Who is issuing the lawsuit? Why is the suit for $50M while the claim is KROQ that made $14M from delaying the announcement. How will the fans who were allegedly defrauded be recompensed? I don't know what slam dunk means but it doesn't sound serious. It sounds more like a party game. More details please?

the "Morrissey Camp" probably thought it too be a good idea to say something due to Ian Browns announcement.....
i bet they would've waited until the very end to say something, thanks Ian.

Gee, I wonder why they haven't reported this breaking news on MorrisseyMusic?

But seriously, isn't this news as incendiary as the "Morrissey didn't pay his crew" news from ages ago. Moz's people will be crying foul soon - Jed Weizman will be saying cease and desist faster than Beligerant Ghoul can e-mail a Moz story to David.

Also, a mate of mine from Madrid went to Benicassim, which was also cancelled. What's become of that? Why isn't there a lawsuit there?

Are Americans sue happy opportunist? Or is this about more than money?

Oh also, I never went through with my plan of checking up on Alain -- for anyone who is curious. dunno... seems like a waste of a Saturday.

$14M in beer/food sales
$36M in tix sales
I hope this is true. someone needs to feel the hurt. the Zen and Now fest did the right thing by announcing this before hand and distributing refunds to whom ever felt cheated. KROQ waited for everyone to be inside the concert.

So does this mean no "FREE SHOW" for us ticketholders who sat in the sun for hours? I want my money back.

When fom all of the shows he has cancelled has he ever re-scheduled??? It may have been just something KROQ said in order to prevent somekind or riot at the venue. I don't believe there is any kind of lawsuit planned and I also don't think we should expect that the free concert will actually take place...

sounds like utter garbage!!!

$14m on beer and food sales. Someone ate all the pies didn’t they?!

the lawsuit does make a bit of sense though... the announcement was made in the middle of the day, and only once. of every time a kroq dj introduced another band (devo, franz ferdinand, etc etc), i kept expecting them to remind people that morrissey would not be playing, but they didn't.

there was one staff member down by the entrance for the orchestra (at least that i saw) holding a flyer saying that morrissey was ill and had canceled, but 5 minutes later, her sign was gone.

i kept expecting to see the flyers posted all around the venue, by the merch booth (who continued to sell morrissey merchandise), by the conscession stands... nothing.

$14 million in beer and food sales? if the crowd size was 20,000, that means people spent $700 each! i guess los angeles is more expensive than i thought!

So everyone there would have left if they heard Moz cancelled because they were only interested in seeing Morrissey? If that were the case, then they would have waited untill well after the anouncement was made here and on KROQ.com before leaving for the show because they would have been sure to arrive late to miss all the other bands.

...he stands to make a hell of a lot more $ than if he had actually played the show! Plus he gets to keep the merchandise $ from the sales at the venue.

I think the figures are inflated and I doubt that this is a winner of a case...they did notify the fans (timing is another matter) and if they honestly try to schedule a make-up concert or refund the tix then they've lived up to their deal. Sorry, but if they got word once people were in the pavillion, it's pretty difficult to give refunds at that point.

Still, this is probably the end of the line for KROQ+Moz

It's always amazing to me that in the "real world" of the record industry -- meaning the vacuous spit bubble of Briney, 50 Sent, and Maradona -- while Morrissey is somewhere way down the list in terms of industry clout... when he cancels, the shockwaves are very sizable. Suddenly he's responsible for the death of Lollapalooza, and now a $50M lawsuit against KROQ. There's only one reason for this...

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While I admit that lawyers are the most creative people on earth when it comes to things about which to file lawsuits, I have to say that this one is difficult if not impossible.

First, there would have to be a certification of all of the fans as a class. This would allow a class action to move forward against KROQ. However, each member of the class would have to show representative damages. How many people travelled to the show from out of town? How much did they spend to travel? How do you organize the class? Most of the time these things take forever to even get started.

Second, KROQ did put on a show and a decent one. There was some value in seeing the remaining acts - just how much of the ticket's price was attached to seeing Morrissey? If there is a make-up show with Morrissey are there any damages suffered at all?

Do major league baseball teams have to refund money when the previously announced starting pitcher is too sick to pitch? Of course not...you still watch the game but maybe it wasn't as good as you wanted it to be.

If I were KROQ's lawyer, I would be saying "Bring it On..."

You didn't miss a thing...the fact that 50k+ people trekked all the way to Devore CA., to end up seeing Billy Idol ended up stealing the show is a farce. I feel very cheated out of my hard earned money.
-Ian Brown sucked....
-the sound on the second stage was blown...
-Beers were $10
-Water was $5
-KROQ waited till almost 3PM to announce that Moz was not performing....

  KROQ running a scam!? absolutely....

Someone at KROQ must have known before the day started....I think they got freaked out because half the people attending were there to see Moz..no question about it...if everyone was allowed to get a refund before the show started, it would have been a disaster for them. Fucking ass holes! I hope they get their ass handed to them in court!!!!!!!

First off, about 1 in 5 people even got an f-ing program out of this horse-shit deal!!! (nice planning, ass-holes!! Secondly, I don't know how it can be legal to not allow water be brought in (NOT a problem THIS time, but in past years people droppping like flies!!!)

FINALLY, how feasible is it to get THAT venue for something such as this??? My buddy FLEW from AZ, then rented a car & we drove from SAN DIEGO!!! I want a ticket to see him HERE in SD, where we'll actually SEE him (NO BINOCULARS ALLOWED @ THE BIGGEST VENUE IN THE FRIGGIN' COUNTRY... that seems fair, when all the "athletic supporters" don't miss a precious moment of "the big game!"
KROQ can kiss my punk-rock-ASS!!!!!

They are somehow able to broadcast via the web, the Inland Invasion concert, with video even, but unable to broadcast day to day programming online?

give me indie 103.1 anyday!
http://www.indie1031.fm/listenlive.html

In addition to this whole Morrissey fiasco, why was Kroq billing Siouxsie et al. as "Siouxsie and the Banshees"? The only "Banshee" there was Budgie, and her current tour is titled "An Evening With Siouxsie," with no misleading mention of "Banshees." It was really more of a Creatures set as she's on tour promoting the latest Creatures album. Some people at the Inland Invasion seemed to be surprised at the songs Siouxsie was playing. I think Kroq also misled ticket buyers into thinking that Siouxsie's set would be some kind of 1980s Banshees nostalgia in order to sell more tickets.

This whole festival can only be association with greed, and I'm glad I decided not to attend in the first place.

Can someone please post a source for the lawsuit rumor or is it just unsubstantiated? Thanks

And you wonder why in Estonia they say....

then that means that KROQ had to of known of the cancellation pretty well ahead of time right(At least early in the morning)? But then why did I see at least one member of Morrissey's crew backstage at the show.....? If this had been planned earlier, why would he have been there at all? Seems fishy....

i think the makeup show is probably an even better deal. if i were a fan and lived in the area, i'd be thrilled with that news.

why? because this weekend, i went to a completely different music festival. I was trying to see Modest Mouse, but i was denied an even halfway decent experience because:

1. people were already staking out claims to the Pixies later on that night.
2. since that audience was full of people who wanted to say that they saw the Pixies, i had to endure people talking through the set and such snippets of dialogue as "I don't know...i think they're called Mighty Mouse...."

yeah, you people will definitely appreciate the experience without Tears for Fears fans who don't feel like moving their lawn chairs.

I think a refund is pretty much standard practice when the *headliner* of a festival show cancels.

First off, let me say that if KROQ did find out from Moz's crew that he wasn't going to make it, then they should have announced it throughout the day and informed fans coming in. Hell, fans should have known about it if they were hearing KROQ. At least have a sign, do something. I mean, keep it up throughout the whole day. Don't just leave it up for five minutes and take it off. Don't just announce it once on air. KROQ kept quiet and made a profit. They probably deserve to be sued.

As for the 14 million dollar profit in food/beer sales: I am no mathematician, but that sounds just about right. Actually, it doesn't sound like enough. We are the country of KING SIZE, and BIGGIE UPGRADE, so it's possible. So all you Euros who are coming here and calling us fat, you're right. We are. BIG cars, BIG meals, that's us. We can afford it. Except for the state of California. I wouldn't be surprised if parking made up about 6 million more. The Hyundai Pavillion is a horrible venue.

One more thing: Those of you who are comparing this to a baseball game or other sporting event are way off. You don't go to a game just to see the starting pitcher, unless it's Nolan Ryan getting some more licks into Robin Ventura. You go there to see the game. You go to a Laker game to see the game, even if Kobe is hurt. Other factors play in, such as a team's rankings or playoff runs. A concert, is a totally different thing. While many of us have seen Moz more than once this year, where is he the rest of the time? Concerts are much more rare and hold higher value than a single game during a season because they are only dependant (in most cases) on a recent album. When most acts come to your town, you are asked out if you don't see them. I can imagine there were many people who went there solely for Morrissey. Some may have gone for the first time. It should not be held against them because Moz chooses to do 6 or 7 shows in the area at the start of the tour with plans on doing 6 or 7 more towards the end. People should have been notified by KROQ, and given the chance for a refund. It doesn't matter that there were other bands, Morrissey was the main attraction, and the prices they were charging for tickets, parking, food, and BREWS was too much for what they were offering after Moz cancelled. Don't get me wrong, it must have been a great show with all those bands put together, but not for the prices they were charging. If KROQ loses, they deserve it. Either way, it would be in their best interest to make that make-up show happen. Or else fans may not be so willing to attend their future concerts, Morrissey or not.

With reports that the freeway is being worked on, did it affect traveling time?

I spoke to my buddy that has been working at KROQ for the past 7yrs and heres what KROQ is gonna do;
KROQ will be no more all the lame Dj's are getting fired kevinBean are actually getting beheaded and Rodney is gonna get his own radio station to play whatever the fuck he wants,being that his show at 12am-3am is the only decent music ever heard on KROQ anyway!!
Now wouldnt that be a hoot.

This is a slam dunk case and am evious for not thinking of it. Most likely, they'll settle out of court, as in most cases, but what is more interesting is to see what will happen to Morrissey in this case. Depending on the contract, and I'm sure Mozzer protects himself, this could have some legal consequences for him. However, I really doubt it. Poor, poor KROQ.

This place sucks ass. This is the most asinine place ever. They don't let you wear spikes or chains, can't bring in lighters, made me throw away the backing to one of my Siouxsie buttons because of the needle, and you can't wear wallet chains. Now I can understand how some idiots think that this offers more protection which is fine...but what the f@#k do you find when you go inside? THEY SELL ALL OF THAT SHIT...huge buttons, wallets with chains, tons of spiked jewelry, lighters...and even f@#king pipes and bongs! What the f@#k is up with this place?!?!?! I was livid...LIVID! And then they try to rape you in other ways like charging $5 dollars for a cup of water...and they won't give you the plastic bottle so you can close it up and make it last throughout the day...they poor it in a huge f@#king cup so you have drink it all in one sitting or be stuck carrying around this shit that's gonna spill if you try to dance around to one of the bands. And then....none of the f@#king food places have napkins...and why u ask...one lady told me that is was because people might set them on fire. WHAT THE HELL ARE THEY TALKING ABOUT!!! There's sh!t paper in the bathrooms and paper towels as well...and not to mention a ton of other crap that can be burned all over the place. Whoever came up with these idiotic rules and restrictions are f@#king Class A Idiots. Unf@#kingbelievable that there are people that think like this in the world.

I mean, how do you prove that the people who spent this 14 million would not have spent it if they knew Moz had cancelled. Chances are most people were there for Moz and the other acts. If I had decided to fly down for it and I found out that Moz had cancelled I would have been terribly upset, but I DEFINITELY wouldn't have left the venue!

Geez...you are all so up in arms over this. Down with KROQ! Down with festivals! Why don't you all try and channel some of this rage into more important causes? I hope you are all this angry come election day! This whole fiasco just isn't important in the grand scheme of things, you know?

enough said, moz doesn't go over the edge for the people who made him what he is today,,what an ungrateful bastard. he should learn a thing or two from a true class act like robert smith, who is a real living legend. moz isn't worthy of even selling tickets to a cure show.

First of all Robert Smith is still stuck in the 80's wearing black and lipstick. The poor guy needs to reinvent himself like Moz. Second of all you FAT Cure bastards would've been pist off if the Cure would've cancelled last year at inland. Third, Robert Smith and his followers are FAT PIGS like KROQ! Hit the gym porky's

I left for the concert mostly to see Morrissey at 11:30. I listened to KROQ on my long 2 hour drive, not once did they mention anything and now that I know that Morrissey was pronounced ill at 11:00 I am extremely angry. I don't think anybody would have paid $50 for that line up without Morrissey. I didn't even hear about it from an announcement but from a drunken, angry fan who was about to start a brawl at about 5:00pm. And Billy Idol, I am not feeling alright, I am pissed off!!!

Why is everybody so angry? Can't we all just get along?

this is all so bloody stupid.

The man never showed up, you got screwed.

It's all business in the end...

KROQ is owned by Infinity Broadcasting ----Clear Channel's top rival in the broadcasting industry. Like many artists, Mr. Morrissey has a a contract with CC to perform and promote himself at CC-exclusive venues.

That is one would-be theory. Yet, there are many more...

Superior Court? now I know this 'An anonymous person' is not to be taken seriously...

...a bit like Radio 1 in England?
Has anyone seen the Pavement DVD where a guy from kroq is introducing the band live (whilst promoting forthcoming attractions) and gets booed and bottled off?
It's quite amusing.
was B Idol a replacement at the last minute or was he always on the bill and just got moved down?
So many questions, and too short an attention span to read all the other posts...

There were rumors on Saturday about Morrissey not appearing at the concert, I called the radio station somewhere between twelve thirty and one p.m. I asked if it was true that Morrissey was cancelling and the person who answered the phone said " As far as I know he is still playing," and we all know that by that time the station already knew that he was ill and that he wasn't going to show up.
  I think that it is wrong for the people at the radio station to try and trick us into going to the show and not telling us about Morrissy's cancellation. After all if there is going to be a free concert given by the man himslef then what's the point of hiding it right?

For all you smart ones out there trying to sue KROQ the sponsor of the show. You should be sueing the promoters Clear Channel since they are the ones who made the actual money.

I was at the concert Saturday. It was clearly announced after Ian Brown & The Stone Roses played Morrissey representative came out and let everyone know that Morrissey was unable to make it, because he was at home with 103 degrees fever.
Not to Mention that Ian Brown was mentioning it on stage, but People were booing him in disbelief.

i was so sad because i was not going to see Moz, but now that i found out he didnt play, im happy! Sorry for all the people who drove all the way to the crappy place.

Is this a class action lawsuit? How can others get involved and help?

Please advise. Thanks.

From http://www.morrisseymusic.com/newsitem.asp?id=79

STATEMENT ON KROQ & ALICE SHOW'S
September 21, 2004 Thank you to everyone for your kind letters of support and concern about Morrissey’s well being. He sends his very best wishes and looks forward to seeing you all on tour over the next few months starting in Washington next week. What should have been a wonderful triumphant weekend playing to 35,000 of you in LA and 10,000 or you in San Francisco ended on Saturday morning with sinusitis, acute laryngitis and a high fever with orders from Dr Joseph Sugarman to get to bed and not speak for the next 48 hours at a minimum. Sadly we not only had to postpone the shows but also cancel (at great expense!) the video shoot for Let Me Kiss You which was due for Tuesday. The most important thing of course is Morrissey’s health and we are happy to report that with the prescribed rest he will be ready to go next week and we will make an announcement later this week on a special event to make up for the KROQ show that all 35,000 of you who were there on Saturday will get to see and the same for the ALICE show in San Francisco. On a final note we understand that there are those in the Morrissey community on morrissey-solo.com spreading erroneous rumours about lawsuits and questioning whether KROQ did everything possible to bring you the information in a timely fashion. I can assure you that the rumours are false and the integrity of KROQ cannot be questioned. They handled a very difficult situation impeccably and you should treat anything you are told to the contrary as rubbish.

Best wishes,
Merck Mercuriadis
The Sanctuary Group

For all you Cure fans talking shit on this site, ROBERT SMITH IS A FATTY

You who believe KROQ made 14 Millioin dollars in concession sales are not only stupid but you are ignorant in the ways of business. First of all nothing near that number was made on any concessions nor did that money go to KROQ you fucking idiots. How do you think that venue makes money? Do you think KROQ makes all the money on the ticket sales and the merch and the food and drink. Holy shit man, get your fucking head out of your ass and pay as much attention to the world as you do to Morrissey lyrics and quit being such a jackass. It is almost funny to think that there are people who think KROQ had some control of that situation. Unless you work in the music industry don't assume to know it's inner workings.

damnit robert smith is back.

Why are you on this website then? Go whine somewhere else.

Fuck you asshole... Why the hell r u on here? Morrissey is the shit... and you swear he's perfect to show up to every single one of his performances. He is only human dammit. So shut up!

Hmmmm, pissed limey bastard, you guys are easy to spot!!!

How sad that someone who feels the way you do would spend time posting on this fan site. Your life must be empty indeed. Since your post isn't going to convert anyone to your way of thinking and, indeed, has ellicited only hostility, it may be the most pointless thing you ever did in your life. Five minutes of your life wasted to type up a tirade which no-one is going to take a blind bit of notice of. Oh dear. Truly sad.

Well are you? I am just worried that I did not spot it that easily.

However, I am not very good at this Internet Posting telepathy. I had the temerity to have a pop at one of the chosen few and got trolled. Did not realise he/she was protected!

Wherever you are from, I disagree totally with your sentiments and as a potentially fellow pissed limey, think you need a just and noble cause to follow other than the current one of a Moz knocker?