ihate modestmouse. a collaboration iwas fine with, but joining up full-time im not so sure. well, maybe he'll turn it all around and theyll start makin music ican at least tolerate, but idoubt it. ifookin hate that guy's voice.

people who like Jam band music like Modest Mouse for some reason. Likewise, hippies like Strangeways Here We Come. strange but true.

So it looks like Johnny Marr will be selling more records than Morrissey by jumping on to Modest Mouse's success....is this going to make morrissey further try to please a mass market? i hope not. Morrissey is at his best when he simply does what he does best (and obviously what is on the radio sucks). the radio and mtv will never get it and see it as too risky.

Either way, interesting to hear what they'll come out with. Modest mouse may have been a one album wonder. it's common among these hipster bands. i think it is. I don't, i'm not a hipster, or a hippie.

when johnny marr will do something at the level of his talent! he spends his time playing guitars with nice guys but with the time, lets face it, morrissey should be a great source of inspiration for him...

modest mouse are shite

Maybe we should rename it 'Smiths-solo.com' so we'd have a legitimate reason to house Marr/Joyce/Rourke news on the main page of the website.

Sweet- now he'll sell some CDs for a change.

Johnny Marr is a session musician so I doubt he'll be a full member for very long. I mean come on guys, he can't even keep his own band together let alone stay in someone elses group. How many bands has Johnny been a member of lately? For those of you who are worried about him staying with Modest Mouse (whoever the hell thaey are?) I wouldn't be too concerned :)

Here's an interesting blog entry about Modest Mouse's fear of asking Johnny to play:

http://www.avclub.com/content/node/45051/ [avclub.com]

Pretty funny.

Anyone else think it's weird that he JOINED a band whose initials, MM, are the same as his famed alliance with Moz was termed?
Doo doo doo doooo...

It'll be nice hearing from Marr...after that atrocious album Moz put out..something worth buying I hope.

I heard Garth Brooks is looking for a new guitarist/songwriting partner... why not give 'im a ring and flush your credibility down the toilet even faster than the whole forthcoming Modest Mouse fiasco -err, I mean- collaboration?

"I was like "omg" like wtf,omg like this dude omg dude he'll never join dude omg like, wow omg this dude omg, he'll never like join omg" and I was like "omg like, this dude wtf! omg I was like dude, omg!"

congrats J Marr, great band!!

Dear Friends,

Whatever happened with The The and Marr's collaboration with the band? Marr's work on "Dusk" was amazing- my favourite of course being "Slow Emotion Replay." A terrific song.

Marr could have turned The The into an even bigger success. Any ideas?

Always
Ken S.

Not being familiar with this band, I checked their website and found this news: "With Modest Mouse on a feverish pace to finish their new album, the decision was made to remain in the studio and postpone the upcoming August dates."

How come there's such an outcry when Morrissey drops even one gig with reasonable cause while others can get away with broken promises?

Still they should be all the better for taking Marr on board, which might help distinguish their "noise, noise, noise" from the rest.

Still waiting for a proper 4th Electronic Album.

And not a piss poor ruddy Best Of.

Guess the Healers are history if Marr's turning his attention to Modest Mouse? The Healers first album didn't exactly set the world on fire did it?

This is akin to Morrissey joining Good Charlotte!. I guess the guitarist spot in Rod Stewart's band is not yet available and Nick Lachay is still relying on back-up recorded music.

Next current singer is let go and Moz joins MM.

YEAH!!!

if you guys would get out of your smiths rut, youd realize modest mouse were going for a long time, on indie credibility, until they "broke" with their last record...NOT anything like good charlotte, NOT anything like any hipster or hippie band...do i like them?...i think theyre ok...but i do respect them...as does johnny...
this all stems from john not working with moz...fine...but at least respect the man's choices...
& just think...if moz wasnt such a petulant little brat back in the day, john'd still be working with him---

I would like to thank the two above posters for injecting a bit of maturity, and intelligence into this froum for once. As an aging Moz fan, I find the modern Moz groupies to be nothing short of comical.

What's sad is watching so many presumably young Morrissey fans on here go through the exact same narrow minded process that I went through as a teenager listening to the man. The dismissive attitude toward anything that does not fit into the Morrissey paradigm is nothing short of cliche.

The term "cult follosing" is often applied tongue in cheek, but when it comes to Morrissey fans, it's literal. The "drink the Kool-Aid" mentality is not cool or anything remotely resembling any kind of individuality. The irony seems to be lost on many. Fortunately, I grew out of it, but it's still an embarrassing period to look back on.

I actually did not get into much of MM's back catalogue, but I did find their last album to be rather creative. In fact, the first time that I heard "Float On," I thought, Johnny Marr could have written that. The funk riff, along with the very witty and articulate hooks reminded me of his style of playing. Therefore, when I read that he was to be interacting with the band, it made perfect sense.

In short, the irony of the criticism against Marr's creative choices is striking when you consider that the man has clearly achieved somehting that many on here have not, and likely never will: Fulfillment

On a sidenote, I have found Morrissey fans in person, and particularly on the internet to be generally bitter, humorless, and not even remotely intellectual. In a certain sense, they are performing bland impersonations of Morrissey's overall character. The superficial interest in emotional impulses, and tabloid style quips is what seems to dominate.

In a way, it's as if Morrissey has given his fans a license to be insufferable assholes.

Clealry not all Morrissey influences have been positive ones.

If him joining Modest Mouse means he'll be spending more time here, that's totally ok with me, and all of the other Smiths fans that have had the pleasure to meet him. And he's way nicer than all of our B-list celebrities put together anyway. I have never been a MM fan, and don't really have an opnion on their music, but I can see why people like them, and why they don't. We've seen that JM's legacy remains secure, no matter many times he's stepped in it, and everyone in Indie music loves, and or, has been influenced by the Smiths, so this is just another chapter in the evolving history of the last true pop band.

Electronic is the modest band ever Marr involved. well, he doesnt have a good results of making his own band after The Smiths. perhaps this modest mouse could keep his 'guitarmojofortune' more brighter and cult.

Well he does!

A slightly more full, but still brief and breezy examination of Marr since The Smiths and his joining up with Modest Mouse is available at The Culture Drone [theculturedrone.com], if anyone is interested.

I'm with those of you who think this is (very possibly)going to be great! When I first heard "Float On" I thought the jangly guitar style sounded just like something Marr would have written in his prime. I only discovered MM with this last record and there are some GREAT songs on that record--most notably "The Good Times Are Killing Me." Johnny Marr has always been a musically restless spirit anyway and seems to thrive when he hooks up with different people. I like that.

I loved MM's last album. 'Float On' is an undeniably great song (better than anything Morrissey has done in years) 'The Ocean Breathes Salty' is a great song also. I don't know who produced "Good News" but I love the sound of the album. Much better than the mess Tony Visconti did on ROTT. Good for Johnny, Modest Mouse is a much better situation than The The, The Pretenders, Electronic, Bryan Ferry, Neil Young, and The Healers. This is a awesome for him. Isaac Brock is the real deal.

lame band he has been in now-
since he left the smiths

I heard Morrissey is going to join Death Cab For Cutie. That'll be awesome!

i think Immodest Mouse are hacks. sorry!

It's sad that Johnny has decided to go down this route and that the healers didn't really amount to very much, despite several months of trying. No one can really say that it is a surprise, being totally honest.

Those three have been down in the doldrums for several years. It's sad to see it end in this way but they all ran away to leave Morrissey to do it all on his own. God, the whole EMI thing stinks like crazy that they left him to get through all that.

And a world without heroes
is like a bird without wings
Or a bell that never rings
just a sad and useless thing

Cowards,

Strawberry.

it is a james rip off

listen to float on and then think about james, and you will see the obvious theft

it is s good song ( go figure i like james) but lets face it in this case, they need each other, JM has fuck all going on, and modest mouse need to be elevated form couldnt make it hacks that had a hit into a band.

should be interesting

Modest Mouse are not hacks by any means and most of you say you haven't even heard any of their songs before Float On. God what are you twerps listening to. The CD with Float On on it is their worst CD but still a good listen. They have been making incredible music since 1994. Go back and listen to their records they are amazing. It makes sense that Johnny is joining.

OMG!! What a total disgrace!
What a long line of disappointing talent he has engaged his name along with.

I am not a fan.... of his Solo work.. what *SO* ever!!

Disgusted as EVER
Mozluv