Morrissey on the Sex Pistols in the NME, Glastonbury movie mention
posted by davidt on Friday February 10 2006, @10:00AM

lozzamozza writes:
In the NME dated 11-02-2006 there are two small articles with MOZ (scan).

One is regarding "Glasto:The movie" and the other
is about MOZ's comment on the SEX PISTOLS.

 
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Didn't moz say.. (Score:1)
That he thought it was sad that people to listen to such "'no talents' as the Sex Pistols and The Ramones?"
Geek of the Week -- Friday February 10 2006, @12:42PM (#197589)
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  • Re:Didn't moz say.. by Anonymous (Score:0) Friday February 10 2006, @01:19PM
    • Re:Didn't moz say.. by Anonymous (Score:0) Friday February 10 2006, @01:25PM
      • Re:Didn't moz say.. by ohglen (Score:1) Friday February 10 2006, @03:41PM
        • Re:Didn't moz say.. by Anonymous (Score:0) Friday February 10 2006, @03:45PM
          • what I said was.... by dallow_bg (Score:1) Saturday February 11 2006, @06:19PM
            • Re:Didn't moz say.. (Score:2, Interesting)
              Think about it--it is seriously reaching to say that this comment signified racism. What a crock of shit. All of a sudden, everyone at the NME "forgot" that Morrissey totally fucks with interviewers and says all sorts of outrageous things and off-hand comments. What douchebags they had running that rag in the 90s.

              And don't forget Cornershop! Morrissey was so racist, they had to burn his picture in front of the NME offices. Now, where are they, again? Oh, that's right...looks like that publicity stunt really did the trick.

              And yet, so many on this site take these unsubstantiated rumors and specualation at its word, neglecting to even acknowledge Morrissey's tongue-in-cheek tendencies. How many rumors have been taken as fact by m-solo's trolls, leading to yet more rumors?
              glamorous shoplifter -- Monday February 13 2006, @05:26AM (#197871)
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      what! (Score:1)
      What a jack-ass. Long live the "greatest Rock n Roll swindle"!!
      handsome devil -- Saturday February 11 2006, @06:04AM (#197724)
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        Notice (Score:1)
        that he didn't say anything about the music though. The whole point of the very brief punk movement (and we're talking brief here because 'punk' died out after about three years) was to have a bunch of talentless Trotskyists stirring things up and contradicting themselves at every turn.
        It was less about music and more about image and originality; in that sense, I believe the Pistols would have been a 'breathtaking' sight in the mid 70's. Aside from 'Pretty Vacant' though, the music was crap. But without them there'd be none of the post-punk that most of us love.
        I guess I've just stated the bleedin' obvious, as always.
        Mozzersgirl -- Saturday February 11 2006, @08:03AM (#197737)
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        But we can't give you love and rhetoric without the blood. Blood is compulsory.
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          Re:Notice (Score:2, Informative)
          lol. I didn't know that Punk Rock was a Trotskyist plot. If so, the world has much to thank the anarcho-syndicalist movement for. I would say that punk was attitude before anything else. It took the British to add fashion to the mix, which really was the most glorious and ridiculous gesture, but ultimately uniforms do make a difference.

          I have always maintained that Morrissey is one of our greatest punk performers. He had such *ahem* balls back in the day. He really put so many screaming, self-righteous hardcores to shame. The genius of the Smiths for me was their ability to put white-hot rebellion in a pop context - and the music really mattered.

          This is why I just love who he is now, because he's still holding a torch, and putting "punk" attitude in a crooner-Sinatra context, which is just absolutely, completely brilliant.
          Anaesthesine -- Saturday February 11 2006, @08:41AM (#197744)
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          We will burn that bridge when we come to it...
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            Re:Notice (Score:2, Insightful)
            Yes, I do have a tendency to exaggerate at times. However, I was after a bit of alliteration and a way of expressing the rebellious ethos of punk. I'm sure old Leon would have approved.
            I agree with you that punk attitude is still alive and kicking, and Morrissey is a good example of that. However, that which the 70's labeled punk music now has no connection with the original ideas behind the movement; witness the joke that are Towers of London.
            For something to be punk music these days it would have to push the boundaries of decency and good taste and cause as much revulsion as devotion ... In that sense, (and I hate to say this) Pete Doherty is probably the closest thing the kids have to a punk artist, for the fact his music is terrible, his performances shambolic and quite possibly violent and he is lauded in the media as an example of everything wrong with Britain. Ah, The Libertines, what a shame.
            And yet, according to my definition of punk music, I guess Bon Jovi would also fit in quite nicely; I love the title of their recent DVD, '1000000 Bon Jovi fans can't be wrong' ... oh yes they can Jon, just remember Nazi Germany.
            Mozzersgirl -- Sunday February 12 2006, @05:22AM (#197796)
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            But we can't give you love and rhetoric without the blood. Blood is compulsory.
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              Bon Jovi, Freedom Fighter (Score:2, Interesting)
              If the current definition of "punk" is terrible music, a lack of talent and uncontrollable anger, then punk rock the dominant artform of our times.

              Seriously, though, I was not around for the pure '70s punk experience, but it seems to me that the end-of-our-rope ethos that pervaded the times mutated into the scene that I was a part of in the '80s (at least here in the States). We were very idealistic and political, and used chaos and aural alienation to make a point about confronting pain (or some such artistic nonsense).

              As for Bon Jovi, he is a local boy, and I remember when he was playing little bars and such. I never actually had anything against him, even when I was a young, righteous, screaming punk myself. He actually turned out to be a nice enough fellow. He is involved in local politics, and campaigned against Bush nationally, which I really appreciated. "Have a Nice Day" is not much of a battle cry, though.

              Anaesthesine -- Sunday February 12 2006, @07:17AM (#197798)
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              We will burn that bridge when we come to it...
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        • Re:Notice by Anonymous (Score:0) Sunday February 12 2006, @03:23PM
            Re:Notice (Score:2, Interesting)
            I don't accept the media view unquestioningly. I simply believe that the music isn't really 'punk' any more as it has no sense of rebellion, uniqueness, or anger. I agree with Anaesthesine that Morrissey is probably the best example of the original punk attitude, in that he refuses to conform.
            I accept that you and the '400 sweaty kids' may have seen some very exciting 'hardcore' bands, but they were playing derivitive music. As Mark Simpson points out in 'Saint Morrissey', punk was originally a term for a rent boy, and was adopted by the movement to subvert the fashion and musical culture and cause a general sense of disquiet amongst the chattering classes. As the term is still widely applied to the music of that counterculture, I accept that people still use it to denote the music; there is, as yet, no other term for the cacophony of three chords and a tuneless singer (and before you say it, yes I happen to like some punk bands). However, it is not nonsense to say that punk incorporates a fashionable and social agenda; it is bound to, in the same way that nu metal, dance, indie, or even boy/girl band pop does. But whilst the former categories are willing to admit, even revel in their derivation, the ethos of punk was originality ... and I'm sorry but, for me, any band rehashing what the Sex Pistols and their 70's cohorts began are not truly punk.
            But let's not quibble eh! I still maintain post-punk is better, but to be honest labels just pigeonhole unneccesarily. If you like a band, who cares what they're called or what their genre may be.
            Happy punk rocking.
            Mozzersgirl -- Monday February 13 2006, @07:01AM (#197877)
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            But we can't give you love and rhetoric without the blood. Blood is compulsory.
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            • Re:Notice by Anonymous (Score:0) Tuesday February 14 2006, @08:32AM
              • Re:Notice by goinghome (Score:1) Tuesday February 14 2006, @12:58PM
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          ljg olo (Score:0)
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          Anonymous -- Sunday February 12 2006, @01:20AM (#197788)
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