posted by davidt on Monday February 21 2005, @12:00PM
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PETA President and Co-Founder Ingrid Newkirk Signs her Book "Making Kind Choices" - 02/18/2005 - Westwood Borders, Los Angeles, California

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  • Someone's had a good rest - what absolutely gorgeous pictures they are! Great to see him energetically out on the move, making that all-important difference.
    Thanks!
    goinghome -- Monday February 21 2005, @12:11PM (#151913)
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  • Peta2 (Score:1, Informative)

    Here's a great interview about Morrissey's vegetarianism:

    http://www.peta2.com/ot/o-shakemoz.html
    Anonymous -- Monday February 21 2005, @12:19PM (#151917)
    • Re:Peta2 by goinghome (Score:1) Monday February 21 2005, @02:58PM
  • He looks proud to endorse/lend his support to such a quality product. Well that is the way I read it and it has sold a copy to me!

    I wonder if this will turn into a carnivore v vegetarian v vegan v don’t wear animal products debate?
    Meatfreecotter -- Monday February 21 2005, @12:21PM (#151918)
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  • moz really is looking superb these days
    jp.5.22 -- Monday February 21 2005, @12:29PM (#151919)
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  • is that morrisseys serious face? if so i like it! how does one go about downloading these pictures?
    Anonymous -- Monday February 21 2005, @01:10PM (#151923)
  • Other great photos (Score:2, Informative)

    The FilmMagic site has loads of fantastic Morrissey shots, most in concert, but some at events. Best of all are the ones of him posing with 'Cloe The Turkey'.

    Just type Morrissey into their search box to the left when you visit the site.
  • http://www.manchesteronline.co.uk/news/s/146/146910_vegetarian_diet_can_damage_c hildren.html
    Anonymous -- Monday February 21 2005, @03:49PM (#151953)
    • Re:Vegan Is Murder?? by Anonymous (Score:0) Monday February 21 2005, @05:24PM
      • Re:Vegan Is Murder?? by Anonymous (Score:0) Tuesday February 22 2005, @04:44AM
      • Why... by Anonymous (Score:0) Tuesday February 22 2005, @03:27PM
        • Re:Why... by Anonymous (Score:0) Tuesday February 22 2005, @06:00PM
        • Re:Why... by kissmyshades (Score:1) Wednesday February 23 2005, @02:46AM
          • Re:Why... by Cazza (Score:1) Wednesday February 23 2005, @05:00AM
  • Whether to support Morrissey OR PETA OR Morrissey's support of PETA, you will find this postcard available on PETA's website.
    http://www.petacatalog.org/prodinfo.asp?number=STU182&variation=&aitem=1&mitem=1

    PETA reps were peacefully handing these out in front of the entrance to Alice Radio's Now & Zen in SF, Sept 2004.
    Suswa -- Monday February 21 2005, @05:02PM (#151962)
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  • Do you have to register with the site in order to click on the pictures?
    Anonymous -- Monday February 21 2005, @05:22PM (#151963)
  • To be in the presence of Ingrid and Moz at the same time would cause me to go into coronary arrest. Cheers to the fact that two of the worlds greatest minds found each other on this lonely planet of man the destroyer.
    No one has influenced my eating and cruelty free living habits more than Ingrid and no one has influenced me as a singer songwriter more than Morrissey. Let me not mince words and say that you can find the future of the evolved human being in these two. Let's pray I am not wrong and instead we end up with a bunch of George W.'s murdering everything in their site.
    MOZ IS GOD -- Monday February 21 2005, @05:59PM (#151966)
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    • Re:Oh my my my by Eric Hartman (Score:1) Tuesday February 22 2005, @04:48AM
      • Re:Oh my my my by goinghome (Score:1) Tuesday February 22 2005, @04:01PM
        • Re:Oh my my my by J. Razor (Score:1) Wednesday February 23 2005, @01:12PM
          • Re:Oh my my my by goinghome (Score:1) Thursday February 24 2005, @09:38AM
  • Oh I cn just imagine If this women had never Heard Of Our Dear Morrissey , Well I certainly am sure she went out to listen to Morrissey's Music...:)
    So Cool..
    I love the Pictures..
    Thank You..
    Marisela

    LOL Can you Imagine her listening to
    We hate if when Our Friends Become sucessful;)**
    So Cool
    Oh Its really laughable***
    :)
    Marisela -- Monday February 21 2005, @06:59PM (#151970)
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  • Is anyone a member of that site or someone who managed to save the full sized pictures?
    Just a couple of those will do, please!

    I would really appreciate it, just send it to my e-mail, post on tynipic, anything!
    I really liked the pics.

    Hurray for PETA.
    lg -- Monday February 21 2005, @10:02PM (#151978)
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    Friendship is the Love that never dies.
  • Is he grim looking, or what? Keep on keeping on PETA fascists!
    Opolus -- Tuesday February 22 2005, @01:04AM (#151984)
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    "Slit my eyes, for they'll remember..."
  • Our boy looks none too thrilled to have been photographed at this event. Heh, in most of the pics he looks like he is barely able to mask his disgust at the cameraman.
    Salavatin' Army -- Tuesday February 22 2005, @10:20AM (#152042)
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    I'm unsure who is the father of my baby. After all, when you eat a can of beans you cant be sure which one made you fart
  • The PETA folk have recently made a deal with the devil -- the fashion industry -- in New York. It gives them access to the shows so they can "educate" people and they promised not to cause anymore scenes. They have even done some things where fur is present but say it's all about showing how ugly it is. But still, for some access and ability to schmooze with models and celebs, they've sold out.
    Jackosuede -- Tuesday February 22 2005, @10:23AM (#152044)
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  • you're all nuts (Score:1, Insightful)

    i see both sides of this vegetarian/carnivore debate and i think it's ridiculous. neither one of you is going to be switching sides any time soon so stop trying to convert each other. leave everyone alone and stop forcing your opinions down everyone else's throats. you want to eat meat fine, you don't want to eat meat, also fine. leave it at that. if your right and 1 side of this is not a healthy way to live, then take comfort in the fact that the other side will die off eventually and you'll be the only ones left.
    Anonymous -- Tuesday February 22 2005, @10:35AM (#152046)
  • How do you enlarge them?
    Anonymous -- Tuesday February 22 2005, @10:30PM (#152098)
    • Re:Pictures by kissmyshades (Score:1) Wednesday February 23 2005, @06:42AM
      • Re:Pictures by Anonymous (Score:0) Wednesday February 23 2005, @05:11PM
  • This also being the organisation patronised by Julia, that most constant Moz fan, I wondered if she'd surfaced at all since the tour ended?
    Let's hope she's keeping well anyway.
    Anonymous -- Wednesday February 23 2005, @09:40AM (#152130)
  • Alright already! So some of us eat meat and some of us do not. I'm sorry but if you judge people by what they eat that's really self-righteous. Why fight over it, it's really not worth the argument... It's like arguing politics, nobody's ever going to win.
    Until_I_Leave -- Thursday February 24 2005, @07:34PM (#152311)
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  • Much as I love Morrissey, I do think he tends to ram this thing down people's throats. No one wants to see animals mistreated and I would never be able to slaughter any animal myself. It's not something I'm ever so comfortable with. I just eat meat becaue I alway's have and I like the taste. As soon as you turn it into an issue you have 'good' and 'bad' people depending on your outlook. People don't like being labelled as 'bad' for something they've perhaps never even given much thought to before. Yes, I eat meat, but being a carnivore does not sum up who I am.
    firstodie -- Friday February 25 2005, @08:37AM (#152346)
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  • What e-mail, you self-righteous wacko?
    Anonymous -- Monday February 21 2005, @01:25PM (#151927)
  • Maybe if you tried educating yourself & actually read the articles & watched the films on the PETA website then you'd have a different stance on it. The opposition to the mistreatment of animals isn't a 'bandwagon' that you can jump on.

    Please actually read in to it before you go making comments like this.
    Keely -- Monday February 21 2005, @01:40PM (#151932)
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  • Hahaha... email...that's cute!
    Anonymous -- Monday February 21 2005, @02:11PM (#151936)
  • You obviously have no idea what PETA's priorities are, and you clearly have not met "PETA people" (who are some of the most lovely, educated, energetic people I've ever had the pleasure of knowing). When you were refering to "annoying, self-righteous wackos", are you sure you weren't talking about our dear friends in Washington, D.C.?
    Anonymous -- Monday February 21 2005, @02:14PM (#151937)
  • PETA people are good people: you should get to know some of them.

    Caring about other living creatures isn't a fad or a 'bandwagon' that one can support when it suits: you either feel quite strongly, or you do not.

    Do you eat animals?
    Poppycocteau -- Monday February 21 2005, @02:54PM (#151943)
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    We are ugly but we have the music
  • Have you ever seen the film Office Space?

    Sounds like you have a bad case of the Mondays.

    Have you tried Camomile tea?
    Kenan -- Monday February 21 2005, @03:24PM (#151947)
    (User #13621 Info)
  • As a vegetarian of 10 yrs (and no, not remotely due to Morrissey's influence...though I'm proud of him for being one) and a member of PETA for even longer, I completely disagree that PETA supporters are "wacko." Wacko, darling, is to actually eat a dead carcass, or to contribute to the death of anything (or anyone) at all.

    I, as I'd presume of every other PETA supporter, support human rights as much as animal rights. However one must remember that while people can defend, stand up for and help themselves, animals cannot.

    Animals rely solely on the intelligence, compassion and good judgment of humanity which sadly tends to be a scarce commodity (yourself seemingly a prime example, my little anonymous one.)

    Stop bitching now, okay? Thanks so much.
    Amy Beth <[email protected]> -- Monday February 21 2005, @03:53PM (#151957)
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  • You certainly have your priorities right – well done! I have to say, yours was the wittiest, most objective and well-informed posting I’ve read in quite some time. Good on you for wearing your heart on your sleeve – something that’s all too rare these days, isn’t it? Brave man. Or is it woman! (one can never tell with anonymous).

    You are completely right to concern yourself with taking a random pot-shot at such a vast, faceless monolith like PETA who ruthlessly exploit people’s better natures; and equally right, if not more so, to defend that truly inspirational organisation KFC.

    By the way, some people might point out the glaring grammatical error in your final sentence –not me! No, seriously though, if you want to maintain your high level of credibility (and let’s face it – who doesn’t?) – a friendly word of advice: When writing something such as, I don’t know, for argument’s sake let’s take the first clause of this sentence: “I'm sure people who respond to this e-mail harshly are either PETA wannabees or …” then after the conjuction (which is ‘or’ – but why am I telling you – you’re the expert!) you need another noun.

    Let me give you an example: “I'm sure people who respond to this e-mail harshly are either PETA wannabees or fans of Morrissey…”. See? Makes sense, doesn’t it?

    Now, if you look at the original version of that sentence it reads, “I'm sure people who respond to this e-mail harshly are either PETA wannabees or JUMP …” (sorry - my capitals!!!). You can see the problem, can’t you? Jump is a verb and verbs don’t really work as the second half of an “either/or” when the first one is a noun, no matter how much you might want them too!

    If we apply your rule, we might end up with, just thinking randomly: “The person who wrote the anonymous post was either a complete, fucking, ignorant, humorless, imbecile or die in a fire and give us all a good laugh”. See my point?

    You’ve got to be grammatical if you want people to take you seriously.

    Go tell it to Colonel Sanders! Mine’s a bucket of bread-coated limbs!
    kissmyshades -- Monday February 21 2005, @04:27PM (#151959)
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  • Just about every creature on this earth likes a bit of meat. flies, dogs, ants, sharks and beetles will all have a go at it given the chance.
    we have meat-eating teeth, just have a look in the mirror at your incisors.
    meat is GOOD.
    salad is murder.
    Anonymous -- Tuesday February 22 2005, @07:41AM (#152021)
  • I knew I would get a lot of responses from this post. You are so predictable. As for insulting how I worded my post, its great that your only defense is to argue HOW I write and not WHAT I write...
    Anonymous -- Tuesday February 22 2005, @12:41PM (#152061)
  • pls. don't score this comment as Troll!
    Anonymous -- Tuesday February 22 2005, @02:23PM (#152070)
  • Dear Peta,

    Humans don't have to eat meat...they weren't made for that, and no harm will come if they don't.

    signed,

    Meningitis

    I don't believe all PETAs are crazy, annoying and self-righteous...but alot of them are. Remember: this is the same group who sent that fax over to Siegfried and Roy that they got what they deserved for caging wild tigers, whilst Roy was fighting for his life and considered to have one foot in the grave and the other on a banana peel.

    Look, say what you want about PETA and people who don't eat meat. In a sense, we need groups like PETA to keep the balance. Even if we choose not to lead their lifesyle, they offer some education to the alternatives of living, and the brutality that sick companies like KFC and IAMS take advantage of. It's like those religious nuts that either come knocking on your door at 5 in the morning, or the ones that recite the bible when all you were doing was asking for a bus token. Few people like to be preached to, no matter what the subject matter is, but it's worthwhile to keep an open mind...even if the manner in which the message is delivered is harsh, extreme, or annoying.

    Having said that, PETA are wackos. Check that, i'd say about 80% are. Some of what they do is uncalled for and abhorrent. But that doesn't mean they're messages about animal cruelty should go unnoticed.

    OUT
    Jim Rome -- Tuesday February 22 2005, @05:58PM (#152088)
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    ...and how?
  • you are a vile little git aren't you?
    just as you entitled to your viewpoint millions of meat eaters are entitiled to theirs. and i suspect not all of them are cunts, unlike you.
    bingol -- Wednesday February 23 2005, @09:23AM (#152128)
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  • my biggest problem with them is that they pimp out their celebrity ties to the point of making it look like it's an elite hollywood social club.

    $10 says they invited moz to the signing just so they could have a celebrity face to photograph along with the book.
    suzanne -- Wednesday February 23 2005, @10:49AM (#152137)
    (User #36 Info)
    I scare dead people.
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