MorrisseyTour.com follow-up on collaboration item
posted by davidt on Thursday July 14 2005, @09:00AM

From MorrisseyTour.com:

Thursday, July 14, 2005

OK stop e-mailing me

Okay, stop e-mailing me about the Morrissey collaboration thingy. Also it must be a very slow week in Morrissey news for that to be top story on Morrissey-solo.com. It's not so much a story as it is an interesting tidbit. Initially I was given permission to release the details about the new collaborators but then a week later I was asked not to. Apparently the band is nervous that if the info gets out Moz will change his mind or something. I dunno. Also, I got the impression that the guys in the band were only collaborating for a few songs. I didn't get the impression that they were writing a whole album or taking over for Boz or Alain.

I haven't seen any correct guesses. No, it's definately not Oasis! All I can say without giving it away is that they were an 80's band. I think their peak period was 1980-81. They played a gig last year so I guess they're still going in some capacity? There's a book about them due to be released soon.

As soon as I can release the details I will. But probably by then someone would have already figured it out.

 
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Cockney Rejects... (Score:4, Informative)
Pretty sure it's these boys...peak was '80/'81, the aforementioned fanbase issues, and there's the book coming out soon (see the official site).

Now, for the music experts, what do you see coming from a collaboration like this?? I have no idea because I've never listened to them.

king leer * -- Thursday July 14 2005, @09:04AM (#171407)
(User #80 Info)
Tidbit? (Score:1, Insightful)
News that Morrissey is working with people other than the people he has worked with for the best part of 14 years is hardly 'a tidbit'. Don't post such news and not expect an influx of interest.
Anonymous -- Thursday July 14 2005, @09:05AM (#171408)
  • Re:Tidbit? by Anonymous (Score:0) Thursday July 14 2005, @09:07AM
    • Re:Tidbit? by Johnny Marr (Score:1) Thursday July 14 2005, @10:00AM
      I would guess.... (Score:2, Interesting)
      How about Bauhaus...they were peaking in 80/81 and been back around lately due to musicians siting them as an influence. Anyone else agree with me here? I am not sure about the book or show appearance...too lazy to look it up...
      SeaDocked -- Thursday July 14 2005, @09:09AM (#171410)
      (User #7779 Info)
      Boxing Depression with a Southpaw fist...
      To tease, torment and tantalize (Score:0)
      A very slow week in Morrissey news? Oh, please!
      Anonymous -- Thursday July 14 2005, @09:12AM (#171412)
      And it tis... (Score:0)
      Gang of Four.
      Anonymous -- Thursday July 14 2005, @09:15AM (#171413)
      Pretenders (Score:2, Insightful)
      He is close to fellow veggie Chrissie Hynde.
      Dagenham Dave * -- Thursday July 14 2005, @09:26AM (#171415)
      (User #953 Info)
      • Re:Pretenders by Anonymous (Score:0) Thursday July 14 2005, @02:31PM
      • Re:Pretenders by LearningToCrawl (Score:1) Monday July 18 2005, @09:42AM
        morrisseytour.com sucks (Score:2, Insightful)
        >Initially I was given permission to release the details about the new collaborators but then a week later I was asked not to. Apparently the band is nervous that if the info gets out Moz will change his mind or something.

        but you went ahead and released the info anyways even though the band requested you not to? well that's nice of you.

        then you insult us at morrissey-solo because we made a big deal of it even though obviously it's big news. you're a jack ass and your site morrisseytour is a joke (well ok except when there is actually a tour going on)...but plese, show some respect to everyone involved. if morrissey pulls out of the collaboration we have you to blame for it. oh but of course it's just a tidbit.

        you relesed it because you wanted the attention.
        Anonymous -- Thursday July 14 2005, @09:36AM (#171420)
        The Jam (Score:1)
        That is my second and final guess. Makes sense - "That's Entertainment" and all.
        Dagenham Dave * -- Thursday July 14 2005, @09:37AM (#171421)
        (User #953 Info)
        • Re:The Jam by Paneeks (Score:1) Thursday July 14 2005, @10:04AM
          • Re:The Jam by Anonymous (Score:0) Thursday July 14 2005, @11:20AM
            • Re:The Jam by goinghome (Score:1) Thursday July 14 2005, @11:50AM
          • Re:The Jam by Anonymous (Score:0) Thursday July 14 2005, @11:25AM
            • Re:The Jam by moderndayphilistine (Score:1) Thursday July 14 2005, @01:03PM
              • Re:The Jam by DanielGaunt (Score:1) Saturday July 16 2005, @10:18AM
                • Re:The Jam by Satan accepted mine (Score:1) Sunday July 17 2005, @01:31PM
              It is Sparks (Score:0)
              one of Morrissey's longtime favourites.
              Anonymous -- Thursday July 14 2005, @09:38AM (#171423)
              Does it make them feel important? (Score:3, Insightful)
              I always thought they were egotists over at Morrisseytour.com. To tell people to stop emailing them over this revelation and then add fuel to the fire by adding a little bit more information confirms this. They obviously enjoy the attention.
              Unfortunately there seems to be a trend with Morrissey's web-based fans to want to appear that they are "in the know."
              Any genuine fan with true gossip about Moz would keep it to themselves.
               
              English Martyr -- Thursday July 14 2005, @09:40AM (#171427)
              (User #655 Info | http://website.lineone.net/~smilingontim/timstwin.htm )
              Van Halen (Score:3, Funny)
              It is definitely Van Halen. My grandmother e-mailed me about it and said it is definitely Eddie and the gang. Morrissey has signed a contract to borrow David Lee Roth's spandex gear and do flying leaps from the drum kit. 80-81 was before Hagar, so anything before them could be considered their peak. A book that chronicles the massive worldwide hit, Right Now, is coming out soon I think. Plus they played a backyard bbq gig last year (in my mind).
              Anonymous -- Thursday July 14 2005, @09:48AM (#171431)
              • Re:Van Halen by hergle (Score:1) Thursday July 14 2005, @03:55PM
                • Re:Van Halen by jammystressfordpoet (Score:1) Thursday July 14 2005, @11:59PM
                  • Re:Van Halen by mg196 (Score:1) Sunday July 17 2005, @04:46AM
                    "The Stray Cats" ? (Score:1)
                    Played Brixton last year and still on very good form...
                    carnal artist -- Thursday July 14 2005, @09:48AM (#171432)
                    (User #7076 Info)
                    Why post the item if they didn't expect interest (Score:1, Insightful)
                    What a rude response to our perfectly natural attempts to guess a collaborator that they posted about in the first place!!
                    Why on earth would someone post about a topic if they didn't expect interest?
                    Who in their right mind would post a topic about a potential collaborator, give 'clues' and not expect discussion?
                    Why would someone then perpetuate the topic even further by giving more information??
                    Confused. You will be.
                    Anonymous -- Thursday July 14 2005, @09:56AM (#171433)
                    Why not a whole album? (Score:2, Insightful)
                    I wish he would go the whole hog and create the new album, or at least most of it, with new collaborators. A new direction would be great. Of course, he could use Boz and Alain's best tracks too - recently they seem to have come up with one corker per album each. That's not meant in a nasty way, but since the ever-wonderful Vauxhall, seems to be just about the ratio of their success. Quarry - 'Gang' for Alain, not sure about Boz, though 'Public Image' is good; Maladjusted - 'Trouble Loves Me' from Alain, 'Satan' (when performed live) from Boz, Southpaw - err, 'Nobody Loves Us' from Alain, none from Boz sadly.

                    Morrissey should use one track from each of them, the cream of their output, and collaborate elsewhere for the rest. This would instill a freshness his recent work has much lacked.
                    Anonymous -- Thursday July 14 2005, @09:58AM (#171434)
                    I'm just passing through here..... (Score:0)
                    Poppy.. Still have thoughts of your rustling leaves.
                    Donnie.. Mr Note is delighted with your progress.
                    Reality.. Nice to read of your happier times.
                    Melissa.. still Miss her.

                    'Corn Rigs and Barley Rigs and, Corn Rigs are bonny.. I'll not forget that happy night among the Rigs with Annie..'

                    God Bless You All.

                    Mr Note.
                    Anonymous -- Thursday July 14 2005, @10:10AM (#171449)
                    Hall & Oates (Score:0)
                    I´t´s Daryl Hall & John Oates.
                    Anonymous -- Thursday July 14 2005, @10:33AM (#171452)
                      Goddamit! (Score:0)
                      Pixies weren't around in 81!
                      Anonymous -- Thursday July 14 2005, @10:34AM (#171453)
                        Morrisseytour.... (Score:2, Insightful)
                        RE: "Apparently the band is nervous that if the info gets out Moz will change his mind or something"

                        You sure must have put them at ease since no-one else knows who they are...but we only know a collaboration will happen.

                        How about not reporting anything in the first place?

                        Now Morrissey knows that the band in question is nervous that he will pull out of the deal. Maybe he gave them his word, now it's all shot to hell because you're basically saying that the band thinks he is a sensitive flake. Nice going Morrisseytour! As the name suggests, it must be a slow time for you guys when Moz isn't on tour.

                        BTW, you're still trying to throw us off. I say this mystery band had a peak around 84-85, possibly came onto the mainstream scene around 80-81.

                        - Sherlock Rome

                        OUT

                        Jim Rome -- Thursday July 14 2005, @10:40AM (#171454)
                        (User #720 Info | http://www.jimrome.com/ )
                        Rome's Smack-tionary coming soon....yeah, this time I mean it.
                        PiL (a wrong guess?) (Score:1)
                        from: http://www.fodderstompf.com/fodnews.htm
                        Phil Strongman's PiL biography, 'John Lydon's "Metal Box": The Story of "Public Image Ltd' has been delayed until at least next year due to several re-writes.

                        SECOND EDITION (2/80)

                        PARIS AU PRINTEMP (11/80)

                        FLOWERS OF ROMANCE (4/81)
                        mattorefice -- Thursday July 14 2005, @10:41AM (#171455)
                        (User #2318 Info | http://www.napredokanglipe.itgo.com/ )
                        Leslie Towne Hope = Packy West
                          Suzy and the bendknees (Score:0)
                          or duran duran, no that was 83-84 and they are touring this year.
                          Damn, although technically it could be me, after all I kinda peaked those years. Susan, Julie, Jo-Ann. But how the hell did Morrisseytour know about the book?
                          Anonymous -- Thursday July 14 2005, @10:54AM (#171461)
                          Partnership of Intolerable Loathing (Score:1, Interesting)
                          As much as I'd love to see Morrissey and John Lydon attack an album together, I'd highly doubt it. Although, his last studio song released was called "Public Image" ... Hmmm .... Makes you think. Well, not really ... Part of me did hope his was a cover of PIL's first song "Public Image". I'd love to hear his version.

                          But, I beleive upon meeting Mr. Lydon, Morrissey said he was disappointed and felt as though he were speaking to his Grandmother.... " I could see that. John is rather self-righteous and preachy. Still I love'em Both .... Ah Well.

                          - Man of Vision
                          Anonymous -- Thursday July 14 2005, @10:54AM (#171462)
                          woah (Score:0)
                          it's the sisters of mercy. moz and eldritch - together at last.
                          Anonymous -- Thursday July 14 2005, @10:57AM (#171465)
                          • Re:woah by goinghome (Score:1) Thursday July 14 2005, @11:33AM
                            • Re:woah by Anonymous (Score:0) Thursday July 14 2005, @02:40PM
                              • Re:woah by Anonymous (Score:0) Thursday July 14 2005, @11:19PM
                              • woops = by mattorefice (Score:1) Friday July 15 2005, @03:04PM
                              • Re:woah by Anonymous (Score:1) Friday July 15 2005, @03:21AM
                                • 1st & last & strangeways by mattorefice (Score:1) Friday July 15 2005, @03:00PM
                                Sweet and Tender Hooligans (Score:3, Insightful)
                                People might be interested in this information about Cockney Rejects from their website: http://www.cockneyrejects.net/htm
                                Reference to Morrissey is in question 5.

                                On the book to be published August 2005: As lead singer of the Cockney Rejects, Jeff Turner was responsible for some of the most explosive gigs in musical history. Adopted by West Ham hooligan mob the ICF as their band of choice, Jeff and his band frequently had to deal with the kind of violence the ICF usually reserved for the terraces. Although he never condoned their actions, as a teenaged boxing champ, Turner often found himself in the thick of things. This is a story of what it’s like to go from the East End streets to being a teenage pop idol and back again. Gripping from the first page, Cockney Reject is his astonishing story told in his own words.
                                "My true story of bravado, triumph, tears, betrayal and despair. From having the world in your hands at 15, to staring down a barrel at 17 and going from the TV screen to the Labour Exchange in two years. Hold on to your hat, because I never held on to mine!"

                                Interview: 10 Questions with..... Mickey Geggus

                                1. What are you currently up to (studio/live/etc)?
                                Currently the band are playing festivals in Europe, as well as writing songs for the next album, which we aim to release in September. Along with this, our singer Jeff Turner will be releasing his autobiography (co-written with our old mate Garry Bushell) so we'll be undertaking a full UK tour in September to promote both.
                                2. Give us a brief history of the band.
                                We formed after the original punk explosion in 1979, and got a deal relatively quickly with a small indie label who released our debut 'Flares n Slippers' EP, which stayed in the indie charts for months, and got us headhunted by majors such as Warner Bros and EMI.
                                Being Queen fans, of course we fancied seeing our debut album on the same hallowed label, so we plumped for a 5 album deal with them. Life in the East end of London was never quite the same after that.....
                                3. Who was/is are the biggest influences on the band and on the music you play?
                                Way before punk, myself, Jeff and our then bass player Vince were dyed in the wool rock fans. I bought Led Zep 2 when I was 11, and was brought up on a steady diet of Nazareth, Queen, Purple, Aerosmith and early ZZ Top. When punk exploded, I still thought that apart from the vocals it was just great rock n roll, the same went for The Clash and Generation X. There were still great hooks and stuff there, not like the punk that came years later when most bands didnt know the difference between a hook line and a fishing line. Thats why the Rejects were very keen to explore our rock roots later in our career.
                                Bands that still influence us are the aforementioned, as well as such stalwarts as UFO, The Damned, and The Gonads (hic)
                                4. Do you see the interest in the Cockney Rejects' style of music growing in the UK and Europe at the moment? And worldwide?
                                What happened there was that in the US bands who had grown up being influenced by us such as Green Day and Rancid started flying the flag, thereby getting their own generation of fans to check us out. This had a sort of kick-back effect in Europe, which led to a widespread revival of interest in the Rejects, which is still growing to this day, thankfully!
                                5. What has been the highlight(s) and lowpoint(s) of your own career to date?
                                Oh, numerous of both. I suppose that the bad lows include the Birmingham riot of 1980, where many people got hurt, including me! I guess that was our Altmont, so to speak, but then Keith Richards didn't end up with half his face hanging off and a GBH charge hanging over him as I did that night! In gentler times, I was especially proud of playing the Royal Festival Hall as special guests to Morrissey at his Meltdown show last June. At least it made me mum proud!
                                6. What would you like to achieve ideally by the end of 2005?
                                Ideally I would like to have the new album and the book, all co-ordinated to run alongside our UK tour i

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                                goinghome -- Thursday July 14 2005, @11:27AM (#171475)
                                (User #12673 Info)
                                Collaboration guesses... (Score:1)
                                Hue & Cry...The Undertones...Kylie & Jason...who cares?...it's about Morrissey. The 'current' band have been exceptionally influential in Moz's output for longer than The Smiths were alive, so, maybe we should be mourning what maybe the potential loss of great musicians,without whom, there would be no Morrissey,no .solo etc.
                                It'll be interesting, but ultimately it won't be Moz as the lead singer in a band,it won't be Mr Marr for sure,and sadly it won't be the brilliant Mr Boorer.
                                KevinNorthants -- Thursday July 14 2005, @11:39AM (#171480)
                                (User #6488 Info)
                                The Buzzcocks (Score:2, Informative)
                                although they reached their peak before 1980/81, i remember when they first re-united in the late 1980s/early 1990s, that diggle confessed of sending tapes over to morrissey, and shelley being a big fan of his
                                frenchybutchic -- Thursday July 14 2005, @12:04PM (#171489)
                                (User #14444 Info)
                                The MorrisseyTour Twat Strikes Again (Score:0, Funny)
                                This Angela is a horrible person and is hated in the Morrissey camp. Always causing trouble, just like that awful thing with the KROQ interview on the last tour. She must love to cause problems and make people hate her.

                                This is another example of her trying to feel important. She should just stick to that awful website she runs and sell that creepy "merchandise" that only the saddest of the sad would ever buy.

                                Anonymous -- Thursday July 14 2005, @12:23PM (#171495)
                                Bad Manners (Score:0)
                                Your the one for me.......
                                Anonymous -- Thursday July 14 2005, @12:54PM (#171500)
                                  just (Score:0)
                                  FUCKIN tell us who it is dam it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
                                  Anonymous -- Thursday July 14 2005, @12:59PM (#171502)
                                  • Re:just by Nice Nice (Score:1) Thursday July 14 2005, @03:59PM
                                    • Re:just by Anonymous (Score:0) Friday July 15 2005, @09:20AM
                                    If it's not Oasis (Score:0)
                                    or Johnny Marr then he shouldn't bother.
                                    Anonymous -- Thursday July 14 2005, @01:42PM (#171512)
                                    Just a thought (Score:0)
                                    Having seen Richard Hawley live in London tonight
                                    (who is working with Nancy S and Jarvis C) I would guess Jarvis Cocker/Richard Hawley combo would suit
                                    Morrissey well.

                                    Just a thought.
                                    Nick

                                    Anonymous -- Thursday July 14 2005, @02:27PM (#171523)
                                    It will all end in tears, common people. (Score:0)
                                    what fun we have in store for us all!

                                    great news
                                    Anonymous -- Thursday July 14 2005, @02:31PM (#171525)
                                      Madness.... (Score:0)
                                      Would be my guess!
                                      Anonymous -- Thursday July 14 2005, @02:34PM (#171528)
                                        All I can say is... (Score:0)
                                        All I can say is they are human, breathe oxygen, eat food, drink water....

                                        Something about you giving 'hints' seems egotistical and arrogant. Not to mention very childish. I wonder what kind of odd person you are from the start, to be giving out rumoured information that should have stayed private.
                                        SVENLY -- Thursday July 14 2005, @04:00PM (#171542)
                                        (User #13428 Info)
                                          Well, well, well... (Score:1)
                                          I suppose I got my answer right there!

                                          You've just proven that you know nothing..thanks! :)
                                          girlafraid33 -- Thursday July 14 2005, @05:15PM (#171549)
                                          (User #14185 Info)
                                            Bad Brains (Score:1)
                                            P.M.A
                                            M.O.Z.
                                               
                                            Mr.Ann Coates -- Thursday July 14 2005, @05:33PM (#171552)
                                            (User #12622 Info)
                                              People here are so mean! (Score:2, Funny)
                                              Why is everyone here so awful to each other? Thought all Morrissey fans were cool and smart...
                                              Anonymous -- Thursday July 14 2005, @05:53PM (#171555)
                                              • Re: understood by SVENLY (Score:0) Thursday July 14 2005, @08:43PM
                                                • Re: Agreed by Anonymous (Score:0) Thursday July 14 2005, @09:01PM
                                                  • Re: Agreed by Anonymous (Score:0) Friday July 15 2005, @08:46AM
                                                Joy Division (Score:0)
                                                maybe it's a couple of the guys from Joy Division
                                                Anonymous -- Thursday July 14 2005, @06:24PM (#171557)
                                                HEY MozTour Girls.... (Score:0)
                                                ...you can kiss your future photo passes & your spot on the guest list goodbye with all this bullshit! your site is a joke.
                                                Anonymous -- Thursday July 14 2005, @08:50PM (#171565)
                                                  Right...time for a Poll...."Who do you think..etc (Score:0)
                                                  1. Cockney Rejects
                                                  2. The Stray Cats
                                                  3. PiL
                                                  4. Siouxsie and the Banshees
                                                  5. Madness
                                                  6. Bauhaus
                                                  7. The Jam
                                                  8. Sparks
                                                  9. Hall & Oates
                                                  10. Pretenders
                                                  11. Gang of Four
                                                  12. Soft Cell
                                                  13. Van Halen
                                                  14. OMD
                                                  15. Spandu ballet
                                                  16. The Durutti Column
                                                  17. The sisters of mercy
                                                  18. Hue & Cry
                                                  19. The Buzzcocks
                                                  20. China Crisis
                                                  21. The Undertones
                                                  22. Bad Manners
                                                  Anonymous -- Thursday July 14 2005, @08:55PM (#171567)
                                                  It's OBVIOUSLY Throbbing Gristle (Score:0)
                                                  They have (well, had) a friend in common with Derek Jarman, were at their peak in the early 80s, and played a show last year and were enamoured with 60s pop and icons. Plus, they've both done songs about the Moors Murders, I mean, how much more evidence can one need?

                                                  You know you've just been waiting to hear Moz's distorted voice screaming over a cacophony of noise, and now you'll get your chance - 2006 can't come soon enough.

                                                  Anonymous -- Thursday July 14 2005, @09:49PM (#171572)
                                                    Supposition (Score:1)
                                                    I was thinking about this last night, and then came here to have look. Cockney Rejects makes perfect sense. Up to this point I thought it might have been Chris Difford and Glenn Tilbrook.

                                                    Sk.
                                                    uncleskinny * -- Friday July 15 2005, @12:07AM (#171585)
                                                    (User #7815 Info)
                                                    And so I drank one, it became four, and when I fell on the floor, I drank more
                                                      Cockney rejects (Score:0)
                                                      Everything about them seem to be positively awfull!!! shall we expect anoter crap album.Also I thought the writing of the next album was already undergoing
                                                      Anonymous -- Friday July 15 2005, @01:43AM (#171593)
                                                        it is the Gang of Four, believe me.. (Score:0)
                                                        if not, ill never visit this site again... that's a promise...

                                                        GANG OF FOUR!!

                                                        MOz is going vintage punk rock... just like his childhood dream...

                                                        though for his age, it is no longer fit, well, it is moz!
                                                        ikyan98 -- Friday July 15 2005, @01:52AM (#171598)
                                                        (User #12540 Info)
                                                          I Think I'm Turning Japanese...... (Score:0)
                                                          ...It's The Vapors!

                                                          -The Treading Lemming

                                                          "Galleries for guns may seem like no exchange at all. I can give you armour if you'll keep me warm"
                                                          Anonymous -- Friday July 15 2005, @02:43AM (#171606)
                                                            Kraftwerk!!! (Score:0)
                                                            Kraftwerk!!!!
                                                            Anonymous -- Friday July 15 2005, @02:46AM (#171607)
                                                              Re:Kraftwerk!!! (Score:2, Interesting)
                                                              From Wikipedia:

                                                              "The band are notoriously reclusive, so much so that it is rumoured that their own record company do not have their phone numbers. Another notable example of eccentric behaviour was reported by Johnny Marr of The Smiths, who, in trying to contact the band for collaboration, was told that their studio telephone did not have a ringtone, as during recording the band did not like to hear any kind of dissonant noise. Instead, Marr was instructed to phone their studio at a certain time on the dot, and the phone was answered by Ralf Hutter at that moment, despite showing no sign of ringing.".

                                                              Anonymous -- Friday July 15 2005, @04:33AM (#171622)
                                                              [ Parent ]
                                                            Foster & Allen (Score:0)
                                                            I'll bet a pony that it's Foster & Allen, I've a friend who swears he overheard Moz on the Dart humming A Bunch of Thyme, they fit all the criteria.
                                                            Anonymous -- Friday July 15 2005, @03:17AM (#171610)
                                                              The Libertines (Score:0)
                                                              Played Meltdown too.
                                                              Anonymous -- Friday July 15 2005, @04:31AM (#171621)
                                                              The Reynolds Girls (Score:1)
                                                              Obviously.
                                                              Deathwish -- Friday July 15 2005, @05:30AM (#171628)
                                                              (User #11540 Info)
                                                              Think of Shakespeare, think of me.
                                                                Devo!! (Score:1)
                                                                that would be insane!!
                                                                what a crazy collaboration that would be

                                                                hehehe
                                                                garrrr
                                                                garrrr -- Friday July 15 2005, @06:23AM (#171633)
                                                                (User #14448 Info)
                                                                  New Dinamic duos (Score:1, Interesting)
                                                                  Morrissey/Seargent
                                                                  McCulloch/Marr
                                                                  Anonymous -- Friday July 15 2005, @07:10AM (#171637)
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