PNC Bank (Holmdel, NJ) show postponed also
posted by davidt on Tuesday July 03 2007, @04:00PM

grlmopz writes:
According to True-to-You, the next show will be the rescheduled show in Boston. The wording of the statement is such that some postponed shows might not be made up.

 
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The west coast is the best coast (Score:0)
Come back to Cali
Anonymous -- Tuesday July 03 2007, @04:54PM (#266179)
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get well soon (Score:1)
At this point if MSG doesnt get rescheduled, I don't really care. Although I would really LOVE to see him, I will go to a museum or something to celebrate my graduation, that probably sounds really nerdy. My poor little mozzy, get well soon. Much love.
brit50 -- Tuesday July 03 2007, @04:59PM (#266180)
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  • Re:get well soon by Buzzetta (Score:1) Wednesday July 04 2007, @11:30AM
    • museums by Math Tinder (Score:1) Wednesday July 04 2007, @01:19PM
      • Re:museums by goinghome (Score:1) Monday July 09 2007, @01:58PM
      This is ****ing pathetic (Score:1)
      I had tickets to the Garden show and the PNC...now they're BOTH postponed??! Where's the word on the NYC show? It was supposed to be rescheduled yesterday! Where's the new date?

      If he keeps this up, I hope he gets laryngeal carcinoma with distant metastases.
      PaulyD754 -- Tuesday July 03 2007, @05:07PM (#266182)
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      Ticket refund? (Score:0)
      Hello all! I had tickets to this newly postponed show. However, I am moving to Washington come the end of July. Since it was postponed, can I get a refund for the tickets since I will not be able to use them if and when it gets rescheduled?
      Anonymous -- Tuesday July 03 2007, @05:18PM (#266185)
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      Dick Sucking = Viral Infection (Score:0)
      So what's your best guess here for who's dick Morrissey was sucking to come down with his viral infection?
      Anonymous -- Tuesday July 03 2007, @05:30PM (#266192)
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      Poor, poor Morrissey (Score:0)
      I love all of these responses that suggest that what Morrissey is doing is equivalent to someone calling in sick to their day job.

      First off, I don't know of anyone who would be granted this many sick days without a verification of their illness, or potentially being let go altogether. So, enough with the equivocations.

      However, that's not the point. The point is, you are now witnessing why past, inexplicable cancellations that date back to the days of The Smiths have come back to haunt him. In the event that he does experience a valid illness, many will merely see it as typical for a Morrissey tour. The boy who cried wolf.

      Morrissey has never been a person of great resolve. The vast majority of his life could be described as a lazy existence. Many bands perform more dates than Morrissey ever has with hangovers, and numerous other ailments, and they find a way to carry on. Why? Well, they don't want to let anyone down. It's not as if Morrissey is giving it his all, even when he's in good form. If he can't tour this long without experiencing throat problems, then it's either time for him to hang it up, or to pick his dates wisely. Constantly leaving your fans hanging does not produce good will.

      But of course we know that Moz has designer clothes to buy and rent to pay. Inflation waits for no man.
      Anonymous -- Tuesday July 03 2007, @06:02PM (#266208)
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      Give Jersey some respect! (Score:0)
      It would royaly piss me off it none of the NJ dates are rescheduled because MA already saw him.
      Give the people from NJ a chance.
      My throat is swollen today so I totally understand. I don't even want to talk, let alone sing, but I think if he didn't do that VA show, the NJ fans might have a chance.
      Thanks alot VA!! j/k =)
      Anonymous -- Tuesday July 03 2007, @06:18PM (#266211)
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      You people are the worst fans ever. (Score:1)
      I'm almost ashamed of you people. Give the man a break, If he did all those shows he would surely hurt himself even more. You people are so cruel. Next time YOU get a viral infection, go to work anyway. See how it is.
      brit50 -- Tuesday July 03 2007, @06:22PM (#266212)
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      To the goon above (Score:0)
      Give the man a break? Are you fucking serious? How many fans in the past were screwed out of money and travel arrangements due to Morrissey's capricious cancellations that were never rescheduled? You're acting as if this is something new for Morrissey.

      Give ME, and everyone else a break sweetheart.

      Morrissey is in debt to his fans. It's not the other way around. God forbid any of you ever actually engage in a human relationship. You would be absolutely lost.
      Anonymous -- Tuesday July 03 2007, @06:39PM (#266218)
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      not pnc too! (Score:1)
      i was ok when he postponed MSG, but PNC just did me in.
      it's my 21st birthday the next day, and pnc is five minutes from my house.would have been perfect. it's not going to be easy to be chipper now. selfish, i know.
      disappointments aside, i really hope he just takes care of himself, and does whatever he needs to do to get better.
      its unfortunate my first post on here is in such a situation, but it's nice to see everyone (mostly) reacting so respectfully and supportively.
      as for those saying he is faking it and such. if he really has a viral infection or laryngitis, that can be awful. i had a bad case of it last year, and there's so much more to it than losing your voice.
      since we don't actually know what's going on, let's try to just be angry with the situation, not the man himself.
      takemebacktoblighty -- Tuesday July 03 2007, @07:38PM (#266229)
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      To Sum It All Up (Score:1)
      Alright, alright. Let's put an end to this animosity once and for all.

      Yes, Morrissey is now heavily indebted to his fans. He should reschedule ALL of the shows, in particular, the tri-state area shows. According to his Myspace profile, he's playing until July 21st. That means we have the WHOLE month of August open for rescheduled shows, provided that the venues can honor them.

      Although for some reason, I feel very pessimistic about the whole rescheduling thing. If what you all say is true about Moz/The Smiths not rescheduling shows in the past, then he may not do anything about it. And if that's the case, I will seriously throw out EVERYTHING I have of him (CDs, posters, etc.).

      You guys have no idea what a huge FU this would be not only to me, but for his fans here as well.

      And yeah, you don't wanna piss off NY :)
      PaulyD754 -- Tuesday July 03 2007, @07:57PM (#266231)
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      we are such an incestuous bunch (Score:1)
      it's so interesting reading the "i have plane tickets and he better not cancel!" complaints because it raises another question:

      when morrissey plays a show somewhere, how much of the audience is actually comprised of local people? when morrissey tours, his audience seems to tour with him.

      it almost begs the question as to why he tours so extensively if he looks in the audience and sees Julia and a bunch of other people he played some shows to in the UK last year.

      as a person who formerly traveled far and wide for Morrissey shows, my advice is that if you must travel to go see him, at least go to a place where you can get a good tourist-y experience like NYC or Boston. don't make the thing strictly about Morrissey. as a matter of fact, it seems that the more forgiving responses have been from people who have done exactly that.

      also, don't give more than you are willing to lose. there is no higher being looking out for you and your airfare and hotel expenses. "i'm a good person and i should be rewarded with a morrissey show" flies with no deity. similarly, asking "why am i being punished after working so hard to get to this show?" does not create any sense of pity with the forces of the universe. if morrissey gets sick, it's through the ancient practice of germs hopping from one person to another and using that person as a host to make more germs. germs have one mission and they generally don't respond to your prayers that they bypass this particular host because you had already arranged time off from work.
      suzanne -- Tuesday July 03 2007, @09:42PM (#266248)
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      Not all of us -solo-ers here are SoLow (Score:1)
      I've lost over $1,000 in penalties to change my flight itineraries for changes/rescheduled Moz shows in the past, but I have never wished horrible things upon Morrissey. I got over it in a day even though I have to work hard for a living. I just accepted that things happened -- and these rescheduled shows weren't even due to Morrissey being ill.

      I wish Morrissey a speedy recovery!

      To get the sickening posts out of view, true fans with accounts should post early and often. Do NOT respond to trolls, who are often anonymous cowards! Just push their horrid, anonymous posts down by posting good things. Eventually, the troll posts will be modded down out of sight (unless your filter is set to see everything).
      Mel Torment * -- Wednesday July 04 2007, @12:08AM (#266260)
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      God if the guy says he's sick -then he's sick (Score:0)
      just deal with it. there's no use in crying about it.
      Anonymous -- Wednesday July 04 2007, @12:35AM (#266266)
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        Amazed over rudeness (Score:1)
        Get well Moz! - and please forgive some fans for being rude and impatient.
        Markus, still docked -- Wednesday July 04 2007, @02:01AM (#266271)
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          Get well by July 20 - Atlanta. (Score:1)
          He has not played here in yeeears!! Plus, the tickets were over $100. ( and stop making fun of Daddy's voice):)
          warm summer days -- Wednesday July 04 2007, @05:12AM (#266279)
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            i dont owe you anything (Score:0)
            the guy is a singer. you all act like he owes you something. life is not fair. if he is sick he is sick. if he doesnt want to sing he doesnt want to. sometimes you just dont get what you want. you cant possibly expect everything to work out the way you want. you must like his music. why be so vicious about cancellations. i dont care how much money you make. its not the end of the world i dont care if you traveled. have fun where you are. see something or someone else. if moz is so important in your life get a life or give him a break.
            you must like him or you wouldnt be here. no wonder he likes california
            Anonymous -- Wednesday July 04 2007, @07:05AM (#266291)
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            This is wrong.... (Score:0)
            If Morrissey is sick he is sick, end of story. This shouldn't even be an issue. Unfortunately, there is a risk that you can get shafted financially in the case of a postponement/cancellation. In some cases this is unavoidable, but in others not entirely.

            When the venue and/or promoter stall for a day to inform ticket buyers that a show is cancelled is completely wrong. I have a ticket for Philadelphia and by total chance checked the Mann Center website two days before the show and learned that the show was postponed. I have to drive 6 1/2 hours each way to get to the show and so booked a hotel. Fortunately, I still had time to cancel my hotel and not get screwed for the reservation. However, I was not informed by the venue until the night before the show that it had been postponed, in which case I would have been charged for my hotel whether or not I showed up.

            What is completely wrong with this is that ticket buyers weren't informed until a day after the show was postponed according to the venue website. This day would have made a difference in my case and I think it is fair to say that people who didn't find out about it on their own earlier lost money on transportation, hotels.... In fact, despite the show being postponed Ticket Philadelphia and Ticketmaster continued to sell tickets to the show for basically a day after it was postponed. I contacted both of them to ask why they were still selling tickets and they said that they had to been informed of the change by the venue and/or promoter, it is afterall their show. Basically their hands were tied until they were told officially of the postponement.

            How many people lost money due to the fact that the venue/promoter waited to inform ticket holders when they could have piped up a day before thereby giving extra time to cancel reservations...? How many service charges were racked up during that day that ticket buyers are not going to get refunded if the show is cancelled. This is really bad business on part of the venue and the promoter (Live Nation I believe in this case). I don't think they really care what it costs the fans. In some case (eg. Ram's Head) there just wasn't enough time to warn fans of the postponement, but in the case of Philadelphia, as an example, I know the extra day would have made a difference.

            This has nothing to do with Morrissey or the ticket vendors. It has everything to do with the management and/or the venues in how they handle this.
            Anonymous -- Wednesday July 04 2007, @09:41AM (#266312)
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            When is it going to be official (Score:0)
            When is the cancellation going to be made official for PNC? I called ticketmaster and they said PNC is still on. Who's gonna let PNC know?
            Anonymous -- Wednesday July 04 2007, @09:46AM (#266314)
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            Get well Moz! (Score:1)
            I am another fan who has traveled far and wide to Morrissey- and have almost lost count of how many shows I have been to (okay I just checked the Tour history and it is now officialy 21 times I have seen him live) and he has cancelled on me twice:

            Vega$ '99: Oct. 7 Las Vegas, NV - House Of Blues (Alain Whyte threw out his back)

            L.A. '04: Sep. 18 Devore, CA - KROQ Inland Invasion 4 (Morrissey was ill)

            BOTH shows he made up at later dates. For Vega$ he actually played TWO shows to make up for it.

            Yes I know he does not always make up his cancelled shows and I do feel for those that travelled- but hey a few weeks ago I booked Florida airfare to see the 4 shows in the Sunshine State:

            July 12 Thursday Clearwater, FL - Ruth Eckard Hall
            July 14 Saturday Boca Raton, FL - Mizner Park Amphitheater
            July 15 Sunday Orlando, FL - Hard Rock Live
            July 17 Tuesday Jacksonville, FL - Morocco Shrine Auditorium

            If he is still sick and cancells those shows well then hey I knew going in the risk and I will still have a kick-@$$ time on vacation with a very cool fellow Moz-fan from Philly- and others ;^)

            Cheers,

            Jay

            Mud * <jaytandoNO@SPAMhotmail.com> -- Wednesday July 04 2007, @01:11PM (#266335)
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            • Re:Get well Moz! by mozgrrl (Score:1) Wednesday July 04 2007, @05:44PM
              • Right on! by FDR (Score:1) Thursday July 05 2007, @12:19PM
                gosh (Score:1)
                Feel better, Morrissey. End of.

                love, math+
                Math Tinder -- Wednesday July 04 2007, @01:28PM (#266339)
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                  Mike Joyce aka Mike Gross is disgusting (Score:0)
                  First of all, thank you for canceling the coming gigs. I am drowning in a flood of cough syrup cause of the DNA that seeped in from the Gabanna. I couldn’t have gone to the shows not because of this but because of a controversy going on here at the moment.
                  Good thinking.
                  These anti biotics are making me even more ill and the cough syrup is making me incoherent and out of sorts -- but what the hell -- Reality sucks and I do what I want, when I want, if I want.

                  As sick as I am I still would have gone to see you even though I have this controversy going on but it was causing really horrible panic attacks. They are awful.
                  David Letterman is also disgusting --- as is anyone who eats adorable cute animals.
                  Letterman probably tortures little animals as well.
                  I am watching the Twilight Zone marathon right now and Betty White is on the commercial and I think she loves animals so I think I love her too. I also think Rod Serling is a genus ---- but no one can hold a candle to you. You were, are, and always will be #1 in my book and that is all that matters.

                  These people that are being bad to you remind me of selfish, insensitive, cruel and heartless cretins that only care about you ripping off your shirt in the spotlight and what set list you are performing as well as getting their money back. I, for one, care about how you feel, physically and psychologically and I care only about you feeling happy and in good spirits. But does “happy” even really exist - I think feeling happy is only temporary and most people are perpetrating a fraud when they pretend their lives are so “wonderful” but then again, maybe they really night be --- who knows - what do I know anywys. But the one thing that I do know is that you are the most intelligent, beautiful, talented and compassionate man on this unhappy planet. That much “I do” know.
                  The Twilight Zone episode that they showed on this marathon last night regarding the people who had the super natural camera that showed the winning horses -- win, place, and show-- on the board prior to the races being run was hilarious.
                  The slot machine one is so funny as well.
                  Secondly, I couldn’t have gone to the gigs myself because of the scenario that I have to put up with somehow -- as usual. I would have gotten on the planes if I’d taken 3 tablespoons of this cough syrup but thanks to you that was not a viable option anymore.
                  Once again you have made my life brighter and better. Please keep this in mind -- Don’t listen to anyone else -follow your own heart and intuition -- Always.
                  I want you to get better soon --- and I want to get better as well but I don’t think there is any hope -- for me. But for you there is.
                  I think I have ranted probably incoherently enough for the evening so I shall resume watching the Twilight Zone which is where I think I actually belong.
                  And to all of you people ripping Morrissey -- you should be ashamed of yourself. Stop being Mike Joyce clones with no feelings or compassion. I am going to take more cough syrup now and continue watching Rod Serling.
                  Morrissey, may God be with you -- I love you -- and look forward to seeing you -- whenever that might be.
                  The short time that I got to see you in Boston up close was a monumental time and thank God I got there even with this controversy going on in my life. Reach for my hand and the race is won.
                  I am signing off now to resume Rod Serling and scribble some more on a big white paper with my black magic marker in regards to Mike Joyce, aka Mike Gross, being a demon spawn.
                  btw-you should have won. That money grubbing lunatic shall get what he deserves. You ----- be a vicTOR --- not a victim. Mike Joyce go choke on your own vomit.
                  P.S. sorry if this sounds incoherent but this cough syrup is really really really strong.
                  Anonymous -- Wednesday July 04 2007, @05:00PM (#266356)
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                  Do we REALLY know it's postponed? (Score:1)
                  Ok, so how do we really know for a FACT that the PNC show is postponed? The news on True-to-you just isn't confirmatory enough. I checked on the PNC website, and there's no notice of a postponement. I tried calling the arts center, but obviously today's a holiday and they're closed.

                  Has anybody called up the Arts Centre and asked if the show was postponed or not? For some reason, this may all be a hoax for all we know.
                  PaulyD754 -- Wednesday July 04 2007, @05:08PM (#266357)
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                  Does he have to sing?? (Score:1)
                  Yes, of course, but would anyone pay good money for a ticket just to see Morrissey sit down with an audience, and just talk? Spoken word, question/answer, or better yet powerpoint slide shows?
                  charmingjeane -- Wednesday July 04 2007, @08:32PM (#266376)
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                    John From Cincinnati (Score:0)
                    Does Anyone think that the character John, from the HBO show John from Cincinnati, a little bit Suedehead Morrissey-esque? The actor is dreamy.
                    Anonymous -- Wednesday July 04 2007, @08:37PM (#266377)
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                      Definitely postponed (Score:1)
                      If you go to www.livenation.com and search for this show, then click on "Premium Tickets", there's an indication that the show isn't happening. Sorry. I want to go as badly as you do!
                      grlmopz * -- Wednesday July 04 2007, @08:51PM (#266378)
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                        What is the EXACT process for refunds? (Score:0)
                        Seriously, I lost out now on 5 shows. How can I get my $ back, like now? Has anyone else here got a refund yet and if so, what is the EXACT process? Did Ticketmaster refund the convenience charge too?

                        Anonymous -- Thursday July 05 2007, @03:58AM (#266387)
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                        We should all just shut up and go back to work (Score:0)
                        Yes, we were terribly screwed over with money, travel arrangements and other plans. Luckily, if ticketmaster is NICE enough, they'll provide refunds. Even if they screw us out of the convenience charge.

                        This is a MAJOR risk you take when you go to a gig.

                        However, Morrissey IS ill and just hope he gets well soon.

                        Bottom line too, to the ignoramuses who pent up against Morrissey and to fans that lost out on a lot of money, time, energy, work, shut-up because, you're just proving to everyone here how ignorant, childish, immature and SO-LOW CLASS you are. You "fans" that saw Morrissey should feel VERY VERY SORRY for us fans out here who lost out on everything!!!!!!!!!! SHAME ON YOU ALL!!!!!!!!!!!!! DISGUSTING!!!!!!!!!!!!!
                        Anonymous -- Thursday July 05 2007, @04:05AM (#266388)
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                          As of 10am no word yet (Score:0)
                          Nobody at Ticketmaster or Arts Center is answering. Website not updated.

                          Do we put our trust in the fansites??
                          Anonymous -- Thursday July 05 2007, @06:58AM (#266390)
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                          what's the deal with NYC? (Score:0)
                          the MSG website said that they would have a rescheduled date posted on Monday the 2nd. it's now Thursday the 5th. what the hell is going on, because i'm starting to get pissed off. now i have no idea whether or not Morrissey is even going to play in New York. he better damn well. does ANYONE, regardless of whether or not you live in New York, have any info on the MSG show? please let me know as soon as you hear something.
                          Anonymous -- Thursday July 05 2007, @09:05AM (#266402)
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                          The beginning of the end? (Score:0)
                          Unlike the Rolling Stones, Morrissey just cannot cut it on long tours anymore. My advice: get in the studio and just concentrate on making good music again. Forget the long tours, you obviously are not made for the road anymore. However, you are still capable of making great songs if that is your primary focus.
                          Anonymous -- Thursday July 05 2007, @10:20AM (#266408)
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                          Tour is cancelled (Score:0)
                          Ken just got off the phone with Boz, and apparantly the whole tour is off now. They may re-start in August, but more likely it is over for good. They will rest up for their studio time with Visconti in late September. They will be recording "All you need is me" and "the longer I live" as well as other yet unnamed songs.
                          Sucks about the tour, but at least new studio stuff is in the works.
                          Anonymous -- Thursday July 05 2007, @10:48AM (#266414)
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                          is there a chance? (Score:1)
                          Ok, does anyone think these shows are seriously going to be rescheduled? I have tickets for the Borgata show, and I have a horrible sinking feeling that it's never going to happen because it's a smaller venue. And I got my tix on ebay so theres no way to get refunded!

                          So...anybody have experience with this? Are my hopes of rescheduling utterly ridiculous?
                          katiejanks -- Thursday July 05 2007, @12:16PM (#266438)
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                          Philadelphia people (Score:0)
                          I guess we can lose ALL hope of him rescheduling our show. :-[
                          Anonymous -- Thursday July 05 2007, @12:39PM (#266446)
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                            If Moz was sickened by Letterman... (Score:0)
                            ...join the club, but who was Letterman trying to alienate more: An ovo-lacto vegetarian who sings or a vegan running for President of the United States of America?
                            Anonymous -- Thursday July 05 2007, @01:21PM (#266450)
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                            A moment of clarity... (Score:2, Interesting)
                            Just to calm the waters a bit, I would like to confirm that Saturday's concert in Boston (along with the rest of the tour) is scheduled to pick up as planned. I think it is really unfortunate that one unconfirmed rumor about the tour being canceled entirely can affect so many people. There is no truth to it, at all.

                            Without going into who I know, what I do or what I know, etc.. (which gets tedious and annoying), I can say with full accuracy that this info comes from about as good of a source as one can get. Moz is doing much better from what I hear. I just wanted to make this known, so that people who have plans for the rest of the tour don't start panicking and canceling their plans.

                            The people behind the scenes are working very hard for all of you so that no further shows are affected and that the ones that were can be re-scheduled. The past two weeks have been an unfortunate set of circumstances for all involved, and writing or buying in