Morrissey does not have a record contract - true-to-you.net
posted by davidt on Wednesday November 04 2009, @10:00AM

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4 November 2009

Morrissey's contract with Universal has now ended, and he is presently without a record company.

 
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Alone again, naturally (Score:0)
Moz doesn't need a record company, IMO. With his fanbase, he could sell the music himself and pocket the dough. The music business is over. Neil Peart (drummer for Rush) said in his blog recently that the record company will not give them an advance to make an album! And Rush sells a lot more records than Moz.
Anonymous -- Wednesday November 04 2009, @10:07AM (#342242)
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  • lol by Anonymous (Score:0) Wednesday November 04 2009, @02:07PM
    • Re:lol by jerrylovesukindie (Score:1) Thursday November 05 2009, @06:09PM
  • Re:Alone again, naturally by rooneyred (Score:1) Wednesday November 04 2009, @02:42PM
    • Not again- wt...? by Anonymous (Score:0) Thursday November 05 2009, @06:26PM
      No worries (Score:1, Insightful)
      Warners will throw a TON of filthy lucre his way for a new contract. As long as there is a guarantee that he will join up with former band-mate for a joint venture.
      Anonymous -- Wednesday November 04 2009, @10:14AM (#342243)
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      • Re:No warners by Anonymous (Score:0) Friday November 13 2009, @05:24PM
        Swords (Score:0)
        now we know why Swords was released.
        Anonymous -- Wednesday November 04 2009, @10:21AM (#342245)
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        Morrissey (Score:1, Insightful)
        He won't get another one. Sorry Moz, time is up. Retirement time.
        Anonymous -- Wednesday November 04 2009, @10:36AM (#342246)
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        • Re:Morrissey by Anonymous (Score:0) Wednesday November 04 2009, @11:08AM
          • Re:Morrissey by Anonymous (Score:0) Wednesday November 04 2009, @12:49PM
            • Re:Morrissey by Anonymous (Score:0) Wednesday November 04 2009, @01:01PM
              • Re:Morrissey by Anonymous (Score:0) Wednesday November 04 2009, @04:39PM
              • Re:Morrissey by Anonymous (Score:0) Wednesday November 04 2009, @05:14PM
                • Re:Morrissey by Anonymous (Score:0) Wednesday November 04 2009, @05:25PM
                  • Re:Morrissey by Anonymous (Score:0) Thursday November 05 2009, @12:49AM
                  • Re:Morrissey by Anonymous (Score:0) Thursday November 05 2009, @03:28PM
              A new chapter ahead? (Score:-1, Flamebait)
              Excellent news! Maybe he will now have to leave the comfort zone, ditch Boz & the boys, and embark on a new and exciting collaboration with someone new. You've still got it, Moz, don't waste your time with clueless buskers like Boz and Jessie.
              Anonymous -- Wednesday November 04 2009, @10:51AM (#342248)
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              Here we go again.... (Score:0)
              Moz has been through billions of labels over the years. But it' no surprise there is no longer a contract with Warners.....they are dropping bigger names than Morrissey. What's going to happen next?
              Anonymous -- Wednesday November 04 2009, @11:00AM (#342250)
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                Wow, didn't see that one. LOL (Score:1, Insightful)
                No one will pick him up. Time to retire. The shows are such a bore now, the music is dull. It is way past retirement time now. He has turned into a crashing BORE.
                Anonymous -- Wednesday November 04 2009, @11:16AM (#342253)
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                Again (Score:0)
                What's new.
                Anonymous -- Wednesday November 04 2009, @11:17AM (#342254)
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                • Re:Again by jennystar100 (Score:1) Wednesday November 04 2009, @11:48AM
                  some people on this website... (Score:-1, Flamebait)
                  are fucking scum!
                  always complaining about Moz, it's just so fucking tedious to have to read so much bullshit here.
                  WHAT A BUNCH OF UNGRATEFUL ASSHOLES!
                  If you don't like him well fuck you! Your opinion is not required; STFU and go listen to the Hoosiers or something equally as mediocre, you don't deserve
                  Anonymous -- Wednesday November 04 2009, @11:39AM (#342262)
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                  no control (Score:1, Troll)
                  I hear Morrissey is looking for a record company without a department for Quality Control.
                  Senior Partner -- Wednesday November 04 2009, @11:42AM (#342264)
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                  "Our firm has always been here in one form or another..."
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                  • Re:no control by Anonymous (Score:0) Wednesday November 04 2009, @12:50PM
                    • Re:no control by Anonymous (Score:0) Wednesday November 04 2009, @01:00PM
                      • Re:no control by Senior Partner (Score:1) Wednesday November 04 2009, @01:51PM
                        • Re:no control by Anonymous (Score:0) Wednesday November 04 2009, @02:15PM
                          • Re:no control by Anonymous (Score:0) Wednesday November 04 2009, @02:19PM
                      1997 again... (Score:0)
                      oh, *delete expletive*.

                      Due to illness I was wavering about whether I could go to Ally Pally tomorrow. Now I must go. If Morrissey can't get another deal, who knows when the next tour might be, it might be some years, or it could even be the last one. We all know Mozzer's objections to publishing music on the internet a la radiohead, so anyone thinking that will happen this time around is deluded.

                      Unfortunately the sales figures for YOR speak for themselves. Perhaps Moz needs to go away for a bit and rediscover the character and social observation parts of his songwriting....the last two studio albums have been practically all "Me" and "I" perspective. The story telling of Billy Budd, Playboys, Spring Heeled Jim...it all seemed to stop at Southpaw Grammar, came back a bit for Quarry, and has gone AWOL ever since.

                      However, perhaps if we see less of Morrissey, perhaps some of the old atmosphere of any shows that might happen will come back and the posers and dullard drunkards will bugger off!

                      Sorrow of Stamford Bridge
                      Anonymous -- Wednesday November 04 2009, @11:46AM (#342265)
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                      Kinda makes sense now ... (Score:0)
                      Swords was a pointless release. Morrissey wasn't about to release new material if he knew he was about to part ways with the record company. The way these deals work, he probably didn't make any money from album sales anyway. Oh, and he's probably not going to tour for awhile after the Swords Tour ends. I'm glad I got a chance to see him earlier this year.
                      Anonymous -- Wednesday November 04 2009, @12:24PM (#342271)
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                        Indie (Score:1)
                        Perhaps is time to turn his back to the big record companies and go back to find something more indie that respect him for who he is and what he wants to do. Couldn't he produce his own album? Other artists do!
                        Gejo -- Wednesday November 04 2009, @12:39PM (#342275)
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                        • Re:Indie by Anonymous (Score:0) Wednesday November 04 2009, @12:42PM
                          • Re:Indie by Anonymous (Score:0) Wednesday November 04 2009, @12:53PM
                          • Re:Indie by Hello Indie (Score:1) Wednesday November 04 2009, @01:10PM
                            • Re:Indie by Anonymous (Score:0) Wednesday November 04 2009, @01:17PM
                              • Re:Indie by Gejo (Score:1) Thursday November 05 2009, @04:13AM
                                • Re - BAND by Anonymous (Score:0) Friday November 13 2009, @05:28PM
                              Record companies are dead, is Moz though? (Score:0)
                              Years Of Refusal had a lot of promotion, particularly for a Moz LP. Posters in train stations, tv adverts etc. I don't know the sales figures but I doubt if it sold more than Ringleaders.

                              I can't see a record company taking a chance. And Moz shouldn't sign up with a major record company anyway. They're dead.

                              Could this really be the end though?
                              Anonymous -- Wednesday November 04 2009, @01:16PM (#342298)
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                              Reissue! Repackage! (Score:0)
                              I didn't even know he was with Universal seriously though on face value whats a 'Universal'? record contract worth for an Artist as big as Morrissey these days?, whats any record contract worth to any Artist other than a beginner?, with the internet, i.e Youtube, Itunes etc, whats it worth?, i'll give you a clue, if the fans of popular music were to buy off artists independently it would quite rightfully be redundant and worth nothing, and the likes Warner Bros/etc would be doing honest legal jobs like laying bricks for a living and pushing trolleys down Asda instead of living off Morrisseys name.

                              I thought he had his own label 'Attack'?, well nows the time to go one better Moz, and create your own independent record company to release things on.
                              Anonymous -- Wednesday November 04 2009, @01:32PM (#342301)
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                              Morrissey might as well give up (Score:0)
                              He will never get another Major label record contract. He just doesn't move the units anymore.

                              Maybe he should just do the decent thing and retire - perhaps after one more farewell world tour.
                              Anonymous -- Wednesday November 04 2009, @01:35PM (#342302)
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                              Something new? (Score:2, Insightful)
                              You know something is happening,but you don't know what it is,do you....Mr. Moz!
                              What is next? I would say there are many ways to get one's music out there,but since he is still so album and charts guy,hard to say.
                              Vegas,all the time? Just say no.

                              Really,just say no.
                              KEVSTER -- Wednesday November 04 2009, @01:40PM (#342303)
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                              Oh come on... (Score:0)
                              Well, it doesn't take a genius.

                              "Morrissey is currently without a record contract" (on the only website he directly talks to) = COME AND GET ME.

                              "Let them come to you... just like I do... just like I do... "
                              Anonymous -- Wednesday November 04 2009, @01:46PM (#342304)
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                                Opportunity knocks (Score:1)
                                Morrissey will soon be a multi-talented man with time on his hands...

                                One door closes, and others open.

                                Why is a pig's tail like getting up at 3am in the morning?

                                It's twirly.
                                goinghome -- Wednesday November 04 2009, @01:57PM (#342307)
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                                Another 7 years? (Score:0)
                                He's really going to struggle to land a deal that he will feel is worthy of him. His worldwide sales are pretty feeble and akin to the Maladjusted era, when he was deemed a virtual outcast.
                                Anonymous -- Wednesday November 04 2009, @02:25PM (#342314)
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                                You'll get one soon Moz (Score:0)
                                Obviously. Moz is a great artist who makes great records, so clearly he'll get a contract soon.

                                It would be good if he had some-kind of fan site to appreciate his work.

                                In the meantime I believe this support site for malevolent sociopathic attention seekers has been known to post the odd positive comment about him from time to time, not so much lately mind.
                                Anonymous -- Wednesday November 04 2009, @04:00PM (#342324)
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                                uh oh (Score:0)
                                Not sounding good for Moz. No recording deal and he's not the "DIY" type. It's well known the man hangs on to the old ways and wants a label working for him that puts out physical releases. Even if he had a deal, who's he gonna get to write music for him? All signs point to Alain no longer writing for him and Boz/Jesse are only good for a few tracks. He'd have to find a new songwriting partner that brings out the best in him for a major label to have any interest. Perhaps it's time to wrap up the solo career and do a final reunion/farewell Smiths tour before sailing off into the sunset...
                                Anonymous -- Wednesday November 04 2009, @04:13PM (#342328)
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                                • Re:uh oh by Anonymous (Score:0) Wednesday November 04 2009, @04:25PM
                                  For Morrissey's Sake... (Score:0)
                                  ...let's hope Mr. Marr is calling soon.
                                  Anonymous -- Wednesday November 04 2009, @04:17PM (#342329)
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                                  Veganism (Score:0)
                                  Time for Morrissey to convert to Veganism.

                                  Vegetariansim is so 80s.

                                  Anonymous -- Wednesday November 04 2009, @05:36PM (#342341)
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                                    Cat Got My Tongue (Score:1, Insightful)
                                    Morrissey has said in the past that he doesn't want to release anything independently because nobody will hear it. In other words, he doesn't get a nice advance, and other gratuities that allow him to keep his shirt sleeves down.

                                    Morrissey wants a pimp. He's not the kind of artist to focus so intensely on his craft that he needs to be a part of the entire music making process.

                                    Personally, I think that attitude is coming back to haunt him.

                                    Boz has a studio, and a production experience, but again, Morrissey seems to take a record contract, and all of its advantages as a sign of validation.

                                    I don't believe he records for the sheer joy of making music, so, I would be shocked if he went the DIY way. He's clinging to childhood nostalgia in a business that is no longer what it was. Obviously, he doesn't deal well with change.

                                    What a shame.
                                    Nick The Name -- Wednesday November 04 2009, @07:05PM (#342347)
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                                    IŽll sign him (Score:0, Redundant)
                                    I just made a small download only record company myself to release my band Mono Explosive www.myspace.com/monoexplosive on iTunes.

                                    I will release Morrissey albums for free and he will get every single penny made for himself.
                                    I canŽt pay him anything to sign though but IŽll provide him with tea and biscuits every day he is in the studio.
                                    JensBC -- Thursday November 05 2009, @02:06AM (#342368)
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                                    Not time for stupidity! (Score:1)
                                    For those stupid anonymous comments saying that it's 'retirement time' for Morrissey, just to say that music and creativity of any kind is not only for the young ones. You are so full of pathetic prejudices!!

                                    "I am patient with stupidity but not with those who are proud of it".
                                    -Edith Sitwell-
                                    Gejo -- Thursday November 05 2009, @04:06AM (#342371)
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                                    So simplistic (Score:0)
                                    To think that Morrissey either has a record company or does not, seems rather simplistic to me. It's not like us mere mortals, who either have a job or don't have a job. The music world is totally different. If he wants to carry on what he's doing I feel confident he only has to pick up the phone and start talking. Yamaha
                                    Anonymous -- Thursday November 05 2009, @04:35AM (#342377)
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                                      Sharing is caring (Score:0)
                                      Morrissey should make his new songs available as free downloads. Because Moz knows that sharing is caring. Or caring is sharing. He makes his money through his concerts anyway...And we have paid enough for all those b-sides records and cd's anyway.
                                      Or, why not provide a code for free downloads when purchasing his upcoming autobiography. Has he found a publisher yet?
                                      Anonymous -- Thursday November 05 2009, @06:04AM (#342381)
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                                        Excited... (Score:1, Interesting)
                                        to see what Moz does after the Swords tour is over. With health concerns, no labels, and no true songwriting foil (sorry Boz & Jesse), it seems that the chips are stacked against our beloved hero. It's currently not the first time Moz has been in this position, but he always seems to come back... sometimes even better than before. Right now seems to be the end of his "comeback" era, climaxed with a tepid b-sides collection. I certainly hope that retirement isn't in the cards, Morrissey is a gift and even his worst songs are better than most artist's best... but taking a bit of time to "run wild... impregnating women or kissing mad street boys" might do the geezer some good!

                                        easymeat
                                        Anonymous -- Thursday November 05 2009, @07:51AM (#342389)
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                                        Point being? (Score:0)
                                        The point is Morrissey is not a musician. He does not have a craft in the same way, say, Richard Hawley has a craft. He can't explore new musically avenues or learn to hone his playing skills, because he hasn't got any. Which begs the question. If he's run out of interesting things to write about...what is the point of Morrissey?
                                        There used to be one thing Morrissey fans could use in defense of their idol - his lyrics. But he stopped writing decent lyrics in 1994.
                                        Call it a day Moz. Please.
                                        Anonymous -- Thursday November 05 2009, @08:10AM (#342391)
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                                        Universal (Score:0)
                                        money grabbing wankers if you ask me
                                        all of these record companies are always in it for themselves
                                        corporate bullshit if you ask me
                                        moz needs someone to steer him in a better direction
                                        get a new label, and possbily steve lillywhite or visconti back in the frame
                                        Anonymous -- Thursday November 05 2009, @09:05AM (#342394)
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                                          Why did he release this information... (Score:2, Insightful)
                                          ...and why on TTY?
                                          Why not have a proper news conference stating the facts and what his future plans are? Or is his mum busy?
                                          someraincoatedlovers * -- Thursday November 05 2009, @11:46AM (#342411)
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                                            The end game (Score:0)
                                            Its very unlikely Morrissey will ever see another major label contract. The only exception would be if Warner Music signs him and they would only do it to curry favor in their Smiths holdings. Bottom line is that he doesn't sell units and is impossibly difficult to work with. Thats a very toxic cocktail. Whatever monies a label could spend on him would be better spent on a artist that is easier to deal with.
                                            Anonymous -- Thursday November 05 2009, @12:34PM (#342417)
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                                              So-low (Score:1)
                                              If you guys think Moz is so shit I don't know why you even both looking at this website let alone leaving vitriolic comments about his lack of a record contract.
                                              Agreed he needs a break - this year has been miserable for him - maybe the record company has had something to do with it and its not just a mid life crisis
                                              But I loved the 2 shows I saw even though I had to wait 6 months for one of them - he's kept me going at a difficult time - so stop being mean to the one I love, please.

                                              orlando -- Friday November 06 2009, @06:22AM (#342545)
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                                                what...? (Score:0)
                                                again?

                                                what the hell is he doing to always be dropped from a label?
                                                Anonymous -- Saturday November 07 2009, @03:45PM (#342787)
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