posted by davidt on Tuesday August 29 2006, @11:00AM
www.dianamystery.com writes:
After five years, there is a revised and expanded edition of THE DIANA-MORRISSEY PHENOMENON at its new address www.dianamystery.com

For the first time ever, I’ve now presented all of the very best evidence. You’ll be amazed by the spectacular new clues to Diana’s death! I believe that this is the most indisputable miracle in human history because it is 100% verifiable. If you actually read the whole presentation before passing judgment I am confident that you will finally agree with me that Princess Diana’s death was sharply foreshadowed in the work of Morrissey.
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  • I wondered where you'd dissapeared to... still no job then??
    Mozzarella -- Tuesday August 29 2006, @11:17AM (#233585)
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  • because they're not true believers. Don't listen to them, www.dianamystery.com!

    It's clear that the Queen is Dead is all about Diana's untimely death. I'm glad someone out there on the internets sees this!
    ProtestSinger -- Tuesday August 29 2006, @11:27AM (#233589)
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    .*.* I can smile about it now but at the time it was terrible *.*.
    • Jesus! (Score:2, Insightful)

      Sorry, protest...but she died 10 years after the release of this album ...
      Mrs. Woolf -- Tuesday August 29 2006, @11:54AM (#233597)
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      • Re:Jesus! by ProtestSinger (Score:1) Tuesday August 29 2006, @12:13PM
  • I don't think the Morrissey-Diana link is at all profetic. The Queen, who has tormented Diana until nearly her death, has constantly been a target of Morrissey's antagonism against let's say a modern sort of imperialism. Margaret Tatcher, as we all know, is another target in The Queen Is Dead, and the Frankly correlation to a medieval king's name is just pushing beyond the reasonable here. Anyway, it may well be that Morrissey had the intent with TQID to attack the basis of Enlish royalty, which probably stemed from the fact that he experienced life in the skin of a poor Manchester boy who was the son of Irish immigrants. But that does not mean he had some surnatural connection with Lady Diana. The statement that he was mystically forseeing her death... he was only saying he had seen this kind of "fatal fame" before!

    So, Diana dies in August, Morrissey launches Malajusted in August, Alma Matters bears the same name as the underpass Diana died in...how does that signify mystical connection? Why should it mean mystical connection?

    Next thing you might be telling us is that Morrissey was abducted by extra-terrestrials, because he wrote "I Know It's Gonna Happen Someday" and "Tomorrow" (will I still be human) or that he has psychic powers because he once sang "Ouija Board, Ouija Board".

    You have just qualifed to work for the UFO magazines in the tabloid section of your nearest supermarket. (Just don't say you read a Moz song in which he said he'd feel more fullfilled making cards with the mentally ill) ;)
    Mrs. Woolf -- Tuesday August 29 2006, @11:48AM (#233596)
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  • UFO-style insanity aside, let's not overlook the fact that this is a great piece of Smiths scholarship. The bit about "Never Had No One Ever" and the Bible is wonderful.

    I salute the author!

    -- Worm
    Anonymous -- Tuesday August 29 2006, @12:03PM (#233598)
  • Revenge of the daft
    stepchild -- Tuesday August 29 2006, @12:28PM (#233615)
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    Oi!Oi!Oi!
  • Ridiculous (Score:1, Insightful)

    You can connect the dots of anything in the universe with any other thing in the universe about a hundred different ways - provided you have a vivid imagination; you twist and stretch the facts to fit your warped, absurd theories; and you don't mind wasting your time, your mind, & your life to advocate silly non-sense that no sane person would ever take seriously. I wonder if the person who wrote this actually believes it or if they're just having a go. Those pathetic conspiracy theorists must love this rubbish. Maybe I'm too harsh, but this kind of foolishness never brings anything good into the world.

    - Truer Poetry
    Anonymous -- Tuesday August 29 2006, @12:31PM (#233616)
  • reveals the harrowing heartbreak of the confused life of master kids tv puppeteer, Rod Hull. Accept Yourself, for instance, is a reference to his trusy sidekick Emu. Back To The Old House makes startling references to the Pink Windmill and Please, Please, Please...which is the heart-rending finale of this album is about Rod's yearning to tune his TV in to watch Man United...as the final chords sound out, you can picture the poor bastard losing his footing, falling off the roof and going through the fucking greenhouse.
    I'll give you more news when the site is up and running:)
    Anonymous -- Tuesday August 29 2006, @12:34PM (#233618)
  • The Jimi Hendrix - John Major phenomenon : they have everything in common except for the colour, the talent, the hair, their background, the OD story and the fact that one is alive and the other one dead. Well, even that last point is quite arguable, isn't it ?
    Anonymous -- Tuesday August 29 2006, @12:36PM (#233620)
  • The Diana - Morrissey site is a wonder of the modern age so shut your doubtful traps.

    I have more evidence about Morrissey being involved in the slag that was Diana's death. If you read the 2002 interview he did with Lynn Barber in The Observer Magazine you will hear him say, on the subject of appealing to Tony Blair and The Queen about the Joyce case "Tony Blair didn't want to know, the Queen was very nice" (or words to that effect, I'd have to dig out the interview again.)

    Of course the Queen was nice! She hated the woman and was delighted that Moz was involved in some odd way.

    So put that in your pipe and smoke it.

    Old Joke;

    Q: Why did Diana cross the road?

    A: Momentum.

  • LOL so you're still flogging that dead horse then(pardon the pun)
    you need locking up.
    Anonymous -- Tuesday August 29 2006, @01:07PM (#233628)
  • ...but Nostradamus he ain't. Well done for all your research though, it's taught me some things I didn't know about the album.
    I received an email recently about all the 'spooky' numerical links to 9/11, in essence it's just the same sort of thing; our lives are built on numbers, science, repetition and historical / cultural reference points. Morrissey is a well-read, cultured chap with a wealth of information in his songs, it's not too far fetched to believe that the coincindences you've discovered are just that ... coincidences. I know Morrissey inspires this sort of religious / mystical zeal (and incomprehensibly so does Diana) but despite the horoscope reading, religious part of me wanting to believe that I was destined to find him, because I love everything he loves, or I think the things he thinks, or events in my life have echoed events in his, it's all just down to the fact that people really aren't as unique as they think they are. You can link every person in the world if you try hard enough, but if there's a god, he has better things to do than connect a pop star to a princess via the hysterical media juggernaut that's been rolling since her death. (and yes, I realise believing in an omnipotent, invisible force does make me somthing of a hypocrite, but they said the same of Newton at first).
    If there is a Diana related conspiracy it's that the royals had her bumped off (and that I can believe, as they're as corrupt and conniving as a pack of wolves at a sheep shearing convention). But, unless it was murder, yourself, Mr Al Fayed and several other Daily Mail readers should really concentrate on moving on with your lives.
    However, hats off to this 'story' for inspiring the genius post above about Rod Hull. I know we shouldn't laugh at another's misfortune but ...
    Mozzersgirl -- Tuesday August 29 2006, @01:40PM (#233642)
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  • Brilliant! I really enjoyed reading that, and the bit about the 13th words on either side was good.

    I really do wonder though- exactly how long must that have taken to work out?!
    Wilde is on my side -- Tuesday August 29 2006, @02:03PM (#233651)
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    I am the meek, I am the righteous, I am the Morrissey fan.
    • Re:Clever... by Hello Indie (Score:0) Saturday September 02 2006, @08:43AM
      • Re:Clever... by Hello Indie (Score:1) Saturday September 02 2006, @01:49PM
  • This reminds me of a walking tour of Bath I did last year conducted by an actor who knew the town intimately, but who warned everyone at the beginning to leave if they expected all the stories to be true. He had organised bizarrely costumed characters to pop up along the route to back up his tall tales, mixed in with totally authentic facts. It's an entertaining, well-presented and thoroughly-researched scenario, worked around a fair few coincidences!
    goinghome -- Tuesday August 29 2006, @02:32PM (#233656)
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  • http://img183.imageshack.us/img183/9082/mozcomesou the3.jpg [imageshack.us]

    From Times & Star (West Cumberland)
    Anonymous -- Tuesday August 29 2006, @05:54PM (#233676)
  • Dont listen to the hate mongers, its a brilliant, creative, imaginative phenomenon that youve dreamed up

    one word:

    REFRESHING
    giant -- Tuesday August 29 2006, @06:15PM (#233677)
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  • I respectfully offer this challenge to all those who doubt that THE DIANA-MORRISSEY PHENOMENON is a proven miracle:

    Choose other artists and other events and see if you can come close to duplicating the prophetic nature of THE DIANA-MORRISSEY PHENOMENON. After you spend a few days trying in vain you’ll develop a proper appreciation for the uniqueness of THE DIANA-MORRISSEY PHENOMENON. Just look at the number of clues, their location and their precision! You can even throw out the ten weakest clues if you like; it makes no difference. You’ll still have more than enough to constitute a miracle!

    If you’re not willing to take this challenge then you’re not really qualified to give authoritative criticism of THE DIANA-MORRISSEY PHENOMENON. Nonetheless, I encourage you to express your doubts because you will be helping me determine how to argue my case should I ever get the chance to present it to the mainstream media. That is my goal!
    www.dianamystery.com -- Tuesday August 29 2006, @07:57PM (#233685)
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  • This is all such old new, why is David T bothering to print this on the site again.

    Anyways when I spoke to Mr. Alice (who I am somewhat embarassed to admit lives in the city I was born and raised myself) I asked him very clearly... OK so lets say that all of this is absolutely true "what is the point". The response from him was that it ultimately reveals a very secret message to humanity from a group that he can't speak about, or reveal who they are. And then have gave me a test which he said if I passed he would tell me the secret. He asked me if I could give all of my money to one cause what would it be. I told him, (can't recall my answer) and then he said he couldn't tell me anything more because I didn't have the same passion as he has.

    I believe this also tied into his answer when I asked why he's the one who received all this information, and he said because of the passion he has (I think those were the words).

    It was all a very bizarre chain of emails but ones I recall so vividly even though they happened maybe 5 years ago. In the end the truth is, that regardless of what we believe I can tell you that Mr. Alice is 100% absolutely convinced that this Diana-Morrissey phenomenon, if everyone chose to listen to him, would solve a great deal of the world's problems and he feels we would all be all the better off for it. There isn't any malice intended by him. He really does believe that this is the truth.

    So I guess I feel sorry for the guy in a way partly because he holds his beliefs so strong, and second because he is so absolutely conflicted and torn on how to go about spreading all the things he feels he needs to tell everybody, considering that he doesn't feel he can trust anyone.

    I honestly did try to help this guy out, just as a human being, because if you talk to him, you can see how messed up he is by all this stuff he has gotten into.

    So in the end, I guess the point of this message is. Maybe you can help this guy where I couldn't. He really is reaching out, for something or someone... it wasn't me, but... maybe it's you.

    And if not, well then maybe this is just his cross to bear alone and he just needs the intestinal fortitude to get on with it, or to let it go.
    Anonymous -- Tuesday August 29 2006, @08:32PM (#233687)
  • a fiction with taste inside. always amazed me before. heaven knows this site is just like a Da Vinci Code book.
    Peter Marr -- Tuesday August 29 2006, @10:18PM (#233692)
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  • Is he American? Suppose he'd have to be...

    Anonymous -- Wednesday August 30 2006, @01:13AM (#233701)
  • The authors have overlooked Morrissey's 'message' locked in the track listing: "Diana Wary MI6 Devil Men".

    1. queen (I)s (D)ead
    2. fr(A)(N)kly mr sh(A)nkly
    3 i kno(W) it's over
    4. never h(A)d no one eve(R)
    5. cemetr(Y) gates
    (6). b(I)g(M)outh strikes again
    7. boy with the thorn in his si(D)(E)
    8. (V)(I)car in a tu tu
    9. there is a (L)ight that never goes out
    10. so(M)e girls ar(E) bigger tha(N) others

    Students of "The Bible Code" will not be surprised to see that Morrissey has wittily encoded his prophecies in a similar way to the code within the bible. Further reference: Michael Drosnin's book "The Bible Code" which outlines the scientific proof behind the existence of a code in the bible.
    Auric Goldfinger -- Wednesday August 30 2006, @08:04AM (#233720)
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  • There's David T who runs this site.
    Then David A who runs www.smithstorrents.co.uk

    And this David running the Diana site.

    Anyway.

    I've always been a fan of the old Diana site. It's nice to see it get an update.
    I don't care what anybody says, some of those coincidences are truly remarkable!
    It's a riveting read!
    dallow_bg <[email protected]> -- Wednesday August 30 2006, @09:59AM (#233728)
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  • Even though they are all just coincidences, it is amazing to see all these connections. It is also very weird how this person took the time and effort to find these facts and opinions.
    shane sarabia <[email protected]> -- Wednesday August 30 2006, @10:36AM (#233729)
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  • hahahaha!!!!!
    bmaull -- Wednesday August 30 2006, @10:55AM (#233730)
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  • seriously mate, if you've come off the medication you need to start again.
    If your seeing hidden messages in "Frankly Mr Shankly" or "Some girls are bigger than others" then you need less access to the internet and more access to a rubber room and a straitjacket.
    Anonymous -- Thursday August 31 2006, @04:46AM (#233831)
    • Well. by Hello Indie (Score:1) Thursday August 31 2006, @01:04PM
      • Re:Well. by goinghome (Score:1) Thursday August 31 2006, @02:17PM
        • Re:Well. by Hello Indie (Score:1) Friday September 01 2006, @03:49AM
  • This research seems to be a very respectable tribute to Moz, maybe it can fill that dark part of him that some people have always felt, it reminds me, in a less intense way, the clues that made people believe in Paul McCartney death in the 60s. Is a good work, so please don´t be so rude.
    NovemberJesus -- Thursday August 31 2006, @10:09PM (#233908)
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    ...maybe I'll even arrive?
  • the idiots on here who are dismissing it all out of hand so easily are the same people who think blair and bush are going to defend them from the evil enemies...in other words, they only believe one set of facts, the 'official' line, and anything that doesn't fit it perfectly they have to dismiss out of hand because their fragile little existence is somehow based on their sad notions about their life, and if they dared to question any of it their pathetic house of cards would fall down and they would realise daddy blair isn't really there to help them.

    this website has some fantastic and very amazing information, regardless of whether you believe morrissey intentionally planned on telling diana's story. some of the clues are a bit weak, yes, but overall i think it does raise some interesting questions. i thank the author of the site for taking the time to do all this, and remember that there's plenty of openminded people like myself who saw it and didnt bother leaving a comment on here but it gave them something to think about.

    "condemnation without investigation is the height of ignorance" - einstein
    Anonymous -- Friday September 01 2006, @07:05AM (#233928)
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