Sorry, I have a doubt here: viendrait de signer means "sign" , "signed", "will sign" or something else?

I won't believe that before I've seen either the contract or the record with my own eyes!

Rhino was rumoured to want to add Moz to their reissue, repackage catalogue.

But new material?

Ha.

Can anyone honestly see another 5 albums of new material.Even 1 album at the moment seems very unlikely.

Even though I'd like to believe he's signed a record deal for NEW material, I'm waiting to hear an official word.
It may simply be a rumor because of Rhino releasing 'best of' Morrissey stuff.

I don't know if I'm ready to buy six new Morrissey albums! Seems a tad far-fetched.

There is probably more chance of the man recording an album with a rhino.

Basically, it says that Moz has signed a five album deal with Rhino...a label specialized in re-issues & artists nearing the end of their career.

Altavista's world translator came up with this version of the bulletin:
"Morrissey, it, have just signed a deal of five albums with the Californian label Rhino, luxurious old people's home specialized in the republications and the ends of career."
So, I guess that's it...he's moving into a luxurious old people's home while the plan the end of his career.

The truth hides in interesting places.

_OWL

I was going to email them, until I found this disclaimer against sending in one's demos:

"Rhino is a reissue label. If you want us to release your CD, follow these easy steps:
1. Make a demo
2. Get that demo heard by a new-artist-focused record company.
3. Record a really good, chart-topping album for a company that has, or will have, a good relationship with Rhino
4. Sell lots of copies and grow your fan base.
5. Release more albums (optional).
6. Have your record go out of print (generally an automatic function of time).
7. Sit back and watch your songs appear on award-winning Rhino compilations and maybe even have your albums reissued by us!"

Now, for once I am going to try and be positive about a Morrissey rumour, albeit deep down I know it's about as real as solid gold beaver balls.

But come ON people! 5 ALBUMS!!! Can you just fathom the endless poosibilities?!
Ah yeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhh...... Creamy AND delicious!

Still hoping
with fingers crossed to the point of arthritis
DeB of the West Sider Riders ;-)

Rhino is more of a compilation label i don't think Rhino would sign Moz to such a deal he probably just handed over the rights to all of his songs so that Rhino can release more and more greatest hits compilations.

"Morrissey, it, have just signed a deal of five albums with the Californian label Rhino, luxurious old people's home specialized in the republications and the ends of career".

Take it for what it's worth.

So as far strectched the idea of Moz signing with Rhino is, so is the idea of a contract for 5 albums. I read that when Stabbing Westward (I know it's a bad reference) signed their new deal with Koch records it was for one album and the deal was for over a million dollars. Remember Maladjusted only sold 250,000 copies. Also, normally a label's contract isn't for a set number of albums, say 5. For example, there is a bank named flick who is signed to Columbia. Their contract is is for a total of 6 albums, but can be limited to 2 (and this is quite a contract after an extensive bidding war between labels). Columbia is required to allow flick to record 2 albums before they can drop them, however should flick take off and sell millions of albums, flick cannot leave Columbia and record for another label until they have recorded 6 albums for Columbia. I have a hard time believing that at this point in his career, Moz could get a contract for 5 albums. Not that I think Moz couldn't make 5 outstanding albums, but he's not where the market is right now, and labels are here to make money. I think that if there is a contract for 5 albums, it is simply 5 re-issue albums.

As I said in one previous post, I checked the meaning of that particular expression, in fact I asked about it to some french people and teachers of french who were around (handy, sometimes). They warned me that (again) "viendrait de signer" IS the conditional tense, unlike many posts state here, and so the person who wrote the original in French suggests clearly that it is a rumour. The main problem with that translation is that it became a reported speech of the original, therefore the usage of the "would have signed". I believe that "might have signed" would be more accurate, though the translation offered is perfectly ok (I probably would have translated that the same way, some tenses in French and Portuguese do not have some immediate association in English, and the reported speech would have tricked me too).

Five albums means years of working as a slave for a record company. I therefore hope it's a false rumor.

"might have signed" is indeed more accurate.
as far as i know, this comment has been extracted from les inrocks website and has not been published in their weekly magazine.
the journalist responsible for this rumour is jean daniel beauvallet, once a longtime fan and supporter of morrissey, but who suddenly changed his attitude in 1997 and slagged him off when maladjusted came out.
i therefore doubt the accuracy and validity of the source: jdb probably read recent rumours on morrissey-solo and had his own interpretation.

To avoid more confusion:

"Morrissey, lui, viendrait de signer un deal de cinq albums avec le label californien Rhino, maison de retraite luxueuse spécialisée dans les rééditions et les fins de carrière."

[...while] Morrissey, himself, might have signed a deal of 5 albums with the Californian label Rhino, [which is] a sophisticated retirement label [house] operating on the field of reissues and end of careers.

So, I wanted previously to make sure that it had been suggested in the article that the whole thing was only a rumour for other reasons than preventing antecipated waves of joy. I mean, I hope it isn't true at all, for obvious reasons.

Again, more contentious rumours to fill your sad lives! But it does beg the question, what is this man doing? In the early Smith career Moz made out like he couldn't live without being a singer, and making records, and fussing over artwork etc. Now he seems content to just buy Mexican antiques. Which is fine of course. But what amazes me is that he never makes anything clear - does he want a record deal, or does he wish to retire?

I would be happy to hear just one album, so I could make the informed choice between duffer or over the hill and past it!

Don't want to see five, contractually obliged, lame albums. Moz's image and memory is ruined enough thankyou!!!

I will only believe rumors if they are reported by Matt Drudge.

...morrissey should sign with MUTE records. warm leatherette!

Moz is getting old. Face it, he is all washed up, his eyebrows are getting bushier and his chin is getting pointier. Soon he will have hair growing out of his ears. I think it best for him to just sit by a warm fire with a good book and some hot tea. He doesn’t need to be out and about, plus if he gets a record deal he will have to tour. I don’t think his poor little body could handle it.

I do sincerely hope this is true. Of course it means it will all be kept in the Warner family. Meaining his back catalog Smiths and Solo since Rhino is owned by Warner and it certainly would be a very lucrative union. Again, I do hope this is not just a rumor.
It is about time for the torture of new material not coming out to stop. Let's hope Morrissey gets his act together and give his fans new songs at last. Keep your fingers crossed!

I do. Hope it's true. Real fans do.
The "old age" argument is as STUPID as the people who use it - SPINELESS BASTARDS ALL!!! Is 42 that OLD?!
Anyway, HIS voice and singing just keeps getting better and better; HIS intellect and charm unchanged...

SO-CALLED-FANS, YOU MAKE ME FEEL SO OLD INSIDE - PLEASE DIE!!!

At one point in time I was sent a record contract from BEC recordings. From I remember the whole 5 album record deal was (for us) a 2 album requirement they had to put out and and the option of 3 more. It was called 2+3 or something accordingly. There was, however, a clause in the contract that basically said if we dismantled as a band, we were not required by law to produce other albums, and we couldn't move to another label with the same members under a different name. Basically, if Morrissey, sensing he is finishing up his career soon...could in effect sign this contract and quit at any time with no further obligation to put out records..and if he sold poorly, could be let go of at will by the record label. Just adding in my 2 cents. Hope he signs to Matador or Mammoth.

5 albums of new material? i can't see it, given the obvious drop in productivity.

5 more compilations? this would just be absurd. moz would hold a guinness record for most re-released artist.

Here's a translation of the article, a sad idea, the Rhino thing is ironic:

- What becomes Johnny Marr?

Johnny guitar is always the leader of Healers, a arlésienne group which was to play festival of Inrocks. Two years ago. He always seeks a house of discs and records little: one recently crossed it on a album-homage to the songwriter Bernt Jansch. The group shares the same manager as Oasis. And unfortunately, therefore, a certain propensity with the grandiloquence.
Morrissey, it, have just signed a deal of five albums with the Californian label Rhino, luxurious old people's home specialized in the republications and the ends of career.
News of October 3: the group of Johnny Marr has just published his first single The last night on the independent label Pacific!