Jerry Finn as producer? He might as well ask Quincy Jones.

Either way it's gonna sound horrible.

This anonymous source must be having a big laugh at our expense. And if not - I am starting to worry.

Anonymous? Who is this person? I don't believe it till I see it.

Yeah, this sounds reliable.

...moz once joked on stage that "we are not blink 182"

must be him who posted this

My stomach dropped when I read this. Morrissey going the way of Alterna-Pop-Grunge-garbage? Then I remembered not to place much in the way of anonymous tipsters on this board. (When will we ever learn!?!)

  But then I thought, would it be so bad if Morrissey got a few bona-fide hits from working with someone responsible for today's sound? But then I remembered Liz Phair's new album didn't set the world on fire (and didn't "The Matrix" produce her?)

You people are so narrow-minded. It doesn't matter who produces this album. Morrissey has enough sense to find a good producer. I'll be happy when the new songs are released, regardless.

He should just ask Robert Smith to produce his album. At least he'd get a better outcome.

... comes the following relevations:

Morrissey is working with Jay-Z and Master P on several tracks (holla!).

The Mormon Tabernacle Choir will provide back up vocals.

Tommy Lee on drums (Moz & Pammy Lee are fellow vegetarian activists).

For the tour, the Britney Spears dancers are currently rehearsing new steps with Morrissey.

Morrissey will head line the next Oz Fest.

If you follow the link provided with the post, it might do some good to note that he's worked with Bad Religion in the past. Now, I don't know about you, but I wouldn't equate Bad Religion and Blink 182. It sounds as if this fella's had diverse career. Thinking that Morrissey's gone the way of power pop is laughable--but, Morrissey is a pop artist and it make sense for him to be after someone who's got strong musical roots as well as a connection to the mainstream. In the end though, this is just a rumor.

baggy jeans with a baseball cap turned around backwards

Hey, Jerry Finn produced Smoking Popes 'Destination Failure' which is an amazing album! He also was assistant engineer for Alvin & The Chipmunks so you know this next Moz cd is gonna rock!!!

I bet these 'anonymous' sources laugh out loud when they read all the knee 'jerk' replies to their stories, winding up the Morrissey fans could be a sport, maybe it is.....and there off again, arms flailing.
Morrissey works with people he admires and respects, the producer of Blink 182 wouldn't feature there, god no. I just hope he doesn't 'fax' old Steve lilly'pad'white again, Vauxhall was great but....after that, well, talk about stifling the music. I just hope John Cale or Nigel Godrich get a postcard or fax very soon, maybe they already have.

Sleep well now xxxxxx

I don't know much about producers or producing, but is this fella any *worse* than Moby?

If you will recall, Moby was also *rumoured* to be the next producer. Moby is a vegetarian too.

I am not crazy about Moby at all. In fact, I really don't care for him-

but here is the kicker, Morrissey's album will be *great* no matter who produces it!

What do producers do anyway? I am very musical, but I have no idea what goes on during this process whatsoever.

Truly,
Ken

They are currently completing a new album, which I believe Finn is producing. So maybe when this is finished, he'll start Morrissey's album. Though I can't believe Jerry Finn didn't already have lots artists on the waiting list. Could be? Who knows?

...no, no, no, no, no.

These bands are horrible. They shouldn't even exist. I know the producer is not to blame for that, but I don't want "The first of the gang to die" to sound (even just a little) like "All the small things". Would you? I hope this is just a rumour.

I love all these bands very much and I really hope "The" producer will produce the next Morrissey album!!

I bet everyone said HE would be a bad producer, the album would be too glam etc.. and what a great album Your Arsenal is. As it is Boz and Alain play electric guitars, Jerry Finn produces bands that use electric guitars, how different is it gonna sound? PS He's also a fine engineer, he'll give it that commercial gloss that might make Moz a star again.. but I suppose some of you wouldn't be happy with THAT either.

Cant name the subject as ????? because of Lameness filter encountered... give me a break. About the producer I have no words for that altough I do not believe.

I have only heard of two of the four bands mentioned and,I must say,the two involved are absolutely beneath contempt.

since when do ever ever see moz at a green day or blink 182 show? i don't believe this true. an anonymous source is just as good as someone saying that morrissey and mike joyce have buried the hatchett.

He actually had an interesting career. Besides the above mentioned bands (whatever you may think of them), he's also worked on:

The Smoking Popes
Taj Mahal
Madness
The Alkaline Trio (ex Smoking Popes)
Matthew Sweet
that dog (Petra and Rachel Haden)

So your worst nightmares probably won't come true even if this rumor turns out to be a fact. Morrissey has obviously used Madness producers before, even as song writers. And besides bringing the Smoking Popes on tour, he also cited their "Born To Quit" LP as one of the best albums of the last 15 years in a Q Magazine profile (the other was Cornershop's "When I Was Born for the 7th Time").

And yes, the "Destination Failure" LP from the Smoking Popes sounded fantastic, and truthfully, "punker" than "Born to Quit". But the way some people have complained about the muted sounding "Malajusted" for the last six years you should be jumping for joy now.

... interesting to read postings on The Madness connection. I am alone (am I?) in thinking that many of Clanger and Winstanley's chord melodies are very 'similar' to those Madness songs.

Morrissey WILL be releasing some great songs. 'Could You Please' and so on... There WILL be great songs in addition to FIRST OF THE GANG, MEXICO, I LIKE YOU...

Whichever UK or US producer is used, the tapes can also be sent to other producers and then remixed, so, it WILL be interesting to see what happens next.. as they say in Question of Sport. Speaking of remixers..does anyone know what happened to FLOOD ?

Surely, at least half of the fun is now sitting and waiting for these wonderful new songs to be recorded and then released later in the year !!

FACx

Morrissey will release a great album no matter who produces it.Even though I don`t like bands like sum 41 or blink whatever I have faith that Morrissey will create an excellent album.

I don't know what you people are complaining about. I think it would be awesome if Morrissey used Jerry Finn as a producer!! Anything to get him away from the soft emotionless music that he has been putting out! This guy could be the spark that might give us another wicked high energy song like "Miserable Lie" instead of some 'every song sounds the same' Rock-a-billy garbage

Morrissey's pulling the strings after all.

How typical for you all to post post post away, judging Jerry Finn and his abilities when you don't even know him.

I don't know him either. And I don't know if this rumor is true. But looking at his credits it's obvious he's got lots of talent. Rancid's "...And Out Come the Wolves" is a fantastic record. So is Smoking Popes' "Desination Failure." He's worked with Jawbreaker, Green Day, The Living End, Blink 182.
Those are pretty good bands IMO. (I don't know why Blink 182 is so hated....)

Anyway, yeah, some of are just talking out of your buttholes, as usual.

Here's a clue: You can't judge an album until you can, like, LISTEN to it....

But ah, well I did a quick Googling of this Finn guy and there's an interview with a band about working with him. They say he is in his own time zone and likes to show up 5 hours late, and then insists on watching Family Matters before getting to work. Hmm. Heh.

what about Godrich, or Lillywhite again?or even Ken Thomas......anyone to steer the boys away from the pub rock guitars i hope.

Whether you like blink 182 or green day has nothing to do with whether those albums are well produced. It has something to do with their great success. It doesn't mean Mr. Finn is going to say "Right, Morrissey, I want this album to go in an American punk-pop direction". I think it's an interesting choice...and the revived madness connection is good enough for you rabid dogs, isn't it??

arguably the best producer SPM ever had....

Have any of you guys or gals actually thought of the possibility that Sanctuary chose the producer on behalf of Mozza. I don't know what sort of contract he has, but the record co. usually have a pretty big say in these matters.

Still, I think an unlikely combination will bring better results than a predictable combination.

Let's see....

well as this isnt news but a rumour...one big phew!!!
finns productions so far - suck!!!!
especially 'bionk 192' or wotever they are called.

Afrika Bambaata...
:Þ

I welcome this news, ive always felt the bands "sound" was stuck in a rut on the last few albums anyway; boring guitar arrangements and sounds. if this nu-metal guy brings a bit more urgency and originality to the backing and production then the album will be much better for it. far better indeed, than some of the plodding rockabilly i was growing tired of i think the last album (s) suffered not just because moz had lost his way a little lyrically, but because of the pedestrian uninspired production. there's some great songs this time, and a fresh production of these will really help i feel.

What a great title for a Morrissey song....
"I Reply Beneath Your Current Threshold". Can you imagine the lyrics to that? And wouldn't we all hate him for it. Laughing at us. As usual.

Think about this before ya start yer yappin'!

Look what this guy has done to AFI and Green Day : he made sure that female teenage fans will go nuts for them!

So ...he's gonna make sure that girls ages 13-18 will go bananas for Moz! (although it is not a current problem here in sunny LA...)!

I remember seeing AFI a few years ago. Kids were kicking and biting each other, everyone was happy...

Well, although I haven't seen them live very recently, a pal o' mine did and told me girls were fainting at the sight of the band, a'la The Beatles.

So replace 'AFI' and 'Beatles' with 'Moz'...

Beatlemania? More Like Mozzamania!

Yes, Mr. Finn, you do what you must to Mr. Morrissey. But remember Jer...be gentle.

We care about him too...

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I am aware that many fellow Morrissey fans are now outraged by what I stated above. Well, if you have a problem with my [witty, in-your-face] attitude, then come down to Duarte and yell "Where's dat rat fink Ivan?!"

Then we can all go and have ice cream!

the way you people go on, you'd think Jerry Finn was going to write the music for Morrissey.

His track record might not be interesting but anybody else than Steve Lillywhite is a refreshing step forward in my books. Lillywhite isn't bad but sonically uninventive either.

I'm curious about this Finn guy. If it's true, at any rate.

This does look a bit like somebody having a laugh, hoping to get exactly these sorts of comments.

On the other hand, even if it is true, so what? Whatever we think of these bands, positive or negative, is irrelevant, because Morrissey's forthcoming album will quite obviously bear no relation to them.

Might I remind you that Rick Rubin, famed for his production of funk/rap rock acts, went on to produce (excellent) recent material by Johnny Cash.

If this is true count me out of Moz fanbase forever. It would be the end of good taste for all time.

If Jerry Finn is on board, then why not get bloody William Orbit on board to remix a few b-sides, that'd be interestng - a nu-metal-grungey-pop-rock-trance remix!

jerry finn is gay.

sorry to disappoint the nay-sayers but I know this is true. Confirmed to a friend of mine by Boz last week.

I think Morrissey should open up a foundation to protect animal rights and retire from music business definently.

Uhmmm... Is it a good thing that he's worked with blink 182?... I don't think so Tim!

Man AFI and Sum41(no offense) have no depth or meaning and theyre songs sound the same. Morrissey's music is rich and pure and should not be made to sound like the other junk out there.

Well, I'm sure I've never heard of Mr Jerry Finn (which just goes to show how depressingly old I am...), but if Mr Morrissey and the forces around him have decided that he's the man, well, so be it. Off shore, Mr Lillywhite wudda been my choice, but a change is as good as a rest, right? ;-)
[And if anyone out there is curious, I live in sunny Sweden and my favourite record anyday is Vauxhall and I. Or maybe Swallow on my neck.
And just a piece of advice from someone who actually bought Hand in glove when it came out... Morrissey's good and clever, but really, Larry Hart wrote 'way better lyrics...]

putaquepariu, hein?

I just heard on the radio that Glen Ballard will be the producer. I think this would be great!!!

8/11/03--

http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1476576/20030811/blink_182.jhtml?headlines=true

MTV.com has an item about Blink 182 being in the studio in San Diego for an other two weeks with Jerry Finn. So if he is producing Morrissey, when will recording start and where will it be recorded? (I remember something on this board a while back about him looking at Irish recording studios.)

I can take Morrissey living in L.A...but not recording there. I want him to record in the coldest, grayest most desolate parts of England...with no access to Prozac.