PJ Harvey - pro hunting
posted by davidt on Tuesday December 07 2004, @09:00AM

An anonymous person writes:

Just been reading Sky Active & there was an article which says a number of celebrities are to appear in a pro hunting tv programme in January. One of the names mentioned is PJ Harvey. I can't believe Morrissey would allow her to support him if he knew she was in favour of fox hunting.

 
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    Will she wear a fox fur? (Score:0, Troll)
    I find this hard to believe. Her support slot appears untenable to me now, but itís not my call. Should music stand alone or are the artistís views intrinsic to the overall package they deliver?

    Further research is needed, but if it is true it will spoil my enjoyment of her opening for Morrissey (if it is correct). I will decide whether to stay in the pub or go and watch and hurl some abuse her way. Legitimate protest of course!

    'Broken' wont be able to resist this one, so if he posts, solidarity brothers and sisters, ignore the Twat!
    Meatfreecotter -- Tuesday December 07 2004, @09:20AM (#141413)
    (User #10088 Info)
    she may well be pro-hunting... (Score:0)
    but is she pro-Morrissey?
    John
    Anonymous -- Tuesday December 07 2004, @09:37AM (#141423)
    i have to admit i'm disappointed too (Score:1)
    not that i'm a heiffer-petting vegetarian; but pj a hunter? seems so strange...mebbe it's just publicity fluke aimed at colliding squarely with morrissey's meatless world(?)
    thirsty fists <thirsty_fists@yahoo.com> -- Tuesday December 07 2004, @09:46AM (#141424)
    (User #149 Info)
    "world's ugliest boy"
      she's from the countryside... (Score:0)
      they're all pro-hunting out there!
      J
      Anonymous -- Tuesday December 07 2004, @10:02AM (#141429)
      Maybe (Score:0)
      Morrissey thinks people should be allowed their own opinions.

      Damian Dempsey eats meat doesn't he?
      Anonymous -- Tuesday December 07 2004, @10:10AM (#141433)
      • Re:Maybe by Anonymous (Score:0) Tuesday December 07 2004, @02:21PM
        Doubtful (Score:1, Informative)
        I've read another report that merely said that she has been approached by the programme-makers (who'll be wanting to generate as much advance publicity for the show as possible by mentioning loads of names that probably won't even be on it.).

        From what I know, Polly (who was brought up in the countryside) made a pro-fox-hunting comment very early on in her career (early 90s). However, when asked in more recent interviews, she has said something along the lines that she can see the argument from both sides and that she's not going to either support or oppose the ban.

        She has already supported Morrissey at some shows abroad so maybe they have spoken about the subject??
        Anonymous -- Tuesday December 07 2004, @11:20AM (#141449)
          Don't forget Patti (Score:0)
          Patti Smith was a lover of the old Fur coat, yet old Mozzer still finds it okay to be a fan and sing her songs.

          Not a million miles away from each other in many ways Polly and Patti!

          If you hold strong opinions about it then be vocal about it at the gigs. I feel a bit let down by Polly Harvey, but she has her right to express her opinion (even if they are morally bankrupt).

          I'm glad to say that I did my bit to get the hunting ban on the statute book (letters to Blair and my own MP). So if Polly et al want to complain about us city folk dictating to the country folk, let them.

          For once we can be smug in victory.
          Anonymous -- Tuesday December 07 2004, @11:31AM (#141451)
            fundamentalism (Score:0)
            when you don't respect other opinions or other behaviours, you're ...

            what's your problem, we are all individuals with different tastes
            Anonymous -- Tuesday December 07 2004, @01:29PM (#141471)
              Meat IS murder (Score:0)
              are forgetting that our man wears leather shoes?
              Anonymous -- Tuesday December 07 2004, @01:43PM (#141473)
              biz ness is biz ness (Score:0)
              remember Moz has been suffering a little with attendance lately...we know he foregoes much of the principles he champions in song when the buck is concerned...
              Anonymous -- Tuesday December 07 2004, @02:10PM (#141483)
              • Do shut up... by Anonymous (Score:0) Wednesday December 08 2004, @09:25AM
                who gives a monkeys? (Score:0)
                wouldn't you rather have pj as a support than whichever donkey is on first at brighton and earls court?
                i know i'd like to see her.

                stroudgreen
                Anonymous -- Tuesday December 07 2004, @02:27PM (#141490)
                She may be out of here faster than Siouxie.... (Score:1)
                RE: "I can't believe Morrissey would allow her to support him if he knew she was in favour of fox hunting."

                He does now.
                Jim Rome -- Tuesday December 07 2004, @10:48PM (#141526)
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                Rome's Smack-tionary coming soon....yeah, this time I mean it.
                This is old news. (Score:1)
                Heaven forbid someone should be entitled to an opinion.

                Stop being so bloody hysterical, fox hunting is banned now anyway.

                She is a wonderful musician, let her have her opinions and enjoy her music.

                If you are anti-hunt then you won, she lost - leave it at that. Unless it is the moaning you really enjoyed all along.
                I am human -- Wednesday December 08 2004, @12:57AM (#141535)
                (User #3100 Info)
                ...and I need to be loved.
                Doc Martins? (Score:1)
                Morrissey has on occasion vacillated (or if you prefer, oscillated wildly) on the whole veggie thing. It wasn't so long ago that he turned down some or other veggie brigade for that same reason. I wouldn't be surprised or offended if he succumbed to the occasional sausage.

                Reading the posts, I find it much more interesting that a man who must by now be worth several million pounds still wears Doc Martins (of which I'm a fan).

                Comments?
                Kiddo -- Wednesday December 08 2004, @01:51AM (#141544)
                (User #11417 Info)
                • Re:Doc Martins? by jerrylovesukindie (Score:1) Thursday December 09 2004, @08:18PM
                  PJ Harvey= Myra Hindley???!?! (Score:0)
                  If any "internetters" ruin PJ Harvey's support slot I'll pro-hunt them.
                  Seriously I'm looking forward to seeing her and in my opinion this should never have been posted because:
                  a) you haven't seen the programme
                  b) you don't know what shes going to say in the programme
                  and
                  c) whatever happened to the presumption of innocence until proven guilty?
                  I've just got images of all the hardcore down the front hurling insults at her for something that they hardly know about.
                  I ws in two minds about going to another Mozzer gig this year but the PJ Harvey support slot won me over.

                  BLUEBIRDS
                  Anonymous -- Wednesday December 08 2004, @02:47AM (#141550)
                  Fox die sad PJ bad (Score:0)
                  I saw a fox one time. It had been run over by a car. Sad...

                  Me like cornflakes!
                  Anonymous -- Wednesday December 08 2004, @07:11AM (#141605)
                    PJ Harvey not fit to lace Moz's boots!! (Score:1)
                    Gutted PJ Harvey is supporting Moz. I am going to Brighton and Earls Court gigs, the only bonus of her playing, is that it allows us an extra hour in the bar. Gene are playing a gig in London the on the 16th December, couldn't have they been asked to support Moz on 17th and 18th, or what about The Ordinary Boy's or British Sea Power. As Moz once said 'there is always a fly in the ointment".
                    borntohang1968 -- Wednesday December 08 2004, @07:56AM (#141607)
                    (User #13232 Info)
                    older and wiser never applies to me
                    Gutted (Score:1)
                    Well, having been a PJ Harvey fan since the release of 'Dress' years ago, I have to say I'm absolutely horrified to learn that she's pro-hunting. It really has coloured the way I see her, I used to believe that not only did she produce beautiful music but she was also a beautiful person. I just can't believe that now. For any of you doubting that she is pro-hunting, as I optimistically was, I suggest you do a search "PJ Harvey pro-hunting" & it will fully answer your doubts. I'll still adore & love her music but this really does affect my love for her as a person. Another person I loved & who I am now horrified to learn is pro-hunting is Stephen Fry...I'm absolutely gutted about finding this out about two people I adored. Thank God for Morrissey & Fab Macca...
                    NIcky's Cousin -- Wednesday December 08 2004, @08:09AM (#141609)
                    (User #7181 Info)
                    ...first day with the jar...
                    • Re:Gutted by Anonymous (Score:0) Wednesday December 08 2004, @12:39PM
                      • Re:Gutted by Anonymous (Score:0) Thursday December 09 2004, @03:16AM
                        • Re:Gutted by Did a bad thing (Score:1) Thursday December 09 2004, @04:17AM
                        We want Gene! (Score:1)
                        Well I do anyway. Come on Mozz, you got them for Meltdown, they've JUST announced they're splitting. Let them have a PROPER send off. A Mozz - Rozz duet perhaps?! HEAVEN!!
                        GLEGS -- Wednesday December 08 2004, @12:02PM (#141653)
                        (User #7174 Info)
                        Can't find the time to live/I won't waste in the wrong arms x
                        • Re:We want Gene! by borntohang1968 (Score:1) Wednesday December 08 2004, @02:08PM
                          I heard she likes margarine (Score:0)
                          but I prefer butter.

                          What should I, Morrissey? OH, WHAT SHOULD I DO???
                          Anonymous -- Wednesday December 08 2004, @12:41PM (#141664)
                          Ah finally! (Score:1)
                          Yeah for today! My whole life I have been strugglin' with the PJ Harvey dillema. You know the one... Is she a talented artistic dark diva that I somehow just do not get or is she just a farce, a plastic record store indie girl trying to hard to be unique. Her music really is subpar and I had given her an ounce of credibility just based on the fact that she appears to be different than the status quo. Now I see her for what she really is. An idiot and a cruelty promoter. May the next simpleton who sets out on a fox hunt come across a low hanging branch at a very fast pace.
                          MOZ IS GOD -- Wednesday December 08 2004, @04:04PM (#141709)
                          (User #3249 Info | http://www.myspace.com/coldwarspies )
                          • Re:Ah finally! by Anonymous (Score:0) Wednesday December 08 2004, @04:15PM
                            • Re:Ah finally! by MOZ IS GOD (Score:1) Wednesday December 08 2004, @08:19PM
                              • Re:Ah finally! by Anonymous (Score:0) Wednesday December 08 2004, @11:52PM
                                • Re:Ah finally! by Anonymous (Score:0) Thursday December 09 2004, @03:16AM
                                  • Re:Ah finally! by MOZ IS GOD (Score:1) Thursday December 09 2004, @07:52PM
                                  • Re:Ah finally! by Anonymous (Score:0) Thursday December 09 2004, @07:02AM
                                  • Re:Ah finally! by MOZ IS GOD (Score:1) Wednesday December 08 2004, @08:23PM
                                  Perhaps itís Morrissey thatís changed his mind. (Score:0)
                                  Like him I used to be strongly against fox hunting but, listening to the debate, Iíve realised that its abolition is likely to lead to an overall increase in cruelty to our friend vulpes vulpes. Iím sure Morrissey will have been listening the arguments and may have reached a similar conclusion. Inviting PJ could be a signal to his fans of the new opinions that they are now expected to hold.

                                  Doris
                                  Anonymous -- Wednesday December 08 2004, @04:27PM (#141718)
                                  Judgment (Score:0)
                                  Its intresting you are basically saying, do not associate with those who sin against animals. Your placing judgment on them finding them unsuitable to habbitate with.
                                  I wonder if you share the same opinion when it comes to christianity.
                                  Do not associate yourself with sinners...meaning....dont be dick...talk to whoever...but don't hang out and do what they do.
                                  but I bet you don't like that.
                                  Mozkateer -- Wednesday December 08 2004, @05:23PM (#141724)
                                  (User #1871 Info | http://www.myspace.com/robertsaenz )
                                  • Re:Judgment by MOZ IS GOD (Score:1) Wednesday December 08 2004, @08:33PM
                                    • Re:Judgment by Anonymous (Score:0) Wednesday December 08 2004, @11:59PM
                                      • Re:Judgment by Anonymous (Score:0) Thursday December 09 2004, @03:20AM
                                        • Re:Judgment by Meatfreecotter (Score:1) Thursday December 09 2004, @04:15AM
                                          • Re:Judgment by Anonymous (Score:0) Thursday December 09 2004, @06:50AM
                                            • Re:Judgment by NIcky's Cousin (Score:1) Thursday December 09 2004, @07:02AM
                                              • Re:Judgment by Meatfreecotter (Score:1) Thursday December 09 2004, @07:28AM
                                        Fox hunting is a way of life... (Score:1)
                                        It joins communities together. How many foxes die per year as a result of hunting? (not many) How many chickens die per year as a result of Walmart driving farmers costs down so much they are cruely bred? how many of you buy chickens from the supermarket? The whole fox hunting debate is a complete joke, an agenda set by those who despise the midder/upper classes and no doubt wolf down their unthinking peasant-like £3.99 chickens from Walmart every sunday. Chicken eating supermarket scum.
                                        Quentin <cometsense2003@yahoo.com> -- Wednesday December 08 2004, @05:59PM (#141726)
                                        (User #12258 Info)
                                        Why would Morrissey like PJ Harvey? (Score:0)
                                        Maybe he can relate to being the victim of a witch-hunt by people who believe everything they read in the media.

                                        This'll probably bring them closer together...
                                        Anonymous -- Thursday December 09 2004, @12:51AM (#141740)
                                        Fox Fun (Score:0)
                                        Those who wish to boycott the gig do so and tell everyone what fun it was. Those who wish to protest please do so outside the venue, preferably with a pen and paper. PJ Harvey has never been 'pro' fox hunting. She has spoken several times, when quizzed by interviewers (nme 1998), and then has answered honestly. She has mentioned how a fox got into their chicken hutch and killed them all. She said she had an urge to throtle the fox. Wouldn't you? And that is what they will do now anyway, so she's cleared by my jury on that count :) They are seen as pests. Would you want one in your backgarden? She comes from a small farming community. The lives of people around her will change because of this governmental legislation. One that encroaches on their culture, society..and earnings..and is in the eyes of many just to appease activists. (no luck with the war..hmm, ah, animal rights, thanks Tony!). There has been no comment from her this year, as far as i'm aware on hunting. I doubt she will be on tis programme, if she does then so be it. The woman is a gentle, peaceful artist. If you are going t protest why don't you do it somewhere else. Do you really feel this strongly about it that you have to (possibly) terrorise somebody who is there to entertain you, certainly ruin others enjoyment of a (very expensive) concert?

                                        PJ's work is very much in the same vein as Morrissey's. Please, grow up, shut up and enjoy the show.
                                        Anonymous -- Thursday December 09 2004, @06:09PM (#141952)
                                        • Re:Fox Fun by Anonymous (Score:0) Friday December 10 2004, @01:33AM
                                          • Re:Fox Fun by Anonymous (Score:0) Saturday December 11 2004, @01:41PM
                                          • Re:Fox Fun by NIcky's Cousin (Score:1) Friday December 10 2004, @02:05AM
                                            • Re:Fox Fun by Anonymous (Score:0) Friday December 10 2004, @02:30AM
                                              • Re:Fox Fun by Anonymous (Score:0) Friday December 10 2004, @02:40AM
                                                • Re:Fox Fun by Anonymous (Score:0) Sunday December 12 2004, @03:07AM
                                            A Question for the Protesters (Score:0)
                                            For those who are thinking of disrupting Polly's set, can I ask you if (providing you've not been ejected from the venue by then) you plan to do the same for Morrissey - an artist who, according to you, has invited a pro-fox-hunting 'sick bitch' to support him on tour? - Or do your 'morals' only apply when it's an artist whose music you didn't want to listen to anyway?
                                            Anonymous -- Sunday December 12 2004, @03:13AM (#142304)
                                              do what Morrisey says! (Score:0)
                                              hi evereyone,

                                              i am personaly against fox hunting but if morrisey says he is now in favour of it i think his fans should go out and start hunting now. after all, they have the same taste and opinions on most things, so this is a new opinion for them to have. they should be grateful that Morrisey recomends them what to think. at least it will make them diffrent from other pepole!

                                              best wishes josh.
                                              Josh Philips -- Monday December 13 2004, @08:19AM (#142473)
                                              (User #11955 Info)


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