Pubs and Morrissey

[Uncleskinny]

In relation to something else, can users here name some pubs with Morrissey/Smiths connections, even those the man himself was known to frequent?

I'm not well up on the subject - obviously the Grave Maurice is no more (well, not under that name anyway); there was a pub in Bow he mentioned in an interview, after that, I'm struggling. It would have to be an extant pub, still going under the same name. Further afield there's the Cat & Fiddle. Any more?

Cheers,

Peter

[Oh my god, it's Robby!]

In relation to something else, can users here name some pubs with Morrissey/Smiths connections, even those the man himself was known to frequent?

I'm not well up on the subject - obviously the Grave Maurice is no more (well, not under that name anyway); there was a pub in Bow he mentioned in an interview, after that, I'm struggling. It would have to be an extant pub, still going under the same name. Further afield there's the Cat & Fiddle. Any more?

Cheers,

Peter

there is 1 in Santa Monica too, real good fish and chips there :thumb:
but the name escapes me :confused: Morrissey was seen there more than once though & no I am not confusing it with "Cat & Fiddle" which is in Hollywood, wait, i think the name is coming to me now :guitar:
"The King's Head " perhaps, you could google it :o

[sistasheila]

In relation to something else, can users here name some pubs with Morrissey/Smiths connections, even those the man himself was known to frequent?
I'm not well up on the subject - obviously the Grave Maurice is no more (well, not under that name anyway); there was a pub in Bow he mentioned in an interview, after that, I'm struggling. It would have to be an extant pub, still going under the same name. Further afield there's the Cat & Fiddle. Any more?
Cheers,Peter
he meet up with a journalist in the vauxhall tavern at 94.....and I do remember vaguely moz dismissing rogan saying something along the line "that rogan couldnt never attract any crowd even with a dress(??)/as a women impersinator on putting on a show in vauxhall tavern"
also soem further vauxhall tavern mentions if my memory serves me well
read that in a fanzine


i do remember tht infamous interview of frank owen (either with the melody maker or nme)in the 80ties where he speaks about several..well i dont know if these were pubs or clubs or bars?- in manchester..I assume so...only remember one name. "dickens"

edit: i found interview online-and it was MM:
http://foreverill.com/interviews/1986/abroad.htm

Life for the would-be Bohemian in Manchester was always hard. Pre-punk, those seeking sanctuary from the patrolling behemoths covered in vomit, had little alternative but to take refuge in the gay clubs, like Dickens (a sleaze pit where your feet stuck to the floor when you walked in), or the gay pubs, like the Thompson's Arms, the Rembrandt, or the Union (the hippest spot of degeneracy in town - full of trannies with plastic legs).
"The gay scene in Manchester," says Morrissey, "was a little bit heavy for me. I was a delicate bloom. Do you remember the Union? Too heavy for me, as was Dickens.
The Rembrandt I could take. It was a bit kind of craggy. There was no place, at that time, in Manchester, in the very early stages, that one could be surrounded by fascinating, healthy people" (pause) "fascinating, healthy bikers for example. It was always like the cross-eyed, club-footed, one-armed, whatever!"
"The gay scene in Manchester was always atrocious. Do you remember Bernard's Bar, now Stuffed Olives?"
I do indeed. I particularly remember the endless stream of aging music hall acts that Bernard booked (Mr. Memory men, jugglers, etc) in order to create what he thought was an upmarket ambience. Perhaps that's where the inspiration for "Frankly, Mr Shankly" came from? I also remember that you were kicked out if you dared so much as snigger at the appalling turns.
"If one wanted peace and to sit without being called a parade of names then that was the only hope. Bernard's Bar was fine for a while but what I was really into was the music." That's where punk fitted in.

[Cowshed]

obviously the Grave Maurice is no more (well, not under that name anyway);

The Grave Maurice is back under that name. But now a 'trendy' bar, trance music et al.

The impression I got from Meetings with Morrissey is that a lot of his mid-90s interviews were done in pubs in London (particularly Camden) and Manchester. There's that pub (I can't remember the name) that's owned by the actress that plays Vera Duckworth near Granada studios that Morrissey has been spotted in quite a few times. (I could be making it up that she owns it...someone please correct me if I'm wrong!)

And of course, Proud in Camden where I bumped into him! :thumb:

[Oh my god, it's Robby!]

somebody should put up:
"Morrissey drank here" signs in these places :lbf:

[sistasheila]

he meet up with a journalist in the vauxhall tavern at 94.....and I do remember vaguely moz dismissing rogan saying something along the line "that rogan couldnt never attract any crowd even with a dress(??)/as a women impersinator on putting on a show in vauxhall tavern"
also soem further vauxhall tavern mentions if my memory serves me well
read that in a fanzine


i do remember tht infamous interview of frank owen (either with the melody maker or nme)in the 80ties where he speaks about several..well i dont know if these were pubs or clubs?- in manchester..I assume so...only remember one name. "dickens"
(.......................................)


some indirect moz related pubs which i had searched for when i was in london last year:
in relation to the kray twins (3 pubs): carpenters arms,lion, blind beggar

and and two pubs in the area where "sucessful video was shot:jukebox mentioned turks head
I would also add "town of ramsgate"
further explanations to the exact location and relation here:
http://forums.morrissey-solo.com/newreply.php?do=newreply&p=904364

[21punksalute]

there is 1 in Santa Monica too, real :
"Boar's Head Tavern" perhaps, you could google it :o


The Santa Monica pub you're thinking of is The King's Head

[Kewpie]

Last year Danny spotted a blog which is the sighting of Morrissey in Big Red in Holloway Road, London.

My friends met him in Spread Eagle, Camden Town in March 2004.

[jete tes devoirs au feu]

In relation to something else, can users here name some pubs with Morrissey/Smiths connections, even those the man himself was known to frequent?

I'm not well up on the subject - obviously the Grave Maurice is no more (well, not under that name anyway); there was a pub in Bow he mentioned in an interview, after that, I'm struggling. It would have to be an extant pub, still going under the same name. Further afield there's the Cat & Fiddle. Any more?

Cheers,

Peter

Why? What are you planning to do?

[Oh my god, it's Robby!]

The Santa Monica pub you're thinking of is The King's Head

fixed :thumb:

[Helen Bach]

He often frequents The Slow Learner in Didsbury when visiting Manchester.
Which is nice.

[Jukebox Jury]

At the Move Festival, 2004, at Lancashire Cricket Club's Old Trafford ground, (a stone throws away from Kings Road) Morrissey asked if anyone was going to The Quadrant for a pint afterwards.
The Quadrant is a pub on the roundabout on Kings Road.

Jukebox Jury

[Uncleskinny]

He often frequents The Slow Learner in Didsbury when visiting Manchester.
Which is nice.

I've seen you say this before, but I've never been able to find it. I must be a, errr....

Peter

[I am a Ghost]

Quite a few he used to frequent over here, including a local of a good mate of mine who went on the piss with him a few years back..

[joe frady]

Quite a few he used to frequent over here, including a local of a good mate of mine who went on the piss with him a few years back..
Details please ?
Thanking you.

[RegentRoad]

There's that pub (I can't remember the name) that's owned by the actress that plays Vera Duckworth near Granada studios that Morrissey has been spotted in quite a few times. (I could be making it up that she owns it...someone please correct me if I'm wrong!)



The Old Grapes. Just off Deansgate, near the Opera House. Last time I was in there, the walls were totally festooned with photo's of famous friends and acquaintances of Vera Duckworth. I thought the place was bobbins, to be honest.

[vivabob]

In relation to something else, can users here name some pubs with Morrissey/Smiths connections, even those the man himself was known to frequent?

I'm not well up on the subject - obviously the Grave Maurice is no more (well, not under that name anyway); there was a pub in Bow he mentioned in an interview, after that, I'm struggling. It would have to be an extant pub, still going under the same name. Further afield there's the Cat & Fiddle. Any more?

Cheers,

Peter

the pub in Bow was the little driver

http://www.fancyapint.com/pubs/pub123.html

i also remember him going to the good mixer pre 94

[Interesting Thug]

There's the Vauxhall Tavern - not sure if he ever drank there but clearly fond of the place.

[I am a Ghost]

Details please ?
Thanking you.

The Submarine Bar, Crumlin, Dublin 12.

It USED to look like a Submarine many moons ago when I used to drink in it..


http://www.dublinpubscene.com/thepubs/pubimages/thesubmarinebar.jpg

[sistasheila]

Iam a Ghost
Re: Pubs and Morrissey
Quite a few he used to frequent over here, including a local of a good mate of mine who went on the piss with him a few years back..

Originally Posted by joe frady
Details please ?Thanking you.

Iam a Ghost
The Submarine Bar, Crumlin, Dublin 12.
@I am a ghost...I think joe rather wants to know more about the drinking session with moz than about the location if I got him right...;)


Ido remember tht infamous interview of frank owen (either with the melody maker or nme)in the 80ties where he speaks about several..well i dont know if these were pubs or clubs or bars?- in manchester..I assume so...only remember one name. "dickens"

edit: i found interview online-and it was MM:
http://foreverill.com/interviews/1986/abroad.htm

Life for the would-be Bohemian in Manchester was always hard. Pre-punk, those seeking sanctuary from the patrolling behemoths covered in vomit, had little alternative but to take refuge in the gay clubs, like Dickens (a sleaze pit where your feet stuck to the floor when you walked in), or the gay pubs, like the Thompson's Arms, the Rembrandt, or the Union (the hippest spot of degeneracy in town - full of trannies with plastic legs).
"The gay scene in Manchester," says Morrissey, "was a little bit heavy for me. I was a delicate bloom. Do you remember the Union? Too heavy for me, as was Dickens.
The Rembrandt I could take.
It was a bit kind of craggy. There was no place, at that time, in Manchester, in the very early stages, that one could be surrounded by fascinating, healthy people" (pause) "fascinating, healthy bikers for example. It was always like the cross-eyed, club-footed, one-armed, whatever!"
"The gay scene in Manchester was always atrocious. Do you remember Bernard's Bar, now Stuffed Olives?"
I do indeed. I particularly remember the endless stream of aging music hall acts that Bernard booked (Mr. Memory men, jugglers, etc) in order to create what he thought was an upmarket ambience. Perhaps that's where the inspiration for "Frankly, Mr Shankly" came from? I also remember that you were kicked out if you dared so much as snigger at the appalling turns.
"If one wanted peace and to sit without being called a parade of names then that was the only hope. Bernard's Bar was fine for a while but what I was really into was the music." That's where punk fitted in.

I would be very interested reading from someone from manchester or anyone who did visit manchester in the 70ties who had attend these ^ places or having strolled along and pass them by around the time to tell a bit more about it...I wonder what he meant with it "being too heavy" ..
the clientel etc...
what was that like in manchester in the 70ties ....especially the "canal street area";-)

[Kewpie]

I would be very interest from someone from manchester or anyone who did visit manchester in the 70s who had been to these places or having strolled along and pass them by around the time to tell a bit more about it.
I wonder what he meant with it "being too heavy".
what was that like in manchester in the 70s, especially the "Canal Street area"

I'm not originally from Manchester, but lived in there late 80s.

Too heavy means "too much / unbearable".

I bet Canal Street is pick up area in central Manchester.

[I am a Ghost]

@I am a ghost...I think joe rather wants to know more about the drinking session with moz than about the location if I got him right...;)





You think? ;)

Der Mensch ist ein abyss!!

[shirley temple]

The Old Grapes. Just off Deansgate, near the Opera House. Last time I was in there, the walls were totally festooned with photo's of famous friends and acquaintances of Vera Duckworth. I thought the place was bobbins, to be honest.


I was there just before Xmas and I agree with you.

[sistasheila]

just a few pubs which got mentioned in past interviews
pubs in london
lock tavern (sylvia patterson,journalist met him there "during the britpop years"

dublin castle
a journalist who met him there for a drink in 94 and wrote about it in word mag..
bothe in camden
dont know if these pubs are still running

[Kewpie]

Dublin Castle (Parkway NW1) is still business as usual.

Not sure about Lock Tavern.

In Camden you can go to Good Mixer and Spread Eagle where are not far from Dublin Castle.

[CrystalGeezer]

I have GOT to stop reading the frink because I read the title of this thread as something else entirely, then clicked it. :o

[vivabob]

Dublin Castle (Parkway NW1) is still business as usual.

Not sure about Lock Tavern.

In Camden you can go to Good Mixer and Spread Eagle where are not far from Dublin Castle.

of of those pubs are good :thumb:

[devout]

He mentioned the Little Driver in a Q interview. Have been in there, nothing special at all and on the main road as well.

I always thought he'd have drunk in The Birdcage off Columbia Road.

Its the boozer 'The Queen Vic' in Eastenders is based on and was frequented by the Krays elder brother Charlie every weekend.

Well it was when I was in there :thumb:

[Mel_Torment]

I remember reading in some fanzine (back in the day) that Morrissey was often spotted at Camden's The Good Mixer, where Blur were also often seen. I wonder if this lead to the inspiration for Charmless Man. The viddy (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NQhLtd58Jxc)'s quite funny.

I went there a couple of times in the mid-90s. It was kinda meh.

There's a pub called The Morrissey (http://www.myspace.com/the_morrissey)in Vancouver, Canada. "The Morrissey is in your network".

Stephane also said there was a Morrissey STEAKhouse in Montreal!

Too bad about the baby seals.

[Vic Strangeways]

He used to hang out at the Good Mixer in Camden.

[Mark]

Last year Danny spotted a blog which is the sighting of Morrissey in Big Red in Holloway Road, London.

Seriously?? Have you got a link? I'd love to hear about that sighting! Thanks ...

[Kewpie]

Seriously?? Have you got a link? I'd love to hear about that sighting! Thanks ...


You find it in here (http://forums.morrissey-solo.com/showthread.php?t=87978/)

[Lost]

At the Move Festival, 2004, at Lancashire Cricket Club's Old Trafford ground, (a stone throws away from Kings Road) Morrissey asked if anyone was going to The Quadrant for a pint afterwards.
The Quadrant is a pub on the roundabout on Kings Road.

Jukebox Jury

Morrissey was at the same college in Stretford around the same time as me. (I'm a year older than him.) The Quadrant was a big student pub at the time so the chances are that he used to frequent it, hence the remark.
I had many a pint of cider in there on hot afternoons when i should have been in lectures. Maybe he was in there too. Sadly i'll never know.

[Raphael Lambach]

Woww
It's gonna change my life

[Jessikers]

Creepy.:crazy:

[Gin N Tonic Jil]

I met Morrissey AND the elusive "Jake", at Coach N Horses on the Strip in West Hollywood. 1993. They were both very charming. :sweet:

[Irish Budd]

Here's a photo I took of Morrissey upstairs in the old oak pub in Cork last year.

http://i392.photobucket.com/albums/pp4/grow74/SSA42313.jpg

[lux girl]

Kehoes pub, South Anne Street, Dublin.
Used to drink there in the 90's while living in Dublin.
Saw him there a few times.

[Jessikers]

WOW, great pic! I would've been shaking too much to be able to hold a camera.
Did you talk to him or anything?

[vaca peluda]

The Slow Learner? And quite rightly too! :-)

[Irish Budd]

WOW, great pic! I would've been shaking too much to be able to hold a camera.
Did you talk to him or anything?

Thank you,yes I spoke to him briefly and he signed a copy of the queen is dead for me.He was very polite and seemed genuinely shy.He was sitting about 5 feet away from me for 2 hours but I didn't wan't to bother him so I only spoke to him when he was getting ready to leave and took the photos as he was making his way out.
Here's another one

http://i392.photobucket.com/albums/pp4/grow74/SSA42314.jpg

[Jessikers]

Oh wow. I'd go to my grave a happy woman if that had happened to me. Lucky Duck!! :)

[gretchenraine]

I have GOT to stop reading the frink because I read the title of this thread as something else entirely, then clicked it. :o

:squiffy: :eek: :lbf:

Speaking of, that first pic Irish Budd posted is serious frink. :blushing: We need to nab that if it hasn't already been posted over there. Good job, IB! :thumb:

[jwizjam]

there is 1 in Santa Monica too, real good fish and chips there :thumb:
but the name escapes me :confused: Morrissey was seen there more than once though & no I am not confusing it with "Cat & Fiddle" which is in Hollywood, wait, i think the name is coming to me now :guitar:
"The King's Head " perhaps, you could google it :o

There is an English pub in Santa Monica called The Kings Head. It has a very quaint gift shop attached. I have been there several time. Unfortunately I did not see Morrissey there. Hum. I will be returning if he is known to brighten the place.

[Kewpie]

Bump

I'd like to see Morrissey the pub landlord.

[Jamie]

A classmate and I lived and worked in Islington back in 1998. He worked part time at the Camden Head, which was (is?) just down the alley from the Angel Tube station. One of his co-workers alleged that Morrissey was an infrequent visitor there circa 1995-1997. This is not terribly far from King's Cross (thinking of the Alone in London pics from "Maladjusted" Redux), so it's plausible. However, I don't recall ever hearing any other whispers of Morrissey frequenting Islington. And, sadly, no sighting at the Camden Head that year.

Cheers,
Jamie

[MunchyBrain]

I've always been surprised at the lack of Moz sightings around East End pubs. Bethnal Green, Whitechapel, Stepney etc. Partly because that's where (in my unbiased opinion!) the best pubs are...but mainly because of all the Kray's and skinhead history.

[Kewpie]

I've always been surprised at the lack of Moz sightings around East End pubs. Bethnal Green, Whitechapel, Stepney etc. Partly because that's where (in my unbiased opinion!) the best pubs are...but mainly because of all the Kray's and skinhead history.

Last five years Morrissey was constantly on the road, he wouldn't be seen East End pubs.

[MunchyBrain]

Last five years Morrissey was constantly on the road, he wouldn't be seen East End pubs.

Yeah, I meant in general..

[sistasheila]

bump
also adding RESAURANTS beside pubs?
while going through some fanzines of mine i came across these
restaurants based in California
1993-from the darkened underpass
member gin n tonic met him there too http://forums.morrissey-solo.com/showpost.php?p=1231059&postcount=36
http://img412.imageshack.us/img412/1356/restaurants93.jpg
1992-from the darkened underpass
http://img709.imageshack.us/img709/6977/restaurants92002.jpg
imagine him stopping by at star and garter smiths night-that would be:thumb:
MORE PICS of his appearance in the fashions nightclub here:
http://img651.imageshack.us/img651/4295/restaurants92.jpg

[Barking]

...the return of the mysterious Peter Hogg! Aka "the Edge"!

The edge. Hogg. No nevermind. I'll get my fur coat.:rolleyes:

(aka "Rent a Not So Spineless Swine." :straightface:)

Oh the fun. the fun. In the words of Sabrina, Boys boys boys! All the lazy bikes!

[leedoggpimp]

there is 1 in Santa Monica too, real good fish and chips there :thumb:
but the name escapes me :confused: Morrissey was seen there more than once though & no I am not confusing it with "Cat & Fiddle" which is in Hollywood, wait, i think the name is coming to me now :guitar:
"The King's Head " perhaps, you could google it :o

ye olde kings head

[Kewpie]

Bump

Few months ago someone posted his friends met Morrissey in Dublin Castle, Camden.

[Southport Grandma]

Apparently, he was in the Briton's Protection before the G-Mex concerts the other December. This is the same pub that refused Deborah Curtis admission if my memory serves me correctly.

[Mozza220559]

Was The Skinners Arms one too? I know he had a photo taken outside, not sure if he actually drank there though...

[Brel]

Apparently, he was in the Briton's Protection before the G-Mex concerts the other December. This is the same pub that refused Deborah Curtis admission if my memory serves me correctly.

Well I was in there and I didn't see him? 9,000 Moz fans and he decides to have a pint in the nearest pub? Someone is pulling your leg.