Right so does Tom McRae hate The Smiths? hates Morrissey but loves Marr?, and Morrissey love The Beatles. ..... right.

this only confirms my belief in the mystic powers of Morrissey's voice. When I first heard it I immediatley was struck with the feeling of: "let me find out where that divine sound is coming from, and make love to him!" (and didn't Johnny Marr say back then that all Morrissey really needed to cure his moodiness was a good lay?) My feelings about Morrissey's voice are the polar opposite of Tom McRae's. But I find it intriguing that the magnetisim I hear in M's voice, is experienced by others as a repellent sound. That's downright fascinating. After all, Tony Wilson heard him early on and concluded there was nothing there! Ha! what an idiot!

one quick example of his appeal: I recently was driving down the road with my convertible top down here in my little nothern California burb, playing Morrissey of course. As I pulled up along side a car carrying a mother and 3 teenage girls, one girl squealed, "oh I love that singer's voice!" I turned up the volume for her a bit, as he spelled out "S-T-E-V-E-N" at the end of Ouija board. I got 4 appreciative smiles in return.

when you first hear that divine voice, you know in a second whether you love it or hate it. no debate, no debate, no debate.

Since it's shoved down our throat ALL the time how great they were/are. Now I won't be stupid enough to say they WEREN'T the best band of all time - from a songwriting perspective they're faultless. But they still say nothing to me about my life. (Though obviously nobody can argue with the likes of "In My Life" etc.) And he's talking rubbish anyway - The Beatles are completely sexless. Totally anaemic, even if the songs were brilliant.

And none of them could sing very well either - nor did they have the best players, not matching Marr. Fair enough if you don't like Moz's voice - it's not technically great, but neither was Lennon or McCartney. And Bob Dylan couldn't sing for shit - but him and The Beatles took the importance of crooning talent out of music. In short, voice isn't the point, even if it helps and certainly if you don't like a singer's voice it makes them more difficult to like and have to accquire a taste for them. He's certainly not the only one to hate The Smiths cause of Moz's moany voice, but I'm sure plenty hate The Beatles for the same reason - the hundreds of Beatles covers leave plenty of room for interpretation and show how great their songs actually are when done by far superior singers.

But I'd have to agree for once with that bitch Chloe Sevigny with her spot-on assesment of Sgt Pepper - there's no dirty sex with The Beatles, like you get with the raw rock n roll of The Stones - unless you count their early Hamburg stuff and later stuff. Not that theirs much dirty sex with The Smiths other than the filthy lyrics, but they cater to a different need anyway. Hmm.

It's a shame really, because I like Tom McRae and I always thought he'd be one to love The Smiths; his songs seem heavily influenced by Morrissey's lyrics. Indeed, McRae uses his voice in a similar way to Morrissey, spanning a range that sometimes sounds positively female, albeit McRae's voice is much more fragile.
However, I suppose we can't berate him for an opinion, after all, he acknowledged the undisputed fact (or what should be an undisputed fact) that Mozzer's lyrics are pure gold.
As people have said, it's the voice that divides people; it drives my dad up the wall and my friend's usually mild mannered boyfriend curses the day I took her to see Moz ... he'll leave the room rather than listen to the man.

Once again, we have an example of someone who name-drops Morrissey or the Smiths seemingly to raise their status. The question was about the Beatles! And the next thing out of his mouth is "I don't like the Smiths?" He turned a question about the Beatles into a rant about how he doesn't like the Smiths or Morrissey but likes Johnny Marr, blah blah blah. It's so transparent. Now for a little petty fun: Click on the "Tom McRae" link--check out his hair! It's really bad, like a combination Bon Jovi shag and proto-mullet. If you're a mediocre singer-songwriter, you should probably not be opening yourself up for ridicule by dissing the beloved Moz, but whatever. Who cares what he thinks, really? Certainly not Morrissey!

Who or what the f is Tom McRae?

And as for Della and Binnie, I would have been a filling in their sandwich.

I dunno what to do tonight...should I watch the Liverpool game or watch the next exciting instalment of Return Of The Mitchell Bros.

Or theres tiddlywinks on Eurosport

BLUEBIRDS

Wasn't it Joe Strummer who wrote
"now don't look to us
Phoney Beatlemania has bitten the dust?"
Maybe somebody should tell this Mcreap gadgie.

The Beatles and The Smiths are legends. They are Top of the List.

I hate to repeat the obvious, but who the f***
is Tom McRae when he's at home.

I agree with the other geezer.

Babyshambles' "Down In Albion" is a brilliant album.

Tom McCrae couldn't have done better.

Buy it on the 14th November.

I never liked Cake! Oh, wait... that was John McRae. Whatever.