if true, then the boxset is just effectively the albums bolstered with bonus tracks? Some good stuff (rare-ish radio sessions), but far from the treasure trove it could have been (e.g mix of superelative live takes, rare studio mixes, missing radio sessions) and pales in comparison to the Fall box. Shame really.

Reissue, repackage, repackage...

Why many more of the same?
Rerelease and rerelease and rerelease and rerelease.
Enough already

Will it be released only in the UK/Europe, or will it also be released in the U.S.? If it does come out in the U.S. early next year, Morrissey may not be thrilled to tour here at the same time and thereby boost its sales.

So a friend of a friend saw this posted on a Kula Shaker message board did he?

And I bet you all believe it and start slagging Morrissey off for it not being good enough. Then in six months time you'll all be slagging him off for not releasing that boxset that he "promised".

And great, it was a first time poster that offered this scintillating bit of information. Even more credible.

cock wash and pishflaps i cry
this is forgery and story-making of the lowest order..
if Marr were involved "how soon is now" would not remain criminally bolted to "meat is murder"..

There is only one Kula Shaker forum on the net, this one [groupee.net], and that tracklisting ain't on it.

When the idea of this Smiths box set first came out there was talk of a live DVD or something. Any word on that? I would love to find a top quality live Smiths show on DVD. I wouldn't care if it's a bootleg.....
thetexasbloke

I'm truly disappointed. The only thing the set has going for it is that it will be digitally remastered.

I'm so easily let down because it could have been oh so good. Well, at least the sound will be.

Please explain. What forum??

This is not news. I would love to buy a a nice Smiths Box-set - similiar to The Clash Singles set.

I bet this is the Warners CO who are trying to milk the Smiths catalogue dry. All the fans will know that there arent any/much hidden gems to be released. Unless Joyce has sold his box of demos for a few quid.

I like the idea how Morrisseys's solo singles were released in 2 boxes. And the recent release of The Clash singles was great. I think the record company should release the original Rough Trade singles in their original sleeves.

Didn't think it was possible, but this will definitely be worse than New Order's "Retro." For all of our bitching about that release, at least it had a few unreleased tracks on it.

Can we PLEASE at least wait until we know if this is the boxed set tracklisting (if there is even a boxed set) before complaining about what it does/doesn't contain. As has already been pointed out above, there are inconstencies (CD length etc) in the listing that was posted.

Even if it is the correct listing, if it's a Warner's release then it is doubtful that Moz has had anything to do with it.

To me it's no surprise if this tracklist becomes reality. Its supposed to be a boxset, not a rarities collection.

Don't get me wrong - we all know alternate takes, the Troy Tate version of The Smiths and i'd prefer those to be on the CDs compared to boxed set of songs i already have several times.

But Warner, despite being not too sensitive asking for Morrissey's input in the past, have done a fair job since 1992: They released all the original albums and the two Best... compilations, the 3 singles ranked higher in the charts than any other Smiths 7" before! (1992, the year Madness and ABBA did also release their best selling albums ever: compilations Divine Madness and ABBA Gold. Warner did see the signs of time and presented the legacy of The Smiths very well).

The Singles (1995) was a good collection (especially for starters) but ok, The Very Best Of The Smiths (2001) was a marketing brainchild and not, let say, a work of art.

But despite this one, there are no cheap compilations designed for the bargain-bin released by Warner, sold at a reduced price from the day of it's release - there are many companies here in Europe (i bet its the same in the US) like Disky who buy a licence and compile cheap looking, cheap sounding, cheap selling compilations. Warner did not grant such a licence up to now.

The Smiths Box Set may be just a collection of every previously released song. Disc 5 at last seems to be worth the buy, remember that in pre-internet days most of you would have given a monthly salary to buy a muddy bootleg of those sessions..

I hope that The Smiths Rarities will become an own disc or set of discs in the future

Anybody in Manchester knows that this is utter rubbish. Andy Rourke & Mike Joyce both have radio programmes aired in the region. For about the last 10 months they have occasionally played some live material of The Smiths. Joyce has commented that he has found them whilst gathering archive for the forthcoming box set.

fuck all "this blah-blah-bla Reissue, repackage, repackage..."

A Smiths Box Set is a really good idea.

Re-evaluate the songs.

thetexasbloke

Morrissey has bugger all to do with this, whether this is the real tracklisting or not. He's already said that for every bit of Smiths merchandise bought in the UK, the profits go to Mike Joyce (I'm not sure whether Marr or Rourke get a look in). I know some of you may think he's stirring, but it's true; the profits of Smiths merchandise probably only cover the interest on the sum that Morrissey was originally ordered to pay Joyce; he must owe him about a gazillion quid by now and if he ever comes back to live in the UK, the bailiffs will be straight round to collect it. It's a very sorry state of affairs when the fans want to get their hands on rarities and the like, but the only people profitting will be the record company and the drummer. Though I suspect not a lot will be bothered about whose are coffers swelling. 'Paint A Vulgar Picture' was written with remarkable foresight.

Box Set Shmox Set. Yeah it would be cool but let's face it, it's never gonna happen someday.

If you guys want unreleased stuff ,I have almost every Smiths rarity known to man, which I've amassed through years of trading, downloading, purchasing, whatever..and i'm not just talking about live stuff...although good ghrist ,i've got a ton of that too. No, I mean i have close to thirty b-sides, demos, unreleased bbc sessions, tv appearances, instrumentals, soundchecks...you name it...not to mention ALL the troy tate stuff, including two songs not on most versions of that bootleg (the hand that rocks the cradle and accept yourself)...everything is excellent quality and any sessions or tv appearances have been tweaked by me so as to eliminate annoying announcer blather, crowd noise, etc... i sell cdrs for either trade or, if you have nothing to trade, four dollars a disc. email me at mozfiend76@yahoo.com for a full list of what i have.

quit crying, this is great if it is true. I love to have the whole catalog remastered with some extras.

Also quoting "Paint A Vulgar Picture" every time a CD/album is reissued it FAR from clever.

I think this is only a rumour.

There are legal battles for the rights of the songs so... i don't see any boxset in the near future..

As a long time Smiths fan I think this is not the best effort for Smiths fan-base hopes. Even not including the studio album tracks and some gems* every fan would like to hear someday..., the track-list detailed next are today reachable from singles and bootlegs and would be a nice gift for we all if mastered and re-mastered.

*: Frankly Mr. Shankly (Alternate version)
        Money Changes Everything (w/ Brian Ferry on vocals)
        (Complete) I Want A Boy For My Birthday
        (Complete) Cowbell-Click Track
        etc, etc...

THE SMITHS F#1 OUTTAKES /1

01/ Hand In Glove 3:15
02/ This Charming Man (12” Single) 2:42
03/ Jeane (demo) 3:05
04/ Accept Yourself 3:57
05/ Wonderful Woman 3:10
06/ Back To The Old House 3:04
07/ These Things Take Time 2:23
08/ Heaven Knows I'm Miserable Now 3:34
09/ Girl Afraid 2:48
10/ William, It Was Really Nothing 2:10
11/ Please Please Please Let Me Get What I Want 1:52
12/ How Soon Is Now? 6:44
13/ Shakespeare's Sister 2:08
14/ Oscillate Wildly (Instrumental) 3:26
15/ Stretch Out And Wait 2:38
16/ Golden Lights* 2:40 //Mixes:
17/ This Charming Man (Manchester) 2:42
18/ This Charming Man (London) 2:47
19/ This Charming Man (New York) 5:35
20/ This Charming Man (New York instrumental) 4:19
21/ This Charming Man (Single remix) 2:46

THE SMITHS F#2 OUTTAKES /2

01/ How Soon Is Now? (12” Single -Italy) 7:03
02/ The Boy With The Thorn In His Side (Single version) 3:16
03/ Rubber Ring (12”Single) 3:56
        / Asleep (12” Single) 4:10
05/ Money Changes Everything (Instrumental) 4:39
06/ Unloveable 3:56
07/ Panic 2:21
08/ The Draize Train (Instrumental) 5:09
09/ Ask 3:15
10/ Shoplifters Of The World Unite 2:58
11/ London 2:07
12/ Half A Person 3:36
13/ You Just Haven't Earned It Yet, Baby 3:32
14/ Sheila Take A Bow 2:41
15/ Work Is A Four Letter Word* 2:47
16/ I Keep Mine Hidden 2:00
17/ What's The World? (Live)** 2:13 //The Smiths & Sandie Shaw on vocals:
18/ Hand In Glove (w/ Sandie Shaw) 2:58
19/ Jeane (w/ Sandie Shaw) 2:52
20/ I Don't Owe You Anything (w/ Sandie Shaw) 4:06

THE SMITHS F#3 DEMOS

“The Hand That Rocks The Cradle” /Versions for the debut album /Produced by Troy Tate:
01/ Reel Around The Fountain (Demo) 6:15
02/ You've Got Everything Now (Demo) 4:25
03/ Miserable Lie (Demo) 4:49
04/ These Things Take Time (Demo) 2:45
05/ Wonderful Woman (Demo) 3:26
06/ Handsome Devil (Demo) 2:56
07/ Hand In Glove (Demo) 3:27
08/ What Difference Does It Make? (Demo) 4:10
09/ I Don't Owe You Anything (Demo) 4:34
10/ Suffer Little Children (Demo) 5:52
11/ Pretty Girls Make Graves (Troy Tate Version) 3:42
12/ Jeane (Troy Tate version) 3:05 //Troy Tate demos /Outtakes:
13/ Accept Yourself (Demo) 4:05
14/ The Hand That Rocks The Cradle (Demo) 5:18 //Troy Tate demos /Versions:
15/ Reel Around The Fountain (Demo -2nd versions) 5:59
16/ Miserable Lie (Demo -2nd version) 4:37
17/ Wonderful Woman (Demo -2nd version) 3:20
18/ What Difference Does It Make? (Demo -2nd version) 3:22

THE SMITHS F#4 RADIO SESSIONS /1 //John Peel Show -BBC Radio One /UK -31.05.1983:
01/ Handsome Devil (BBC session) 2:45
02/ Reel Around The Fountain (BBC session) 5:51
03/ Miserable Lie (BB

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I sent the list below. I think this works better as a guide to a smiths tracks-off the album I compiled in 10 albums and not as a collection suggested by the band and/or the company. in fact, i got these all, so my hope is clearly new material.

see ya

I sent the list below. I think this works better as a guide to a smiths tracks-off the albums and not as a collection suggested by the band and/or the company. in fact, i got these all, so my hope is clearly new material.
waiting for it...

see ya!