It does suck that news items are lately really trivial, and this does not bode well for Morrissey, or his fans. HOWEVER I really, really like coming here and reading things, and posting and conversing with other deadbeats such as myself.
Its not the news you sell Dave, its the community.

So let us make fun of the trivial stories such as
"Smiths song played at Local area Birthday party",
and don't take it to mean anything more than it is.
Joshing, posting, talking, certainly not living, but close enough, don't take that away from me.

As always this site is a beacon and life saving bouy in an endless ocean of worthless websites. Thanks always. and have a Happy Mothers Day.

Personally I think that the trivial isn't needed.
However, that's only my opinion. If the masses do feel that their day is more complete having heard such news, then by all means, keep posting the trivial.
Ultimately, Morrissey will have to do something soon or there will be an unfortunate influx of people like me.

Personally I don't care too much for the most trivial trivia such as who mentioned Morrissey in an interview and such.....but then anything is much better than nothing so I think it should stay on. And as for help - you know where to find me!

Hell, Morrissey says it in a song, "such a little thing..." uh, and so on. The trivial stuff is always fun to read. Would you want to remove the little things in life that make it passable?! NO!
So I say, keep them in!

19 days till the U2 concert.. yippy!!!!
Sincerely,
DeB of the West Sider Riders :-)

Dave When there is no Moz news -

Why not Make the News up yourself.

There are 2 ways to do this, both have there own cavets (sic). First Make your own Moz news.
Example Headlines

"Morrissey attacked outside his home by popular moz website owner"
"Morrissey loses cool, and swears "Fuck off" after being prank called 150 times, by popular moz website owner"
"Morrissey May phone bill, $72.22, $33.87 dollars International calls, according to stolen phone bill presented by popular moz website owner"
"Morrisseys' copy of Maxim stolen from Mailbox by popular Moz website owner"

Note you wouldn't be lying, you would actually do these things and then report it. So you would proactivly create Moz news. Also You should never refer to your self as davidt, only by "popular moz website owner", or davidt(different one), etc. This would add to the mystique of the narrative.

Next you could create Moz news yourself, up to the limit of your own creativity. You wouldnt have to rely on facts or things that are printed, no checking sources, just complete deciet and exciting news. Many news organazations (sic), such as the NY Times, already have use this type of reporting.

Example Headlines
Morrissey Meets Minnesota Gov. Jesse Ventura to discuss human rights issues in China.
Morrissey Show at the Apollo Raises Hopes in Harlem
Morrissey Weeps Over Killing of Old Yeller

You get the idea. Better minds then mine could do quite a bit of good work here. So here you would be untied from all reality and could write at your will.

Now you say but what good is news if its fake, well first its entertaining, but beyond that, you don't differentiate between real news, real news you create, and news you makeup. It will keep us all on our toes and will be loads of fun.

Best wishes, and good luck.

       

I think that right now the only info we could have would be trivial, that is until Morrissey actually starts recording or playing again. Some news is better than no news. Keep it up. One day there will be news that blows us away!

As always-

the devil is in the details...

please keep the little updates (and the big ones too).

pats

As a master of the trivial, let me say that I'm in favourof them. At least if they're here I have the option of reading little tidbits, where as I can skip them if they seem pointless.

If it ain't broke, don't fix it.

keep us informed on Morrissey/Smith mentions...

i consider it a valuable form of ammunition...

when someone mouths off that Morrissey is of no consequence at all, i can point to respected/ current performers who have listed him as an
influence.

 

yes, keep the trivial things, it's nice knowing there is *some* sort of moz news now and then, no matter how small.

and also, thank you for doing such a great site! keep up the good work!

I think something this site could do with is a cool message board. The one I use a lot is the one on Hole.com. Despite not liking Hole that much, there is a good sense of community and message boards for different things such as Hole-related stuff, internet stuff, and then another message board where you can just talk about anything. I have made a few friends there and it is good because you are not restricted by certain subjects. There is also private messaging. I realise that this probably costs a lot andcourtney can well afford it, as she posts on the site too, but surely we could have a cheap and simple way of bonding with each other! It sometimes feels a bit lonely out her in Moz-land.

PS: I would love to help with the site.

PPS: Keep up the trivia. Anything is better than nothing.

the trivia is good, it's fun!!

Over the past 4 years, I must have visited this site a few thousand times. I find that much effort went into this and that You should do what You want. Simple as that. I think that every Smiths/Moz fan as well as the Man himself owe you many thanks. Many fan pages exist out there, but the level of professionalism put into this one goes way beyond the call of duty.

Merci David

This site has alot to to do with the Morrissey following hanging on to some shreds of hope. If it were not for the wonderful information(all of it) Moz might be sliding headlong into obscurity. I think you are doing a perfect job David. I have grown to love all the insults, barbs and slags in this little family and I hope it continues-

Please keep something coming, even if it is the most minute tidbit about the Mozzer.

About creating a committee to assist, please don't delegate duties to Greasetea or anyone who would destroy what is left of this once wonderful site/message board!

hi there,
my preference would be for a regular update e.g. every wednesday. i know it would probably be more hassle for david t or (maybe it would be easier for him to organise things this way?), but that would stop me looking every day and getting that sinking feeling when there is no news again!

perhaps a more immediate update would be good if there was any big news (tour/record deal etc) but a weekly update including trivial stuff would be ideal for me.

anyway don't get too depressed out there in morrissey fan land! in very recent interviews boz claims there are 15 songs ready to go and another 10 or so works in progress, and alain says the priority now is for a new morrissey album and tour, so you get the feeling that things are about to start moving...

however, it is deeply depressing to be nearly half way thru ANOTHER year with no immediate sign of new songs.

neil o'peel

The trivial comment have become very boring and lame. It would be nice to see some actual News even though it is hard to find Morrissey news. I think it's ridiculous when trivial things such as there was a four second clip of The Smiths on VH1, or Morrissey mentioned in a snetence of some magazine. But some of them are quite funny and all in all the site is great David.

I was shocked to see this item up for debate today because I've been thinking about how I was a little bored by all the "news" lately. This has definitely been the longest, dryest spell for Morrissey news.

I do check out the site daily in hope of finding a new page that will distract me from work for a few minutes. Sometimes I do it compulsively, just out of boredome or out of routine. But I do like to read the small items, like the current Pet Shop Boys item.

However, I must admit that my heart sank when I thought David was going to say that he was going to stop posting regularly until there was news to report. So I guess that means my vote is for the frequent updates.

But how long can this go on? Morrissey, send one thoughtful letter to give us an update, or just to say hello. How about a Web-exclusive interview? I think that could sustain us for a while. Are you out there?

We've got to read something, Dave. It's the trivial stuff that lets me know the site is actually updated. I keep coming back, looking for the diamond in the rough, the real news story amidst the trash. It's fun. Without the trivial bits, I would never know that "Panic" was structured around T Rex's "Metal Guru," etc. I like to learn this crap. It's the Smiths/Morrissey nerd that lives within me. So keep posting Neil Tennant's mentions of Morrissey. I want to know that Dharma wore a Shoplifters button. 'Cause I'm a nerd, and I'm not ashamed, dammit.

Well ,at least you're being honest about it ,and that's a good thing : it's true that lately I've been visiting the news page just to stare at emptiness in the face. ("No Smiths songs played at Morrissey's primary teacher 's wedding in 1947" ,"Interview : Marvin Rossiter's cousin's butcher says he heard him humming a song in his shop, once " "Commemorate the toothfairy 's first ever visit to Morrissey on July 3rd" "Britney Spears lyrics: no direct Morrissey influence found" blahblahblah...)

Why so scared of silence ?
Don't waste your energy on pointless things.Keep some of it for life !
As for Morrissey things might happen again -or not .Who really cares after all ? Is that the important thing ? I might be wrong but I don't think it is .
For some of us Morrissey is like an excuse.

Whatever happens you will have shown us and yourself that you are capable of doing a great job when you're committed and passionate (and smart ) (well it looks like it anyway) .You will have allowed people from all over the world to express themselves . (sometimes a little too often maybe) (your guestbook has turned into an encyclopaedia !)
For all this I'd feel proud if I were you !
So don't worry.

Dear David I think you should keep posting the trivial.I appreciate even the tiniest tidbits of information that I can get about Morrissey or The Smiths. This is usually the only place I can get any info at all.This ia a great site to find out both the trivial and important.And I think its great when people take the time to share this information with all the Morrissey and Smiths fans out there.

Whether short breaths or long breaths or even the urgency of hyperventilating, this site must continue to breathe the life of visitation. Don't shun me off with nothing to say for weeks, leaving me out of the freindship of constant dialoque. Just an "ok" or "hello" will suffice though trivial by content goes leaps and bounds to make me feel the warmth of the glow of what it is about Morrissey/Smiths. And when the thing happens worthy to be called "news" will with big receptive eyes and tight-liped countenance catch your tossed words of acheivment.

I enjoy visiting the site and reading anything related to Morrissey. I would be disappointed indeed if two weeks went by and there were no new posting, regardless of how trivial they may be.

please keep the trivial info coming.
i need to have something worth reading on the internet!

I enjoy all the updates, and nothing is more depressing than checking this site after a couple, three days away from it and there's no new news. I think Morrissey fans thirst for any news regarding Moz and drink it up voraciously. I know I do. I've gained a lot from the little tidbits -- what book to buy next, what magazine to check out for a little picture or mention of Moz, anything. We're not as lucky at U2 fans or such who can see their favorite bands anywhere, anytime. We need anything to keep up buoyed. Thanks David, from a Morrissey fan in Minnesota.

hey dave how about cleaning up the guestbook, it's getting rather tiresome reading all that babble. i am begining to stay away, because i am getting fed up with all that nonsense that goes on in there, i know im not the only one that feels this way.....so please help us!!!

I always find the little 'Moz spottings' to be interesting. Plus, it is good to see that I am not the only one that gets excited over the mention of Morrissey's name.

trivial is better than nothing keep it "such a Little thing..."

Please keep the trivial David.Any tiny bit of info about Morrissey and The Smiths is very much appreciated.I have learned things on this site that I would not have known about otherwise both major and minor.I love reading about Morrissey being in or being mentioned in some magazine, television show or on the radio no matter how minor it is .I think its great when Morrissey and The Smiths fans share this info with their fellow Morrissey/Smiths fans no matter how trivial it may be. So I say keep it coming "How I Love All Of The Very Simple Things Of Life".And thanks to David and everyone who contributes to this site. It is very much appreciated.

If you don't mind putting up trivial news, I don't mind reading it. Anyone who does mind can skim the headlines and skip it.

I would like to come here and read real news, but that's up to Morrissey and crew to make it themselves, right?

Despite the fact that I only vaguely gaze at the stories about Dick Clark once hearing of a band called the smiths and understand they might be "swell", I have to admit i like the adrenaline rush of seeing something new on the newspage. Even if it's before you feel the letdown of it not being anything earth shattering. Even if it is hope deflated, that little peak of hope is better than feeling none at all.

lets face it - if it were real news we were talking about the www-solo would be empty.
mozz has been asleep for 4 years.
seasick and permanently docked.

so why not keep the trivial trivia up!

this site probably boasts more regularly visitors than most, so i reckon the mozz appreciation society owes u big time.

well done.

I wish the paperboy would deliver a newspaper edition of this site to my door every morning!

I think you have done a wonderful job so far, all right some stories like the colour of Johnny Marr's socks are quite unimportant, but for people who dont look at televisions like myself, it's what saves the day to be frank. So keep it on the site but maybe list only the "real" news in the newsletter? I trust you to choose wisely and will keep passing by this site daily because i like it here and can i stay ?

Onward onward onward

OK, some of the stuff on this site is trivial - the Dharma & Greg "Shoplifters" button story is a case in point - but hell, we're Morrissey fans. The whole point of being a fan is that you are acquisitive to the point of obsessive of even the smallest fragments of information. Keep the trivial.

MOZaholics unite and take over..
I've followed Morrissey and "the Smiths" ever since forever.
However, I do feel slightly at fault for the above stated comment.
My response to "L.A Confidential". wasn't meant to insult you people! All I was trying to do was wake Morrissey up!

You stubborn old man
Oh you stubborn old man
you're making a fool of us all
So PLEASE get ON the stage.............

David, I think that it's a wonderful space. It's not relevant if just facts are posted here (of course they are welcome, though) what's great is the way we talk, the way Morrissey has been helping us to understand the world and ourselves. I love to read the posts of Razor, Hand in Glove and Smiths, they are so funny and so creative! We are also doing a bit of art here, perhaps.

Enough said.

Load it on David, we are hungry. I think the obscure posts kinda help the newer people catch up on years of missed who's-who and stuff.

All hail our underlord!

If it isn't broken, why fix it? For any Morrissey fan this is the number one site on the web. If anyone says in an interview they like/dislike Morrissey then I need to know.

I agree with many others on here. I think that most of us kind of has an idea of what is true and not. Personally, this is the only web site that I have ever been totally devoted to. Distant second, would be playing chess-online. I say, keep the story's coming in and we'll sort them out in our own belief system. The bits and pieces I read of Moz sightings, mentions of and related articles (especially by other musicians and author's), are the only contact of whats going on with Moz that I have. Particularly, Since I live in the Mid-West of the U.S.. I also love to hear any mention of Oscar Wilde and fans who claim to have briefly run into him. Anyone who frequents this sight should be extremely thankful to Dave....Thanks again, Hated for Loving.

I think the trivial news bits encourage participation, and that is what makes this a really unique (at least to me) web page. I have looked around at a few other fan sites (for various people), and have found nothing else quite like this! I have only recently "rediscovered" this site after a few years, and going through the archives kept me busy for a few weeks--great fun!!

I agree with whoever said that it is an adrenaline rush when to see new headlines, I always read through everything first, then follow the discussions as they develop. I especially like reading about other artists' Moz comments/criticisms. If something is too trivial, I just skip over it--I certainly don't find it offensive or anything!

I personally appreciate all of the work that goes into this site, and hope that David can keep on updating us frequently!!

I have blathered on long enough now :) Thanks for reading

Claire

Mr. T,
obviously we all enjoy and appreciate the work you do on this site. Anyone who doesn't is a wanker anyhow - so who cares. Who's to say what's trival and whats not anyway? Don't change - don't change - don't change.

love, ideal

I used to think, Hey, maybe others would like to know that I saw a mention of Morrissey or The Smiths in a good book I was reading. But I was berated when I contributed a tidbit that Salford was featured in the film "East is East" because it was so minor. So...keep sending your tidbits because I won't be sending mine anymore. And...hehe...I know Morrissey's address and you DON'T! So I'll just be keeping that to myself now, won't I?

I think most of us delight in all the little references to this amazing man. If not for places like this, where would we convene?

Don't stop what you are doing!

trivial things should be taken seriously

please keep the trivial news. making news up is only good if you make the news yourself in real life, otherwise it's just too much like the onion or something. gossip is great. we love it.

We gotta keep the flag flying, don't we? So give us a kiss and EVEN MORE trivia.

Chrs, Flrn

trivia is, after all, NO trivia - you know what i mean.
i'm actually living on them, gasping.

by the way i've always wanted to have a chance to say this to the owner of this site,
and i feel somehow it's the right time; thanks for everything, dave.

moon from korea

keep up with the trivial stuff because I like it. Buy All Hands On The Bad One. It's the 3rd best album ever.