Morrissey is an astonishing wordsmith, says David Baddiel
posted by davidt on Tuesday June 12 2007, @12:00PM

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Writer/Comedian David Baddiel says The Beatles are "twee" (hooray!), "Dancing Queen" is the best pop single yet made, and Moz, Bowie and Jarvis Cocker are the greatest British lyricists!

His word: David Baddiel - Times Online

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Morrissey too, when he avoids the literal, is an astonishing word-smith – it is poetry, both witty and poignant, to describe an episode of impotence in the face of heterosexual advance with the words “And Sorrow’s Native Son/ He will not smile for anyone” as he does in Pretty Girls Make Graves, although for me his most plangent line is “And when a train goes by/ It’s such a sad sound” from the obscure track Nowhere Fast.

 
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What about... (Score:0)
Hector was the first of the gang with a gun in his hand, and the first to do time, the first of the gang to die?
Anonymous -- Tuesday June 12 2007, @12:50PM (#263258)
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Hang on... (Score:1)
So Nowhere Fast is obscure, but everyone knows Pretty Girls Make Graves?... Jesus.
mspendl828 <reversethis-{moc ... j_deleeh_gnirps}> -- Tuesday June 12 2007, @12:51PM (#263259)
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I offered love and it was not required... what else can I do?
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    Who? (Score:0)
    EVERYONE knows that Frank Skinner is the funny, more talented one.
    Anonymous -- Tuesday June 12 2007, @02:48PM (#263271)
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      fuck off Baddiel (Score:0)
      Baddiel is a psuedo wanker.

      Why doesn't he piss off and realise he's nothing more than a failed comedian and his attempts at being a culture columnist for the chattering classes is nothing short of embarrasing.

      Dancing Queen my arse.

      Spot his desperate attempt to appear trendy by mentioning Alex Turner and the Streets. Sad Git!
      Anonymous -- Tuesday June 12 2007, @06:20PM (#263291)
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        what is the matter with you lot? (Score:1)
        ffs he spoke of Moz in a positive light, he is a fan & all you can do is critize!
        I met David outside the royal albert hall, we had a chat about the gig! He is a fan, repeat he is a fan! F**k knows what you lot would say about anyone who said owt bad against Moz?

        love

        Grim
        Grim O'Grady * -- Tuesday June 12 2007, @09:43PM (#263313)
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        Good of Baddiel to use the present tense (Score:0)
        Nothing on ROTT could be considered the work of an astonishing lyricist...
        Anonymous -- Wednesday June 13 2007, @01:31AM (#263331)
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        Unfair (Score:1)
        As twee as the Beatles may sound now - in 1965 lyrics to Help and You've Got To Hide Your Love Away were pretty outstanding - especially for a 24-year-old to write
        Shakingobscene -- Wednesday June 13 2007, @01:47AM (#263332)
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        "I hope it's not too bloody - I'm wearing my favourite pants."
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          I wonder... (Score:1)
          ...whatever happened to Rob Newman?
          Ramon -- Wednesday June 13 2007, @02:49AM (#263335)
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          "I'm all over you...like a vulture, like impending death"
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            Paul McCartney (Score:0)
            Morrissey is by far, the best.
            Please check out this link to Sir Paul McCarney's new single from his new album. If this is what you call a good lyricist than the world has gone mad! I heard it on the radio the other day and nearly wet myself laughing when they announced it as a fantastic song from an equally fantastic lyricist of all time! Please.....I have missed something here or what? It is nothing but twaddle.
            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xTNXrkBSp_o
            Anonymous -- Wednesday June 13 2007, @03:13AM (#263337)
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            McCartney (Score:0)
            McCartney's new album is actually very good.
            I'd recommend it to anyone.

            I'm enjoying it more than I did Ringleaders, which I hasten to add I liked.

            Some of the greatest songs ever have had forgettable lyrics, just as a lot of good lyrics have been wasted on lousy music.
            Anonymous -- Wednesday June 13 2007, @06:08AM (#263353)
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              No more Bad Eel (Score:0)
              I've heard enough from this pontificating fool, Baddiel.

              Anyone who had to edure Skinner and Baddiel Unplanned will recoil in horror at the thought of him being let loose in public places.

              Rob Newman? He went doolally, didn't he?
              Anonymous -- Wednesday June 13 2007, @06:14AM (#263355)
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                Did anyone else interpret that lyric to impotence? (Score:0)
                Not having a wang myself, it never occurred to me that the "Sorrow's native son will not smile for anyone" line in "Pretty Girls" referred to impotence. Anyone else? Maybe I'm just naive.
                Anonymous -- Wednesday June 13 2007, @08:01AM (#263367)
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                free at last (Score:0)
                "free to whoever I choose, cuz I'll sing the blues if I choose"

                In the gut-wrenchingly beautiful words of Mr Gallagher, a poet to rival Morrissey of the Smiths, Keats, Wilde, Simon Weber of Blue or Alan Bennett. Yes, I am FREE. Why don't YOU free yourself?

                BTW I look a bit like Morrissey and I'm handsome, rich and interesting (as all who have met me will confirm)

                Paul
                Anonymous -- Wednesday June 13 2007, @08:14AM (#263368)
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                Why has Morrissey changed... (Score:0)
                his style from romantic/poetic to literal? His themes used to be so easy to relate to whether you were male,female or gay or straight. Now, unless you are a millonaire pop star, being sued by former bandmates and being harrassed by customs officers, you may not 'get' Morrissey's most recent work.
                Anonymous -- Wednesday June 13 2007, @11:41AM (#263397)
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                Anvil (Score:0)
                Morrissey is an astonishing blacksmith, says David Baddiel.

                Yes it's true. Moz is never happier than when he's banging away on his anvil, shaping a horse-shoe.
                Anonymous -- Wednesday June 13 2007, @08:13PM (#263464)
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                  keys (Score:0)
                  Morrissey is an astonishing locksmith, says David Baddiel.

                  Baddiel goes on to explain how he once got locked out of his flat when Frank Skinner was at the football.

                  Apparently Morrissey happened to be passing and, hearing Baddiel's cries of woe, stepped forward with his big bunch of keys and within minutes they were both in the flat enjoying a nice cup of Earl Grey.
                  Anonymous -- Wednesday June 13 2007, @08:18PM (#263465)
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