Willy Russell strikes again
posted by davidt on Monday November 20 2000, @10:00AM

An Klestar writes:

The author of "The Wrong Boy", British playwright Willy Russell appeared in Hardtalk, the interview playground of Tim Sebastian. Interviewed about his career, Sebastian and Russell eventually moved on, in the final minutes, to the novel "The Wrong Boy"; and describing the character (Raymond Marks), Russell says "he's (RM) terribly into Morrissey and The Smiths".

Interrupted by the run-of-the-mill explanatory question from T.S.: "Morrissey, the depressing singer ..."?, Willy Russell, irked by such ignorance, strikes again, shouting out enthusiastically "No no no, Morrissey is a marvellously ... witty lyricist"!

Result: Sebastian floored again, leaves the Morrissey topic. Alas. But well, to the wider BBC audience, the words of truth were spoken.

Nothing we didn't know already, but this man really likes our man. And proves it. All in all, a jolly good bloke, this Willy!

 
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    er, correction needed (Score:1)
    Mark Simpson is supposed to be the guy from Saint Morrissey. The Russell character should read Raymond Marks.

    Got it all wrong, apparently. Fair enough.

    sorry folks,
    AK
    An Klestar -- Monday November 20 2000, @10:44AM (#4832)
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    Book review please (Score:0)
    Has anyone read the book?Is it worth reading?
    Anonymous -- Monday November 20 2000, @11:33AM (#4838)
    • Re:Book review please by An Klestar (Score:1) Monday November 20 2000, @01:06PM
      • Re:Book review please (Score:2, Insightful)
        Yes, you should read it. It's about you. Well at least page 377 is about you (I can smell you're one of those "older fans").

        I've seen them, the older fans, the ones who were probably fans right back at the beginning, back in the early days when you and The Smiths first emerged, and they were only nineteen or twenty-somethings themselves. And then, back then, they must have seemed really 'it', Morrissey, those early fans with their fledgling quiffs, their shy smiles, their Meat Is Murder and Morrissey-mania. They must have looked lovely in all their cultivated loneliness, giddy not-normalness and exquisite indie-superiority. But ten years on, hanging around at concerts or conventions, their quiffs somewhat wilted and starting to recede, they just look sad; and faintly cheesy, all their enigmatic loneliness looking more like quiet desperation. (...) Fans so devoted that they became trapped inside their devotion, imprisoned by their idolatry; those who clung onto worship because they were afraid to let go; in case they discovered that outside of you, Morrissey, and beyond the bedrooms of their own minds, they did't exist. Which is why they're still there, at all of the concerts and all the conventions, with all the rights books and rare records and pictures, all the right poses and strike-the-right-attitudes, all the right facts, dates and figures, discographies, bios and trivia and Morrissey-lore; those who dared adore you for just a little to long, Morrissey; those whose love is so needy that it blinds them to that look in your eyes, Morrissey; that look of pained contempt."

        There's no reason to feel depressed. You would have failed anyway. I guess Willy Russell only wants to say to us: "stop buying promos".
        Mattijs -- Monday November 20 2000, @03:48PM (#4852)
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        We live as we dream - alone (Joseph Conrad)
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        • Re:Book review please by Anonymous (Score:0) Monday November 20 2000, @04:02PM
          • Re:Book review please (Score:2, Insightful)
            well, it certainly is a "boy-ish" way of looking at it. I never saw a girl with quiffs and sideburns, though.

            I think, however, that the bulk of the Morrissey-mania really started in the post-Smiths era. As if those who missed the Smiths experience were feeling obliged to make up for it by delving into the "attested matter of musical history". To me, it's not so much facts that matter(ed), it's the atmosphere, the ethics and aesthetics of The Smiths, "the band who says no". They were really very fresh at that time. Young and eager. "The ghost of troubled Joe".
            Back in the early 80s, it was all rather natural, the Smiths were frequently interviewed, they released singles, had airplay and whatnot. You accumulated factual knowledge just by being attentive. And the interviews then were about what The Smiths were about, and not about some LA cottage Morrissey's supposed to live in. They made sense. People were still eager to know what lurked behind the marine blue morrissey glance.

            The Smiths die-hards I know from that time are now either trapped in one of life's warp zones (kids, career, car and comfort) and certainly resent the time when life was still young and exciting. That's true. Most of those between 30 and 40 do, however, even if you were a Level 42 fan.

            And the other ones aren't desperate at all, and see The Smiths only as a creative beginning. The statement, very strong at that time, that you, the social nerd, brought up in silence and social exclusion, filling a lifetime with books and music, were right to make your point. About what you thought that mattered. Some of us still do. And don't regret a single second of it all.

            So, "failed doing what"? Failed to become mainstream, cynical and respectable? Fair enough; it would be a sad thing if we would have failed to keep The Smiths's spirit alive...
            An Klestar -- Tuesday November 21 2000, @03:14AM (#4879)
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          the wrong boy signings.... (Score:1)
          the man willy russell was going to be doing a book signing at the newcastle branch of waterstones, i discovered yesterday. yippee! i thought, i'll just call in sick at my crappy job. but no, when i asked the staff there, they said it was now cancelled. BASTARD!!!!! i could have spoken to him about morrissey and stuff, and maybe even met some fellow devotees there (seeing as though newcastle seems to have a severe smiths/morrissey fan shortage). so.......has anyone else been to a signing, what happened, did i miss anything exciting?
          lily -- Thursday November 23 2000, @12:57AM (#4957)
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          the wrong boy (Score:0)
          where can i find this book in the US? i've checked amazon.com and they don't have it. can anyone tell me what's up with that?
          Anonymous -- Thursday November 23 2000, @09:46PM (#4981)


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