MT-A = Angela
MT-K = Kimie
Scotty = Lead singer of Elva Snow
Spencer = Spencer Cobrin

MT-A: From making observations from the tour and reading many articles and books on Morrissey, most notably Dave Simpson's "Manchester's Answer to the H-Bomb"-
Spencer: Yeah, I did see that-

MT-A: it would appear that there are many people- Why are you laughing?
Spencer: Nothing, carry on.

MT-A: it would appear that there are many people-who have been ex-communicated from Morrissey's inner reaches over the past 10 years. These people, including yourself seem somewhat hesitant to talk about their experiences with Morrissey. As Simpson says in his article, " Sometimes, the people you'd expect to have little to lose from talking about him were most steadfast in their refusal to talk about the singer's pathologically guarded life." Does Morrissey inspire this strange loyalty within people? -- even people who are no longer associated with him. How would you explain it? Why have you remained silent?
Spencer: Why have I been silent? Well, nobody's called me.

MT-A: I have!
Spencer: Well-
Scotty: Well it's all kind of hearsay. Spenny's not one to gossip. His experience with Morrissey has been really valuable I'm sure. Because Morrissey has such a strong fan base, it's not the sort of thing you want to talk about. It was what it was and it was amazing I'm sure. But to say anything other than that would be criminal.

MT-A: Was it that bad? What were you feeling inside when you came to the conclusion that enough is enough. That you couldn't possibly work for him anymore?
Spencer: Well, what was I feeling? Absolute happiness. Total bliss.

MT-K: Was that both times? Because you were in and you were out and then you were back in.
Spencer: He sacked me the first time but via somebody else. Whenever he drops someone its always through somebody else, you know. He doesn't have the guts to sack someone in person.

MT-A: But then he brought you back to do the B-sides. Why?
Spencer: I dunno. You'd have to ask him.

MT-A: Yeah, our access to him is kind of limited, you know.
MT-K: So he sacked you through someone else?
MT-A: And Gary.
Spencer: Yeah, me and Gal.

MT-A: But from what we hear Gaz had some problems.
Spencer: Oh really, what did you hear?

MT-K&A: uhhhhhh...
MT-A: We actually can't repeat it.
Spencer: Ooooooooh, the cards are on the table!

MT-K: But big problems.
Spencer: Whatever. It's water under the bridge as far as I'm concerned. I dropped him like three years ago now. He's waiting in the wings just like lots of other artists. He doesn't have a label or a deal and he's desperate to find one.