I saw this interview on Obscure Sound...
the guitarist for The Dears, Patrick Krief, had this bit to say about Morrissey:
Well, I’m sorry to disappoint anybody by saying this. But I can’t deal with
Morrissey.. I never liked his music. I do hear the occasional reference in
The Dears, but man, I think people are just lazy, They need to put a label
on things.
Opening for Morrissey was a sad sight man. Seeing what success can do to
people is pretty painful. Being asked to leave the building when he’s
crossing the corridor, or being told to not look directly at him made me
sick!
Sometimes its better to not meet people you admire. The whole band was
pretty upset by the whole encounter. Luckily for me, I’m not a fan.
Wow! Sounds interesting. Not allowed to look in Morrissey's direction? Funny.
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what can you say? (Score:1)
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The Dears? (Score:0)
You aren't worthy to kiss his feet.
Bad Morrissey! Bad Morrissey! (Score:1)
Sounds like Moz has been spending too much time with Alexis.
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the dears are full of it (Score:1)
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If you don't like me, then... (Score:1)
considering how many people gaze at him, whether close to him or far from him, this comment is a rather intriguing one...
besides, it is ridicoulous to think of someone who has been in the public sphere for over 23 years, who has seeked it, to order not to be looked in the eye.
I've seen certain videos of him entering a car, a bus, etc. when he doesn't want to be looked at, he doesn't look at!
Regarding the corridor business, since this guy is not a fan anyway, and a non-fan who claims even to be sick with it, it's understandable: it might be for security purposes
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He's becoming a joke (Score:1)
"Opening for Morrissey was a sad sight man. Seeing what success can do to people is pretty painful. Being asked to leave the building when he’s crossing the corridor, or being told to not look directly at him made me sick! Sometimes its better to not meet people you admire. The whole band was pretty upset by the whole encounter. Luckily for me, I’m not a fan."
Oooookay, Morrissey, you ridiculous celebrity and stupid asshole. Another example that I was entirely correct about what you've become.
Someone should push his way through all his yes-men and slap some sense into him. It's just sad.
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Cliches and lies-- (Score:2, Insightful)
For example, WHO asked them to *not* look directly at him-? Etc. I find this hard to believe-
Especially when you consider how Morrissey has gone out of his way to shake hands with his fans at shows! At the Chicago dates for YATQ, Morrissey really tried hard to connect with his fans (the security was awful- but that is another story)-
This is the old Barbara Streisand cliche. I don't believe the truth in it at all- especially since I have met fans who have had Morrissey autograph different memorabilia. Morrissey has even went out of his home to meet and greet select fans in L.A. (who sorta stalked him). You guys know I'm telling the truth, here.
And Julia is another example. She is treated like near-royalty. So I say to hell with the Dears.
Ken
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Anyone who .... (Score:1)
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Dear me (Score:1)
Speculation is a bit pointless without firsthand knowledge. Morrissey could be a sensitive, kind, gentle person who'd be a pleasure to know, or at the other end a paranoid cokehead, obnoxious lush.
The truth is somewhere inbetween. The truth of who someone is, that's for them to know and other's opinions are relatively unimportant.
I heard the Dears album last week and didn't think much of it. My opinion on the music hasn't changed one way or the other. I don't hate him for expressing an opinion I disagree with.
I wish Morrissey the best of health and happiness, as I do the lad from the Dears.
No-one’s perfect, don’t expect too much…
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Rank inconsistency (Score:0)
"I never liked his music"
and
"Its best not to meet someone you admire" ??
What's to admire if he doesn't like the music? Or is he just a stirring little turd?
You decide!
Put your Dummy back in. (Score:0)
I'm getting a picture of the Tour Crew pissing their pants laughing, after they have asked these wet kids to walk around backstage in sack cloths & bells. "Don't look into the Eyes", "Bow". I can just imagine the scene.
Moz always treats his live shows as something between him and his fans. Even his own band are reduced to blending into the background for the larger part of the set. So if he wants to walk into the venue, gather his thoughts and go onstage without clingy support acts blocking his way? Good for him. Most support acts only serve to keep the bar a bit more empty, for the likes of me anyway!
The Dears (Score:0)
So what ? (Score:1)
This guy has obviously had his pride knocked and feels the needs to lash out. What exactly did he expect? A jolly get-together with the man himself ?
Anyway, surely we're not here to judge Moz's character, as we don't know him as a person. We do know him as an artist however, and this we can judge. Maybe this guy from the Dears should learn how to give artistic credit where credit is due, rather than throw his toys out of the cot for not being given
'respect, man'.
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The Boyfriends (Score:1, Insightful)
The Boyfriends chose not to take this personally and to interpret it as just the way Morrissey works. They didn't take offence and because of that it sounds like they made the most of the experience.
This guy obviously took the opposite attitude. He feels Morrissey should behave differently to his support acts and be more friendly. That's really up to him and it doesn't reflect on Morrissey imo. It's just a different way of operating.
What rubbish! (Score:0)
The 'people' (usually referring to record company or management execs) surrounding artists will often speak on their behalf and get it wrong. It wouldn't surprise me if some overzealous idiot from Sanctuary told the band not to look at him or some such thing without his knowledge. Artists are often over protected by their handlers to the extreme. This person is an idiot if he really thinks Moz would treat those on tour with him poorly. I know for a fact that the contrary is true.
L
Re:What rubbish! (Score:2, Interesting)
You may be right that his entourage was being over-protective, but Morrissey clearly has a lot of hang-ups and is unable to deal with people like a normal human being.
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Pre and post Bowie-'95 Tour? (Score:1)
Could it be that after the Bowie debacle (the only time Morrissey-solo has ever been support band on a bill I believe?) he wanted to keep it as business-like as possible with opening bands?
The no eye-contact/don't-be-in-the-same-area stipulations are a bit extreme, but you can imagine the possible scenario: bands gushing and saying "thank you" a million times and wanting to ask Smiths questions and all sorts of nonsense, and if they're multi-date support it'd only get worse. Maybe some bands wouldn't be like this, but why take the chance when he's gotta get psyched up each night.
Basically, you (supporting band) have been given the honour of opening for Moz -- do your job and leave it at that, because it may never get that good again! If I was opening for him the Last thing I'd worry about is socialising with him backstage!
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Well... (Score:0)
Maybe Patrick he just doesn't like you! It's allowed.
He's absolutely right.. (Score:0)
So Many Lies Has Been Told About Moz.... (Score:0)
come on, he's got to be and odd chap (Score:0)
Idiots (Score:1)
I love the Dears, I really do, but this person (and indeed many here) don't seem to realize that Morrissey is as he is because he is expected to be - he's made a career out of being a bitch! I mean hell, if he wasn't such a bitch, we'd wonder what was wrong!
Indeed, as an individual he may or may not be awful. But seriously, at the end of the day, who really cares? His image as an untouchable, loveless rockstar has made him a millionaire, so why wouldn't he continue to do snobbish, queenish things if it helps to get people saying: "Oh that's Morrissey (chuckle, chuckle...) what are ya gonna do?", as we've just done?!
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Moz, I don't even know you anymore (Score:0)
broken
I spoke with Murray Lightburn (Score:1)
I went over and talked with Murray (lead singer) for a few minutes and of course I asked him about opening for Morrissey (if it had not been for this I would have never paid any attention to the Dears.) Long story short-er Murray said that Morrissey was gracious and he had a good time opening for him. Just my two cents worth!
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Doubtful... (Score:2, Interesting)
When I met two of the boys from Elefant (at Coachella, after they had played for Moz in 2004 in LA) I asked what it was like to play for Morrissey. They said he seemed nice enough, but they never actually spoke to him in person. When they would be playing their set, he'd often watch them from the side of the stage and give them a thumbsup or something (so they said). I did (and still do) find it a little weird that he never met them ever, but I guess he's not looking for any more friends!
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Dear's Guitarist (Score:1)
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who? (Score:0)
across his eyes, i'm not allowed (Score:1)
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excuse me (Score:0)
jaja, stupid resentful little bitches
What's new? (Score:0)
If it was anyone else, they would be calling for the person's execution.
Morrissey is a jerk. Sorry. Self-centered people usually are jerks, and Morrissey has made no attempt to hide that point. Even his own friends admitted that he loves to sit around and destroy others for sport.
He doesn't like to pay the people he works with, and there are more than enough stories about the way he that treats people. But of course, that's all because they're jealous, right?
Everyone else is the problem. Morrissey's just trying to make a living.
Morrissey - If You Don't Like Me (Score:0)
Perhaps after seeing The Dears perform that night Morrissey realized just how shitty his band actually is and he was jealous? Perhaps Morrissey realized his own lyrical talent has hit the bottom of the barrel after hearing the genius of The Dears so he acted like the spoiled pissy brat that he is?
"If you don't like me then don't look at me", hmmmm. Why not just fuck off instead, Morrissey!!
Fastest way to career suicide - slag a kingpin (Score:1)
Enjoy your 15 minutes...or in the Dears case, 5 minutes (max).
Hasn't anyone ever told you it's not good manners to bite the hand that feeds you?
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very funny! (Score:1)
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ive followed The Dears fora long time. (Score:1)
on one of those occassions, ihad the opportunity to talk with Murray Lightburn, their lead singer, after the performance. it was back in 2003, as news of a new Morrissey album was juste starting to make a lot of noise. knowing he was a big fan of The Smiths and of Morrissey, iasked him what he thought of the it. he replied sayin something to the effect that he hoped it would be a lot better than the last album (ithink he juste said "the last album" to which ithen asked "you didnt like Maladjusted?" and he said "no"). it was a little wierd- he came off sounding less like a fan and more like a critic, though he had juste finished performing and perhaps he was tired, blah, blah, blah. still, at that time everyone who considered themselves a Moz fan was really juste over the moon at the news of a long-awaited upcoming album and so the curt response did somewhat throw me.
ialso saw The Dears open for Morrissey in Toronto in 2004. iseem to remember Murray thanking Morrissey for having them and sayin how he loved him, and fair enough. juste cos you dont like one album doesnt mean you cant be appreciative of the opportunity and it doesnt mean you havto love Morrissey any less. and this was one of the first shows (if not the first show) that the Dears had played with Moz, so if they taste for it ended up souring im sure that happened later.
in case some of havnt noticed, The Dears' new video has a Moz reference in it at the end. icant help but think its a little bit ofa pot shot at him, especially given these recent comments. it starts at about the about the 3min mark:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ShCwx7pwagc
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Important Notice (Score:0)
You can hear them here:
www.bbc.co.uk/radio1 and www.xfm.co.uk
Happy listening,
The Dears
x
it could be true! (Score:0)
Don't think so (Score:1)
And who are The Dears by the way??? Never heard of them.
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Don't think so (Score:1)
And who are The Dears by the way? Never heard of them.
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Have i missed something? (Score:0)
Morrissey was supposed to be above such rockstar.. (Score:0)
All these losers on here saying Morrissey is supposed to be GODlike and that his fans are not worthy goes against everything he railed at against in the 80s.
See money does change you...
Honestly I dont know if the anythign that's said about him is true but reading some of the comments on here are sad.
Morrissey is an imperfect human being who happens to write music that I love that a few others too.
If You Don't Like Him... Well???? (Score:1)
Yes, everybody have defects but... you can't say you're not fan of Morrissey and then write to this personal fansite, Please! it's terribly logic! Oh well they'll never learn.
by the way... who the hell are The Dear???
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the who? (Score:0)
Deary Me (Score:0)
The Dears will now be welcomed with open arms in the media and will probably sell lots off records.
I won`t believe that. (Score:1)
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Quit Whining you babies... (Score:0)
He does it all the time.....
He's just a bitchy queen....
he should stop selling records and be more in touch with his working class roots again
Sounds like... (Score:0)
"Being told to not look directly at him made me sick!"
ive heard this one before (Score:0)
who? (Score:0)
Morrissey is right to demand they avoid eye contac (Score:0)
Although I am a gay man of 49 who - some people tell me - looks a little like Morrissey in his prime, I would always pay the greatest of respect to Morrissey.
I See You (freeyourself, Lord of this realm)
aka Paul
PS I see you all. I am here, just waiting.
some site publishes the "info" today (Score:0)
i love both of you (Score:1)
i would drop dead if i ever stare him in the eye.
so i wouldn't wonder if he have more bodyguard thazn jesus.
and i think Patrick Krief say some fair word. because moz are created to be hated for anybody who don't like him too much. or don't know him either.
but for us moz lovers, all thing that moz did was amazing in anyway.
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