the man he was with is gay?
                                                      nowherefast944 -- Tuesday September 04 2007, @07:15PM (#273086)
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                                                        No proof..don't care then... (Score:0)
                                                        Why is this front morrissey-solo page? Where's the proof? Can I post a story about seeing Morrissey hanging out with George Micheal at the Subway downtown and get on the front page here?
                                                        Anonymous -- Tuesday September 04 2007, @07:44PM (#273090)
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                                                        disappointed (Score:0)
                                                        i started listening to morrissey in the mid eighties and thank god there were no sites like this to "discuss" his habits or sexuality, or i may have spent all of my time looking at the computer. i check occasionally to find concert news and i always leave feeling more mentally healthy then when i came. so thanks
                                                        Anonymous -- Tuesday September 04 2007, @07:45PM (#273091)
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                                                          Interesting... (Score:0)
                                                          Am I the only one who thinks it's pretty funny how most everyone on here ( except for a select few) posted as Anon?
                                                          Anonymous -- Tuesday September 04 2007, @08:30PM (#273108)
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                                                          The whole "a gay claim! outrageous!" debate (Score:0)
                                                          For those who honestly claim that Morrissey is straight, how can you overlook about 20+ years of evidence to the contrary? Really, I'm inclined to believe that you actually aren't familiar with most of the evidence, that you're aware pretty much of the major songs and interviews, but nothing too deep. You haven't read any books on the man or done too much investigation into what he's singing about (Clause 28, Palare, etc.). Below is just some of the evidence that I can think up OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD. I'm sure there's so much more. BTW, I say all this with no judgement at all. I don't care if someone's straight, gay, or completely asexual. But let's not always default to this position that being straight is safest, that other people are gay and not MY idols.

                                                          -The covers of Smiths singles and albums, chosen by Morrissey: the Hand in Glove single, the Smiths LP picture, Candy Darling, etc.

                                                          -Morrissey stated while in the Smiths that his two most autobiographical songs were "I Want the One I can't Have" and "Stretch out and Wait." Think over these lines then: "A tough kid who sometimes swallows nails
                                                          Raised on Prisoner's Aid He killed a policeman when he was Thirteen And somehow that really impressed Me And it's written all over my face, "On the day that your mentality Catches up with your biology," "Amid concrete and clay And general decay Nature must still find a way So ignore all the codes of the day"

                                                          -Think about these songs: "Reel Around the Fountain" (do you even know what that means---compare it with Moz's love of double entendres), "Pretty Girls Make Graves" (hello!), "Shopliftes of the World Unite" (about Clause 28---"my only weakness is a listed crime").

                                                          -The James Dean fixation. Morrissey himself has said that it had nothing to do with the man's acting abilities, that it was entirely aesthetic. Who else has he admired? Jobriath! The women he's admired? Mostly old songstresses (not Barbra Streisand or Judy Garland, mind you, but not young sexpots either).

                                                          -Songs covered: I Want a Boy for Christmas, Golden Lights.

                                                          -Morrissey's own statements that he ended up visiting several gay bars in his early 20s. Some say the inspiration for "so you go and you stand on your own, and you leave on your own..."

                                                          -The very existence of Jake. The pictures, the fake tattooing (anyone aware of what a drawn swallow on the skin used to mean in gay subcultures?), how after Jake's departure Morrissey talked about a falling-out with someone he loved, then penning "Sunny"---look at the lyrics. Also: "I could have mentioned your name, I could have dragged you in, guilt by implication, by association, but I'll always stay true to you."

                                                          -The obsession with young roughs. As evident in I want the One I Can't Have, and of course all over Your Arsenal.

                                                          -The great interest in and knowledge of homosexual subcultures, like in Picadilly Palare.

                                                          -Other songs: He Knows I'd Love to See Him, I Just Want to See the Boy Happy, I am Hated for Loving, Christian Dior, Wide to Receive, The Boy Racer (talking about a good-looking young man, then saying defensively "I'm jealous, that's all"), Swallow on My Neck, You Have Killed Me ("nothing entered me, till you came with the key"), This Charming Man.

                                                          -His favorite Ludus song is "Breaking the Rules." He said it was beautiful how Linder could sing of "four males" coming together and acknowledgin that that is love.

                                                          -Morrissey's relationship with James Maker in their younger years. And what's Maker say about that relationship?

                                                          -And lastly, from Morrissey himself in an interview with Nick Kent: "I was always attracted to men or women who were never attracted to me. And I was never attracted to women or men who were attracted to me. So that's the problem. I've never met the right person."
                                                          Anonymous -- Tuesday September 04 2007, @09:33PM (#273121)
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                                                          To the poster above. (Score:0)
                                                          Finally, someone with some intelligence on here.

                                                          Like I said before, people naively associate Morrissey's determination to not being labeled a "homosexual" as being an admission to "bisexuality," or even the always comical "heterosexuality." In reality, it's just a desire to not be labeled in any way, period.

                                                          Morrissey is a bona-fide loner. Those who aren't of this persuasion have a hard time comprehending the intensity of this mindset. Morrissey's desire to not be slotted as a "homosexual," a term that brings with it cultural connotations, as well as sexual ones, is merely an outcrop of that mindset.

                                                          Of course, constantly perceiving Morrissey as some mythic, sexual being serves two purposes for his primary fan-base:

                                                          1. Female Morrissey fans can continue to have fantasies about Morrissey, however unrealistic.

                                                          2. Heterosexual males can feel a bit more comfortable about relating so intensely to a homosexual artist.

                                                          It is my perception that most Morrissey fans are male, and female heterosexuals, so it shouldn't come as a surprise that there will be some resistance, and even outright delusion about the true nature of Morrissey's sexuality. Morrissey, himself fuels this debate as well.

                                                          Unlike other artists who display their homosexuality as a center piece, Morrissey has attracted a much more generalized, loner following that is more attracted by his aloofness, and sense of individuality than an allegiance with a homosexual movement.
                                                          Anonymous -- Tuesday September 04 2007, @11:05PM (#273131)
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                                                            Enjoy yourself, Morrissey! :-) (Score:1)
                                                            Sounds like Morrissey had a nice evening: going out with a friend, having a glass of wine, being introduced to new people - & all without being bothered by fans for autographs. I´m always happy when I read stories like that. There are so many stories around about how Morrissey used to just sit alone in his hotel rooms & so on. So when I read about him having a good time it puts a smile on my face. :-)

                                                            I find it a bit sad though that the only attention this article gets is for the word "gay" appearing in it. All the sex-experts coming out of their holes again to teach the world about Morrissey´s sexuality. Why don´t we leave it to him, it´s his business alone.
                                                            Cashews -- Wednesday September 05 2007, @01:36AM (#273143)
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                                                              Why discuss this again? (Score:1)
                                                              Why are people discussing his sexuality in this thread? Do we really have to go through this for the umpteenth time? It's like the same anonymous comment being posted over and over again. The person merely wrote that they had seen him in Rome, whether true or not, and made no statement that could indicate he was one way or the other. Now if they had spotted him taking part in an orgy, then by all means talk about it, but I fail to see what this story has to do with his sexuality. He was with a man who happened to be gay - big deal.

                                                              I'm not taking sides here, but people should really stop stating that he is gay/straight/whatever as a fact. We don't know, we can only assume - but nobody here knows anything for a fact.

                                                              To the original poster: please don't stalk him at his hotel. Leave the man in peace, he deserves a little privacy.
                                                              maybe -- Wednesday September 05 2007, @01:46AM (#273144)
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                                                              This is bollocks (Score:0)
                                                              Morrissey is in LA recording and preparing for the tour.
                                                              Anonymous -- Wednesday September 05 2007, @03:14AM (#273151)
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                                                                We didn't start it. (Score:0)
                                                                Discussing a person's sexual persuasion is apart of discussing their biography. Sexuality is likely the most important thing you could discuss when analyzing someone's personality. It says a lot about them, and it can even influence political, and social beliefs.

                                                                You two need to calm down. The discussion veered toward a sexual one when people suggested that Morrissey couldn't possibly be gay. Sometimes discussions wind their way around different subjects. It's perfectly natural.

                                                                Most of this outcry likely comes from the female contingent of the Morrissey fanbase. It has that naive, "my gay best friend will eventually fall in love with me" attitude written all over it.

                                                                I've seen this delusion expressed by fag-hags many times. They don't seem to pick up on the signs of homosexuality because they have little experience with the opposite sex. To them, gay guys are just FUN! They simply want a relationship without the sex, and gay friends serve that purpose wonderfully.

                                                                But it has to make you feel stupid when it's actually admitted by that by person.
                                                                Anonymous -- Wednesday September 05 2007, @03:27AM (#273156)
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                                                                  mozz spotted in rome (Score:1)
                                                                  the truth is that no-one knows his sexuality.and frankly who cares,its all about the music .viva mozz.
                                                                  crazybear -- Wednesday September 05 2007, @05:57AM (#273162)
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                                                                    Is Morrissey a killer? (Score:0)
                                                                    Morrissey has never come out in his lyrics to say he is straight, bi-sexual or gay. However, he DID say he killed a nun and a horse and also that he was going to shoot his dog and then he shot himself. So if we're going to use his lyrics to claim he's on one side or the other then where does THIS leave us?

                                                                    - Truer Poetry
                                                                    Anonymous -- Wednesday September 05 2007, @08:26AM (#273176)
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                                                                      What differance does it make? (Score:1)
                                                                      In reading everything you write and listening to everything say, seeing you live 8X this year (w 12 on the map), I have less "sure" opinions about your sexuality now then I ever have. When I was not a fan of yours, I was sure you were gay.
                                                                      The more I fell in love w your music/words, voice/person, the less I cared if you were gay or not. What I thought I knew about that, I no longer know. I'll love you Moz either way/both ways.
                                                                      You have change my soul forever in your music and your live interaction with my family and friends and I at shows..
                                                                      The more I think of it, it is better this way, I don't want to see you labled.
                                                                      David the wind blows -- Wednesday September 05 2007, @08:27AM (#273177)
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                                                                      Handsome Devil (Score:0)
                                                                      Moz made it clear from the very beginning...in "Handsome Devil", his most obviously gay song. He has been more mysterious since, but the cat was already out of the bag.

                                                                      DISCLAIMER - I have noticed a twinkle in his eyes on this last tour when he hugged or lifted a few particularly lovely ladies...hmm. Anyone else notice this?
                                                                      Anonymous -- Wednesday September 05 2007, @08:34AM (#273181)
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