There you have it: Finn is not guilty. The thousands of seriously disgruntled Morrissey fans can leave him alone now.
Personally I quite like the woosh sound...

I love Morrissey and that "swoosh" sound was kind-of out there, but I learned to love it. It is all the rage now.

The whoosh became a conversation point almost right away.

My take on it was that in and of itself, the sound effect is dated, like something out of the disco era -- nobody would touch it now. But, in the context of being Morrissey's comeback single and the sonic buildup of the song I thought it was cool -- somehow right. Transcending its origins of cheese...

I can't imagin that there isn't anything more positive to discuss about the production by Jerry Finn on Morrissey's record. Sure, when I first heard that he was helming the ship I thought it very strange. However, Morrissey being an artist and not a pop star...I kept faith and knew he had a vision. That vision which Mr. Finn helped to create is fantastic and wonderful to listen to. Making this one the best recieved Morrissey pieces in history both by the critics (which none of you are) and the charts. Why complain...
"everybody look, see pain and walk away"

...Whoosh!

...and I'll say it again, I LOVE the 'whoosh' noise it builds up the crescendo well and is a nice touch, but it's a mere detail and a second or two long, so why do people hate it?

Morrissey has been releasing record with sound effects on them since the Smiths, it's not anything new.

Am I missing something here????? What song is the whoosh on? What time in the song???

Uh-oh. with comments like that I can see Jez being added to the very long list of Morrissey ex-collaborators in the very near future!
John

Remember morrissey added the chainsaw effect on speedway as well. My personal opinion is that it adds alot to the song.

Let's move on.

Where is this Woosh sound?

Personally I think Finn's production has done him a lot of good. I thought it would be awful but no I was wrong.

What's wrong with 'woosh' anyway- is that as in sea or wind or what???

I used to love to muck around with the 'noise' setting on my Roland SH-101... I need to start playing with it again. Whoops, I've drifted off topic.

Sorry.

Which woosh sound does Jerry hate? The woosh sound on IBEH or the woosh sound that a poly-blend suit makes as it rubs between your thighs? Personally, I hate both of them.

The whoosh is not really a whoosh...it is part of a distortion for the sound. Most modern synths have a kaos pad that will let you manipulate the sound in a different direction, rather than just bending the pitch...

I think Boss sells something called the Kaos pad which will make what most of you refer to as a whoosh sound.

Ebay sells these pads pretty cheap...

I say to hell with it! Whoosh on every song for jesus' sake. Just keep those records coming.

personally i like it

"We'll let you know" the windy sound

The whistleing sounds on various songs

... a fart as well?

After listening to Jobriath that Morrissey likes, I understand why it is a Morrisseys's decision.
Indeed, there are some "woosh sounds" in the songs. Just listen to Morning Star Ship.
Moz is just a fan.

So, the "whoosh" seems to have gained credibility since IBEH was first aired then. I recall many, many comments slagging that sound effect off and, yes, attributing its presence to Jerry Finn.

Now that Jerry Finn is saying that Morrissey himself elected to keep it - well, I still hate it. An unnecessary and, yes, cheesy, addition to a decent enough song. Every time I hear it I cringe. It serves no purpose whatsoever - the crescendo of the music has already been built by then and it adds nothing at all - indeed, detracts in my opinion. Previous sound effects (the buzzsaw on 'Speedway', the 'Hindley laugh' on 'Suffer Little Children', the pub chatter on 'Spring Heeled Jim', the rain on 'Well I Wonder') have been used well and contributed to/enhanced the track. This does not, and it's awful.

The only good thing that may come of this is Jerry Finn being banished and NOT working with Morrissey on his next album. Let's have someone who doesn't make things so excessively polished and smooth next time.

What's the big deal about the woosh sound anyway? Morrissey's has always used sound-effects on his records. From the first day with the Smiths till now.

It's cool.

Peace.

As far as I recall, there are two "whooshy" bits in the song. Shortly after he sings the last line there is a bit of whooshing, which I like, as it sounds like distortion or white noise... and then there is a whooshing sound in the final crescendo which I always thought sounded a bit like the noise the smaller spaceships flying around in Star Wars make... especially the bad guys spaceships... or is it just me? Listen to the very end of IBEH and then tell me I'm wrong!!!

:-)

Not that the whoosh has a particularly illustrious track record in pop music.

When I first heard it, I thought it had been played over the track by the radio station, as they prepared to introduce the next song, but a couple of listens later, I think the whoosh was actually quite an inspired addition to the song. It signals the slight change in rhythm towards the end of IBEH, going from spiralling guitars to an almost reversed percussion beat and a circular guitar riff. It adds a touch of drama.

Now I'd like to see Morrissey take a radical direction and make greater use of sound effects in his records. Although the songwriting isn't great on "Hail to the Thief," the way radiohead manage to use traditional instruments such as guitar and keyboards and make them sound so unconventional is very exciting. When the songwriting is at a better standard as it was on "OK Computer" and "The Bends" Radiohead's arrangements are sublime. Morrissey's voice with a slightly more unhinged, slightly more expansive sound would be extraordinary. "You are the Quarry" is a fantastic album, but I can't see how much further he can take that particular sound. Whether this means he needs some new musicians or just a radical producer I don't know.

Can you aimgine how "Come Back To camden" would have sounded with the type of arrangement you can hear on "Fake Plastic Trees" or "Sail us to the Moon?"

broken

So, all of this over what someone said someone said? Everyone trying to get ahead on someone's back or just to have some input like it matters. Man, politics are a bitch. Whatever happened to innocent until proven guilty? Whatever happened to it's a great record, so get a life, just play it, and enjoy? Woosh. Woosh. Woosh. It's still awesome!