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More EMI unreleased tracks in the archive?
posted by davidt on Wednesday February 09 2005, @09:00AM

 An anonymous person writes:

On clearing out some stuff recently, I came across some email correspondence from EMI UK regarding possible unreleased tracks to use on the Viva Hate anniversary edition. As you know the proposed 'Striptease' etc never happened but thought you may be interested in the list of tracks that were in EMI's archive at the time.

Some have of course been released since and others we already know about but there are a few interesting titles that it would be good to find more info on.

The email reads as follows:
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"With regards to any other unreleased tracks I've compiled a list of odd titles that we have in mixed format, there are others on multi but I don't suppose you would be looking to add the cost of mixing to the project.

Bed Took Fire
Belfast
Cage Of Marriage
Chainsaw
Dennis Cockall Song
Experiment
Fantastic Bird
Genius
Glass Menagerie
Oh Well I'll Never Learn
One of Our Own
Please Help ThHe Cause Against Loneliness
Safe Warm Lancashire Home
Sisterama
Stay As You Are

Most of these will just be working titles for released tracks, there may also be a couple that were released but we don't have any production tape for them."
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Hope this is of interest and look forward to any more information on these songs.

 
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    Stay As You Are (Score:1, Interesting)
    I recently got a version of 'Stay As You Are'. (thanks uncleskinny)

    It's hard to hear Morrissey's vocals, they sound very distant, but the music is very beautiful. Would fit nicely into Vauxhall & I.
    dallow_bg <{brainboy77} {at} {aol.com}> -- Wednesday February 09 2005, @09:19AM (#150272)
    (User #10559 Info | http://www.dolefulorange.com/ )
     "All the people I like are those that are dead."
    Belfast (Score:1)
    I'd be really interested in hearing Belfast, or even getting lyrics from the song. Is anything of the sort available? Thanks in advance for any information.
    damien dixon -- Wednesday February 09 2005, @09:21AM (#150273)
    (User #9996 Info)
    • Re:Belfast by Anonymous (Score:0) Wednesday February 09 2005, @09:31AM
      • Re:Belfast by Mickey Vegas (Score:1) Wednesday February 09 2005, @10:50AM
        • Re:Belfast by Anonymous (Score:0) Wednesday February 09 2005, @02:34PM
        Oh Well (Score:1, Informative)
        Oh Well, I'll Never learn is of cause not so rare as it was on the MCD of Sudehead.

        Stay As You Are and Fantastic (or Faboulous) Bird were rumoured before.

        Sisterama - sound to me like Sister I'm A (Poet), maybe just an early take.

        Bed Took Fire and Please Help are widly known .Mp3's.

        But the rest - I'd love to hear!!
        Stefan Krix -- Wednesday February 09 2005, @09:36AM (#150280)
        (User #357 Info | http://www.krix-s.de/morrissey.htm )
        • Re:Oh Well by damien dixon (Score:0) Wednesday February 09 2005, @09:47AM
        • Re:Oh Well by Anonymous (Score:0) Wednesday February 09 2005, @01:42PM
          Chainsaw (Score:0)
          The Ramones released a song on their debut album entitled 'Chainsaw'. I doubt Mozzer would cover this song and wonder if Chainsaw was a working title for what eventually became Vauxhall & I's closer 'Speedway'? Afterall, 'Speedway' features the sound of a revving chainsaw...
          Anonymous -- Wednesday February 09 2005, @09:53AM (#150282)
          • Re:Chainsaw by borntohang1968 (Score:1) Thursday February 10 2005, @01:41AM
            • Re:Chainsaw by dallow_bg (Score:1) Thursday February 10 2005, @08:12AM
              • Re:Chainsaw by Anonymous (Score:0) Friday February 11 2005, @01:48AM
            stay as you are (Score:1)
            i got this from uncle skinny as well. love the melody but wish you could hear the vocals.
            jp.5.22 -- Wednesday February 09 2005, @09:59AM (#150287)
            (User #12669 Info)
              So many... (Score:1)
              There are enough there to make it a REAL RARITIES compilation! EMI, get on it!
              palare -- Wednesday February 09 2005, @10:17AM (#150295)
              (User #152 Info | http://worldofabrahan.com/ )
               where the world's ugliest boy became what you see...
                "One of our own" (Score:1)
                sounds like a great title.

                Beautifully ambiguous.
                carnal artist -- Wednesday February 09 2005, @10:21AM (#150297)
                (User #7076 Info)
                  Bed Took Fire (Score:1)
                  Isn't Bed Took Fire just an early version of At Amber?
                  mspendl828 <{spring_heeled_jim} {at} {hotmail.com}> -- Wednesday February 09 2005, @10:46AM (#150304)
                  (User #11702 Info)
                   I offered love and it was not required... what else can I do?
                  Possibility of posting mp3s here (Score:1)
                  Hey David (I think you run this)
                  Is there anyway of posting some of this unreleased stuff here
                  stop it stop it stop -- Wednesday February 09 2005, @10:49AM (#150308)
                  (User #13646 Info)
                    Stay As You Are mp3 link (Score:1, Informative)
                    http://s24.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1PQB50XEVIQ5V1NFLHITJCR82E

                    Here you go everyone.
                    dallow_bg <{brainboy77} {at} {aol.com}> -- Wednesday February 09 2005, @11:24AM (#150332)
                    (User #10559 Info | http://www.dolefulorange.com/ )
                     "All the people I like are those that are dead."
                    Songs Personified (Score:1)
                    Dear EMI,

                    Don't forget about us!

                    Sincerely,

                    A Girl I Used To Know, Me Satisfied, Take Us The Way We Are, Born To Hang, My Name Is Mortimer, November The 2nd, Oh Phoney, Kitt, I Know Very Well How I Got My Note Wrong, Harry Rag, My Insatiable One, Drive In Saturday, Striptease With A Difference, Piccadilly Palare (Extended), I Want A Boy For My Birthday, Summer Nights, and 'The Sha La La Song'

                    There. I think I covered it all. Are there any songs I left out??? Does anyone have Michael Legge's number? I'm sure he has more tracks that he's been holding out on.
                    Jim Rome -- Wednesday February 09 2005, @11:25AM (#150333)
                    (User #720 Info | http://www.jimrome.com/ )
                     ...and how?
                    Please Help The Cause (Score:1)
                    wasn't "Please Help The Cause Against Loneliness" the song Morrissey wrote for Sandie Shaw? I think so.
                    MOritZ -- Wednesday February 09 2005, @11:57AM (#150348)
                    (User #9321 Info)
                    New Song "Stay As You Are" (Score:0)
                    This song is in the "Seasick, Yet Still Docked" vein. Very nice music but can't hear the vocal or make our many words. But my gut says 100% Moz.
                    Anonymous -- Wednesday February 09 2005, @12:12PM (#150352)
                    Please Help The Cause Against Loneliness... (Score:1)
                    Please Help The Cause Against Loneliness...one of the tracks listed as an unreleased tune for Viva Hate is actually a song who's lyrics were written by Morrissey for Sandie Shaw. Did Morrissey write the music? I haven't got a clue. But the song is available as a B-side to a single released by Sandie Shaw. Sorry, don't know the name of that single, but I've heard the song...it's quaint and lovely. Cheers.
                    javier31 -- Wednesday February 09 2005, @01:02PM (#150368)
                    (User #13647 Info)
                    Viva Hate Anniversary Edition (Score:1)
                    There are so many Vile "Anniversary editions" being released for other bands. Please Bring out the Moz one with extra tracks! "Viva Hate" is a SEMINAL important album. Go on, cash it in - I don't care!
                    seb71 -- Wednesday February 09 2005, @01:08PM (#150370)
                    (User #13191 Info)
                      Is there any Morrissey/ The Smiths on Minidisc? (Score:1)
                      I know I am a sad collector but does anyone know if any Morrissey or The Smiths was actually releasead on Minidisc? I thought that at least "Vauxhall" could have been released as MD but I've never come across any. "Vauxhall" came out at the time when the Minidisc was "the" thing. Please let me know. I still like my Minidiscs although it's a forgotten format. Thanks!
                      seb71 -- Wednesday February 09 2005, @01:17PM (#150375)
                      (User #13191 Info)
                      "Lifeguard On Duty" (Score:1)
                      Interestingly, there is no mention of "Lifeguard On Duty," the homoerotic ditty which Simon Goddard notes as the very first song to be recorded for Viva Hate in his appendix to the latest edition of Songs That Saved Your Life. The chorus was "oh, lifeguard, please save me from life," or something similarly maudlin.

                      Cheers,

                      Jamie
                      Jamie <northpaw22@netzero.net> -- Wednesday February 09 2005, @02:38PM (#150389)
                      (User #48 Info)
                      Erm ... (Score:1)
                      Am I the only person who is wondering who 'Dennis Cockall' is?

                      I think that Sanctuary should gather all of these recordings, and amalgamate them into a proper compliation - including the original version of 'Picadilly Palare' - I think that the plaintive ending of' No Dad, I won't be home tomorrow' is the best part of the song.
                      Poppycocteau <celticcurls_4@hotmail.com> -- Wednesday February 09 2005, @04:36PM (#150409)
                      (User #9489 Info)
                       We are ugly but we have the music
                      • Re:Erm ... by Anonymous (Score:0) Thursday February 10 2005, @03:05AM
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                              • Re:Erm ... by Kenan (Score:1) Thursday February 10 2005, @11:56AM
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                                I want a boy for my birthday (Score:0)
                                Does anyone have a copy of "I want a boy for my birthday"?
                                Anonymous -- Wednesday February 09 2005, @04:46PM (#150410)
                                Doesn't have bootlegs of any of these songs? (Score:1)
                                I'm sure this article is mere rumor but it seems some people actually have heard or somehow possess these. I'd love to know how I can get them, any info would be appreciated.

                                I have "Oh Well I'll Never Learn" and "Sisterama" which likely the same a "Sister I'm a Poet"

                                Thanks.
                                VulgarEpiphany -- Wednesday February 09 2005, @05:35PM (#150419)
                                (User #12994 Info)
                                  EM (my) EYE (Score:0)
                                  As most everyone has pointed out, most songs on this list have already been sussed. Again, this is how these rumours start, small then explode. But most people on this list know better and are not so easily fooled. Chock it up to another slow news day.
                                  Anonymous -- Wednesday February 09 2005, @11:52PM (#150434)
                                    Velvelettes (Score:1)
                                    Does anyone know, or has anyone ever heard anything about The Smiths covering Needle In A Hastack at one point, probably at one of their early gigs? I have heard this rumour several times, and I am dying to know if it actually ever happened or not. There are no setlists available for quite a few of the gigs they did, when they first started playing.
                                    Sharron Needles -- Thursday February 10 2005, @12:08AM (#150436)
                                    (User #762 Info)
                                     Inside every adult male is a denied little boy -Nancy Friday
                                      Swapsys??? (Score:1)
                                      Ive got Oh Well I'll Never Learn and Please Help The Cause ....., anyone got anything different from the above list they might want to swap on MP3 format via E Mail???

                                      Cheers.
                                      borntohang1968 -- Thursday February 10 2005, @01:05AM (#150446)
                                      (User #13232 Info)
                                       older and wiser never applies to me
                                        and (Score:1)
                                        Also got No I Don't Speak Spanish and Melanie amongst others.
                                        borntohang1968 -- Thursday February 10 2005, @01:09AM (#150448)
                                        (User #13232 Info)
                                         older and wiser never applies to me
                                          Me again (Score:1)
                                          Sorry, don't want to add to the confusion Melanie is the same as A Girl I Used To Know, tragic tale of drug addiction!!
                                          borntohang1968 -- Thursday February 10 2005, @01:18AM (#150449)
                                          (User #13232 Info)
                                           older and wiser never applies to me
                                            Still here I'm afraid (Score:1)
                                            Got The Bed Took Fire as well, which is At Amber with what sounds like a squeaky violin in the background throughout the song.

                                            Just to silence the people who think all these songs are the figment of someones imagination.
                                            borntohang1968 -- Thursday February 10 2005, @01:26AM (#150450)
                                            (User #13232 Info)
                                             older and wiser never applies to me
                                              where can I find these rare mp3? (Score:0)
                                              CAn anyone help me where i can get these mp3s in the net? or anyone willing to share these with me?
                                              Thanks..:)
                                              ikyan98 -- Thursday February 10 2005, @02:42AM (#150458)
                                              (User #12540 Info)
                                              My rarities CD (Score:1)
                                              I could do a CD with

                                              A Girl I Used To Know (Melanie) hoax Moz

                                              Born To Hang

                                              His Latest Flame (Elvis)/ Rusholm Ruffians (live)

                                              Jack the Ripper (original studio version, lots of Moz panting!!)

                                              Maladjusted (Session on US radio)

                                              Nothing Rhymed (Live in Dublin- Gilbert O'Sullivan cover)

                                              Oh Well, I'll Never Learn

                                              Picadilly Palare (Extra Verse)

                                              Please Help The Cause ....

                                              Striptease With A Difference

                                              Such a Litttle Thing/ My Insatiable One (Suede cover live)

                                              The Bed Took Fire (At Amber)

                                              Trash (NY Dolls cover Live)

                                              Whats The World (James Cover Live)

                                              Will Never Marry (Extended version)

                                              Wonderful Woman (Demo)

                                              You Don't Speak spanish (Don't know if this is genuine or fake!!)

                                              Anyone interested??
                                              borntohang1968 -- Thursday February 10 2005, @04:58AM (#150476)
                                              (User #13232 Info)
                                               older and wiser never applies to me
                                              "There are people with problems..." (Score:1)
                                              Hopefully they'll finally release "Please help the cause..." decently, as the version I have is quite muffled, to say the least. Although the Sandie Shaw rendition is quite good anyway, Morrissey doing this song is sooo beautiful!!
                                              Opolus -- Thursday February 10 2005, @05:04AM (#150478)
                                              (User #5987 Info)
                                               "Slit my eyes, for they'll remember..."
                                                if theyre anything like (Score:0)
                                                those recent unreleased songs striptease please help the cause, oh phoney etc... they can stay where they are! i still have nightmares from the one time i listened to oh phoney!
                                                Anonymous -- Thursday February 10 2005, @06:04AM (#150489)
                                                No David hasn't been duped (Score:0)
                                                Just to set the record straight. It was me that furnished David with the list of 'unreleased' tracks in EMI's vaults. That is a completely genuine list compiled by the person responsible for putting together the Viva Hate anniversary edition. They were looking for addditional tracks for the bonus CD which in the end didn't materialise (I know why but won't post it on a n open forum).

                                                Yes some of these tracks have appeared since and others are already known by other names (as the email stated). No, I don't have all these tracks in my posssesion (sadly) otherwise I'd share them.

                                                As for EMI releasing them it would still have to be approved by Morrissey and I don't think it's likely despite his current high profile. But the list is 100% for real.
                                                Anonymous -- Thursday February 10 2005, @06:35AM (#150491)
                                                Belle and Sebastian? (Score:1)
                                                How Moz ever covered B&S or vice-versa? We know B&S is strongly influenced by The Smiths, is there anything out there? Do we even know what Moz thinks of b&s?
                                                Rogelio -- Thursday February 10 2005, @07:30PM (#150601)
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                                                Re:David gets duped again. (Score:0)
                                                With idiots like you on this board -- it really makes me wonder why David bothers with this site anymore.

                                                Suedehead
                                                Anonymous -- Wednesday February 09 2005, @01:07PM (#150369)
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                                                Re:David gets duped again. (Score:1)
                                                Jealous much?
                                                Nine Times Fine -- Wednesday February 09 2005, @01:11PM (#150373)
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                                                 for haven’t you me with you now?
                                                [ Parent ]
                                                  Re:David gets duped again. (Score:0)
                                                  You are clearly either:

                                                  A. Broken.

                                                  or...

                                                  B. Made from the same rancid, smelly, bile as that like-minded and unwanted village idiot.

                                                  Either way, just go fuck yourself won't you?
                                                  Anonymous -- Thursday February 10 2005, @12:39AM (#150442)
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