Damn this is creepy! But a good quote to put aside you when you just committed a murder/suicide like that. Well I hope I get to find things like that when I go investigate people homes. As I am going to be a homicide investigator, after college. I would love to find someone who commits suicide and lets play ASLEEP until the police come, or also I DON"T MIND IF YOU FORGET ME. Which are by the way my funeral songs. I know I'm weird, but who isn't.

Well, but where did you hear about it in the first place?

no comment ;-p

Thats how I felt reading the news.

"I never wanted to kill, I am not naturally evil" when you have just murdered your mother and then turning the gun on yourself, it may be out of context with the original line, but boy that's really something!

I don't want to kill anyone, but the whole idea of the pent up frustration that Morrissey penned for two decades could have easily burst through me if I wasn't so gentle. The fact that the world has come to the point where that frustation can be ended so callously but without the presence of evil, with a single gunshot, is really powerful for me.

This exposes the power of Morrissey's words, not as a catalyst for this crime, but as a parting comment you couldn't choose better!

...is that he didn't know the 4 unreleased songs would be out today. Poor misguided bugger

Do we have a source for this story ? ? ? ?
or is it fake

You people are actually making me feel ill.

The internet is full of idiots, fakes and freaks... those comments I have just read back my statement up without question.

Maybe it's just me being European and not understanding U.S culture, but I don't think this story is a laughing matter. It's a tragedy.

Please, no more advocating the lyric in this context.

This is not something to celebrate, or do you people not get it?

First of all, I doubt the truth in this story; it just seems a little sketchy. Second, I think the only thing this quotation really shows is that morrissey's lyrics reach a lot of troubled souls out there.

...Morrissey fans all over the world need.

I don't get it. If this story is true, it really is sad, and I feel sorry for that boy. For someone to be so mentally and emotionally sick...it's terrible. Matricide is the most heinous crime that one could ever commit...and according to psyc docs, it is the hardest crime for a person to commit. A sick child he must have been...

Now, the lyric choice was by far fitting, if you look at it in such a morbid context. It is sad, though, that this sort of thing causes people to judge the other fans. Most of you know it will. It is sort of like the Columbine shooting...which caused many schools to enforce a dress code banning trench coats (my school was one of them). All of the sudden, every outsider in highschool who wore a trench coat was a suspicious person. Well now it will be sort of the same for those of us who happen to like to listen to Last Of The Famous International Playboys. And of course, that is something (if the story is in fact true) that people will focus on. "Oh, so the boy killed his mumsy...the boy killed himself...aha! He was a Morrissey fan! That must have something to do with it!"

Now, I do really believe that such a thing is sad. It is bad enough that he would kill himself, but killing his own mother (which would be understandable had she done something horrible to him in his childhood, although I DO NOT believe he was right) and then leaving behind some quote that would make him sound either even more mad, or somewhat innocent (as in he was forced to do this for some reason or other...it just sickens me. People are always using the wrong methods of getting their message out...of getting their voices heard.

What makes stories like this even more tragic is the fact that there is always a warning. Perchance that boy was sitting in his room for three days before this incident listening to the song over and over and over again. Maybe he told someone something about how he would love to just kill his mother sometimes, and then proceeded to say "...if I ever did, I would quote this song, and then kill myself." Something like this usually happens, and no one pays attention.

And one last thing...it is already hard enough to listen to Morrissey and The Smiths without being constantly asked if I am okay, if I am in need of support, or if I kill myself can so and so have such and such. People honestly think that all Morrissey fans are so sick in the head! This won't do much in the way of putting an end to such generalizations. Apparently there is far too much 'hard psychological evidence' to back up the theory that only depressed people will listen to 'depressing' music. So do only homosexual people read Oscar Wilde and Walt Whitman? Do only Christian people enjoy watching The Lion, The Witch, And The Wardrobe?

Eh...sorry about the tangent leap there...just got a little angry about something I learned in psyc class...I guess it kind of fits in here, though.

Well, this is very sad. But, what can you do?

Poor Morrissey. I know it must be difficult for him when something like this happens.

don't forget that after the Smiths split and there some connected suicides were reported, Morrissey wrote 'Angel, don't take your life, some people have got no pride, they do not understand the urgency of life'.

Steed.

if you ask me, the mother's to blame

everyone says "oh, this is a tragedy". but you caused it. your society. you pulled the trigger.

I've been searching for hours in the internet for any clue on this story, either in newspapers and internet pages, and found nothing. It's probably false.

Boy doesn't commit murder in Texas. Morrissey not quoted.

Wow, one rumor where the kid was not listening to Marilyn Manson's "The Reflecting God." Something must be wrong?

its great how any dumb metal kid can go about shootin' his friends and family like Jesus Frankenchrist, and blame it on our kiddo of glam rock, Marilyn. and then they let the little psycho get 15 years. if the kid was a cop, he'd get away free.

"Morrissey is guilty of the killing". sad but true. have you read J.G.Ballards "the atrocity exhibition"? if you were to relate, you could create complex fantasies involving your favourite celebrity as the murderer, you as the mother, the victim, the soul, the child. it plays with your mind.

my questions are...do the investigators know it's a Morrissey quote? Was the quote printed in the paper? How did texmozfan hear about the story?s

...With all the new crimes that you are perfectinggggggg
Oh, I can't help quoting you
Because everything that you said rings true
And now in my cell
(Well, I followed you)
And here's a list of who I slew

Reggie Kray - do you know my name ?
Oh, don't say you don't
Please say you do, (oh) I am :

The last of the famous
International playboys
x2

And in my cell
(Well, I loved you)
And every man with a job to do
Ronnie Kray - do you know my face ?
Oh, don't say you don't
Please say you do, (oh) I am :

The last of the famous...
bla bla bla

In our lifetime those who kill
The newsworld hands them stardom
And these are the ways
On which I was raised
These are the ways
On which I was raised

I never wanted to kill
I AM NOT NATURALLY EVIL
Such things I do
Just to make myself
More attractive to you --------
HAVE I FAILED ?

Oh, the last of the famous
International playboys
bla

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"Excellent single mythologising vicious London gangsters, brought into the limelight again in recent years after Morrissey sent a wreath to Ronnie Kray's funeral. Ronnie and Reggie Kray held a tight rein on 60's London with a network of crime, whilst maintaining public respect through legal businesses and charity events. They were eventually jailed in connection with the murder of Jack "The Hat" McVitie, as was dramatised in the excellent film "The Krays" featuring the Kemp brothers of eighties new-romantic outfit Spandeau Ballet.
Elicits one of Morrissey's best vocal performances, as he lilts and flounces his way through the fine comical prose."
-taken from IT MAY ALL END TOMORROW (thanks.)
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I just thought I'd post the lyrics for everyone, and a bit of the explination of the lyrics given by our folks at IT MAY ALL END TOMORROW. I always wondered who Moz was talking about in this song. I always thought, personaly, that is was an ego-trip kinda tune. I didn't realize there were gangsters in London. I think I'll go reflect on my stupidity.

Well, I 've sure than Moz don't need this for this life...
Sometimes i Try kill myself, but I think we have make the best on sorry life, suicide are so easy!!!
Kill somebody never answer...

Being an American myself I was not offended at what Anonymous said.Because let`s face compared to other places firearms are readily available in the U.S.Because of groups like the NRA promoting gun rights.Atrocities do happen in other parts of the world but because of the ease of obtaining weapons in the U.S.it happens much more frequently here.Those are just the facts.

And if this truly did happen it is a tragedy and not something to be joked or laughed about.It`s morbid to make jokes about these kind of situations.

Song lyric`s are not responsible for people killing themselves or taking other people`s lives.People have free will and are quite capable of making their own desicions.Their are always other factors in these kind of situations problems that were there before the person commits this kind of act.And when people blame lyrics for these kind of acts their just looking for a scapegoat to blame.Or someway of explaining something that completely baffles everbody.

I`m sure that if this story was true Morrissey would not be pleased about.Remember this is the beautiful man who wrote "It`s so easy to laugh it`s so easy to hate it takes strength to be gentle and kind".These are some of the of the most profound lyric`s ever written.Perhaps if people were gentle and kind to each other these kind of tragedies could be avoided.Maybe in the next world-Tibby

I live in Tejas and this never happened. Great dialogue though. Tune in next week.....

American culture....what can I say?
There are alot of beautiful aspects to America. I've been there many times and have enjoyed myself emensely on most occasions. The only times I didn't enjoy myself was when I was in a Downtown core late at night. American cities after Mid-night are damn scary if you don't know where you are. However, I never felt afraid when I was in the same type of situation in any European or Canadian town, and the reason for this is simply due to the abscence of fire arms.
There is definitly something wrong with a nation that has 271million people and 280million registered handguns. There are more guns in the States than there are people, and watching U.S movies really does open ones eyes.
It isn't R-rated to show someones head being blown off, but it is to see a naked body. Go figure!
Anyway, this story of murder is indeed a sad one. I know it could have happened anywhere, but it didn't. It happened in America, again. With that said, please don't attack me for stating the truth. I love America and Americans, but do see that your culture has a serious problem.

I think the kid was entitled to kill his bitch mother. the way she treated him. God, it makes you sick to think that if there is a God, it allows such things to happen. poor kid.

no validity re: the news item in question.

however if it actually happened, the media would
completely ignore/fail to report the Morrissey
connection.

and we all know Morrissey's penchant towards violence. he relished w/delight re: the kid in Denver who held a radio station at gun point, forcing them to play Smiths records non-stop.

furthermore, the hypocrisy of gun control is lost on you people.

since Europeans & Canadians hate Americans,
politicize everything American, and detest capitalism (w/the exception of Morrissey copyrighting his image), why should it matter
to you if we're killing one another in record numbers?

Wheter this story is true or not i think that this should be taken seriously,i mean death is not a laughing matter and i don't think Moz meant the lyric to be carried out in this manner. i find this to be tragic.

Part of what is so great about Moz is that he wrote such lyrics and he is still alive. There is a way to express yourself in a non physical way. Just another point that makes our Mozzer so damn cool!

The song "International Playboy", happens to be one of my favorites. I found it haunting since I love the lyrics, especially the mentioned verse and when Moz mentions how murder is glorified. But, the song is about RONNIE and REGGIE KRAY! Once again, It's Moz singing his visual of the "badboy" way of life, which intrigues him. In no way whatsoever does this represent Moz nor any imaginable influence people may make it out to be. It's just a good song. It has nothing to do with whether or not this kid murdered--if it's true, that is tragic, but not Moz related. Steve.

God I hope not...thats my line!

I think it's WONDERFUL that us Morrissey devotees are getting the media attention we deserve! Finally, we'll be respected for having influence, or following someone with that influence. People will now recognize how cruel this world is for the like of us, and what a god Morrissey is! I just wish more Morrissey related suicides get reported because we all know there are a lot. Murder is even more romantic! God, how I love this day!! Murder me Morrissey!!!

theres been so many times I couldve killed people everyday, screaming Morrissey quotes all day long.
If they ever found my old diary it used to head Morrissey quotes before every entry.
Its sad a mother and son have to Die before his words mean something to the outside world.
lets have a national kill day with Morrissey promotions. "Iam truly sorry but that sounds like a wonderful thing."

Morrissey is Murder

KILLEEN (AP) - Competition from other restaurants has done what a deranged gunman couldn't - close the doors to the Luby's Cafeteria where 23 people died nine years ago.

Despite the horrifying memories, residents have continued to dine at the Killeen restaurant. But the cafeteria was one of 15 Luby's scheduled to close Friday.

George Hennard drove his truck through the window of the cafeteria's dining area at lunch hour on Oct. 16, 1991. Moving calmly through a group of more than 100 people, he killed 23 and wounded 20 others before killing himself.

The cafeteria reopened five months later after a $350,000 remodeling and the installation of additional safety features.

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Being a resident of Killeen at around the time this happened, I was to say the least dismayed that Luby's reopened. I think that $350,000 if such a sum of money was actually spent (they did not raze the walls or tear up the foundation) should have been given to the 40 or so employees as severance packages. My point is that tragic things happen quite frequently, but when all is said and done, it's the almighty dollar that keeps things going or halts them...not bullets or madmen.

P.S. Did anyone here know that one-time Morrissey pal, Michael Stipe, lived in Killeen's sister city, Copperas Cove, for several boyhood years? He did.

Not sure WHAT to make of this palava!
All a bit DIANAFIED is'nt it?
  Anyway, do you think Mozz enjoys the Turin Brakes lp?

I'm starting uni in Sept as a mature student (at 21!! I know !) and would like to ask if one is still able to play the Smiths or Mozza at a reasonably loud volume, and not be considered a freak, set in my ways or just clutching to the past?

Answers on a postcard perrleeasee!