The Kills on Morrissey
posted by davidt on Monday July 18 2005, @10:00AM

Hello Indie writes:
The frontwoman from The Kills, Alison, has commented on Morrissey in the NME, as him being a loser and far too overrated.

"It's just him. His voice drives me crazy. When I was in college I lived in a house with two huge fans and he was on all the time; that obsession some people have with Morrissey is something that I just don't get. He seems like a loser and an arsehole to me, and from what I've heard.

 
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And to think.. (Score:1)
And to think I bought your bloody records too !!, shame on you!!.
Hello Indie <i_am_indie@hotmail.com> -- Monday July 18 2005, @10:13AM (#171917)
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You can shoot me, throw me off a train. But I still remain. Can you stop this pain?.
    Who? (Score:1)
    And who are The Kills anyway? I don't think people would miss 'them' if they ceased to exist! What a pointless thing to say; probably said it to get recognition, how sad!
    Kristina * -- Monday July 18 2005, @10:21AM (#171921)
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    • Re:Who? by Hello Indie (Score:1) Monday July 18 2005, @10:23AM
      • Re:Who? by methadone (Score:1) Monday July 18 2005, @10:34AM
      • Re:Who? by Anonymous (Score:0) Monday July 18 2005, @10:39AM
        • Re:Who? by RaceCarDriver (Score:1) Monday July 18 2005, @01:07PM
          • Re:Who? by rusholmruff (Score:1) Monday July 18 2005, @11:44PM
          Polar opposites (Score:0)
          He always ellicits extreme reactions - love or loathing.

          For me, he is unique and incomparable as a lyricist and singer.

          For others, his words mean bugger all.

          I think it depends on the kind of life you have lived!
          Anonymous -- Monday July 18 2005, @10:23AM (#171924)
          Whatever (Score:1)
          My best friends hate him and poke fun at me for liking him. It's not for everyone! It's not like the Kills are any good but there's no reason to be upset with him for having that opinion.
          ed is dead -- Monday July 18 2005, @10:29AM (#171927)
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          "Here in the water we need fish to teach us how to communicate without drowning" - monopot
          • Re:Whatever by Kristina (Score:1) Monday July 18 2005, @10:54AM
            Remember (Score:4, Funny)
            Hey, remember when the Kills wrote a good song? Me either.
            Galacto -- Monday July 18 2005, @10:41AM (#171931)
            (User #14459 Info | http://www.thearcherbus.com/ )
            • Re:Remember by vauxhall and me (Score:1) Tuesday July 19 2005, @10:40AM
              How old is she? (Score:0)
              I thought only 14 year olds put down people by calling them a "loser". It's like something from the school playground.
              Anonymous -- Monday July 18 2005, @10:44AM (#171933)
              Howl at the Moon (Score:0)
              She's one to talk about annoying singing voices.
              Anonymous -- Monday July 18 2005, @11:05AM (#171936)
                please... (Score:0)
                oh how tedious the tirade is.

                live and let live please, life is too short to worry about what other people like or dislike, it's hardly the end of the world if someone you don't even know doesn't like a band that you like now is it?
                Anonymous -- Monday July 18 2005, @11:13AM (#171939)
                  Alison... (Score:1)
                  ...obviously she's a twat.
                  Let's just kill The kills.
                  Anybody buying their album will be slapped by me with wet gladioly.
                  Southpaw Boxer -- Monday July 18 2005, @11:16AM (#171941)
                  (User #14222 Info)
                    Oh yeah, well... (Score:0)
                    I bought one of your records two years ago and still haven't made it all the way through it. It comes across as bad background noise. Learn about song structure, please! Charles
                    Anonymous -- Monday July 18 2005, @11:27AM (#171943)
                    • err? by Anonymous (Score:0) Monday July 18 2005, @11:36AM
                      The Kills are losers (Score:0)
                      They should crawl back into the hole they came out of.
                      Anonymous -- Monday July 18 2005, @11:49AM (#171948)
                        Who gives a nut .... (Score:0)
                        Furgitaboutit !!!
                        Anonymous -- Monday July 18 2005, @12:13PM (#171951)
                          This was in NME a few weeks back (Score:2, Insightful)
                          The exact same column.
                          What are they trying to do? Perhaps they have to mention him every week in some sort of continual apology. Or maybe it didn't generate enough of a response the first time around for reader's to begin an, 'I hate Moz' / 'I love Moz' argument.
                          Morrissey is the Marmite of music. Discuss.
                          And as for whatsername from the thingymibobs, she'll soon be weeping into the void of her own obscurity.
                          Enough said.
                          Mozzersgirl -- Monday July 18 2005, @02:33PM (#171967)
                          (User #14229 Info)
                          But we can't give you love and rhetoric without the blood. Blood is compulsory.
                            The Kills are great. (Score:1)
                            no where near Moz, but still great.

                            ive heard before that shes quite anti-Moz and thats somewhat ofa shame, but hes certainly not for everyone, juste like The Kills arent for everyone either.

                            id be interested in what Moz thinks of them, especially as they likely draw significant inspiration from the likes of Patti Smith and PJ Harvey judging by their sound. idoubt he would like them (regardless of what they think of him) but id be interested to know for certain.
                            chrisarclark <clarkinatorclark@hotmail.com> -- Monday July 18 2005, @02:36PM (#171969)
                            (User #9259 Info)
                            "I'm just passing through here on my way to somewhere civilized and maybe I'll even arrive, maybe I'll even arrive..."
                              Her old band was much better. (Score:0)
                              Eh, she was better in Discount. The Kills are boring as hell.
                              Anonymous -- Monday July 18 2005, @04:45PM (#171982)
                                Hmm, interesting experiment (Score:4, Interesting)
                                When a band or bandmember likes Morrissey, what are most of the reactions regarding that band's music?

                                When a band or bandmember hates Morrissey, what are most of the reactions regarding that band's music?

                                The same?

                                Just thought I'd ask...
                                Jim Rome -- Monday July 18 2005, @05:10PM (#171987)
                                (User #720 Info | http://www.jimrome.com/ )
                                Rome's Smack-tionary coming soon....yeah, this time I mean it.
                                discount was far better... (Score:1)
                                this girl is from florida. since when do people from florida say "arsehole?" you're trying to hard allison...
                                Anthony -- Monday July 18 2005, @05:35PM (#171990)
                                (User #980 Info)
                                  Little Girl in black with 'attitude' (Score:0)
                                  No-one has to like Moz. Each his or her own. But to say 'oh and I think he's an asshole, from what I've heard like' or whatever it is she said. It's a bit beneath her I'd like to think. It's a tad childish and ill advised. Grow up dear, act your age.
                                  Anonymous -- Monday July 18 2005, @05:36PM (#171991)
                                    who are the kills? (Score:0)
                                    who the fuck are the kills?wank name too.
                                    Anonymous -- Monday July 18 2005, @09:52PM (#172030)
                                      Awful (Score:0)
                                      I had the misfortune of seeing the Kills support franz ferdinand earlier this year, and they were absolutely fucking awful, the poor mans white stripes in fact. They were greeted by a hail of abuse after every song...
                                      Anonymous -- Tuesday July 19 2005, @12:09AM (#172049)
                                      • Re:Awful by jammystressfordpoet (Score:1) Tuesday July 19 2005, @02:43AM
                                        The Kills Zzzzzz (Score:5, Funny)
                                        The Kills are bloody awful. I saw them with Franz Ferdinand last year, christ they are mind-numbingly dull.

                                        I actually attended a gig yesterday, which had a great bill, Vincent Vincent and the Villains, The Mitchell Brothers and Patrick Wolf, but it had the Kills headlining. I'm glad to say that we left after Patrick Wolf. I think Johnny Marr voted the first Kills album as one of his favourites of 2003.
                                        jammystressfordpoet -- Tuesday July 19 2005, @02:36AM (#172056)
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                                        A boy in the bush is worth two in the hands I think I can help you get through your exams
                                          Opinion??? (Score:1)
                                          To be fair, she was only giving her opinion. I know if I didn't like a musician and it was played at me constantly, that musician would begin to get on my nerves.

                                          I indeed have a friend of the same persuasion as this girl because of my obsessive Morrissey playing.
                                          angelangel <eralc1980@gmail.com> -- Tuesday July 19 2005, @03:23AM (#172062)
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                                          • Re:Opinion??? by Anonymous (Score:0) Tuesday July 19 2005, @03:49AM
                                            The Kills = Nothing (Score:0)
                                            The world is really full of crashing bores.
                                            Anonymous -- Tuesday July 19 2005, @03:32AM (#172063)
                                            old news is no news (Score:0)
                                            I posted this "story" on the discussion board weeks ago.
                                            Hail me and worship me.

                                            iseeyou.
                                            Anonymous -- Tuesday July 19 2005, @04:41AM (#172072)
                                            The Kills (Score:0)
                                            The lastest album is actually really good, she's only expressing her opinion, something Moz has done more than once!!!
                                            Anonymous -- Tuesday July 19 2005, @04:49AM (#172073)
                                            • Re:The Kills by Anonymous (Score:0) Tuesday July 19 2005, @05:13AM
                                              • Re:The Kills by Hello Indie (Score:1) Tuesday July 19 2005, @05:31AM
                                              • Re:The Kills by Anonymous (Score:0) Tuesday July 19 2005, @09:08AM
                                                • Re:The Kills by Anonymous (Score:0) Tuesday July 19 2005, @10:05AM
                                                  • Re:The Kills by glamorous shoplifter (Score:1) Tuesday July 26 2005, @12:46PM
                                                • Re:The Kills by glamorous shoplifter (Score:1) Tuesday July 26 2005, @09:08AM
                                                  The Kills? (Score:0)
                                                  There just a shitty Indie band hyped up by people who think there better than everybody else. There not original @ all 2 people band wow there so White Stripes!! NO WOW! thats funny thats the name of their douch bag album now available anywhere in the bargain bin for 50¢ Morrissey rocks asshole or not he is still the man Respect by Bowie thats some big Name there with out moz there wont be Interpol,The Killers and Etc.
                                                  The Kills are done
                                                  Next....
                                                  im just posting anonymously becuase i dont want spam but my name is Dan
                                                  Anonymous -- Tuesday July 19 2005, @06:00AM (#172087)
                                                  Sad (Score:2, Informative)
                                                  Yes but in reality, had indie bands such as the Smiths not come into existence back in the day, upstart indie bands of today may not have had a chance to make it in the industry whatsoever! So really, in a way, she's taking a bite out of the hand that has fed!

                                                  Oh such a silly animal.
                                                  Sullen -- Tuesday July 19 2005, @09:49AM (#172107)
                                                  (User #11477 Info)
                                                  Resentments are like drinking poison and hoping that the other person dies.
                                                  • Good point! by Anonymous (Score:0) Tuesday July 19 2005, @05:58PM
                                                    Who? (Score:0)
                                                    Who are The Kills?

                                                    Jackie Martling :)
                                                    Anonymous -- Tuesday July 19 2005, @10:34AM (#172119)
                                                      Alison (Score:0)
                                                      Alison, I know this world is killing you.
                                                        Oh Alison, my aim is true.

                                                                soon to be covered by Moz in his annoying voice!
                                                      Anonymous -- Tuesday July 19 2005, @10:37AM (#172120)
                                                      sorrow will come in the end (Score:0)
                                                      to this terrible girl and her terrible band. i dont know a soul who's ever heard of "the kills" and anyone with that sort of venom toward Moz is ALWAYS jealous of his fame, popularity, talent, and the reaction his fans give him, which is unlike any artist in history. her and her group are already a long forgotten footnote to nothing.
                                                      theambitiousoutsider -- Tuesday July 19 2005, @11:15AM (#172125)
                                                      (User #11990 Info)
                                                        Turning the knife (Score:2, Interesting)
                                                        I don't know this Alison woman and I don't know anything of The Kills but I loose faith in us Morrissey fans sometimes when we blindly attack statements like hers.

                                                        We all know Moz, as a bloke, is probably an absolute nightmare half the time. If not all the time. He's goes out of his way to blatantly point this out both in interview and lyrics.

                                                        I met Moz once and we spoke for about an hour believe it or not. He was terrific, outlandish, shy and hilarious. But most fans know he can be a right little fucker when he wants to be. I bet Alison has heard the worst of it and naturally made her own assumptions. Fair enough.
                                                        Stan * <stanleymchale@mac.com> -- Tuesday July 19 2005, @04:11PM (#172140)
                                                        (User #9752 Info | http://www.stanleymchale.merseyblogs.co.uk/ )
                                                        • Re:Turning the knife by Anonymous (Score:0) Tuesday July 19 2005, @10:49PM
                                                          • Re:Nerve by goinghome (Score:1) Thursday July 21 2005, @11:31AM
                                                            • Re:Turning the knife by glamorous shoplifter (Score:1) Tuesday July 26 2005, @12:41PM
                                                              • Re:Turning the knife by Anonymous (Score:0) Tuesday July 26 2005, @01:38PM
                                                                  Re:Turning the knife (Score:2, Insightful)
                                                                  Completely true. It's almost as if some fans are trying to give off an air of cool detachment by saying, "Oh, I love Morrissey, but I'm sure he's a real asshole." There is really no basis for that idea; there are just as many contradictions to the stories of him being a bastard as there are stories. Jesus, these people can actually MEET Moz, think he's lovely, and still claim he's probably horrible anyway. I always point to the same thing: Boz, Alain and Gary (for the most part) have been with Moz for 14 years! If he was really such a jerk, why would they be so loyal? Most bands don't stay together a fraction of that time.
                                                                  glamorous shoplifter -- Wednesday July 27 2005, @04:33AM (#172921)
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                                                              Discount was soooo bad! (Score:0)
                                                              I haven't heard the Kills yet, but Discount really sucked. See, when I was a jr. college teen I was obsessed with Morrissey. A weirdo from college radio, Tim Lyman, became obsessed with me. He ran a little record label, Liquid Meat (pured murder), but I always knew it would fail because he had such BAD TASTE IN MUSIC. He would send me these Discount records that just had NO INTERESTING SONGS! I would resell them to the local record stores immediately. Eventually the Tim dude gave up on the music biz and went into porn (ironically, he used to respond to my rejections by sending porn magazines to my house!)
                                                              He runs http://www.literotica.com/ and uses his middle name, Manu.
                                                              Anonymous -- Tuesday July 19 2005, @05:48PM (#172148)
                                                                wait who is the kills? (Score:1)
                                                                its sad that a band needs to hate someone just to be in the public eye pitty
                                                                tata -- Tuesday July 19 2005, @06:27PM (#172152)
                                                                (User #11047 Info)
                                                                  My mate..... (Score:1)
                                                                  .....'Marmite' - you just have to accept that people either love Moz or hate him. There is no middle ground.
                                                                  Auric Goldfinger -- Tuesday July 19 2005, @11:52PM (#172171)
                                                                  (User #3416 Info)
                                                                  Do my eyes deceive me, or is Senna's Lotus sounding rough?
                                                                    Moz to change lyrics to Friday Mourning? (Score:2, Funny)
                                                                    "And when they push me down the stairs, I see the faces all lined up before me of parents and of teaches and bosses and little-known singers from frankly third-rate indie bands, who all share a point of view, 'you are a loser'"!!
                                                                    Maurice
                                                                    Anonymous -- Wednesday July 20 2005, @12:31AM (#172174)
                                                                    What difference does it make? (Score:1)
                                                                    For over twenty years people seeking cheap publicity have dropped the name Morrissey. This girl it seems, is just another.
                                                                    The Riddler -- Wednesday July 20 2005, @10:03AM (#172217)
                                                                    (User #12286 Info)
                                                                      www.thekills.tv (Score:1)
                                                                      They have a website up and running and I have just sent an email to them (thekills@thekills.tv) saying Hi Alison your voice drives me crazy. You seem like a loser and an arsehole to me but thats just my opinion. I had to do it.
                                                                      deaf witness -- Wednesday July 20 2005, @04:34PM (#172287)
                                                                      (User #14353 Info)
                                                                      You better not mess with Mr. Moz (Score:0)
                                                                      If you Looking for trouble, you came to the right place..
                                                                      Anonymous -- Thursday July 21 2005, @03:44AM (#172329)
                                                                      Moz loser? (Score:1)
                                                                      Alison who?
                                                                      Ivanhoe -- Friday July 22 2005, @05:45AM (#172408)
                                                                      (User #13750 Info)
                                                                        The Cure Rules!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1 (Score:0)
                                                                        That chick is right on the money, Moz is voice is so annoying, I hate that bastard and his fans are the worst what a bunch of fags... I love me some burgers.. Meat is so yummy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
                                                                        Anonymous -- Friday July 22 2005, @01:41PM (#172485)
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