"I'm coming out of a tv show... and he's walking past me, this little short guy, and I'm walking past ...and I just said, 'Hey man, you've written great songs.' He said, 'What the fuck do you know?"

Short guy? Is she sure it was Morrissey? She must have had some mighty steep heels on.

I don't believe he would say that to her.

Tori claims: "Afterwards I walked past him in the corridor, and said, `Hey, great songs man'. And he turned to me and said: `What the **** do you know?'"

I don't believe this occurred, or it's been radically embellished. Not that I wouldn't love if he said this to her! But sounds like a load of B.S. to me. She was probably on as many drugs that day as she was the night of this concert. Get a grip, Tori.

I don't know if this story is true or not. Frankly I don't care. Funny though!

the whole audience shouted "he's a fuckhead"??

well, you can't argue with that level of collective telepathy and empathy can you

Tori in 12 inch KISS heels apparently.

If this is true, it is the greatest story.

All anyone needs to know is that she went on to play an Oasis cover. Oasis is a band that no one should ever cover, unless you are pissed as hell on pints in some shite pub doing karaoke....

If you click on Belligerent Ghoul's link you also learn this:

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The "legendary tune" she had meant was Oasis's Don't Look Back In Anger, but it seems Tori is still angry , as she personalised the lyrics with: "You ain't ever gonna tear my heart out, Morrissey."
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He just went up 20 points with me !

Ya Punk Rock

She must have mixed him up with someone else. Morrissey has got to be at least 6 ft tall. Tori is only 5'2. There is no way that she would be able to call him short even if she was wearing heels. I think she is confused. And maybe a little crazy.

Tori Amos is a good laugh, really, despite having albums full of tunes that could make the cheeriest soul slash their wrists. I doubt this is true but - really - if it is I think its hilarious. You always hear of and expect Morrissey to be very polite and reserved - at least in person - so to imagine him snidely telling someone to fuck off is surprising and highly amusing.

But I just love a good bit of bitching in the music world....

Jilted John

This item so saddens me because I love them both. I guess one key difference between their work is that Tori's lyrics are vividly abstract whereas Morrissey is vividly direct. I'm surprised though that he doesn't appreciate her creativity. Maybe he wishes that I could play the piano/write chord sequences as beautiful as her. Maybe he was just in a bad mood when he saw her and Tori, the sensitive artist that she is, didn't take kindly to his words. I imagine that if you fall head over heels in love with the Smiths it is very difficult to hear your music degraded by the very soul of the band that you love. That's our "I Am Two People" Morrissey though, right?! The two artists have alot in common though -- I'm surprised he doesn't see that.

maybe she was confused with Paul Morrissey (film maker). A comment like hers (hey you've written great songs) to a film maker would naturally get the ol' what-the-fuck-do-you-know reply......

so really what the fuck does she know? either way its a great question......

She must either be joking, or have been speaking to another member of The Smiths in that corridor.
Especially since it's known that he doesn't swear much, Johnny Marr said that they were all frightened to swear infront of him & whatnot.

And 'Small dick mother fucker'? Has she not seen this man's hands?!
I hope it's a complete joke & a lie anyway, because i quite like Tori's music, Blood Roses would be in there if i ever wrote a list of my favourite songs, but still, calling him names in his own City is just a bit below the belt.

pagan amy grant

Tori Amos couldn't write a good song to save her life. She believed the encouraging words her immediate friends and family told her about her songwriting career, and the listening public is the one suffering for it. She's terrible.

I said that? Fuck off! Like you lot would know!

S P Morrissey

I don't know why so many of you just won't accept that Morrissey isn't very tall. Maybe he seems taller because you always have to look UP to him when he's on stage. But I've met him twice. The first time, I was surprised at how short he was. In fact, it was one of the things that struck me most about him. I told my friend who was there, "I can't believe how short he is. I wasn't expecting that." I'm about 5'5 and was wearing flat shoes that night. He's only about 1 to 2 inches taller than I am. I have a picture of me standing next to him. In fact, I'm looking at it right now. And he's not tall!

Some of you might say that you've met him and he was 6 feet tall when you saw him. Either you've created a false memory of his height or he's put lifts in his shoes. He's SHORT! Get over it already!

That's what she gets for being a 3rd rate Kate Bush impersonator.

Oh my Lord.. nature really did play a trick on him!

walking away stunned and then later in her dressing room running through that last paragraph in her head and thinking, 'thats what ishouldve said!' is very amusing.

poor girl- even if you dont like her music, that was pretty harsh. im sure its embellished a bit [the swearing seems unliklely and was probably juste inserted via her pissed off mood when telling the story], but its not something she would completely make up either. im sure there some truth to it.

iguess Morrissey is past the patience of "Girl Least Likely To", or at least cannot extend the same courtesy to strangers.

That is disgusting.

of Mini Moz !

If a pastor's daughter doesn't know when a "priest" writes good songs,... who will?

Of course, at this point, we could decide he was trying to be humorous. Or maybe it was PMT? Er.

Anyway don't worry too much about it Steve! Nance still loves ya!
Yayyyy!

Small dick motherfucker? Oh, my.

Please Please Please People, I really don't want to read about Tori Amos on this website!

fan reviews on Tori's performance and her crude remarks on Morrissey, here is the link:

http://thedent.com/more.php?id=2663_0_1_0_M

unofficial and potentially completely unreliable conclusion to the debate over the actual height of Morrissey, here's the link:

http://www.celebheights.com/s/-Morrissey-746.html

Well, I personally don't believe he said that. Maybe he gave her a look that seemed to say that... but didn't actually use those words. Considering Tori (whom I actually like) lives in her own little world, I think that's more possible. Besides, we all know that Moz says things behind other artists backs, not to their face. :D

Morrissey's comment was pretty funny. I'm not sure if I like Tori Amos but she certainly is not as witty as Esteban

I didn't hunt around in here to see if this had already been posted, but I believe this is the show in question. If so, Tori holds one heck of a grudge.
http://www.morrissey-solo.com/articles/02/09/23/15 24205.shtml

How come in every photo I've seen of him there's never been anyone taller than him? carefully engineered to create an optical illusion? and whenever I've seen him live he's been the tallest person on stage. Keep taking the mind distorting drugs.

You have no charisma, no talent, and apparently you are a envious little thing. Get over yourself. You apparently think that you're all that and a bag of chips. Moz could slay you alive with a single remark.

I saw tori 7 or 8 yrs ago
She asked ~ any requests....
Of course i shouted smiths !
She,without blinking broke into
hang the D J hang the d j hang the d j
the place went wild !!

buzz off!

Go and die.

Your joke did.

Dont Look Back In Anger? I wanna hear her take on that tune anyone got a link to it?

It's funny that Morrissey fans would support something so immature. I mean, I know that his fanbase is designed predominantly for suscpended aodlescents, but this is scraping the barrel.

It's also funny that so many take their dislike for someone elses music so seriously. I mean, to the point of ignoring all sensible social conventions.

This is all reminiscent of junior high.

Morrissey is becoming less and less interesting as the years go by.

and Tories

whatever.

Morrissey is not short and she must have been on crack that day. She does not have a very good memory does she? Dragged to one of her shows years ago and was bored to tears. All she does is 'play piano'. 'The world is full of crashing bores'. If he did say this he must of read something that she said about him that was nasty. That is the only way he would have been rude to her, and that is a long shot. Tori clear that mind from all the drugs and your silly recovering Christian t-shirts and come back to the Lord. "Get off the cross somebody needs the wood!"

If Morrissey expresses his opinion about Toris song to her in private he does not offend her, just telling her what he thinks. Now it's Tori herself who talks about it in the public eye. Therefore - spank yourself little darling...

Maybe she should listen to Public image?

this stuff is getting weird ... didn't even think Tori Amos was still around and don't really care about the size of Morrissey's dick, it was good enough for me the last time we met. just looking at a pic of the Smiths, if Morrissey is short then Andy Rourke must be the same height as Kylie.

about his size? she sounds like an egotistical loose cannon. you need to put a sock in it, ghetto-girl! this was an irrelevant thing to say:

"What the fuck do I know, motherfucker, who are you trying to sell records to in america you small-dick motherfucker?"

Over the years the impression has grown stronger on me that the compassion Morrissey expressed whilst in The Smiths is disappearing from his consciousness and becoming nothing but a perfunctory and hypocritical act. There seems to be no self questioning. I find it harder and harder to believe that he is indeed 'hated for loving'. I think it is far more likely - especially judging by the way that people on this website second any of his vicious comments like a pack of rabid dogs - that he is loved for hating.

Let's face it, Morrissey's taste in music is terrible. Why? Because it is too self-righteously tasteful. Morrissey sees himself as standing at the apex of a pyramid of taste. The closer something is to him the more tasteful it is. Anyone who makes music that is autonomous - like Tori Amos - is therefore beyond the pale. She is different to him, and that is not to be tolerated.

I remember loving Morrissey for lyrics like these:

"It's so easy to laugh, it's so easy to hate/ It takes guts to be gentle and kind."

If that's so, Morrissey is now utterly gutless. When was the last time he showed the world at large anything other than hatred?

I still like the man's music, but I think it's a bad idea to idolise him. His talent lies in making music in which we - the listeners - can find ourselves.

who greets someone with' hey, man ' deserves everything they get.

p.s Kate Bush is the real deal .

is everyone making such a big deal about her seemingly mistaken recollection of Morrissey's height? people always advantageously remember someone theyve had a bad experience with or hav ill feelings towards as being shorter and uglier than they actually are so as to make themselves feel better about the situation [unless theyre remembering an ex-lover, in which case people remember them as being more beautiful than they ever were to make themselves feel worse].

If Morrissey said it, he was quite right, She wouldn't know a good tune if it smacked her in the face, honestly have you heard her latest album its bloody awful.

Tori's compliment 'Hey man, you've written great songs' looks somewhat patronising as if she gave him an approval to be a songwriter.He doesn't need the pat on the back like some kind of dog.If she had been tactful and respectful, she would have said something entirely different.For example- "love your music" simple as that.What Did she expect? that he would say "thank you Tori, i didn't know i write good songs, i thought they were crap all along" ?

Her brutal(but funny)reply during the performance only proves her childish and prima donna nature, and that Morrissey was right: what the fuck does she know?

She obviously didn't understand what he meant by that, if indeed that is what he said.

See, Morrissey likes to make fun of himself, and when he said "like you'd know" he probably meant that she never listens to his music. It's the old poor-me-because-the-world-won't-listen-and-nobody- cares thing that has made Morrissey a millionaire. He wasn't necessarily saying that she wouldn't know what good music is, but was -- more likely -- simply saying that he knows she doesn't listen to him. Period.

Really, it's probably that simple people.

Oh, just because she can't get his humour, doesn't mean that we can't!

Viva le Amiga.

Md

Since when does Morrissey use swear words? (apart from The Headmaster Ritual)