Morrissey interview in today's City Life - full transcript!
posted by davidt on Wednesday July 02 2003, @09:30AM

JiltedJim writes:

Morrissey gives an interview with today's City Life Magazine, which I have transcribed for the benefit of non-English fans of his Mozjesty. (Update: 07/03 20:17 GMT: scans of the article posted on the general discussion board by gIrL uNaFrAiD.)

Typical brainless questions, but never mind. The accompanying photos are nice, but nothing spectacular. Moz makes some interesting comments on Manchester, the recent documentary, the war in Iraq and, erm, Larry Grayson (!), manages to mention Linder Sterling no less than three times, and drops tantalising hints he'll be playing the Manchester MEN arena soon! Please forgive the odd grammatical error, I'm not the world's greatest typist.


AND DON'T FORGET THE SONGS...

In only his British Press interview in seven years, Manchester's Greatest Ever Frontman (as voted by you) speaks exclusively to City Life about everything from life in LA to his new album, from Manchester's urban regeneration to the on-going ill health of British pop. The more we ignore Morrissey, it seems...



Guess who's back? back again...

A month on from signing his first UK record deal in six years (to punk stalwarts Sanctuary Records), and only a week after being voted the Greatest Manc frontman, ever, the Morrissey resurgence is now, officially, breaking into a stride. Unconfirmed reports of an MEN arena gig continue to go tantalisingly unconfirmed, but have a prophetic air to them of the self-fulfilling kind, while the internet abounds with rumours about the forthcoming album, complete with speculated tracklists, suggested singles and utterly fabricated album titles. To take things up a gear, the man himself this week breaks years of silence with an exclusive interview conducted - for the purposes of fair representation - through his now famous medium of choice, the fax. Nor should it be a surprise that it's in Manchester he's chosen to launch his assault.

El moz, we salute you.

First off, congratulations! How does it feel to be voted Manchester's greatest ever frontman?
"I'm absolutely exhausted from sending all those votes."

You beat the likes of Liam Gallagher, Ian Curtis, Shaun Ryder, Ian Brown, Richard Ashcroft, Mark E Smith, Tim Burgess and Mick Hucknall. Who would you have voted for?
"Liam, or Mark E, or Linder Sterling. Technically, of course, Linder Sterling isn't a man. But neither are most of the others on your list."

Does it scare you that you still inspire such devotion in people?
"No, but it might scare them."

You were back in Manchester recently - why return after so long?
"I was called back for cross-examination at a court case that was scheduled to run for three days. The Smiths drummer - but of course, who else? - had put a charge on my mother's house and a charge on my sister's house, and was claiming both. He was also trying to sue me under the insolvency act, all of which was absolute nonsense. So, I spent a few days with my barrister and my lawyer preparing for the court hearing when all of a sudden the Smiths' drummer dropped all three claims and completely abandoned the case. Nobody knows why, but it seems obvious that he knew he'd lose, and he didn't want to be embarrassed in his hometown."

Do you recognise the new and improved Manchester as the same town you grew up in?
"Yes, but only because of the people, and the fact that Manchester people never seem to change - thankfully. Early 70s Manchester was, I imagine, very much like late 40s Manchester. It was impossible to buy decent clothes, decent trousers, decent shoes, decent jeans - and I literally mean impossible, not just difficult, but impossible. It was very difficult to look good, which is probably why most people didn't. You had to virtually disfigure yourself in order to seem interesting. Manchester is such a positive place now, and one striking change is the almost total absence of senior citizens.

In the 70s, of course there was still that elderly generation who shuffled about in their de-mob suits and post-war overcoats. They gave a particularly distinct image of Manchester as a wonderful city, and of course, that entire generation have all passed away."

Do you think Warrington is really a good choice to be 'capital of the north'?
"No, there's nothing there, apart from George Formby's bones and a few wool shops. Mind you, that's not a bad start. I know a few people who would be quite happy with that."

Would the Smiths have sounded different in the Manchester of today?
"Yes, we would have sounded like the Radha Krishna Temple, and I'd have been accused of being anti-white."

What did you do while you were back here this time?
"Bumped into Christopher Eccleston - which was great; bumped into Vini Reilly - also great; tea with Linder Sterling at Selfridges, and caught up with Eastenders. I think the Sharon-vicki-Dennis storyline must be the most implausibly silly plot in the entire history of television. Stupid of me to watch it, though - I ought to be out playing rugby."

Does that mean you'll finally be playing a show here before long?
"I haven't played Manchester for 11 years, which seems a bit ridiculous. I had an offer last week for the MEN arena, which I think holds about 15,000. I'd love to do it."

Do you think British pop is in need of saving?
"It's beyond redemption. The world no longer has any respect for pop music, and this is why all of the major labels are now making one great mad rush to grab as much quick money as possible. also, the standard of pop writing is so awful now, but this is unfortunately immaterial because the only important factor is marketing, which is why so many singles fly in at number one before anyone's even had a chance to hear them."

Has LA given you a different perspective as a songwriter?
"Slightly. It's a very nervous and frightened city. If you brush against someone accidentally in the street they jump five feet in the air because they think you're going to kill them. If you wave over to someone to ask directions they run off in the opposite direction without answering you. Whereas in, say, Dublin or Copenhagen, you can literally sit on a complete stranger's knee in the park and they don't especially mind."

Why did it take so long to re-sign? You can't have been short of offers...
"I honestly didn't have any decent offers. For example, three major US labels said 'We want you, but we don't want your band,' so I turned them down. Another label said 'We want to sign you, but we'd first like you to make an album with the musicians from Radiohead,' and another label said 'We'll sign you if you agree to make an album with Tracey Thorn'. Absolutely bewildering. People don't know what I've been through."

Were you really as unhappy with the channel 4 documentary as was rumoured?
"Well, yes, because I did some lengthy interviews with them that were great, but they only used the most boring and monotonous comments, and they focused on all those tired old subjects such as celibacy and racism - things that people are sick to death of hearing about. I was embarrassed because it looked as if this was all I could talk about. Also, they kept filming me from my chin. which made me look as if I've got no teeth, and they positioned the lights every time to give me a greenish white deathly pale look. Lighting is meant to make you look better than you do, but theirs made me look worse. In the Australian clips, for example, I actually had a great tan, but the channel 4 camera technique made me look as if I'm just coming round after emergency surgery. I think it was a deliberate ploy to make me look grey and miserable. But that's tabloid telly."

Do you feel the need to speak out about the war in Iraq?
"Not really, because people of intelligence aren't remotely fooled. This isn't 1952. We all know that war is completely unnecessary. I'm very shocked at how people are still willing to go off to places like Iraq as basic cannon fodder. Would you give your life for Tony Blair or George W? I wouldn't.

Military action in Iraq has also made the world a less safe place. The Americans couldn't find Saddam, they couldn't find Bin Laden - so what's been the point of the exercise?

More dangerously, has anyone noticed the facial and physical similarity between Tony Blair and Larry Grayson? And is it not a coincidence that Larry Grayson 'died' as soon as Blair became prime minister? Am I the only one who suspects that this country is being run by Larry Grayson?"

What is it like being a citizen in a country whose politics you find hard to stomach?
"England is now as bad as America. In either country, it is impossible to watch the television news. I often wonder who they think is watching."

Who's your favourite new band?
"I like the Damien Dempsey CD a lot - especially 'Ghosts of Overdoses' and 'Industrial School'."

Eminem is the new Morrissey. Discuss.
"Pigfarmer's Weekly is the new City Life. Discuss."

How is the new album going, and what can we expect?
"It's going to be great. If it isn't, I'll retire to a terraced cottage by an old textile mill and I won't bother you again."

The new album is reportedly called Ludus Lumni. Are you a nostalgic person?
"To be perfectly honest, I've never actually heard of the title Ludus Lumni. I don't even know what it means. I think someone is having you on."

Have the past 20 years of pop music changed your opinion on dance at all?
"I have no opinion on dance, or any other subject for that matter."

What can you tell us about your new songs?
"Nothing. Why?"
---
There's also a report on the merits of some of the possible new album's songs, and a fantastic article about growing up as a Smiths fan, which contains the funniest Moz anecdote I've ever heard. So buy City Life now!!!

 
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    Interview, sminterview (Score:0)
    Am I the first the gang today? Perhaps not, if so yay!! Pretty straight laced interview. Damien Dempsey is an Irish/singer/songwriter/, quite talented. Playing Derry soon!
      Mike Joyce, what does this mean in regard to the 'case'?
    Anonymous -- Wednesday July 02 2003, @09:51AM (#67430)
    Importance of Being Honest... (Score:1)
    As I read this article, I felt that it was one of the best interview of Q/A's I have ever read. Morrissey seemed so completely honest in this one. Perhaps he likes the reason for being interviewed, "Manchester's Greatest Ever Frontman" - which is is.
    palare -- Wednesday July 02 2003, @09:56AM (#67431)
    (User #152 Info | http://worldofabrahan.com/ )
    where the world's ugliest boy became what you see...
      Agreed! (Score:1)
      "It's going to be great. If it isn't, I'll retire to a terraced cottage by an old textile mill and I won't bother you again."

      Could I get that in writing, please?
      Eric Hartman -- Wednesday July 02 2003, @10:17AM (#67434)
      (User #5103 Info)
      It is a very mixed blessing to be brought back from the dead.
      • Re:Agreed! by Gabriella (Score:1) Wednesday July 02 2003, @01:19PM
        • Re: Agreed! by Eric Hartman (Score:1) Thursday July 03 2003, @12:08AM
        Has the case ended??? (Score:0)
        What does Morrissey mean?

        Is it over? Has Joyce dropped the case? Surely there must be some way of verifying this with the courts or something? What does this mean now?
        Anonymous -- Wednesday July 02 2003, @10:19AM (#67435)
        Oh, if only they had asked... (Score:0)
        who the producer of the new album is going to be. Moz himself?
        Anonymous -- Wednesday July 02 2003, @10:25AM (#67437)
          Larry Grayson (Score:1)
          http://freespace.virgin.net/kevin.orford/img232.gif

          Hmmm.
          Sven68 -- Wednesday July 02 2003, @10:52AM (#67443)
          (User #4431 Info | http://www.keiselt.de/westham )
          • Re:Larry Grayson by Anonymous-shnonymous (Score:1) Wednesday July 02 2003, @04:37PM
            Where can I get this in the US? (Score:0)
            some a**hole is selling quite a few of these magazines on ebay, but is charging entirely too much.
            Anonymous -- Wednesday July 02 2003, @11:21AM (#67444)
            Ahh...I couldn't love him more! (Score:1)
            I just love reading Moz's interviews. His wit never ceases to amaze me. I'd kill to sit down and have tea with that man. Or sex -- it's his choice. ;-)
            GenderNectar -- Wednesday July 02 2003, @12:24PM (#67456)
            (User #4408 Info)
            "How can you call this a home when you know it's a grave?"
            Fantastic article?????? (Score:1)
            Cannot understand how you can say the article alongside the interview is fantastic. The item is purely to fill space for those of us promised a 'Morrissey Special' last issue. Although the anecdote is funny, the remainder of the piece is awful and more Moz-bashing. In fact i've just sent this e-mail to City Life:-

            Thanks for the Morrissey interview- the world's greatest lyricist deserves more recognition, especially from the mancunian press.
             
            Why did you have to ruin the spread with the appalling article ' The Importance of Not Being Morrissey ' by James Walker. The author was supposed to be a Morrissey fan, although by his own admission he had not listened to anything by Morrissey in two years. The tired use of Smiths lyrics and titles was unintelligent and humourless and the insinuation that fans of Morrissey are fools is just insulting to the many who purchased City Life purely for the article.
             
            I doubt Mr Walker's previously celibate lifestyle was his own decision if his conversation is anything like his writing. In fact the whole piece seemed to be an excuse to tell the north west that James Walker had finally got a girlfriend.
             
            James Walker you are, without doubt, a twat.
             
            Lots of Love
            Neil Calcutt
            Prestwich
            Manchester Neil -- Wednesday July 02 2003, @12:49PM (#67457)
            (User #8271 Info)
            funny (Score:1)
            Not much new, but as usual I laughed out loud at his interview.
            God I love him...
            Spineless Swine <kingbeer@morrissey.zzn.com> -- Wednesday July 02 2003, @12:50PM (#67458)
            (User #4968 Info)
            Leave your future behind you.
              Great stuff (Score:1)
              Good to hear old Mozzer in top comedic form.
              watfordtakeabow -- Wednesday July 02 2003, @01:03PM (#67460)
              (User #7333 Info)
              Listen to 'Death At One's Elbow', you'll get to like it.
                Joyce (Score:1)
                Hope Joyce has given up trying to squeeze blood out of a stone. Morrissey is a stubborn man (in a good way) and would never give in as we've all learnt. Morrissey must have incredible will power to withstand the agony the court cases have caused.
                DanielGaunt -- Wednesday July 02 2003, @02:10PM (#67489)
                (User #6736 Info)
                • Re:Joyce by JiltedJim (Score:1) Thursday July 03 2003, @10:41AM
                  back th'Lads (Score:2, Insightful)
                  It's fantastic that Morrissey turned down a deal because the label didn't want his band. The Lads may finally get some respect.

                  Speaking of personnel, Deano is *not* on the year-long Ben Harper tour. So, he may be the skin-hitter behind Door #1. Cale finishes a tour of Europe at the end of the month. He has an album coming out later this year, but maybe there are a couple of open months in his fall schedule...
                  s-man -- Wednesday July 02 2003, @03:44PM (#67497)
                  (User #1233 Info)
                  Has LA given you a different perspective etc. ? (Score:1)
                  laughed out loud what he answered.
                  Celibate Cry <vauxhall@mail2uk.com> -- Wednesday July 02 2003, @10:39PM (#67527)
                  (User #220 Info)
                  and the hills are alive with celibate cries
                  Can anybody help... (Score:1)
                  Good interview but could someone help with this...
                  In the inportance of being Morrissey,the part when he talks about depression there is a song on in the background,the lyrics are
                  "sing me to sleep,i don't want to wake up on my own anymore",it's just him and a piano.
                  thelazysunbather -- Wednesday July 02 2003, @11:22PM (#67530)
                  (User #8343 Info)
                  'Lost' is ancient! (Score:1)
                  A separate article in the same mag mentions 'Lost' as a possible song for the new album. Go figure...
                  jason25 -- Thursday July 03 2003, @02:52AM (#67559)
                  (User #5890 Info)
                    Nice interview (Score:1)
                    But, I'm confused...

                    Is the court case over? Did Mike finally come to his senses? I mean, I nearly chocked on my rice when I read that*.

                    *sorry to those who wished I had. There's always a next time, you know.
                    hand in glove -- Thursday July 03 2003, @04:00AM (#67562)
                    (User #827 Info)
                    Art is the tree of life. Science is the tree of death. - William Blake
                    Disappointed...but not overly surprised... (Score:1)
                    I was hopeful--but not naive--that Morrissey would have a more informed and intelligent view of "the war on terror, Iraq, blah, blah, blah..." but, alas, it sounds as though he has the same lazy point of view as such idiots as Fran Healy, Chris Martin, and Thom Yorke...

                    Amazing that such great musicians and songsmiths could be so ignorant about such important matters...proves they really do simply live in their own little worlds, and place little--if any--effort into researching world events, politics, and modern issues...

                    If it doesn't revolve around the next plain-colored extra-small tee-shirt and tight fitting pants, cigarettes, and gigs, we really shouldn't expect much than maligned fodder from these artists on world affairs...

                    I thought Morrissey would be better than that...
                    dewdrop -- Thursday July 03 2003, @04:35AM (#67567)
                    (User #2326 Info)
                    Anecdote please! (Score:1)
                    Thank's for the transcript Jim. What a great interview, miles better than him saying nothing much in the documentary or in that other one (word was it? whatever). He should do all of his interviews by fax as he's even funnier when he has time to think of a reply.
                    BUT
                        What was this ANECDOTE that keeps being alluded to? Someone tell it please or we all employees of City Life. Come on you wont get sacked and if you do they're hiring on the railways.
                    paulybob <draize1@hotmail.com> -- Thursday July 03 2003, @06:43AM (#67584)
                    (User #2426 Info)
                      Another FANTASTIC Interview (Score:1)
                      Thanx for transcribing ;^)
                      Mud <{jaytando} {at} {hotmail.com}> -- Thursday July 03 2003, @08:34AM (#67598)
                      (User #454 Info | http://jaytando.tripod.com/meeting-morrissey/ )
                      I'm really just Some Totally Random Moz Fan
                        Entertainers and Politics (Score:0)
                        No-one ever says to a factory worker 'you're a factory worker, stick to that, stop talking about politics.' The same thing occurs with everyone in any profession in the world, except of course the entertainment industry. It seems that once you become involved in that world you are suddenly banished from having an opinion on anything! Does your views have to be left at the door or something? What a horrible prospect.
                          Just because an individual gets involved in such an industry does not mean they have no right to speak out against the injustices of this world just as the rest of us do around the water coolers and the coffee tables! Why the hell should they? Are we really that cynical? What harm is Morrissey doing airing his views, tell me that? What harm is Bono doing appearing on Oprah? What harm? I'd really like to know! Cynicism is festering the world and people attack other people people's motives and don't really know why!
                        Anonymous -- Thursday July 03 2003, @11:43AM (#67643)
                        Anecdote? (Score:0)
                        I would also love to hear this Anecdote
                        as I will never see the magazine

                        Can anyone put it up here?

                        Thanks :)
                        Anonymous -- Thursday July 03 2003, @12:02PM (#67646)
                          Eminem is the new Morrissey. Discuss (Score:0)
                          ja, ja, ja!!!!, i couldn't keep myself from laughing by the answer for this one, it's great to see that the man's sense of humour is in top form as usual
                          pretty petty thief <dissapointed@excite.com> -- Thursday July 03 2003, @03:16PM (#67666)
                          (User #7529 Info)
                          hell is the bell that will not ring again....
                            News Just In!!!! (Score:2, Funny)
                            Hector was in fact the first of the gang to die. Reports coming in that he was a silly boy. More to follow.
                            maladjustedduck -- Friday July 04 2003, @04:49AM (#67714)
                            (User #8226 Info)
                            Victoria, can you make me a cuppa please? Muchos gracias my darling.
                              this article (Score:0)
                              Hahahaha.
                              "Pigfarmer's Weekly is the new City Life. Discuss."

                              I like Eminem, but that is hilarious. I love funny Moz interviews. I don't love how the threads are full of people determined to suck the fun out of life. Oh well I suppose you're all entitled to your opinions.
                              Anonymous -- Friday July 04 2003, @10:46AM (#67765)
                                James Walker (Score:1)
                                Why is it that whenever anyone says anything about Moz that isn't writen with rose tinted NHS spectacles or anything even slightly critical, people jump on it. James Walker was asked an opinion, gave it honestly and gets slated. There are certain people/posts on Moz-solo that really make you ashamed to be a fan.
                                AnthonyGlamour -- Friday July 04 2003, @03:36PM (#67777)
                                (User #7618 Info | http://www.myspace.com/anthonycutt )
                                  MOZ Votes For LIAM!!! (Score:0)
                                  goodgoodgood. now all those who spend so much time on this site slagging oasis and saying you just *know* moz must despise them because they are the anti-smiths, can be quiet :* morrissey HAS always had good taste, though, so i knew it was likely he loved oasis...
                                  they should tour together now, since they all like each other so much :P
                                  Anonymous -- Sunday July 06 2003, @11:19AM (#67788)
                                  it doesn't take a rocket scientist... (Score:0)
                                  yes, the shell has been broken, but we need CONTROVERSY- the one and only way for Moz to hit main stream again!!!
                                  Anonymous -- Sunday July 06 2003, @06:37PM (#67813)
                                    the interview of century (Score:0)
                                    He did it for eternity, no doubt about it. He still the kind of Morrissey we know. The Blair is smart and the racist prejudice for Him is lame and irrational
                                    One day i'll make an underground ep version of Morrissey as my sensitive influences :),
                                    Peter Morrissey -- Sunday July 06 2003, @07:26PM (#67814)
                                    (User #4524 Info)
                                      Morrissey's immature politics (Score:0)
                                      Once again I'm forced to separate my respect for Morrssey as an entertainer from my utter despair concerning his immature perspective on world politics. Comments such as "this isn't 1952...war is unnecessary....would you die for George W, Tony Blair", etc. indicate Morrissey's total disengagement from the serious and complex nature of the international political system. Yes, war IS necessary on many occassions (in fact, some experts have argued that Americans and Brits haven't engaged their militaries enough in the past twenty years, especially in places like Rwanda and Liberia). Also, Morrissey disrespects members of the armed forces when he refers to them as "cannon fodder" and suggests that they are "dying for George W and Tony Blair." Does he actually assume that these people are brainless? In America all members of the military VOLUNTEER to serve the country in defense of their personal principles like freedom, liberty and human rights. They do not join to become George W's (or any president's) personal tribunes. They serve the country, not the man, and what they do is hard, thankless and dangerous. By contrast, Morrissey's lifestyle is rather frivolous.

                                      I guess I shouldn't expect Morrissey to be an expert or some sort of foreign policy wonk, but I do expect him to show at least a semblance of independent thought rather than following the trite, immature mantras of "hip" idealists. The world is simply too serious a place for such naivetee.
                                      Copeland -- Monday July 07 2003, @09:38AM (#67865)
                                      (User #1426 Info)
                                      Prejudgice (Score:0)
                                      I wonder why you all praise Morrissey for his politics and ignore the fact that he hates the elderly.

                                      Why would Morrissey slander the elderly as he did in this interview?

                                      It's just wrong. Especially since Mozzer is quite the old man himself.
                                      Anonymous -- Monday July 07 2003, @02:28PM (#67901)
                                      A doubt from a non british person.... (Score:1)
                                      Who's Larry Grayson ?
                                      Vinyls made like crp -- Tuesday July 08 2003, @02:34AM (#67956)
                                      (User #8203 Info)
                                      The Grave Maurice (Score:1)
                                      I have been in a pub called the Grave Maurice in east London, and seems the one appearing on the "under the influence" cover. Does any one know what is the meaningfulness of that name?
                                      Gorbi <jose.cerda@hm-treasury.gsi.gov.uk> -- Monday July 28 2003, @04:28AM (#69859)
                                      (User #8880 Info)
                                      Re:Iraq (Score:0)
                                      Maybe anonymous posters on Morrissey message boards might be advised to heed the same advice.

                                      signed...
                                      Anonymous -- Thursday July 03 2003, @10:39AM (#67620)
                                      [ Parent ]
                                        Re:Morrissey's... (Score:1)
                                        maybe part of it is because he's always asked the same questions.
                                        nonesoever -- Friday July 04 2003, @01:09AM (#67690)
                                        (User #8448 Info)
                                        "... turn popular song into sickness"
                                        [ Parent ]
                                          Re:Morrissey in A Movie (Score:0)
                                          not a movie, it's a British soap in which Moz did appear for a brief 'cameo' role. think it was later than 82 though. more like 87.
                                          regards.
                                          John Steed
                                          Anonymous -- Friday July 04 2003, @01:28AM (#67691)
                                          [ Parent ]
                                          Re:Iraq (Score:0)
                                          Well, what was he supposed to say? "No I can't answer that question, because someone might disagree with my strong views"? it's not as if he actively set out to force his opinion down your throat - he was replying to a question.
                                          Anonymous -- Sunday July 06 2003, @02:02PM (#67795)
                                          [ Parent ]
                                            Actually Morrissey (Score:2, Interesting)
                                            the armed forces are risking their lives, both past and present, so YOU are able to go to your local store and harass the salespeople about getting vegan cheese. In the 1700's people risked and died for YOU,a person living in the US, would have first amendments rights that you use to harass and bully someone who spends his time and money to run this site.
                                            Anonymous -- Wednesday July 09 2003, @06:18AM (#68085)
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