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davidt
on Tuesday February 17 2004, @11:00AM
An anonymous person writes:
Blink-182's drummer Travis Barker was asked to play drums on You Are The Quarry. A journalist friend of mine interviewed Travis Barker for the Swedish newspaper Expressens entertainment edition and since my friend is a huge fan of Moz they of course talked about Morrissey. I forced him to write down what Travis said on the interview tape (the article isn't out yet and will probably not include the section about Morrissey due to space limitations). Here goes: Your producer Jerry Finn is working on the new Morrissey album. Have you heard anything about that? - I was actually supposed to have played drums on the Morrissey album! They asked me if I'd come down and check it out but I was having a baby at the time so I didn't do it in the end. But I heard that everything is going well with the album. - Mark in our band talks to Jerry a lot and Jerry told him that everything is going absolutely amazing with the Morrissey album. When we were working on the Blink record Jerry heard some of the new Morrissey material and it was SOOO good! I haven't heard it myself but Jerry says it's just amazing, so I'm really excited. Jerry is pretty on most of the time and has very good taste, you know? so I reckon it'll be good. Who's idea was it for you to play the drums on the Morrissey record? - Morrissey's manager asked me actually and that was a fucking honour I tell you! Are you a fan of Morrissey's music? - Not really a huge fan, but I'm familiar with his music and I listened a lot to The Smiths when I was in high school. Note: Travis must have been approached to play the drums around the time Spike T Smith was kicked off the sessions and Dean Butterworth replaced him. According to Travis, his son is three and a half months old, so his story makes sense that way. As said, the article isn't out but the link to the newspaper is http://www.expressen.se
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and... (Score:1)
(User #9420 Info)
Interesting! (Score:1)
(User #80 Info)
Travis Barker (Score:0)
encouraging stuff... (Score:0)
that's more like it! the only previous comment we had from Jerry was that the recordings were 'great' which I thought was a disappointing choice of superlative!
John, England
Punk'd (Score:1)
Did anyone ever see that Punk'd w/ Travis? Or any interview with him? Do you think he's the type of person to say "reckon"? I don't. Oh well.
(User #401 Info | http://www.omgmyblog.com/)
this is where i have to fucking put my foot down. (Score:1, Troll)
(User #1665 Info | http://www.cherryplucker.com/)
Re:this is where i have to fucking put my foot dow (Score:3, Insightful)
i’ll give you that barker is better than spike smith and dean butterworth though – two drummers in my opinion that are beyond critisim. butterworth uses the same drumsticks due to the fact that he’s never hit his snare harder than a baby tap and spike has yet to figure out where a drum fill goes. but to say barker is better than spencer cobrin is ridiculous. they’re two different kinds of drummers. apples and oranges.
but if you can explain to me how barker is better than cobrin, please do so – i’m very curious as to your thought process on the matter. people always say "person a" is better than "person b" but never back it up. prove me wrong.
but i digress. have you heard the new songs? yes, i'm sure you have. they're not what you'd call rockers, are they? "mexico?" first of the gang?" "crashing bores?" "i like you?" these songs require finesse, something i don't have confidence in jerry finn having. hopefully finn’s job is more of a knob turner and a button presser than a hands-on producer.
like i said, i don’t doubt his talents – he probably makes a great commercial pop-punk record, i’m just stating that there comes a point where one has to question some of the people involved in this recording session.
by the way, since you bring up the wide array of “accomplishments” of finn and barker, here they are…
jerry finn:
blink-182
afi
bad religion
color me badd
goo goo dolls
green day
sum 41
alvin and the chipmunks
pennywise
barker:
blink-182
pink
transplants
black eyed peas
i’m sorry, but i am not impressed with what they’ve “accomplished in their careers.”
steve lilywhite on the other hand, who you refer to as a “substandard producer,” besides producing “vauxhall and i,” the “sunny” and “boxers” eps, “viva hate,” and “southpaw grammar,” has worked with:
happy mondays
kirsty maccoll
xtc
the la’s
the pogues
the chameleons uk
talking heads
steel pulse
johnny thunders
bruce foxton of the jam
and oh yeah sorry for digging up the terrible past, but the smiths.
by the way, do you actually like any morrissey album? by this statement: “[morrissey] has never had a lights-out producer or rhythm section and that is just the plain truth,” is sounds like you’ve never been happy with anything he’s put out. do i really have to bring mick ronson into this too?
living in the past, eugenius
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How optimistic! (Score:1)
Maybe Morrissey is going to re-invent himself with this new album. Not that he needs to. The excitement is almost too much to bear. I am hoping for TWO concert dates in Chicago, one at the Aragon and one at the Riv. I will be there. With my hearing aid and gladioli.
Truly,
Ken
(User #3940 Info)
Drummer...or musician (Score:1, Insightful)
Keep in mind that Travis Barker is like most of the great drummers out there...he is a musician. Get it out of your heads that even if he played on the record, that it would sound like blink...he is a phenomenal drummer...that's it and that's all. Morrissey would have been privileged if Travis would have played on the record. The problem with Dean and Spike, is that they bring no real musicianship and experimentation or new ideas to the table...it's a bummer this story never came to fruitution.
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Scary (Score:0)
I don't care who the drummer is... (Score:0)
Ewwww!....Nooooo!!! (Score:0)
I'm so ahamed.
sorry seems the hardest word (Score:1)
(User #220 Info)
they could've gotten Ringo Starr... (Score:1)
he's not doing anything much, is he?
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having a baby (Score:0)
Does the drummer REALLY matter? (Score:2, Funny)
x
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dean butterworth (Score:0)
For those who doubt his creativity and ability to play with passion, just listen to his past work, live and studio, with Ben Harper.
Would Morrisey publicly make a comment about him like "the best drummer we've had" without reason?
the beat osf suede!!! (Score:0)
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