Why should Hooky play things that he hates!
I used to love telling Swiss tossers to go forth and multiply when they asked for shit.

or as me for that matter.

Hook can play what he likes but really what fecking age is he to be so juvenile? One trick pony!

I wouldn't pay very much attention to this comment, I really wouldn't. New Order are on another battlefield.

Strawberry.

This type of name-calling is really for folks who work with a brain-stem only.

It's one thing to not like another's music, but to use language like "twat" is really just plain childish.

If someone asked me to play something I didn't like- I would probably say "Sorry, can't help you!" or

"I don't care for that artist because..."

I am also not sure of what to make of the whole DJ tour-thing, anyway.

New Order has talent- but you can't compare them to Morrissey or the Smiths. It would be like comparing-
Kate Bush to Britney Spears

Lou Reed to Peter Gabriel

Siouxie to Madonna

Whitney Houston to Sade

need I go on?

Always,
Ken S.

Hooky is just a bass player and unless you are a bass player going under any name other than Andy Rourke, Kim Deal or Carlos D your opinion is totally redundant.

Just as an aside, are New Order the most over-rated band ever or would that honour fall to U2 or the Who. It's a close call.

peter hook is a dick.

i may as well be honest right?

I don't care for Peter Hulk's opinion. He's just an unpolite person, the one who thinks he's got compelling arguments other than his bad words. All I have to say is: Andy Rourke is far better than Peter Bollocks. Joy Division is a boring band. Ian Curtis may be a great lyricist but he used to explore only one facet of poetry: Drama. Morrissey achieves the various possibilities poetry may offer in a way that the listener identify to. Bernard Winter is an horrendous singer and liricyst. By the time he was J. Division's guitarrist nobody payed that much attention at him.
Dance music is crap and it is the only thing New Old Order contributed to. The Smiths is undoubtely a Top 5 band of England's rock n roll history.

I've read several articles about members of New Order hating the Smiths and Morrisssey in particular. I even suffered through one long interview in German with New Order around the time that Who Put the M in Manchester was released. They spent an entire page trashing Moz. I can't remember the whole thing, but one comment went something to the effect of they loved the title of the DVD because (and I'm trying to translate here) "If Morrissey had even bothered to ask anyone he would know that every single inhabinant of Manchester hates him like the plague" They also went on to say that "quite simply put he is a bastard and not nice to his contemporaries". It's quite obvious that they are jealous of Moz and for some reason find the need to bash him.

Peter Who? Lives where? Does what? Why?

Ashes passing by - leaving no trace

Ennio Birrocone

What a complete wanker! Who is Peter bloody Hook to have a go at good old Steven?

I have always felt a bit uneasy when thinking of the geezers in New Order, and this just makes me even more so. and this despite me loving Joy Division.

But it sounds like plain old jealousy to me, doesn't it? Peter Hook is far from Morrissey when it comes to creating his art, touching people with it and looking tremendous while doing it. And old Hooky knows it, I'm sure

New Order absolutely blows.

that guy is! He's used to DJs who aren't total assholes, can you imagine?

He always speaks like a rudely awaken premenstruating bear, lol, you just wanna give him a great big hug, really. (he'd probably accidentally knock you out but oh well.)

"Aaahaww. Gruff! Northern! Bliss".

Now, Pete, here's what you could say next time to sound more politically correct; don't say: "Fooooook off! I ain't playing that, he's a fookin' twat!", just say, for instance, "Morrissey is a Vanilla Ice gone wrong, therefore and with all due respect for your opinion, I shall not play his song."

We'll all know what you mean.

PS Just yesterday I introduced my innocent foreign 23 y.o. flatmate to the joys of Bizarre Love Triangle.
The song.

As much respect as I have for Joy Division and New Order, I hate the way they've always felt the need to slag off their contemporaries; mainly The Smiths and The Cure. But they never give any good reason why, which immediately indicates jealousy. At least when Robert Smith or Moz have a dig at each other, they point to their respective musical styles, or lyrical differences. C'mon Hooky, just because you think Moz is a twat doesn't mean you shouldn't play him. If you're a DJ and his music is within the genre of the night as it's billed, you have to respect the wishes of your clientele. Otherwise you just sound like a petulant child.

If you watch the filmed commentary that Peter Hook supplies on the 2-disc DVD of 'Twenty Four Hour Party People' you'll actually here him euoligise The Smiths and make the point that he thinks Tony Wilson made a poor error of judgement in not signing The Smiths.

I think the whole thing is a case of Northern(or Mancunian) pride. Kind of a 'We Hate It When Our Friends Become Successful' type of thing.

morrissey is a twat t-shirt [photobucket.com].

I really couldn't care less if anyone else besides myself liked Morrissey. Actually it would make life a lot easier. To all above: take 3 diazepam and talk to me in the morning.

New Order can't hate the Smiths or else Bernard and Johnny would have never been Electronic.
  Mr. R. Smith of the Cure has been very negative about Moz too.
  And Moz too of many others.
  They humans just like you and me who like to talk shite and then say that they are not like that.
  And lastly, someone already said that if JD hadn't not existed the Smiths would have not came about.
Let's not forget that NO has outsold Smiths/Moz. Blue Monday was the best selling album of all-time.