NME gig ad -"Jed Skullcap"?
posted by davidt on Thursday October 12 2006, @02:00PM

An anonymous person writes:
There is a discussion in the forums about something unsettling

The NME ad opens a can of worms.

'jed Skullcap' ???! - posted by joe frady

Just bought this weeks NME. On page 47 there is a full page ad for the Christmas tour. The ad consists of the same image and details as the one featured in the news story on the main page, as sent in by Joe Dolan. Except that in the very bottom right hand corner of the advertisement, beneath the pink banner that says 'Tickets on sale 9am on Friday 13 October', and printed over the cream coloured shirt that Morrissey is holding behind his back, are two words ' JED SKULLCAP '.
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Wtf ?

Uncleskinny included a detail scan of the ad in the thread:


 
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Slow day David? (Score:0)
This is news, is it?

It's probably the photographer or something
Anonymous -- Thursday October 12 2006, @02:03PM (#236815)
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I always said Jed was a dick... (Score:0)
And this shows that Morrissey finally realized the same.
Sanctuary/Merck should fire Jed if they have not already.
Anonymous -- Thursday October 12 2006, @02:03PM (#236816)
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What a hate filled site this can be sometimes (Score:0)
And why is it encouraged by the webmaster?
Anonymous -- Thursday October 12 2006, @02:25PM (#236819)
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Jed Skullcap? (Score:0)
I don't get it.
Anonymous -- Thursday October 12 2006, @02:38PM (#236821)
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Er?? (Score:0)
I'm probably being horribly thick or poor in my knowledge of morrissey but could somebody explain what the big deal is, firstly why is this a story and esecondly why is everyone getting mad about it?
Thanks
Anonymous -- Thursday October 12 2006, @02:40PM (#236822)
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  • Re:Er?? by Anonymous (Score:0) Thursday October 12 2006, @02:46PM
    it's not on my copy (Score:1)
    looks like a photoshop prank.
    fut -- Thursday October 12 2006, @02:57PM (#236825)
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    what the hell is this all about? (Score:0)
    couldn't possibly be moz...guess time will tell. does that show in other nme ads?
    Anonymous -- Thursday October 12 2006, @03:46PM (#236837)
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      Jed Skullcap is the photographer Weitzman (Score:1)
      The caption probably refers to Jed Weitzman, a photographer who works in the recording industry.(?)

      If you will recall, he was photographed holding an umbrella whilst Morrissey rested upon a motor-bike.

      There has been a great deal of vitriol posted about Jed. Factually, he used to hang out with Jane's Addiction and maybe Porno for Pyros (?)

      This is definitely not news. He is a photographer and a relative to Fonzy (Winkleman?)

      Always-KEN
      sycophantic_slag -- Thursday October 12 2006, @05:05PM (#236848)
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      "And I just can't explain/ So I won't even try to."
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      Why do "Fans" try and stir up trouble? (Score:1, Insightful)
      It annoys me beyond belief that when Morrissey is finally being allowed to move on by the Media from these ridiculous statements that he is a racist that people here, so called fans, would try and bring it up again.

      Congratulations to you all, an old wound now well and truly opened.
      Anonymous -- Thursday October 12 2006, @11:18PM (#236867)
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      skinny has his own agenda (Score:0)
      The only "sinister" aspect of this whole non-story is the fact that uncleskinny has blown this up to cause trouble for Moz because Moz's legal team censured skinny for posting that "click track" thing that Mike Joyce was trying to peddle on ebay.
      Uncleskinny is the biggest loser on this site and should be ignored like the dull fool he is.
      Anonymous -- Friday October 13 2006, @02:26AM (#236884)
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      • Re:skinny has his own agenda by Auric Goldfinger (Score:1) Monday October 16 2006, @12:58AM
        • Re:skinny has his own agenda by Anonymous (Score:0) Monday October 16 2006, @02:04AM
            Re:skinny has his own agenda (Score:2, Insightful)
            The real question, in my view, is whether it's appropriate to publicly refer to Jed Weitzman as "Jed skullcap".

            The metonymical passage from "Weitzman" > Jew > skullcap is not innocent since the passage "Weitzman" > "Jew" is a private matter and is nobody else's business.

            Furthermore, the link between "Jew" and "skullcap" is a "reduction to artefact" - again one that could possibly upset some people.

            It's not the scan in itself that is "sinister", but the caption itself. Bad taste, anyway.
            MILVA -- Monday October 16 2006, @02:56AM (#237122)
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        Unbelievable (Score:1)
        Morrissey solo reaches an all time low.
        sarahT -- Friday October 13 2006, @02:27AM (#236885)
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          How Morrissey can possibly have anything against.. (Score:0)
          this site is a mystery to me. I mean, after all, all it does is report the facts doesn't it?

          The webmaster never tries to stir up trouble against Moz because he no longer gets privileged access, Of course he doesn't! You're a fool if you think he does!
          Anonymous -- Friday October 13 2006, @02:38AM (#236888)
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            jed - wannabe image taker. (Score:1)
            ----its just a nod to Jed the snapper.
            obviously hes still Mozz's assistant manager and his wannabe Linder Stirling.
            not a bad picture though Jed.

            ----skullcap ; maybe he wears a bandana all the time?

            ----trust the dickheads to start the 'is it racist' slur...geeks.

            CONVERSATION. AUG 2006.

            JED. - ''but Mozz wot else can i do. ive ordered the prada shirts and the evian and the cabbage and the just for men , brown shade 244.''

            MOZZ. - ''oh for christ sake, let Jed take these few pictures hes doing my head in.''

            THE real photographer. - 'jeez'.

            JED. - ''ah thanks mozz.'' (in ass kissing gesture mode)

            MOZZ. - ''hurry up and take it , i want a bloody Peroni fool''........''Boz wheres my chuffing Peroni''...........

            JED. - ''Um Mozz, I drank em all''..........................

            Mozz runs after Jed whos half pissed, snapping his camera madly as he goes..................

            inlovewiththepast -- Friday October 13 2006, @03:00AM (#236893)
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            truth rest your head there is more than a life at stake here..she may well sell sanctuary but she'll also sell your soul
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            Settle Down... (Score:1)
            Uncle Skinny simply scanned what was on the page after I requested to see it (as I couldn't quite picture what was being described). The text hadn't appeared on any previous reproductions of that same image.

            The news item could've done without the "disturbing" reference and simply presented the info, but really, all that knee-jerking and you'll hurt yourself.

            king leer -- Friday October 13 2006, @03:45AM (#236903)
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            Sanctuary are aware of the "trouble making" (Score:0)
            Just in case you are interested Sanctuary are now aware that this is a main news story on the site and are looking in to it. I doubt very much if they will be impressed with such a potentially inflammatory story being posted and given creidibility.

            Another solicitors letter on the way?
            Anonymous -- Friday October 13 2006, @04:17AM (#236909)
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            Quite ridiculous (Score:1, Flamebait)
            Jed Skullcap is as offensive as Tony Whiteskin or
            Harold Afrohair.
            I work with both these fellows and they can't see what the fuss is about.

            Yours,
            Cracker McSlaveowitz.
            ManAlive -- Friday October 13 2006, @04:47AM (#236914)
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            Finally, after 3 seasons of watching MLB.tv in my bedroom in Salford the Boston Red Sox are champions of the world.
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              Skullcap is a kippah !! (Score:0)
              Skullcap is what the jewishes wear on the head, the kippah.
              Perhaps that it's a private joke with Jed Weitzman who is perhaps jewish ??? No really funny but why not??
              Anonymous -- Friday October 13 2006, @06:19AM (#236931)
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                Please remove this "news" item (Score:1)
                immediately. It's uninformative and therefore useless.
                veradicere * -- Friday October 13 2006, @07:19AM (#236942)
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                ebay (Score:1)
                wankers already starting to try and rip people off on ebay.... DONT BUY TICKETS OFF EBAY!
                clearlyovercast -- Friday October 13 2006, @07:38AM (#236944)
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                • Re:ebay by Anonymous (Score:0) Friday October 13 2006, @08:33AM
                  • Agreed by Satan accepted mine (Score:1) Friday October 13 2006, @10:49AM
                  Hold the Schmaltz! (Score:1)
                  This item is nothing more than Moz having a giggle by creating a little moniker for Jed Weitzman to use as a photo credit. Morrissey has done this in the past with himself (Ann Coats, Alf Button) and here, he apparently continues the grand tradition.

                  Actually, if this photo was in fact taken by Jed Weitzman, wouldn't Jed have had to give Morrissey permission to use it in a promotion piece like this? Perhaps even proof the ad before submission? If so, then Jed is probably in on the joke.

                  If the NME felt there was any chance that this advert would cause offence to jews in general, the ad would have been pulled off the press faster than a rolling bagel.
                  mozmic_dancer -- Friday October 13 2006, @10:34AM (#236965)
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                    Quick, somebody call Dan Brown (Score:2, Insightful)
                    Oooh oooh oooh, pehaps it means something really bad, if we could only decode it ...

                    Firstly this has done the NME a huge favour amongst the ranks of Morrissey fans; who went out and bought their copy (or at least stood in the newsagents reading one) to check it wasn't a photoshop? And all after I'd successfully given up paying £2 per week for drivel about emo and 'happening' new indie bands (that are depressingly younger than me and all have the same hair).

                    Secondly we're all a bit pathetic (myself included) for getting so worked up about something hidden (though not very well) at the bottom of a picture. Who knows what it means; who knows anything when it comes to Morrissey? Apart from the fact that he's an intelligent, funny, compassionate, rational individual with just as much capacity to be an amazing human being, or a complete bastard, as the rest of us. But I'll always see him as the former: a) because the image remains in my head of the bookish, shy boy who saved my life with words and b) because I don't know him and can therefore love him unconditionally.

                    The phrase 'mountains out of molehills' springs to mind and I hope that Sanctuary (and indeed the man himself) say nothing about this, because there's no need. And those who brought up the racism issue should just think about how their tendency to leap on everything creates issues where none exist. It reminds me of the Raymond Luxury Yacht sketch from Monty Python, where Graham Chapman's character is wearing a large polystyrene nose just to get on TV.

                    "Interviewer: You're a very silly man and I'm not going to interview you.

                    Raymond: Ah, anti-semitism!"

                    And now for something completely different ...

                     
                    Mozzersgirl -- Friday October 13 2006, @12:11PM (#236986)
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                    Explosive kegs (Score:1)
                    I'm trying to figure out the picture inserted er, between his legs, and the writing. AK1OUR, is what I read? Something tour perhaps? Is that a cloudy sky or a bomb blast? Is someone familiar with that logo or is it another foreign body?

                    We know from the TTY picture that the extras haven't been in it since it was presented there quite some time back. So it's specific to the promotional flyer for this leg of the tour, and maybe even more specific to the NME version. In the forum discussion someone posted a comprehensive list of what skull-cap can mean. It can be any tight-fitting skull-hugging hat, or even the top of the skull itself, anatomically. It can mean a type of tree, or a herb that is used to calm the nerves. Some type of limestone is referred to as skull-cap, and armoury. Figuratively it can mean the person in charge over the whole scenario. So let's slow down, it's probably just an in-joke. Even if Jed has been enjoying himself aplenty!

                    The other picture in the picture though; wha da?!
                    goinghome -- Friday October 13 2006, @12:53PM (#236993)
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                    Such Great News! (Score:0)
                    ZZZzzzzzZzzz
                    Anonymous -- Friday October 13 2006, @01:34PM (#237002)
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                      What the hell is going on here (Score:0)
                      What is this thread for
                      Granvik -- Saturday October 14 2006, @01:55AM (#237026)
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                        Waste Of Time! (Score:0)
                        You should not waste real fans time with meaningless trash! That was some stretch to even submit something like that. Hope you have a great day...
                        Anonymous -- Saturday October 14 2006, @07:49AM (#237045)
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                          And...? (Score:1)
                          I'm just wondering how this really reflects anything about Morrissey what-so-ever? Is he responsible for assembling his own advertisements? Do you think he sits in his study on the computer at night on photoshop working on how to place "Jed Skullcap" just so?

                          I guess maybe he could've called up the NME himself and said "Hey guys, could you please credit this photo to Jed Skullcap"?!?!" but I really don't get how anyone would think he is in charge of any of this?!

                          I know he's not a huge fan of Sanctuary at the moment, but SURELY they have enough employees that Morrissey isn't in charge of his own advertisements!!!!!
                          ProtestSinger -- Saturday October 14 2006, @09:39AM (#237055)
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                          .*.* I can smile about it now but at the time it was terrible *.*.
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                            uncleskinny urepentant? (Score:0)
                            "Since you asked...unsure of whether the insertion of that particular word was malicious and possibly anti-semitic. Maybe I don't deserve an explanation, but I thought I knew the person whose music I've been buying, admiring and enjoying since 1984. You think this is rumour mongering and hysteria? Your opinion. It's your choice to ignore what I've posted, just as it's my choice to ignore anyone else's. And it's my choice, and no-one else's to form and have an opinion on this issue. As I said earlier, maybe I don't deserve an explanation, but if anyone can give one, then fine. And by the way, I won't have you or anyone else tell me to 'drop it and move on' - you have your opinion, I have mine.

                            Peter"
                            __________________

                            what an awful man.
                            Anonymous -- Saturday October 14 2006, @12:35PM (#237068)
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                            Germany dates. (Score:0)
                            Selling standingtickets to Düsseldorf and Hamburg.
                            I am selling my tickets for 35 Euro each. (46 Euro plus shipping was what I paid) I was very impulsive when I bought these tickets and now want to get rid of them because of the UK dates.
                            If anyone is interested feel free to e-mail me at jonnamcleannilsson@hotmail.com

                            Anonymous -- Sunday October 15 2006, @04:29AM (#237087)
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                              Jewish Chronicler (Score:0)
                              As a non-practising jew/yid/kike/skullcap/tight-fisted git I find it slightly offensive. Although I hope that its just an in-joke.

                              If Jed was a Muslim would the ad have said JED RAGHEAD? One wonders
                              Anonymous -- Monday October 16 2006, @06:12AM (#237140)
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                              On topic: refers to trousers and... (Score:1)
                              ...it is a bad joke.

                              A man goes to the doctor's. Clearly in some discomfort, he pulls down his
                              trousers to reveal a lettuce leaf sticking out of his backside.

                              He turns to the doctor and says....... "and that's just the tip of the iceberg".
                              goinghome -- Monday October 16 2006, @11:07AM (#237165)
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                                Has anyone contacted NME? (Score:0)
                                Just a thought.
                                Anonymous -- Monday October 16 2006, @02:49PM (#237195)
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                                You tube. I love you. (Score:0)
                                Making anybody aware of that caption isn't a crime. Deciding on that caption may not have been wise but nor may it have been too sinister.

                                http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FcR9c_X3Shc
                                http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jwpO-nnFY9g
                                http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-AITZLfhFhg
                                http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ab-mbg1SLjw
                                http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FKIz1ooHTsU
                                http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5YFqPOGGYwQ

                                Keep the faith.
                                M23
                                Anonymous -- Monday October 16 2006, @05:10PM (#237201)
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                                • Re:Perspective by goinghome (Score:1) Tuesday October 17 2006, @12:24PM
                                  Re:shit stirring (Score:0)
                                  Absolutely rubbish.
                                  This thread should be removed.
                                  You are all shit stirring fuckwits.
                                  I hope Moz shits on all of you this Christmas.
                                  Anonymous -- Thursday October 12 2006, @02:15PM (#236818)
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                                    Re:shit stirring (Score:0)
                                    Stir shit? By reporting what is printed in a magazine avaliable to not only anyone in the U.K., but most of the world? Eh?
                                    Anonymous -- Thursday October 12 2006, @02:58PM (#236826)
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                                    Re: This Native American Morrissey fan says.... (Score:0)
                                    Fuck Off!!!
                                    Anonymous -- Thursday October 12 2006, @03:49PM (#236838)
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                                      Re:This is Morrissey's call to arms for proud Whit (Score:0)
                                      The scary thing about this persons comment, while it may be a wind up, is that Moz is actually pretty popular on the Stormfront site.
                                      Anonymous -- Thursday October 12 2006, @04:12PM (#236841)
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                                      Re:This is Morrissey's call to arms for proud Whit (Score:1)
                                      When did Morrissey say that?

                                      Just curious.
                                      dallow_bg <reversethis-{moc.loa} {ta} {77yobniarb}> -- Thursday October 12 2006, @05:08PM (#236849)
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                                      Please go away. (Score:1)
                                      You are not welcome here.
                                      danbutt * -- Thursday October 12 2006, @05:15PM (#236850)
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                                        Re:This is Morrissey's call to arms for proud Whit (Score:0)
                                        Ill informed rubbish and blind hatred because of colour. I pitty you.
                                        Anonymous -- Friday October 13 2006, @04:02AM (#236907)
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                                          Re:censorship in the interest of "quality control" (Score:0)
                                          Despite its undergirding of high technology, the World Wide Web is a human structure. It is a socio-cultural artifact of multiple, mind-constructed realities. It is a complex structure, but it is essentially human, and it immediately reveals its secrets to those who make intentional inquiry and who extract meaning from signs they encounter along their travels.

                                          PS: Hello Indie, I have a job 4 U to do.....
                                          Anonymous -- Friday October 13 2006, @11:10AM (#236975)
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                                            Re:censorship in the interest of "quality control" (Score:2, Funny)
                                            Yessssss, go on then you lovely little Anonymous person. As long as it's not shifting bodies and dragging them in't River Lune I'll agree.

                                            Tomorrow, I'll selling my mums and step dads records for some money! I'm such a rebel! but I'm ashamed to even be in the same house as a Cher record!!!!.

                                            On the other hand, step aside ladies and gents I am the master of Mr. Jed Weitzman and I personally think that it's nothing to do with Jed.
                                            I just think it's something to do with the NME, just another 'Jed' who works for the NME.
                                            Hello Indie <ellebo90@aol.com> -- Friday October 13 2006, @02:30PM (#237004)
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                                            God bless and cheer the FUCK up... http://inbuilt-guilt.livejournal.com/
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                                          • Re:Like, totally! by clearlyovercast (Score:1) Friday October 13 2006, @11:52AM
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                                            Re:UncleSkinny (Score:0)
                                            Are skinny and mike joyce mates then?
                                            Anonymous -- Saturday October 14 2006, @10:15AM (#237058)
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                                            Re:Morrissey the glorious White Nationalist (Score:1)
                                            you vile man....
                                            clearlyovercast -- Saturday October 14 2006, @11:47AM (#237063)
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                                            Re:Is this true? (Score:0, Insightful)
                                            He didn't. Rogan has no proof for it other than someone told him Morrissey said it when he was 17. Rogan has never revealed who that "someone" is.
                                            Anonymous -- Saturday October 14 2006, @01:16PM (#237071)
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                                            Re:LoL (Score:0)
                                            Why Birkenhead?
                                            You racist bastard.
                                            Anonymous -- Saturday October 14 2006, @09:13PM (#237083)
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                                              It appears so (Score:0)
                                              Er, I actually checked and 2 of the 3 statements are there. It's taken from Morrissey's journal when he was 19. Which would make it 1980? Not sure.

                                              I'm a bit wary now, if it was lies and Rogan published it (which he indeed did and apologises for in his book) then why has nothing legal come of it?

                                              I guess there is something to Racist Morrissey rumours after all . . it's there in black and white :( (or there in just white if you're a racist like Moz lol)
                                              Anonymous -- Sunday October 15 2006, @11:13AM (#237095)
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                                                Re:Spamming the Chatroom (Score:0)
                                                I told you how to do that after I discovered it by accident and now I wish I hadnt.

                                                While I was only doing it occasionally usually against people who were abusive to other chatters,you (the American spammer) on the other hand have gone mad spamming to the point where chat will probably get closed down.

                                                Stop now before it is too late.

                                                And btw it`s not only one or two other proxies that cause spamming due to some technical error or missmatch,several do,it`s just a case of knowing which.

                                                The ex British Spammer
                                                Anonymous -- Monday October 16 2006, @06:00AM (#237139)
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