Moby as producer rumor, new record deal rumor in Spin Magazine (updated)
posted by davidt on Sunday November 26 2000, @12:00PM

Nobody's Nothing writes:

There is a small article in this week's SPIN magazine about Morrissey being close to a record deal. It says something about negotiations are close and that he already has a producer in mind: MOBY! The article only cites unnamed sources but it is some news, and some news is better than no news!

UPDATE (Nov. 27): The full article, also from Nobody's Nothing:

First of all the magazine is SPIN (the weekly one) with Eminem on the front cover! I think it is Jan 2001 or something like that.
GETTING HIS ARSENAL IN GEAR

Morrissey's first new studio album in nearly four years may finally have a home. "I'm itching to record if anybody on the planet will let me," the world's most famous unsigned artist says. "There is an intelligent audience out there waiting for something interesting to happen." (We'll have to trust him on that one.) Althought there are rumors that Ark 21 is interested, we hear it may be lowballing him (unaware, perhaps, that the Moz was greeted with Smiths-like mania on his 1999 world tour.) The star will only say, "I'm searching. And I'm open and free and available-well, not free." Word is he even has a producer in mind: MOBY. Although sources hint the celebrity meat-shunners are close to a deal, Moby insists, "I prefer to work on my own music. I'm not really a producer." At least the Mozzer has something new to be miserable about.

 
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    and we want the day to come sooner (Score:0, Offtopic)
    i'm very proud of him.

    i was getting a bit worried there for a second.
    suzanne -- Sunday November 26 2000, @12:40PM (#5045)
    (User #36 Info | http://www.myspace.com/snootywriter )
    I scare dead people.
    What? Moby? (Score:1)
    Well with Moby as producer I guess it means that the band's days are numbered...... I think that's sad, I'll miss them - but it might be good for Moz as there has to be some way in which he can re-invent himself and find a train that he can ride for another few years. We'll see what happens, I've heard too many rumours recently to get too emotional over this one.....
    Mozzarella -- Sunday November 26 2000, @12:48PM (#5046)
    (User #864 Info | http://www.bozboorer.com/ )
    If I wasn't a cat, I'd be a girl.
    • Mozzy & Moby by carlos (Score:1) Sunday November 26 2000, @02:09PM
      something to look forward to.. (Score:1)
      when everything just seems to fall out of place...i just hope to god that this is true .. a new album to listen to.. a new tour to follow .. new discussions about the new album.. and a whole new morrissery emerging out of the darkness...soon.. there will be something to look forward to that seems worthwhile..
      nhon -- Sunday November 26 2000, @12:59PM (#5047)
      (User #1763 Info)
        Techno-Mozzer? Good! (Score:2, Interesting)
        It is good that the Mozzer takes Moby as a producer... He really needs some new experomentation! I do like Moby, though not as much as other electronic artists (Tricky, Massive Attack...) BTW... Moz, Tricky lives in NY, you like his music, and NY is not that far from you! Come on, give him a phone!

            The Band does not necessarily have to go. Ask Radiohead, who made the techno (and Great!) "Kid A" with all of its members!

              In a perfect world, Johny Marr will be called again (it is good to dream a bit [lol])
        djpekky -- Sunday November 26 2000, @02:46PM (#5053)
        (User #1453 Info)
          Moby... could work! (Score:1)
          Moby's second album was called "Animal Rights." Do you remember what Morrissey's second album was called?

          Moby attaches little essays to each of his albums, and they're pretty rad (as in cool and politically radical).

          Morrissey seems to have made a good choice.
          Passing Kijowski <jeanegrave@hotmail.com> -- Sunday November 26 2000, @02:48PM (#5054)
          (User #1810 Info)
          So how can you call this a home, when you know it's a grave? But can you SING, Verrechia?
          Moz has finally lost it if this is true... (Score:0, Flamebait)
          ...but wait, he's been lost for the past 9 years.
          Moby is a pretentious, boring, overrated c*nt. His music is empty and boring, even his physical appearence makes me want to jab corncobs in my eyes. People like him made the 90s a disappointing decade musically, he was one of the first to take away all the fun from disco/dance music. I equate him with Bono, who ruined most of rock. "Serious" artists like this make me sick. It'd be interesting to see how much life he can drain out of Morrissey, considering Moz hasn't had any soul since a few B sides in '90.
          Anonymous -- Sunday November 26 2000, @02:58PM (#5055)
          dick (Score:1)
          Moby Dick was writen by Moby's grandfather ......... maybe another epic by the family could be produced using Moz as the sword .... PEN IS MIGHTIER
          clive -- Sunday November 26 2000, @03:00PM (#5056)
          (User #110 Info)
          • Re:dick by Passing Kijowski (Score:1) Sunday November 26 2000, @03:51PM
            • Re:dick by Lifeguard Sleeping (Score:1) Sunday November 26 2000, @05:02PM
              • Re:dick by Anonymous (Score:0) Tuesday November 28 2000, @03:32PM
              • Re:dick by DeezNutz (Score:1) Sunday November 26 2000, @10:21PM
                didn't moz once say something about rave muzik... (Score:1)
                something to the effect of:

                "Rave is the refuge of the mentally deficient. It's made by dull people for dull people"?

                Glad to see the ol' git coming around to his senses.
                thirsty fists <thirsty_fists@yahoo.com> -- Sunday November 26 2000, @04:44PM (#5062)
                (User #149 Info)
                "world's ugliest boy"
                Yeah Right! (Score:0)
                I hate to tell you, but regardless of what Spin says, this has to be a bullshit story. I cannot believe you guys are actually believing this. Just think about it for a second and how half-assed it is. I am very much looking forward to a new Moz disc and I am also a Moby fan but come on! If it does happen, god only knows what it will sound like.
                Anonymous -- Sunday November 26 2000, @06:55PM (#5067)
                  I don't mean to rain on everyone's parade (Score:1)
                  but, first off, Spin is monthly not weekly, and I see no mention of Moby or Morrissey in the Dec issue (nor at www.spin.com) So, what issue are you saying this rumour is in?
                  torr <torrissey80@yahoo.com> -- Sunday November 26 2000, @07:11PM (#5069)
                  (User #227 Info | http://torr.typepad.com/ )
                  won't happen (Score:1, Insightful)
                  ridiculous
                  Anonymous -- Sunday November 26 2000, @07:23PM (#5071)
                    There is more than one side to a coin... (Score:1)
                    Just because Moby is known as a techno/electronic artist doesn't mean that his interest in music is limited to that genre. It could very well be that he is looking to expand his horizons. Morrissey would be great to work with, considering how much he involves art into his work. I think that it is very possible that the Lads will continue on with him. Sometimes the producer just puts some wood on the creative fire, new line-ups aren't always in order.
                    I'm not sure if the information has substance or is just another rumor. It is good, though to hear that there has been mention of a record-deal in print somewhere out side of M-Solo. I look forward to a new recording as much as anyone, so it would be nice if this one (or any for that matter) would pan out.
                    ms_smith86 <ms_smith86@hotmail.com> -- Sunday November 26 2000, @07:23PM (#5072)
                    (User #635 Info)
                    tick tick tick.... (Score:2, Funny)
                    hell at this point morrissey could have a 3 legged moose as a producer and i wouldn't give to f*cks about it... JUST DO SOMETHING DAMNIT!!!

                    nothing good can come from idle hands!!!
                    Maplefreak -- Sunday November 26 2000, @07:45PM (#5076)
                    (User #1234 Info)
                    And the songs we sing, they're not supposed to mean a thing...
                      There is more to Moby than meets the eye... (Score:0)
                      Has anyone in here ever heard Moby's cover of
                      Joy Division's "New Dawn Fades"? I don't think Moby would try to convince Moz to throw a techno spin to his songs. Not in the least. I do think it would be a healthy collaboration for both parties.
                      Anonymous -- Sunday November 26 2000, @07:49PM (#5077)
                      journalists, yet again, lying...(i hope)! (Score:1)
                      but if it is true, then may the vomitus begin.

                      i'm sorry, but a moby-produced morrissey album is equivalent to post-joshua-tree U2 albums. doubtful at best. then again, that's all post-facto isn't it - 'after the fact'?

                      i really can't see moby being able to produce 'rocker' music, and on the other side of the coin, i can't see morrissey performing pseudo-techno. some people may note that moby did do that cover of joy division's "new dawn fades" - but may those same people remember - that cover sucked!

                      why not steve lillywhite? he seems to make good stuff with morrissey, right? i'm also sure that there are plenty of other vegans/vegetarians that are more suited for the job.
                      state of emergency -- Sunday November 26 2000, @10:14PM (#5086)
                      (User #837 Info)
                      "others conquered love, but i ran..."
                      vanilla moz fans (Score:0)
                      it's hysterical to watch you people get all scared about a "techno" artist(god forbid!) producing the moz record..it just goes to show you that the NME is right when it calls the moz fans boring,traditionalist,whining,vanilla,bed-sit,uncultured sheep!

                      Moby is an amazingly gifted musician. I t can only help moz to collaborate with him...it disgusts me to hear you people calling for lillywhite to step in...my god the guy does the dullest production EVER on "maladjusted", and you want him back?? lol...
                      Anonymous -- Sunday November 26 2000, @11:39PM (#5091)
                      death of a techno dancer (Score:1)
                      i really doubt that this will ever happen. but if it did, would moz start playing instruments on stage that aren't even plugged in? or would he walk around on stage rubbing his hands together the whole time? (if this doesn't make any sense to you, just watch any moby performance-they're terrible. trust me i've been "fortunate" enough to see them up close several times.)
                      bernard42 -- Monday November 27 2000, @12:15AM (#5093)
                      (User #566 Info)
                        Re:death of a techno dancer (Score:2)
                        i've seen moby and i don't seem to remember him walking around doing nothing....he was either singing or playing instruments. and pray, why did you see moby more than once if he was that terrible? i can't imagine moby changing morrissey's entire sound even if he was producer....
                        lily -- Monday November 27 2000, @01:57AM (#5101)
                        (User #771 Info)
                        [ Parent ]
                        any producer will do (Score:1)
                        as long as some new stuff is put out!
                        i too, am a fan of mozz and moby ( listenable ) i guess but i dont believe it would be too bad a colaboration.
                        moby can produce classical or dance, hes a talented bloke and as for the rumour that the band will go moby plays live with a massive band so that theory is neither here nor there.
                        all said and done its a strange pairing, id imagine morrissey getting really pissed off with the opinionated moby trying to run his show!
                        at the end of the day just because moby is a dance artist it doesnt mean a new mozz lp mixed / produced by him will make mozz the new leftfield with guitars.....
                        well i know what i mean anyway...........hah
                        another point why cant anyone find the article in the spin mag....!!!! weird
                        p.s. good site dave t.....credit where credits due........
                        unusual choice of poll topics though.
                        inlovewiththepast -- Monday November 27 2000, @01:13AM (#5095)
                        (User #1028 Info)
                        truth rest your head there is more than a life at stake here..she may well sell sanctuary but she'll also sell your soul
                          moby? why not Neil Tennant.. (Score:0)
                          I don't think at this stage in his career Morrissey would do anything RADICALLY different. But it seems to me "if" he was going to, why not try Neil Tennant (I heard PSB does occasionally produce) who seems to have a similar mind set as Morrissey when it comes to Oscar Wilde, witty lyrics etc. Even though musically the Pet Shop Boys are nothing like Morrissey but look at Moby. Plus it seems Tennant is quite the fan of Morrissey while Moby isn't.
                          Anonymous -- Monday November 27 2000, @01:37AM (#5098)
                          I wouldn't hold my breath! (Score:0)
                          Morrissey, my favorite musician of all time is much like the late tragic Carravagio, my favorite painter of all time. Both are genious' who are and were greatly unappreciated and misunderstood by the masses of their time; both have captured human tragedy in an art form that is beyond comparison to any other; Last, both are and were rebels incapable of working with other people who had the means to help create more spectacular art for us to enjoy. In summary, when Morrissey does come forward with new work, we will be fortunate if he gets along with co-workers long enough to actually finish a cd before departing into oblivion once again. Still, we must patiently wait........................................Yours Truly, Hated for loving
                          Anonymous -- Monday November 27 2000, @01:55AM (#5100)
                          Aaahoha (Score:1)
                          Moby is quite a cool bloke, although I didn't really like his "Play" album, the stuff that he did on "Everything Is Wrong" is really f*ck'n good.

                          Moby has made quite of a punk album in the past and he once cover a Joy Division song and did a great Clash cover with Heather Nova.
                          I think Moby is rather different as a producer than as an artist.

                          But Morrissey MUST keep the band!
                          You don't HAVE to use samplers/electronics etc...
                          to come up with something different.

                          micturion -- Monday November 27 2000, @03:02AM (#5106)
                          (User #1468 Info)
                            Moby as Producer (Score:0)
                            Let's not be as flippant as to write Moby off as someone who just tinkle's on his Hammond X98T19 (or whatever) every now and then.

                            I think he would update Morrissey's sound rather than dramatically change it. Moby orginally writes all of his songs on the humble guitar before further developing them, so he would'nt necessarilly add bucket loads of synths etc.
                            Anonymous -- Monday November 27 2000, @07:16AM (#5113)
                            Scraping the barrel (Score:0)
                            My arse. These stories are getting more and more desperate
                            Anonymous -- Monday November 27 2000, @09:09AM (#5118)
                              Moby...No Way! (Score:0, Troll)
                              Moby recently said that he has NO plans on working with any artist because he wants to work on his new album. I doubt that Moby would EVER work with Morrissey. If Moby did not have time to work with Madonna (didn't she sign Moz to Maverick?), I doubt he would take the time to work with our washed-up Morrissey.

                              Maybe Morrissey could get Erasure or Culture Club to produce him...

                              And a new record deal...I will believe it when I see an album out.

                              Oh well, Morrissey Suck.

                              Btw...Moby will be in Dublin on December 29th!! (and he will be playing new material...now if Moz would only...)
                              Morrissey Sucks -- Monday November 27 2000, @10:10AM (#5120)
                              (User #310 Info)
                              Morrissey Sucks (and all is well)!
                              • Re:Moby...No Way! by suzanne (Score:1) Monday November 27 2000, @04:38PM
                                • Maverick? by Anonymous (Score:0) Thursday November 30 2000, @07:24PM
                                  Unlikely, but could be good (Score:1)
                                  I like Moby. He's a very talented artist, and as Play showed, in comparison to his earlier work, he is versatile enough for his involvement not to mean that we'd see a new "Techno Moz".
                                  I'd also like to agree with all the people who've pointed out that his dance background doesn't necessarily mean that the band will the ditched. Moby himself is a pretty decent musician, and played instruments on about half (or maybe more) of the tracks on the excellent Play.
                                  Having said all this, I can't imagine there's much substance to the rumour...
                                  Boy With The Thorn -- Monday November 27 2000, @10:20AM (#5123)
                                  (User #1359 Info | http://www.kraftwerk.com/ )
                                  Reliably devious and truculent.
                                  Full article! (Score:2, Informative)
                                  First of all the magine is SPIN (the weekly one) with Eninem on the front cover! I think it is Jan 2001 or something like that.

                                  GETTING HIS ARSENAL IN GEAR

                                  Morrissey's first new studio album in nearly four years may finally have a home. "I'm itching to record if anybody on the planet will let me," the world's most famous unsigned artist says."There is an intelligent audience out there waiting for something interesting to happen." (We'll have to trust him on that one.) Althought there are rumors that Ark 21 is interested, we hear it may be lowballing him(unaware, perhaps, that the Moz was greeted with Smiths-like mania on his 1999 world tour.) The star will only say, "I'm searching. And I'm open and free and avaible-well, not free." Word is he even has a producer in mind: MOBY. Although sources hint the celebrity meat-shunners are close to a deal,Moby insists, "I prefer to work on my own music. I'm not really a producer." At least the Mozzer has something new to be miserable about.

                                  nobody's nothing -- Monday November 27 2000, @10:58AM (#5129)
                                  (User #264 Info)
                                  Morrissey and the Detroit Lions! A match made in heaven!
                                  blasphemous rumours? (Score:1)
                                  i like moby and i know moz is kind of fond of him but i think i remember reading that moby finds moz a little...strange..? besides, spin is a horrible publication and there is no more reason to get excited over this than any of the other rumours that have been floating around as of late. i do admit though, i would be very interested to see where moby would take moz's music. is it possible moz would recant on his ranting against electronic music that he did when with the smiths?
                                  neal -- Monday November 27 2000, @11:19AM (#5131)
                                  (User #799 Info | http://www.myspace.com/newlands )
                                    Hold onto your friends, Moz !!! (Score:1)
                                    I don't mind who in the world produces some new Moz-material if he/she does it in a worthy way ...
                                    And Moby is in fact a talented man and would be able to -
                                      The main thing is that Morrissey really seems to have new stuff ready/in mind & plans on producing it soon... we NEED a new album soon and no more reissues/repackages - PLEASE remember to hold onto your friends, Moz !! Everybody's just about losing patience ...
                                    MozAddict -- Monday November 27 2000, @11:31AM (#5132)
                                    (User #1091 Info)
                                      There is no SPIN Magazine that comes out weekly (Score:1)
                                      Spin is a monthly magazine (thus the "Jan 2001"). If it was weekly it would list the day as well as the date.

                                      So, for those of you looking for this issue of SPIN--it isn't out yet. This person must have gotten their issue a bit early (somehow).

                                      SPIN has been covering morrissey, even when there's nothing to really cover, for the last four years. Honestly, there hasn't been an issue since his last album that hasn't listed some reference to him.

                                      Hope this helps,
                                      A-M
                                      Andy-Mats -- Monday November 27 2000, @02:08PM (#5146)
                                      (User #151 Info)
                                        a grin from ear to ear! (Score:1)
                                        what news! i hope its true... god knows we all love moz, and moby is fantastic, too..-crossing my fingers-crossing my fingers-crossing my fingers-crossing my fingers-
                                        thinlizzie -- Monday November 27 2000, @02:40PM (#5147)
                                        (User #1134 Info)
                                          his intelligent audience (Score:1)
                                          all three of us are waiting for your album. I don't know what the rest of these people are going to listen to.
                                          suzanne -- Monday November 27 2000, @04:35PM (#5151)
                                          (User #36 Info | http://www.myspace.com/snootywriter )
                                          I scare dead people.
                                          After Meat is Murder... (Score:1)
                                          I've read a lot of comments on this site (and under this topic) that criticize some of Morrissey's work. That is not acceptable.

                                          Once you heard and enjoyed your first Smiths album as a true Morrissey fan you lost any right at that point to saying anything bad about any other of his work. That's how a fan should feel.
                                          Passing Kijowski <jeanegrave@hotmail.com> -- Monday November 27 2000, @07:13PM (#5157)
                                          (User #1810 Info)
                                          So how can you call this a home, when you know it's a grave? But can you SING, Verrechia?
                                          • Re:After Meat is Murder... by STIMPY 586 (Score:1) Monday November 27 2000, @11:38PM
                                          • Re:After Meat is Murder... by Boy With The Thorn (Score:1) Tuesday November 28 2000, @04:45AM
                                              Re:After Meat is Murder... (Score:2, Interesting)
                                              You can't be a critic and devotee of Morrissey at the same time. The relationship is religious. Just like Job cannot question anything God puts his way, we cannot question anything Moz puts our way. That is how important he is.
                                              Passing Kijowski <jeanegrave@hotmail.com> -- Tuesday November 28 2000, @08:35AM (#5182)
                                              (User #1810 Info)
                                              So how can you call this a home, when you know it's a grave? But can you SING, Verrechia?
                                              [ Parent ]
                                              • Re:After Meat is Murder... by Anonymous (Score:0) Tuesday November 28 2000, @03:03PM
                                                • So very small. by Anonymous (Score:0) Tuesday November 28 2000, @03:33PM
                                                  • Re:After Meat is Murder... (Score:3, Insightful)
                                                    So you equate Morrissey with God? Interesting, if misguided.
                                                    As Romans 3:23 informs us, all humans are fallible...yet you seem to be suggesting that Morrissey is infallible? A God?
                                                    Funny, then, that Moz himself should confess that he, too, is human, and thus imperfect, as can be seen in Meat Is Murder 6:9, "I Am Human, and I need to be loved..."
                                                    I'm afraid that Morrissey is ,like the rest of us, a mere mortal, and thus by definition imperfect. Admiring, even loving, him is one thing, worshipping him is quite another - and decidedly irrational. I reserve my right to make frank comment on the quality of his work.
                                                    Boy With The Thorn -- Tuesday November 28 2000, @04:48PM (#5205)
                                                    (User #1359 Info | http://www.kraftwerk.com/ )
                                                    Reliably devious and truculent.
                                                    [ Parent ]
                                              Really? (Score:1)
                                              I do remember his {moz} dislike for rave,
                                              and one night on alternative nation Mike Edwards of
                                              Jesus Jones commented fiercely before they went to
                                              a commerical,about rave being for the "mentally deficient".
                                              I think its great and about time he releases another...I just hope it does not have suedehead on it,or "Everydays like Sunday"just alot of new songs.
                                              javelin <www.whateverulike.com> -- Tuesday November 28 2000, @07:36AM (#5179)
                                              (User #1848 Info)
                                              "I never wanted to kill,Iam not naturally evil"
                                                What is a Moby? (Score:0)
                                                What is a Moby?
                                                Anonymous -- Tuesday November 28 2000, @08:42AM (#5184)
                                                One thing right... (Score:1)
                                                I doubt this story is true. Probably another made-up rumor/story. But hey, at least one thing's right: Morrissey IS "the world's most famous artist!" [At least in my heart he is.]
                                                half-a-person -- Tuesday November 28 2000, @04:57PM (#5207)
                                                (User #69 Info)
                                                Alcohol: the cause of, and solution to, all of lifes problems
                                                  Panic (Score:0)
                                                  AHAHAHAHAHA!!!
                                                  That joke isn't funny anymore.
                                                  Anonymous -- Tuesday November 28 2000, @08:25PM (#5216)
                                                    well (Score:1)
                                                    strange thing, this rumour. The article quotes Morrissey as saying he's still searching. It quotes Moby saying he's not really a producer.
                                                    And then hints at whispers from behind curtains that the two would be making a deal. It doesn't look too good as a statement, doesn't it?

                                                    We'll wait, and hear.
                                                    An Klestar -- Tuesday November 28 2000, @08:49PM (#5217)
                                                    (User #1449 Info)
                                                      "No Doubt" that our boy (Score:1)
                                                      will be doing a duet with Gwen Stefani soon.....
                                                      tishbite -- Wednesday November 29 2000, @10:51AM (#5239)
                                                      (User #1466 Info)
                                                      the commonest thing is delightful if only one hides it.


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